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Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 1:03pm On Sep 25, 2007
ziddy:

Spot-on. Nobody is denying that the holocaust was one of the most horrible human tragedies in living memory. But don't use it as an excuse to commit more evil and injustice

This typical piece of twaddle would have been relevant if Ahmadinejad had merely asserted that while he does believe that the holocaust did happen,he is opposed to the immoral manipulation of the holocaust to support base causes.Unfortunately that isn't the point he has made.

Buruntashi:

Some Jews even agree with Ahmadinejad, I saw the news this morning with Rabbis shaking Ahmadinejad's hands. I believe many Jews are appalled by the policies of their govt. The incessant raids into Palestine is despicable, we shouldn't support a fascist right wing govt like you normally have in Israel.


You seem to be a remarkably clueless individual.You obviously don't know the meaning of the term,fascist.Perhaps,you think it a fashionable term.I think its a term easily brandished by people reeking of unbridled ignorance.
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 1:16pm On Sep 25, 2007
Buruntashi:

Do you have to agree with every policy of the American govt? Even native Americans don't agree with every policy of their govt, does this mean they are hypocrites too? Where would we all be if when we disagree with our govt we have to emigrate. My status in the UK does not restrict me from disagreeing with govt policies, I don't know of you.

That is an imbecillic question.My guess is that she is a migrant.Now look carefully again at her comment
what do you expect from a country so derailed that their president thinks Africa is a country and thinks Mandela is dead - killed by Saddam - how sickening and sick will the citizens be if the leader is that sick in his head?


Agreeing to every single policy doesn't arise here.If you think a country is so derailed and you wonder about how sickening and sick(weird repetition) its citizens are. . . . then you as a person of migrant heritage should have to reconsider your stay in this land of possibly "sickening and sick" citizenry.Why stay in such a derailed country when you are a Nigerian and can go back to your homeland?
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Seun(m): 1:18pm On Sep 25, 2007
In a democracy, you can get a bad president if only 51% of voters are 'bad' voters. wink
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 1:22pm On Sep 25, 2007
ziddy:

Dont bother trying to educate him cause he just can't get it. I-man= Idiot-man. He's a big fool.

For someone who managed to embark on an argument while lacking the basic facts-Ahmadinejad's holocaust denials -which was thankfully pointed out to you by Davidylan.You are a man of brazen idiocy.
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by osereka(m): 1:23pm On Sep 25, 2007
@I-man,
MR FOLOW FOLOW,
MAKE YOU OPEN EYES, OPEN SCENCE, OPEN MIND.

[s]smoking Igbo is dangerous to your health.[/s]

@seun
 that is if the person they voted wins and the kingmakers accept abi?
DID BUSHMAN WIN THAT ELECTION
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Buruntashi: 1:24pm On Sep 25, 2007
I-man you're incredibly stupid or dumb . Why do you have thousands of western women in Saudi Arabia. You can stay in a country even if you hate the people, govt etc. There's more than one reason why she is, where she is. Are you privy to why she chose to remain where she is?
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 1:25pm On Sep 25, 2007
Seun:

In a democracy, you can get a bad president if only 51% of voters are 'bad' voters. wink

Whether that justifies raising questions over the mental health of an entire citizenry. . . . . that's entirely different
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Seun(m): 1:27pm On Sep 25, 2007
Perhaps he didn't really mean the entire country since that would include the poster himself?
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 1:38pm On Sep 25, 2007
Buruntashi:

I-man you're incredibly stupid or dumb . Why do you have thousands of western women in Saudi Arabia. You can stay in a country even if you hate the people, govt etc. There's more than one reason why she is, where she is. Are you privy to why she chose to remain where she is?

Neccesity may demand that you remain with a people who are probably sickening or sick,whose country is[i] so derailed[/i].However,while you stay there,you are open to charges of hypocrisy.What is it that so compelling that would make one want to remain with a probably sickening people.

There are probably some Whites living in Nigeria,who wonder whether Nigerians are sickening.While they have such unflattering thoughts of Nigeria and its people,one is entitled to ask them why they chose to remain with a people and a nation they abhor

Seun:

Perhaps he didn't really mean the entire country since that would include the poster himself?

That makes it even more ridiculous to make such comments.If the poster is a citizen,she denigrates herself.If she is a migrant,she has to reconsider her stay with these sickening people
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by SisiEko1(f): 3:39pm On Sep 25, 2007
Hi Seun, pls i'ld like to know how to edit my poll, i ommited something, and i need to edit it 4 the poll to make sense, pls lemme knnow, thanks
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by RichyBlacK(m): 4:45am On Sep 26, 2007
I-man:

Neccesity may demand that you remain with a people who are probably sickening or sick,whose country is[i] so derailed[/i].However,while you stay there,you are open to charges of hypocrisy.What is it that so compelling that would make one want to remain with a probably sickening people.


@I-man
Let us assume that here are some people who think most other humans are bad, that all the world governments are corrupt and hopeless, and that the world system is doomed to failure (this assumption is not far fetched). Are these people hypocrites for residing on planet Earth, instead of some other better planet? Granted there options outside this planet is limited, should they take themselves out via suicide?

Please. The fact that you criticize the government of X, and reside in X, does not make you a hypocrite. There is more to living than government policies.
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 10:20pm On Sep 28, 2007
RichyBlacK:

@I-man
Let us assume that here are some people who think most other humans are bad, that all the world governments are corrupt and hopeless, and that the world system is doomed to failure (this assumption is not far fetched). Are these people hypocrites for residing on planet Earth, instead of some other better planet? Granted there options outside this planet is limited, should they take themselves out via suicide?

