honesttalk21:


You stubbornly refuse to acknowledge your false claim that prophet Muhammad pbuh will burn and come out as a skeleton.

Did Jesus not say during the Last Supper: “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3)?

Jesus acknowledges being sent by God but you rather twist this to be God sent God?

He also told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44) and commanded his disciples, “believe in God, believe also in Me” (John 14.1) The belief in me is Jesus emphasis as bearing word from God. Not equating himself to or calling himself God

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "I will be the first to intercede and the first whose intercession will be accepted. I will be the first to be granted permission to intercede and the first to intercede. I will be the first for whom the earth will be split open, and I will be the first to cross the Sirat (bridge over Hell), and I will be the first to enter Paradise." (Sahih Muslim Book 1)

You obviously turn a blind eye to

...Verily those (hooks) would be like the thorns of Sa'dan, but no one knows their size except Allah. These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds till they get salvation.

Disappointed you cannot hoodwink me as you do others? May Allah keep me on the right path and save me and other Muslims from getting misled by you and your type. Ameen

Ken4Christ:


Use your brain. If Jesus is not God in human flesh he won't make most of the statements he made.

1. He accepted worship
2. Angels are commanded to worship him.
3. He knew he had no beginning.
4. He will judge both your Allah and Mohammed.
5. He has the keys of hell and death. When Allah deceives you to hell, you can't come out because the key is with Jesus.
6. He has the power to give life. In fact he life himself.

Even your Quran acknowledges the superiority of Jesus and said his followers are superior to those who don't believe - Sura 3:55

He only became man to save us all.

And whenever he acknowledges God, he speaks from his human perspective.

Which ordinary man can say, he who has seen me has seen the Father?

The problem with you is that you are looking at few scriptures that appears to support your opinion and ignore many more others that affirms his divinity.

Read the prayer of Jesus in John 17. He told the father to glorify him with the glory he had before the world began. He was conscious of his pre existence.

The choice is yours. Time is running out. Jesus is coming back soon.

Ken4Christ:


Use your brain. If Jesus is not God in human flesh he won't make most of the statements he made.

1. He accepted worship
2. Angels are commanded to worship him.
3. He knew he had no beginning.
4. He will judge both your Allah and Mohammed.
5. He has the keys of hell and death. When Allah deceives you to hell, you can't come out because the key is with Jesus.
6. He has the power to give life. In fact he life himself.

Even your Quran acknowledges the superiority of Jesus and said his followers are superior to those who don't believe - Sura 3:55

He only became man to save us all.

And whenever he acknowledges God, he speaks from his human perspective.

Which ordinary man can say, he who has seen me has seen the Father?

The problem with you is that you are looking at few scriptures that appears to support your opinion and ignore many more others that affirms his divinity.

Read the prayer of Jesus in John 17. He told the father to glorify him with the glory he had before the world began. He was conscious of his pre existence.

The choice is yours. Time is running out. Jesus is coming back soon.

honesttalk21:


Is a representative of one totally equal the the one represented. Can the representative take on issues outside the purview/limits of representation?

And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, till the Day of Resurrection


When Allah raised `Isa a.s to heaven, his followers divided into sects and groups. Some of them believed in what Allah sent `Isa as, a servant of Allah, His Messenger, and the son of His female-servant.

However, some of them went to the extreme over `Isa, believing that he was the son of Allah. Some of them said that `Isa was Allah Himself, while others said that he was one of a Trinity. Allah mentioned these false creeds in the Qur'an and refuted them.

The Christians remained like this until the third century CE, when a Greek king called, Constantine, became a Christian for the purpose of destroying Christianity. Constantine was either a philosopher, or he was just plain ignorant. Constantine changed the religion of `Isa by adding to it and deleting from it. He established the rituals of Christianity and the so-called Great Trust, which is in fact the Great Treachery. He also allowed them to eat the meat of swine, changed the direction of the prayer that `Isa established to the east, built churches for `Isa, and added ten days to the fast as compensation for a sin that he committed, as claimed. So the religion of `Isa became the religion of Constantine, who built more then twelve thousand churches, temples and monasteries for the Christians as well as the city that bears his name, Constantinople (Istanbul). Throughout this time, the Christians had the upper hand and dominated the Jews. Allah aided them against the Jews because they used to be closer to the truth than the Jews, even though both groups were and still are disbelievers, may Allah's curse descend on them.

