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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mystikal(m): 10:55pm On Dec 20, 2016
The writer of that goal article is obviously an ozil sympathizer. Its easy to pull out stats to defend any player. I can pull out stats to defend Titus bramble if need be.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:34am On Dec 21, 2016
@Kokaneprodigy

Every thing said on that article, as far as I am concerned is true. In fact I have once on this board compared the effectiveness of Ozil and Alexis. Stating him to be more effective (then) despite a poor demeanor.

But on that night at Etihad, tat particular night (at Goodison too), Ozil was poor. There are times when you need to really come to the party.

A 10sec clip of Ozil walking lethargically did not tell the entire story, Ozil was walking almost the entire game as opponents went past him.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 2:15am On Dec 21, 2016
So bcoz Ozil scored tap in versus Bayern in 2015, we should applaud him for disappearing in key matches in 2016??

I no even sabi who dull pass. The foolish Özil fan that wrote the article, or the dumb Arsenal fan that was claiming "Pple wey know ball don talk".

Anyways, i no dey surprised sha. Na goal article. Only îdiots and mumu's take anything from Goal serious.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 2:21am On Dec 21, 2016
mystikal:
Tough to see arteta rejoicing when the city second goal went in
Wau. If u thought Arteta rejoicing was tough, then i cant even begin to imagine howu must ve felt when...

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:54am On Dec 21, 2016
Lana1:
So bcoz Ozil scored tap in versus Bayern in 2015, we should applaud him for disappearing in key matches in 2016??

I no even sabi who dull pass. The foolish Özil fan that wrote the article, or the dumb Arsenal fan that was claiming "Pple wey know ball don talk".

Anyways, i no dey surprised sha. Na goal article. Only îdiots and mumu's take anything from Goal serious.

You never pass up an opportunity to show the world you are a rabid dog. It's folks like you that believe hard work is by running up and down without strategy, reason you have more sweats as your proof of hard work than the money u actually make.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:59am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

You never pass up an opportunity to show the world you are a rabid dog. It's folks like you that believe hard work is by running up and down without strategy, reason you have more sweats as your proof of hard work than the money u actually make.


SOMEOME CALL AN AMBULANCE.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:34am On Dec 21, 2016
Spy360:
@Kokaneprodigy

Every thing said on that article, as far as I am concerned is true. In fact I have once on this board compared the effectiveness of Ozil and Alexis. Stating him to be more effective (then) despite a poor demeanor.

But on that night at Etihad, tat particular night (at Goodison too), Ozil was poor. There are times when you need to really come to the party.

A 10sec clip of Ozil walking lethargically did not tell the entire story, Ozil was walking almost the entire game as opponents went past him.
Was he poor cos he didn't try to win the ball or poor cos he didn't create chances despite receiving decent passes?
I'll reiterate, Ozil plays in exact manner in games we won when he's off the ball and no one complains. why descend on him now? cos we lost?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:44am On Dec 21, 2016
Spy360 everyone can't just be chasing ball cos we are off it, one or two players have to be at some strategic positions to receive pass when the ball is won and hit on counter. Case in point the build up to his goal against Chelsea where he received a pass from Kos and he did his thing around Kante, the game against Ludo with the pass from Elneny and he did his thing around 3 players. Ozil didn't take part in ball chasing in any of those games nobody yelled cos if he was he won't be in the position to receive those passes.

Against City We were busy hoofing the ball for reasons yet unknown and Ozil has to take the fall for that?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by eph12(m): 7:33am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

You never pass up an opportunity to show the world you are a rabid dog. It's folks like you that believe hard work is by running up and down without strategy, reason you have more sweats as your proof of hard work than the money u actually make.
It's over two days bro please get over it

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by eph12(m): 7:35am On Dec 21, 2016
Meanwhile some useless gayner fans have refused to visit other threads again which is so unlike before. Why is this please?



Cc kokaneprodigy and family
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:07am On Dec 21, 2016
eph12:
Meanwhile some useless gayner fans have refused to visit other threads again which is so unlike before. Why is this please?



Cc kokaneprodigy and family
Y'all miss me over there, undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 8:21am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

You never pass up an opportunity to show the world you are a rabid dog. It's folks like you that believe hard work is by running up and down without strategy, reason you have more sweats as your proof of hard work than the money u actually make.


