I’ve never seen a successful woman earning millions in Nigeria migrate to take on blue collar jobs in a bid to “secure the children’s future” whereas this is common with men?

Why is it that when the woman is the bread winner, she stays but when the man is the bread winner, all of a sudden the children’s future are nolonger secure in Nigeria and the man has to sacrifice to take on demeaning jobs abroad all in the name of Japa?

Women dont have the ability to think on the long-run about anything concerning their lives.

maybe because women are smart and men are foolish... any person who makes millions in Nigeria should definitely STAY IN NIGERIA, as nothing abroad will bring them more than what they are earning in Nigeria (aka power/status etc)

putting your secure family in jeopardy to japa, is ABSURD

Women are less likely to take risks with their own money. Behind most families japaing today, the wives are the ones pushing for it the most.

how many successful women do we have in Nigeria you dumbass? is very hard or near impossible for a woman to hustle from nothing to something in this country, the few successful women we have in Nigeria are the daughters of rich men or politicias or pretty ladies that used the thing in between their legs. so they dont have any business with japa.

so that they may abuse their house help freely.

It's not easy to get husband there , that's why most that have traveled out have kids already.

Evolutionary, men are the ones who fight for their families' futures. So, it is not out of place for men to strive for higher heights. However, part of the recent japa is attributed to Nigerian women - wives to successful men. Some of these women even cajole their husbands that they want to birth in countries which offer citizenship based on jus soil. So, it is a catch-22.

Humans migrate for different reasons.

Nigerian women Japa more than the men. They just aren't loud about it.

tensazangetsu20:
Nigerian women Japa more than the men. They just aren't loud about it.

Sorry, but that cannot be true. Legally or illegally. In fact, it is recently we have more single and married women relocating by themselves. Before now, men emigrate more than women. It is a global phenomenon.

MrBrownJay1:
maybe because women are smart and men are foolish... any person who makes millions in Nigeria should definitely STAY IN NIGERIA, as nothing abroad will bring them more than what they are earning in Nigeria (aka power/status etc)

putting your secure family in jeopardy to japa, is ABSURD

It’s very sad because these women we throw it all away for donot even appreciate us. Check comments from the likes of Cococandy etc on here. Indeed, i agree that women are smarter than men.

This isn’t even hearsay, my cousin who was an engineer with an American IOC left his job because of his wife and is now a care worker abroad while the wife is a nurse.

Would this ever play out if she was the breadwinner in Nigeria? We both know the answer. Men are too short sighted to see that it’s all a means of power exchange. If i hear “securing my children’s future” one more time, i may throw up

abba190:
how many successful women do we have in Nigeria you dumbass? is very hard or near impossible for a woman to hustle from nothing to something in this country, the few successful women we have in Nigeria are the daughters of rich men or politicias or pretty ladies that used the thing in between their legs. so they dont have any business with japa.

Personalize this assertion to your immediate circle please. I see lots of successful women working with blue chip companies around me

Gerrard59:
Evolutionary, men are the ones who fight for their families' futures. So, it is not out of place for men to strive for higher heights. However, part of the recent japa is attributed to Nigerian women - wives to successful men. Some of these women even cajole their husbands that they want to birth in countries which offer citizenship based on jus soil. So, it is a catch-22.

Humans migrate for different reasons.

Yes i agree that men should be more sacrificial but only for traditional women who are submissive. With the current wave of equality, it has become untenable. Men do all this but are still not appreciated nor reverred. The consensus among modern women is that men are agents of oppression and slave masters. Why then do we keep sticking our necks out?

I became troubled in my spirit when i began to look into the current emigration wave. Nigeria has never been rosy. If you go back to comments right from the inception of nairaland, you would see thesame expressions of frustration with the state of things, so what changed? I theorize as follows:

1. It’s partly fueled by a massive propaganda machine by the west. It’s highly suspect that the country has suddenly become unbearable at thesame time these western countries are experiencing shortages in workforce, increasing ageing population etc. What a convenient coincidence. It’s well known that the west uses propaganda via media as a means to achieve their selfishness.

2. This is closely related to point 1. The massive demarketing of the country by sponsored agents is a ploy to lure highly skilled workers to take on blue collar jobs abroad. Imagine how prosperous Nigeria would be if kazeem who is a mechanic has a phD? Imagine if your office janitor is a CFA holder? He would surely add more value to that role. Highly qualified citizens of their country would never take up such roles but they are able to lure immigrants to do this for their own selfish benefit.