When Allah sent Muhammad, those who believed in him also believed in Allah, His Angels, Books and Messengers in the correct manner. So they were the true followers of every Prophet who came to earth. They believed in the unlettered Prophet, the Final Messenger and the master of all mankind, who called them to believe in the truth in its entirety. This is why they had more right to every Prophet than his own nation, especially those who claim to follow their Prophet's way and religion, yet change and alter his religion. Furthermore, Allah abrogated all the laws that were sent down to the Prophets with the Law He sent Muhammad with, which consists of the true religion that shall never change or be altered until the commencement of the Last Hour. Muhammad's religion shall always be dominant and victorious over all other religions. This is why Allah allowed Muslims to conquer the eastern and western parts of the world and the kingdoms of the earth. Furthermore, all countries submitted to them; they demolished Kisra (king of Persia) and destroyed the Czar, ridding them of their treasures and spending these treasures for Allah's sake. All this occurred just as their Prophet told them it would, when he conveyed Allah's statement.


It is God who created all life (Genesis 1), numbers our days (Psalm 90:10-12), and determines when we die (Hebrews 9:27).

Ken4Christ:


Answer this simple question. If Jesus is not the Son of God, whose son is he? Give proof to your anspwer. Please, don't deviate

Ken4Christ:


Mohammed is in hell.. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770

I will respond to you other points later.

honesttalk21:


Jesus is the son of Mary and is a miraculous conception without a father fulfilling this miraculous sign as a prophet and messenger of Allah to the Children of Israel.

I answered your misconception about Quran 3:55 and you claim I deviate?

Obviously you ask so many questions so which do I answer? I choose to answer what is most relevant as the others are the non essential you delude yourself with.

I see you choose to not fulfil your word here:



It is to be expected when you fail to show your earlier claim that prophet Muhammad places a ladder nor show proof that Muhammad is in hell by your false claim of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770.

Prophet Muhammad pbuh is the first to cross over the bridge and this bridge leads where?

Ken4Christ:


Mary is the mother. Who is the Father?

Please stop bringing the issue of Mohammed placing a ladder. That is not important. What matters is that he is on hell. He crossed the ladder and we are not told he came out.

Every child has a father and a mother. The case of Jesus can't be different. If man did not put the baby Jesus there, God did. So, he is the Son of God as revealed in the Bible.

Ken4Christ:


Please stop bringing the issue of Mohammed placing a ladder. That is not important. What matters is that he is on hell. He crossed the ladder and we are not told he came out.

honesttalk21:


Interesting you have just one point to respond to now. Do you really know members of MEND and choose to deny them as Christians now?

Is it false that MEND are affiliated to
Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force (ND Pavp) and the Niger Delta Peoples Salvation Front (NDPSF)? Are all these people too not Christian?

You say Charles and Henry Okah are not Christian?

Can you clearly and unambiguously provide evidence to support the terrorist instruction to Muslims you claim is in the Quran?

I have clarified your wrongly understanding of what is said in Quran 19:71-72 and shown that Muslims are not going to first enter hell.

honesttalk21:


Your response shows it is impossible for you to see otherwise. In a listed manner you present templates of argument which you wrongly convince yourself to use as justification.

To your first paragraph can you tell me how much rain will fall tomorrow and how many drops will land on you directly and your vehicle? What time exactly it will rain and where you will be?

Can you explicitly show where it is stated I will enter into hell first. Kindly provide the arabic words and actual meaning then review the context?