Chai... nah person pikin you finish like this...

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 8:41am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
Sunday’s damaging Premier League loss to Manchester City at the Etihad was an example of how social media has the ability to alter and influence people’s opinions far too easily. A 10-second clip of Ozil walking around the pitch at 2-1 down while City’s defenders kept possession between them prompted reactionary tweets labelling the German international "lazy" and were quickly used to justify why the Gunners should not reward the 28-year-old with a bumper £250,000-a-week deal.

That clip was not only misleading but also far from the truth.

Ozil has created 330 chances and made 35 assists in the Premier League since his debut in September 2013, both of which are highs in the top flight. In 26 games for club and country this season, he has scored 10 goals and notched five assists. Those who have accused Ozil of not turning up in the big games may need reminding of last season, when he was highly influential against Bayern Munich at Emirates Stadium, Manchester City at home and more recently in September when Arsenal put three goals past Chelsea.



The former Schalke and Werder Bremen star is the perfect scapegoat in a country that has traditionally rewarded outward signs of aggression and passion. If you’re not ‘putting your foot in’, shouting at a team-mate or sprinting up and down the pitch for 90 minutes then your performance will almost certainly be questioned by the masses. Indeed, the relaxed, bordering on ostentatious, body language of Ozil has drawn criticism since he touched down in north London three years ago, although he has made a conscious effort to improve that part of his on-field persona.

“My goal is to make sure my body language is right,” Ozil said in April.

“When I make a mistake, I get annoyed and you can tell from my body language. But these days I try to make sure I don't do that anymore because in football you can make mistakes and play a bad pass.
There is an acceptance of Ozil’s somewhat negative body language when he’s creating chances, making goals and influencing play that changes as soon as Arsenal lose or fail to muster up a clear attacking opportunity. Ozil was bought to create those key chances and he has certainly done that since signing for the Gunners. He was unable to influence play against City due to Arsenal sitting deep and punting long balls forward from goal kicks, something that Alexis Sanchez in particular became visibly frustrated by.

Ozil has covered more ground per 90 minutes in the league this season than Alexis, Theo Walcott, Francis Coquelin and Laurent Koscielny. It is a statistic that may surprise some, but is an embodiment of the myth about him being a ‘lazy’ player. He does work hard and it goes completely unnoticed due to a wrongly perceived arrogance and carelessness in his game. At the Etihad on Sunday, a frustrated Ozil was forced to drop deep to collect the ball and initiate movement going forward, which meant Arsenal were devoid of a true playmaker due to the German essentially playing the role Santi Cazorla has been doing for several seasons.

The problem is not that ‘Mesut Ozil goes missing in the big games’. Instead, it is Arsenal who go missing in the big games. Whether that’s down to a long-term psychological or tactical issue remains unclear, but the obvious reason for his ineffectiveness against Manchester City was due to his team-mates failure to bring him into the game. Playing such a deep formation against a Pep Guardiola side was never going to get the best out of Alexis or Ozil.

Those questions over whether he warrants a considerable pay rise will most likely continue until he provides his next moment of magic in an Arsenal shirt. His contributions to the team have seen him break records over the past year and it may be a case of those critics not realising what the Gunners have until it’s gone. For Ozil, you can guarantee his response will be a resounding one on the pitch.

Culled from GOAL.com
http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4071/premier-league/2016/12/20/30694932/leave-mesut-alone-criticism-of-perfect-scapegoat-ozil-repetitive-

Pple wey know ball don talk
for ur mind u day read good sport news
i dont know wat pple see in goal.com
ozil is a good player but lazy nd its affect d team one way or d other... deal wit it, no one say hes not good
he keeps disappearing in big games like a shadow walker
so özil is untouchable in afc.. but u can say all sorts at ox and giroud

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:46am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
Spy360 everyone can't just be chasing ball cos we are off it, one or two players have to be at some strategic positions to receive pass when the ball is won and hit on counter. Case in point the build up to his goal against Chelsea where he received a pass from Kos and he did his thing around Kante, the game against Ludo with the pass from Elneny and he did his thing around 3 players. Ozil didn't take part in ball chasing in any of those games nobody yelled cos if he was he won't be in the position to receive those passes.

