DANIEL 4:25

[Daniel 4:25 NKJV] - They shall drive you from men, your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make you eat grass like oxen. They shall wet you with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.

[Daniel 4:25 GWN] - "You will be forced away from people and live with the wild animals. You will eat grass like cattle. The dew from the sky will make you wet. And seven time periods will pass until you realize that the Most High has power over human kingdoms and that he gives them to whomever he wishes."


The Goal in that deliberation on Ahab in the general meeting in heaven was this: "Who will persuade Ahab to go up to Ramoth-Gilead and fall?" From the view of the goal, the methods or ways of achieving the goal was heard and the spirit with the best suggestion or the most likely to succeed bidder was awarded the job of achieving that goal, which was to persuade or convince Ahab the king to march into war against Ramoth-Gilead.

The Goal in that deliberation on Job in the general meeting was this: 'To persuade Satan that there is a man (Job) Satan had never been able to make to fall out from the fear of God into any kind of Satan's temptation or sin" (Satan succeded in making Adam and Eve to sin against God and made many to also sin, but Job was out of Satan's abilities). From the view of the goal, Satan blamed the hedge, the health and the prosperity of God given to Job as the reason for Satan's failures at making Job to sin or blaspheme God. Satan's requests for achieving the goal was heard and those things that made Job secure/protected, rich/wealthy, and healthy, were transferred into Satan's hand/possession: - Change of ownership transpired over the things Job had, for they were now given to Satan. If Satan liked he could allow Job to continue having them or if not he could take them away from Satan, if those were the resources he needed to try and either prove God wrong about Job or Satan would get persuaded that a man or son of man could overcome him in weakness, in sickness, in sorrow and in poverty, just as much as in strength, in health, in comfort and in prosperity/riches.

In the top Bible verse above, the goal was this: "Persuade Nebuchadnezzar at the peak or summit of his heaven-reaching greatness and worldwide boundless dominion that there's an Invisible Ruler, the Most High, who rules in the kingdoms of men even when those kingdoms of men literally have visible kings." This was not able convincing an Atheist that an Invisible God true exists, but convincing a king of kings that an Invisible Ruler rules even in his dominion and kingdoms of men, and that this Invisible Ruler is the Most High, higher than the highest. Others are just higher authority, but He is the Highest Authority or Most High or the Supreme overall.

There was a time Israel asked Samuel for a king over Israel, as in, a man to rule over them. Samuel was displeased because their setting up a physical man as king meant rejecting the Invisible and Most High God as King, preferring the kingdoms of men instead of the Kingdom of God as other kingdoms or nations (1 Samuel . So the presence of a physical king in the kingdoms of men was supposed to mean the absence of the reign of God there, but that was not the case atall: Rather the presence of physical kings, rulers or governments, enhanced more of the Invisible influence, rulership and control of the Most High in those Kingdoms of Men or kingdoms where men were the visible kings/rulers.

Here, the goal was to persuade and establish to even the worlds outside Israel, that the Most High do not need the absence of a man king to rule in the kingdom of men; but instead He now gives those kingdoms to the men He chooses, particularly the humble and basest of them. (This Humility or Lowliness in the men God gives the Kingdom of Men was an important detail Daniel omitted in his interpretation in the top bible verse above, which is why when Daniel advised the king on this matter, Daniel only mentioned repentance to righteousness and mercy but omitted humility. So later this terrible thing still happened to Nebuchadnezzar, not because of lacking righteousness in sin nor lacking mercy towards the poor, but because of lacking humility in pride. Daniel was yet to fully grasp grace and treasures of humility as at then).

Since the goal was to persuade such great king that the Most High rules in the Kingdoms of men, how that plays out for two rulers or two captain to be in the same ship, is not just by one being invisible (Even though Invisibility does not mean Absence of the Most High); rather it is basically by the visible one remaining in the humility to the Invisible and the Invisible being the Most High and the Kingmaker to the visible man who is king over the kingdom. This is more message of Humility and the fact that God exalts the humble and pulls down the proud, than it is a message of righteousness or mercy of sitting king. Yes, a king's throne is established by righteousness and mercy according to "Proverbs 16:12, 25:5, Isaiah 16:5;" but the goal of the visions was not about establishing the throne of Nebuchadnezzar but about establishing the Most High's Rules and Authority in Kingmaking in the kingdoms of men. So it's basically "Humility" for it's not the king man proving himself to God, but rather God proving Himself to men that He rules and ordains higher powers/government as well as pulls down/removes them.