If you are a slave is it not more honoring to be a slave to Allah the almighty and sole God rather than man or undesirable variations in daily leaving? Do you know the actual meaning of the concept of sons of God? Is it literal?
Even if it's symbolic, do you belittle your God so much that you make him have children like mortal man?

Is it like Greek mythology where Zeus bore Hercules and other children?

Does son of God not refer to one in conformity to the guidance of God who enjoys God's care as a result of humble submission ?

How are women made second class? Do not confuse culture or tradition for honourable position of women in islam.

In Islam, women hold an honorable and respected position. The teachings of Islam emphasize the dignity, rights, and equality of women in all aspects of life. Here are some key points highlighting the honorable position of women in Islam:

In the eyes of Allah, men and women are equal in terms of their spiritual duties and responsibilities. Both men and women have the same potential to earn rewards, seek knowledge, and draw closer to Allah through worship and good deeds.

Islam grants women various social rights, including the right to education, work, own property, and participate in public life. Women are encouraged to seek knowledge, engage in business, and contribute to society while fulfilling their roles as mothers and caretakers.

Islam emphasizes the protection and respect of women. Men are instructed to treat women with kindness, compassion, and fairness. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "The best of you are those who are best to their wives."

Threat to kill converts? How? You obviously write what you don't have any knowledge about?

Is hope not seen in verses of the Quran that state that after difficulties comes ease, the eternal reward of paradise for the righteous and the bountiful forgiving mercies of Allah?

Are you certain that only acclaimed Muslims terrorise Nigeria? Were the famous Shina Rambo and Anini Muslims? Are the members of the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) who kidnap and vandalise national and private infrastructure Muslims?

Allah surely heals the seek and raises the dead, who other than Allah can do these? Muslims don't attach to miracles like others do as these things can easily be manipulated by tricksters and the Devil himself?

It's grossly disappointing that you seem to attach the loss of history from Nigeria's education system to Islam. Can you not research to understand obvious and hidden reasons for this?

Sadly, your lumping many issues together at once shows you lack resources to exhaustively discuss and finish one issue at time and look to bamboozle with many questions.

Kindly do better or be quiet please.

TenQ:

Mr AntiChristian,
Did you even read the rebuttal your referenced?

Mr Liar,
Would the evildoers in verse 72 also pass by hell fire?

Self deluded human beings who will take the words of their prophet over that of their supposed Allah.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

I understand that the bridge is down and not up.

Quran 19:72 
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."

Verse 71 says
1. ALL Muslims will enter Hell fire

2. It is a Fixed inescapable Decree of Allah

Verse 72 says
1. After an undetermined time, Allah will remove you Muslims and leave the bad people hobbling on their knees

Continue to cook up lies for yourself!

AntiChristian:
Did you even read the link i included?

AntiChristian:

The self deluded human is the one trying to reinterpret our scriptures for us! The hadith is clear as well as the verse! Muslims will pass over the bridge. And the bridge is over hell.
Wrongdoers among Muslims will fall into it and will be punished for a time.

AntiChristian:

Non-Muslims would have been led to hell already before that!
Only Psychiatric civil engineers think like this! Bridges are set up over something!

AntiChristian:

Where did the the verse say "Enter hell"?
That's the bridge of Siraat!
Allah will remove the wrongdoers who has some amount of faith!

honesttalk21:


Therein is the miracle or you cannot read that?
The almighty shows his majesty in humanity by doing that. God is far above having a child.
This is your problem. More so not understanding the etymology of God being called father in Hebrew/Israelite culture.

I will remind you of your statement about prophet Muhammad pbuh placing a ladder which is another one of your deliberate lies.

You claim you are not told he came out when it is said he is the first to cross the ladder. What does the emboldened mean in English? I sense you are Kenechukwu who suddenly doesn't understand what he writes.

The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye (Prophet Muhammad pbuh being the first), or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.

A ladder shown in Christian artwork and symbolism generally represents the concept of ascension to heaven or a transverse ladder acting as a bridge to righteousness.