Against City We were busy hoofing the ball for reasons yet unknown and Ozil has to take the fall for that?
I get you perfectly well. Personally I do not expect Ozil to suddenly turn to a ball winner.

I am not judging him in all his games ( he never chases the ball anyway), I am only looking at that particular City game (and Everton).

Point: Ozil easily gets bullied against physical teams. He should try to overcome that. It reduces his quality somehow.

With a man less chasing the ball, it is practically impossible to cope.

City had 6 men in MF, we had 5. Take away Ozil, that's 4. So even when we win the ball, we easily get crowded out. That summarises it.

That said, Wenger could have brought on a replacement at 1-1 or make Sanchez drop to MF and Ozil push upfront.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by elrony(m): 9:46am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

You never pass up an opportunity to show the world you are a rabid dog. It's folks like you that believe hard work is by running up and down without strategy, reason you have more sweats as your proof of hard work than the money u actually make.

Why you still pained brah?..

It's a new week already! cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 9:49am On Dec 21, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

You never pass up an opportunity to show the world you are a rabid dog. It's folks like you that believe hard work is by running up and down without strategy, reason you have more sweats as your proof of hard work than the money u actually make.
U are hopelessly stupîd. What has strategy or money got to do with someone who was strolling around on d pitch wen his team was losing? Especially wen u consider said player had contributed nothing for his team all game??

Logic has failed u on this one. And u're nothing more than a glorified simpleton chatting rubbish - the type that ll make ur children rejoice at ur funeral

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by elrony(m): 11:30am On Dec 21, 2016
Shots sporadically fired!!!












Take it easy guys shocked

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Rilwayne001: 11:33am On Dec 21, 2016
sod09:
for ur mind u day read good sport news
i dont know wat pple see in goal.com
ozil is a good player but lazy nd its affect d team one way or d other... deal wit it, no one say hes not good
he keeps disappearing in big games like a shadow walker

Well said jare.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:55pm On Dec 21, 2016
Lana1:
U are hopelessly stupîd. What has strategy or money got to do with someone who was strolling around on d pitch wen his team was losing? Especially wen u consider said player had contributed nothing for his team all game??

Logic has failed u on this one. And u're nothing more than a glorified simpleton chatting rubbish - [s] the type that ll make ur children rejoice at ur funeral [/s]

Oga e neva reach this level na. Easy.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 7:40pm On Dec 21, 2016
Lana1:
U are hopelessly stupîd. What has strategy or money got to do with someone who was strolling around on d pitch wen his team was losing? Especially wen u consider said player had contributed nothing for his team all game??

Logic has failed u on this one. And u're nothing more than a glorified simpleton chatting rubbish - the type that ll make ur children rejoice at ur funeral
maka y na??

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 9:36pm On Dec 21, 2016
Edoyad bring your gourd head here, Something is wrong with my phone keypad, Can you help fix it

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by An0nimus: 11:45pm On Dec 21, 2016
On this Ozil issue, I can understand that's his style of play. However, I expect his manager to either talk to him to adjust or be wise enough to sub him during crucial games. That is why there is a coach.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by bi0nics: 12:35am On Dec 22, 2016
raumdeuter:
Edoyad bring your gourd head here, Something is wrong with my phone keypad, Can you help fix it


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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SailorXY: 2:31am On Dec 22, 2016
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 9:26am On Dec 22, 2016
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by elrony(m): 2:26pm On Dec 22, 2016
snrman:
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Arshavin >>>>>> Ghostzil grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edoyad(m): 4:29pm On Dec 22, 2016
raumdeuter:
Edoyad bring your gourd head here, Something is wrong with my phone keypad, Can you help fix it


Ewu, na Bundesliga Leicesterzig I blame, but I'm sure they'll still embarrass una this season
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 8:44pm On Dec 22, 2016
Ok. This is getting out of hand grin grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Leyqute(m): 10:20am On Dec 23, 2016
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iheanyi40(m): 11:09am On Dec 23, 2016
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:10pm On Dec 23, 2016
Wel-back
Like a new signing... cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:14pm On Dec 23, 2016
For those of you throwing sticks at Ozil... (me inclusive).

Ozil and Sanchez are joint second in the PL at winning the ball back from the final third.

#UnseenStar

Stars shine bright all the time.
But you don't get to see them until its dark.

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