In your preposterous analogy,the person in question has no other option.

RichyBlacK:

Please. The fact that you criticize the government of X, and reside in X, does not make you a hypocrite. There is more to living than government policies.


It wasn't a mere criticism of Government policies but a demonisation of an entire citizenry
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Afam(m): 7:06am On Sep 29, 2007
@I-man,

See what your hypocrisy, sycophancy and double standards have done to you.

Any hope in sight?

Try to redeem whatever is left of your integrity (if any is still left) unless you want to be in the same class as chidichris.
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 4:30pm On Sep 29, 2007
@Afam

You are just another ranting raving imbecille
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Iman3(m): 11:47am On Oct 01, 2007
Not since the prime minister of the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada presented an address claiming that UFOs posed a mortal threat to the future of mankind has the United Nations been treated to such a bizarre spectacle.

Many people believe the greatest threat to world peace concerns Iran's nuclear programme, so there was understandably great interest at this week's general assembly in New York when the country's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, took the platform.


But instead of seeking to reassure delegates that Iran's nuclear intentions were purely benign, Mr Ahmadinejad took advantage of his official visit to a country deemed – in the lexicon of the Iranian Revolution – "the Great Satan" to embark on a discourse about the wonders of the 12th Imam.

For those unacquainted with the more obscure tenets of Islamic theology, the 12th Imam is held by devout Shi'ite Muslims to be a direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammed who went into "occlusion" in the ninth century at the age of five and hasn't been seen since.

The Hidden Imam, as he is also known by his followers, will only return after a period of cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed – what Christians call the Apocalypse – and then lead the world into an era of universal peace.

Rumours abound of Mr Ahmadinejad's devotion to the 12th Imam, and last year it was reported that he had persuaded his cabinet to sign a "contract" pledging themselves to work for his return.

Another example of his messianic tendencies surfaced after 108 people were killed in an aircraft crash in Teheran. Mr Ahmadinejad praised the victims, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

For many of the hundreds of delegates who attended Mr Ahmadinejad's speech to the UN this week, his discourse on the merits of the 12th Imam finally brought home the reality of the danger his regime poses to world peace.

Rather than allaying concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions, Mr Ahmadinejad spoke at length about how a Muslim saviour would relieve the world's suffering.

The era of Western predominance was drawing to a close, he said, and would soon be replaced by a "bright future" ushered in by the 12th Imam's return. "Without any doubt, the Promised One, who is the ultimate Saviour, will come. The pleasing aroma of justice will permeate the whole world."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BZ43B440BTK1VQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/09/28/do2804.xml
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by RichyBlacK(m): 4:29pm On Oct 02, 2007
I-man:

Not since the prime minister of the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada presented an address claiming that UFOs posed a mortal threat to the future of mankind has the United Nations been treated to such a bizarre spectacle.

Many people believe the greatest threat to world peace concerns Iran's nuclear programme, so there was understandably great interest at this week's general assembly in New York when the country's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, took the platform.


But instead of seeking to reassure delegates that Iran's nuclear intentions were purely benign, Mr Ahmadinejad took advantage of his official visit to a country deemed – in the lexicon of the Iranian Revolution – "the Great Satan" to embark on a discourse about the wonders of the 12th Imam.

For those unacquainted with the more obscure tenets of Islamic theology, the 12th Imam is held by devout Shi'ite Muslims to be a direct descendant of the Prophet Muhammad who went into "occlusion" in the ninth century at the age of five and hasn't been seen since.

The Hidden Imam, as he is also known by his followers, will only return after a period of cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed – what Christians call the Apocalypse – and then lead the world into an era of universal peace.

Rumours abound of Mr Ahmadinejad's devotion to the 12th Imam, and last year it was reported that he had persuaded his cabinet to sign a "contract" pledging themselves to work for his return.

Another example of his messianic tendencies surfaced after 108 people were killed in an aircraft crash in Teheran. Mr Ahmadinejad praised the victims, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

For many of the hundreds of delegates who attended Mr Ahmadinejad's speech to the UN this week, his discourse on the merits of the 12th Imam finally brought home the reality of the danger his regime poses to world peace.

Rather than allaying concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions, Mr Ahmadinejad spoke at length about how a Muslim saviour would relieve the world's suffering.

The era of Western predominance was drawing to a close, he said, and would soon be replaced by a "bright future" ushered in by the 12th Imam's return. "Without any doubt, the Promised One, who is the ultimate Saviour, will come. The pleasing aroma of justice will permeate the whole world."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BZ43B440BTK1VQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/09/28/do2804.xml

Born-again Christians (Bush claims he's one embarassed), hold very similar beliefs regarding the second-coming of Christ.

The reporter's bias against Islam is self-evident.
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Oct 02, 2007
RichyBlacK:

Born-again Christians (Bush claims he's one embarassed), hold very similar beliefs regarding the second-coming of Christ.

The reporter's bias against Islam is self-evident.

The difference is that Christians dont go to the UN general assembly to discuss the book of Revelation!
Re: Ahmadinejad Visiting U.S.A? by Mariory(m): 5:44pm On Oct 02, 2007
davidylan:

The difference is that Christians don't go to the UN general assembly to discuss the book of Revelation!

Amen! Or other sane Muslims for that matter.

Imagine this, Nigeria is under threat of sanctions and our Christian president goes to the National Assembly to explain why we should not be put under sanctions. And instead our leader begins lecturing other world leaders on the second coming of Jesus Christ, or on what to do to get to heaven. Would it not be logical to class such a person as senile?

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