Your post reads As-Sirat (A BRIDGE) WILL BE LAID ACROSS HELL AND I (MUHAMMAD) SHALL BE THE FIRST AMONGST THE APOSTLES TO CROSS IT WITH MY FOLLOWERS

Why are you so obsessed that your sense of intellect is turned off?

Sadat will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell


The Messenger - ﷺ - said in a Hadeeth about [the Sirat1] that was narrated by Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri:

...So there would be the safe and successful, the bruised, the imprisoned, and those who are piled into it upside down [the Fire].
Collected by ibn Majah #3472, Ahmad: 3/11 #11096, Ibn Hibban: 16/377 #7377, al-Hakim: 4/628 - who authenticated it with the conditions of Muslim, and authenticated by al-Albani in Saheeh Sunan ibn Majah.
Ibn Abi Hamza commented:

It is understood from the Hadeeth that those who pass over the Sirat are of three categories:

1. A successful one who passes without any bruises.

2. An unsuccessful one from the start.

3. The middle ground, one who is afflicted but is then successful.
Each one of these categories consists of subcategories that are known by the phrase:

According to their deeds [i.e they will be of varying speeds according to their past actions]

There is another fourth category, and they are:

Those who are stuck there as was mentioned in the Hadeeth of Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri that has preceded.

TenQ:


Tell me, how would the Jews and Christians be used as ransom for you Muslims?
Is this not even suspicious to you?

Where did you see this?
Where is your Reference?

Tell me where Allah mentioned the bridge of Sirat?

Allah will remove the wrongdoers who has some amount of faith from where!?
Is it not hell fire?

Ken4Christ:


God affirmed Jesus to be his son twice in the Bible.

The first was during his baptism. A voice was heard from heaven;

Matthew 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

On another occasion when Jesus was transfigured, a voice spoke from heaven;

Matthew 7:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Ken4Christ:


God affirmed Jesus to be his son twice in the Bible.

The first was during his baptism. A voice was heard from heaven;

Matthew 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

On another occasion when Jesus was transfigured, a voice spoke from heaven;

Matthew 7:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

honesttalk21:


Glad to see you now abandon your false belief and talk about Prophet Muhammad pbuh and Muslims in hell.

Doesn't the book of Luke 3 in verse 38 say Adam is the son of God? "the son of Enosh,the son of Seth, the son of Adam,the son of God.

You will most likely then say 1st Adam and 2nd Adam but seriously are all men not descendants of Adam?

In first-century Judaism, baptism was performed for reasons of ritual purity, as prescribed in the book of Leviticus. This practice was later adopted by “God-fearers” or “righteous” Gentiles as a sign of their covenant with Abraham upon converting to Judaism.

John the Baptist introduced a new form of baptism, known as the “baptism of repentance” (Mark 1:4), which marked a significant shift in its meaning and purpose. Jesus got baptised by him and in line of his mission perhaps this was a good place for him to be introduced to the Israelites he was sent to?

John the Baptist’s baptism differed from the earlier Jewish practice in that it was a baptism of repentance, symbolizing the forgiveness of sins and preparation for the coming of the Messiah (Matthew 3:1-12). This new form of baptism gained significance with the arrival of Jesus Christ, who submitted to John’s baptism (Matthew 3:13-17) and subsequently instructed his disciples to baptize others (Matthew 28:19).

Ezekiel 18:1-32 emphasizes individual responsibility for sin and the possibility of repentance and forgiveness. Is it not true that
Ezekiel 18:23 says, Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked,declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his ways (repent) and live? Is the baptism of Jesus in accordance with this?

Other “sons of God” in the Bible include the nation of Israel, which is called the son of God (and even the firstborn son) in Exodus 4:22; Then you will tell him, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son, Jeremiah 31:9; They will come with weeping;they will pray as I bring them back.I will lead them beside streams of water on a level path where they will not stumble,because I am Israel’s father,
and Ephraim is my firstborn son, Hosea 11:1; When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son and Psalm 89:27 too reads I 27 “I also shall make him My firstborn, The highest of the kings of the earth in regards to David.