Imagine two Arms of Government or Kingdom: One Arm is the Executive, the head, the Commander in Chief and the Sole Administrator. But the other Arm is usually behind the scenes, and the most potent power this arm has is the ability to either impeach/remove the other arm or make/ordain anyone of his choice to replace the Executive Arm anytime. The first Arm is the Decree-Maker or Executive Order or Commander in Chief, but the second Arm is the King-Maker. Which of these two Arms has more power than the other? Supposing you have Apps, AIs, Bots, and Machines, that can execute things far more efficiently than you, and command more than you do or know to do, and are stronger than you, but you have the power to install and uninstall them, to program and deprogram them anytime.

It's simple, the Watchers wanted to prove the point to the greatest earthly king then that He (the Most High) rules in the kingdoms of men: and that point is to be proven by removing that sitting king whom no earth man could have removed from being king except those higher than him; and after proving the Most High can remove him from the kingdom, seven years later they would prove to him the second part/aspect that the Most High can give or make even the most base or downtrodden to become king of the kingdoms of men, when they again return him back into his kingdom without him seeing how possible for him to get that back.

The Centurion, in proving he was a man under authority but also a man with authority, could command those under him to do this or go to anywhere, and they would do as he said. The Lord Jesus, in proving He had power on earth to forgive sins, gave an order to a paralyzed man (whose paralysis was judgment or retribution for his sins) to rise up against the paralysis and walk free from the paralysis, and it was so.

When God was challenging Job to prove to God that Job has powers or abilities as a god, God taunted Job to do some things if he could, and if he does them even God Himself would praise or confess to Job. One of the things God wanted Job to prove himself with is for Job to look at all the proud men on earth and humble them low. That ability to humble/abase the proud and to exalt the base/humble is an attribute of divinity. There are Beasts, Dragons or Proud Elements (including the former Lucifer and the Antichrist) that if you can abase them, then you have proven your divinity in and beyond kingdom authority. As it is written,

[Job 40:9‭-‬14 NKJV] — Have you an arm like God? Or can you thunder with a voice like His? Then adorn yourself with majesty and splendor, And array yourself with glory and beauty. Disperse the rage of your wrath; Look on everyone who is proud, and humble him. Look on everyone who is proud, and bring him low; Tread down the wicked in their place. Hide them in the dust together, Bind their faces in hidden darkness. Then I will also confess to you That your own right hand can save you.

Let's conclude the top Bible verse above with these five enumerations:

*1* The Goal of getting that great King of Babylon empire to know and confess that "The Most High rules in the Kingdoms of men and appoints their Kings as He pleases (and that their pride cannot prevent Him from removing them, neither can humbleness or baseness prevent Him from making them kings).

*2* To get Nebuchadnezzar the great king at that point to know and acknowledge that, as in the goal, required removing king Nebuchadnezzar from being king (and later returning him to being king), which was humanly impossible to do in all nations of the world then. No coup d'etat or conspiracy or group of people/kings could have removed Nebuchadnezzar from being king.

*3* Even if God removed Nebuchadnezzar from being king, wherever he goes or wherever he is among men, people would still take him as king because his dominion already reached the ends of the earth. So it was not possible for Nebuchadnezzar to not be king and walk as ordinary man on earth again, unless death separates him from the living and from the kingdom. He was that head of gold in the vision, not just his kingdom, and he was that tree. The kingdom and the man (Nebuchadnezzar) were one or the same at that time.

*4* So the only way to remove or separate him from the kingdom without his death among the living, was by removing or separating him from humanity, from being a man. Because even if he was a madman, he would still be king or kingdom of a mad king. But the wisdom of God separated him from being a man into being an beast or animal that eats grass and totally off from normal society being able to have any use for him. The Most High and His Watchers worked that purpose.

*5* To keep him away from the kingdom and therefore from his pride, was to keep him away from being a man: for once he becomes a man again, the kingdom would automatically go back to reuniting with Nebuchadnezzar. But He who was able to separate Nebuchadnezzar from the kingdom for seven years to where he could never return from by human strength and was able return him back after seven years from where no human abilities or technology could have returned him from, He who accomplished these on him is surely the Most Ruler in the kingdoms of men, and the King-maker as well as the man-maker thereof. They said, "To be a man is not a day's job;" but they shall say, "To be a man is God's job." For He who made the beast become man in a day is He who made the man become king of the kingdoms in a day.

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