So what is the big deal? The miracle sign shown in Mary not copulating with a man or being married? Do you want to determine what and how God shows miracles to mankind to make them believe?

Allah enjoins that excesses should not be made regarding the birth or nature of Jesus who he sent.

In the Qur'an, Allah instructs believers not to commit excesses or go to extremes in their beliefs about Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace be upon him) and his birth. This guidance is aimed at maintaining the proper understanding and reverence for Prophet Isa within the framework of monotheism.

When God does a miracle such that rain falls just before you but not on you do you make a big deal of It?

Or rainfall under the bright sun shine.

Please stop entertaining fables and talelike explanations of your scripture

AntiChristian:


Jesus said, “Blessed are the peacemakers, because they will be called sons of God” (Matt. 5:9)

I said, ‘You are “gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6, John 10:34

Everyone is Elohim! Every peacemaker is son of God!
No be only Jesus!

AntiChristian:
Where is that stated?

AntiChristian:

The same Hadith your friend quoted!

AntiChristian:

Allah did not mention bridge as well as hell in that verse!
Allah mentioned it through the Prophet! Don't you believe it when Jesus said he judge as he hear.

AntiChristian:

Verily, We have inspired you (O Muhammad SAW) as We inspired Nuh (Noah) and the Prophets after him; We (also) inspired Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob), and Al­Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)], 'Iesa (Jesus), Ayub (Job), Yunus (Jonah), Harun (Aaron), and Sulaiman (Solomon), and to Dawud (David) We gave the Zabur (Psalms). Qur'an 4:163

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me - John 5:30
Unfortunatly, Mohammed is not qualified to be a messenger of the God of Israel.


[quote author=AntiChristian post=130575903]
Yes, from hell. This is clear from the Hadith! But you lied all Muslims will enter hell. Only those with negative balance deeds will enter it.

Ken4Christ:


Others who were referred to as sons of God were in a different context. Did any of those you mentioned ever called God Father?

Jesus wasn't just the Son o God, he was referred to as the only begotten Son of God. Begotten means he had the same DNA of God in him. He is essentially God in human flesh.

And when he rose from the dead, he is called the first begotten from the dead. No one ever rose from the dead to die no more. Jesus was the first.

God is his Father and Jesus is the very image of God in human flesh. No wonder he told Thomas that he who has seen me has seen the Father. No mortal man talks that way.

honesttalk21:


They did call God father or you don't know your scripture.

In Isaiah 63:
7. I will tell of the kindnesses of the Lord,
the deeds for which he is to be praised,
according to all the Lord has done for us—
yes, the many good things he has done for
Israel, according to his compassion and
many kindnesses.
8. He said, “Surely they are my people,
children who will be true to me”;
and so he became their Savior.
9 In all their distress he too was distressed,
and the angel of his presence saved them.
[a]
In his love and mercy he redeemed them;
he lifted them up and carried them
all the days of old.
10 Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy
Spirit. So he turned and became their
enemy and he himself fought against them.

11 Then his people recalled[b] the days of old,
the days of Moses and his people— where is
he who brought them through the sea, with
the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who
set his Holy Spirit among them,
12 who sent his glorious arm of power
to be at Moses’ right hand, who divided the
waters before them, to gain for himself
everlasting renown,
13 who led them through the depths? Like a
horse in open country, they did not
stumble;
14 like cattle that go down to the plain,
they were given rest by the Spirit of the
Lord.This is how you guided your people
to make for yourself a glorious name.

15 Look down from heaven and see, from your
lofty throne, holy and glorious. Where are
your zeal and your might? Your tenderness
and compassion are withheld from us.
16 But you are our Father, though Abraham
does not know us or Israel acknowledge us;
you, Lord, are our Father, our Redeemer
from of old is your name.

Is the emboldened verse 16 not the speech of Israelites likely the Jews who were taken into captivity by the Babylonians after the fall of Jerusalem in 586 BCE.? Where did they derive the culture to call God father from?

Adam is not the image of God?

Adam had no human parents and God is not human, yet the very Word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit, uses these terms. This helps us realize that “son” in reference to Adam as well as Jesus; and “Father” in reference to God means something other than a biological son and a biological father.

Ken4Christ:


The context God was referred to as father was in the context of his relationship with the entire nation of Israel. Name any prophet of old that called God his father in a personal relationship. You won't find one.

Besides, there are other titles Jesus claimed that was exclusively for God such as

1. I Am
2. I am the first and the last.

Jesus is the full expression of his Father. God the Father is invisible. If you want to see God, look at Jesus.

Mohammed is an anti Christ. He has brainwashed you all to reject the truth in the Bible. But you can deliver yourself from this deception. The choice is yours

Ken4Christ:


You lie more than the devil himself. Which message does Islam have? Message of frustration where Mohammed is unsure of his destiny and that of the followers?

Message that says you will all enter into hell first?

Message that turns you into a slave of Allah? In Christianity, we are sons of God.

Message that makes women second class citizens?

Message that puts fear in adherents threatening to kill them if they convert?

Which Message? You don't have a message. No hope in Islam. No salvation in Islam.

Can your Allah heal the sick and raise the dead?

Can he save a sinner from his sinful ways?

How many Muslims can testify that they have a changed life? Are they not the terrorist causing insecurity in Nigeria. Please, say something else.

No wonder the government removed history from schools so you won't know where you are coming from.

Ken4Christ:


I agree. But Jesus was the only begotten Son of God. In other words, he became a Son of God by birth. The rest of us are sons of God by adoption.

Jesus is the express image of God his Father.

TenQ:

Riyad as-Salihin 432
Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will deliver to every Muslim, a Jew or a Christian and say: 'This is your ransom from Hell-fire."'
Another narration is: Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with sins as heavy as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them".

Tell me, how would the Jews and Christians be used as ransom for you Muslims?
Is this not even suspicious to you?

I don't know the hadith anyone quoted unless you tell me
So, what is your reference that Non-Muslims would have been led to hell already before that!

Because Allah says that he would recognize you Muslims in hell from the mark of prostration on your head (which would not be burned by the fire)

Allah still did NOT mention any bridge in the Quran.

AntiChristian:


First and foremost i have earnestly tried Christianity earlier in life in my formative years and i see no substance in it. There's no connection at all of Christians today with the historic Jesus. It's like a "white" Jesus was created for you guys!

Who would persecute me? My Parents then were not that strict on religious matters!

It changes nothing!

It is clear you guys are liars! Anyone in this thread looking for the truth will of course check out the link i posted up there!
And the truth will calm the mind setting him/her free!

AntiChristian:


How will it be suspicious to me when i know the context and don't judge with just one or two reports i see? We believe those who believed in Jesus and Moses and followed their ways till death are Muslims not Christians or Jew! Jesus didn't create Christianity just as Moses didn't create Judaism! So those who go by such names will end up getting the Muslim's portion of hell! That's a worthy ransom!

Everyone has their own portion of hell and heaven! When you disbelievers enter your hell, you give up your heaven to us believers!
Likewise we give up our portion of hell to you!

AntiChristian:


The long hadith your Ken4christ friend quoted here https://www.nairaland.com/8113575/what-did-jesus-forget-why/4#130460861
The disbelievers had already followed whatever they worshipped and only Muslims and hypocrites remain!

AntiChristian:

Some Muslims will enter hell to be punished for their sins and will be interceded for later. Isn't this clear?

AntiChristian:

Was hell mentioned in that verse?

AntiChristian:


Begotten mean God gave birth to him like an animal right?

Ken4Christ:


The Word which was always with God became flesh in the person of Jesus. It was through the power of the Holy Spirit.

AntiChristian:


Where was it stated like this in the Bible?

Theology of Nicene 325AD!