3. Less successful wives of successful men. The new trend is that the children are nolonger secure in Nigeria once the man is the bread winner. These short sighted men buy into the ploy but at the heart of it is just the quest for economic emancipation for the woman, at the expense of the man if need be. A female medical doctor would never relocate to become a carton packer abroad. She would rather tarry till she gets something more rewarding and of equal or higher status. Once she gets this, she has no problem with her high status husband resigning to become a forklifter abroad while she thrives in her white collar job under the guise of securing the future of the kids. I have seen this in my own family. It’s a ruthless game of power exchange.

4. Be careful who you listen to online because there are many anti state actors. Some are members of terrorist groups, others are aggrieved because their candidates lost the elections, etc. An account of the state of things from such people would definitely be different from that of a patriotic citizen. The danger here is, you slowly become what you read and so many people are being converted on a daily basis by those with an agenda. Yes things are hard but it has always been the case.

5. Losers who have squandered their lives. When this bunch were in school, they were the cultists etc and they graduated with poor grades. Unfortunately, their voices are the loudest when it comes to demarketing of Nigeria. You hear them say things like “ Nigeria to the dogs” etc. This bunch would gladly throw thesmselves at any opportunity abroad as a means of escape from their own failure, till they get there and fail again.

6. I refer to this set of people as victims. They aren’t in any of the categories above but they bought the propaganda either due to peer pressure or lack of an independent mind.

My submission is without prejudice to those who migrate for legitimate reasons.

tensazangetsu20:
Nigerian women Japa more than the men. They just aren't loud about it.

The way they just yarn useless baseless statistics

Do you know how many women I personally know who have left “good” jobs to travel abroad?

Someone wil just claim one nonsense statistic and run with it and his fellow dweebs will co-sign him on it as if it’s a fact

Wha stopped him from becoming a nurse too?

Iamblessed85:


It’s very sad because these women we throw it all away for donot even appreciate us. Check comments from the likes of Cococandy etc on here. Indeed, i agree that women are smarter than men.

This isn’t even hearsay, my cousin who was an engineer with an American IOC left his job because of his wife and is now a care worker abroad while the wife is a nurse.

Would this ever play out if she was the breadwinner in Nigeria? We both know the answer. Men are too short sighted to see that it’s all a means of power exchange. If i hear “securing my children’s future” one more time, i may throw up

Nigerians are simply leaving because naira to dollar/pound ratio is currently absurd. So they figure no matter how little or how much money they make abroad, they’ll cover their expenses and still come out ahead financially (whether that’s true or false is definitely based on individual situations).

But to write this nonsense conspiracy as some sort of explanation as to why this is happening without first acknowledging that financial difficulties is a top reason for the migration shows that this your thread is just another one of y’all’s incessant unrelenting attempts to keep vilifying women on this forum.

Iamblessed85:

Nigeria has never been rosy. If you go back to comments right from the inception of nairaland, you would see thesame expressions of frustration with the state of things, so what changed? I theorize as follows:

1. It’s partly fueled by a massive propaganda machine by the west. It’s highly suspect that the country has suddenly become unbearable at thesame time these western countries are experiencing shortages in workforce, increasing ageing population etc. What a convenient coincidence. It’s well known that the west uses propaganda via media as a means to achieve their selfishness.

Nigeria has never been rosy but now it’s absurdly difficult. Why are you skipping over that part? I promise you the west don’t even immigrants in their countries. Try a different theory

2. This is closely related to point 1. The massive demarketing of the country by sponsored agents is a ploy to lure highly skilled workers to take on blue collar jobs abroad. Imagine how prosperous Nigeria would be if kazeem who is a mechanic has a phD? Imagine if your office janitor is a CFA holder? He would surely add more value to that role. Highly qualified citizens of their country would never take up such roles but they are able to lure immigrants to do this for their own selfish benefit.

You really think western countries have their arms open
begging for immigrants to come in and work? Even the jobs they don’t want to do, they still don’t want you there doing it.

3. Less successful wives of successful men. The new trend is that the children are nolonger secure in Nigeria once the man is the bread winner. These short sighted men buy into the ploy but at the heart of it is just the quest for economic emancipation for the woman, at the expense of the man if need be. A female medical doctor would never relocate to become a carton packer abroad. She would rather tarry till she gets something more rewarding and of equal or higher status. Once she gets this, she has no problem with her high status husband resigning to become a forklifter abroad while she thrives in her white collar job under the guise of securing the future of the kids. I have seen this in my own family. It’s a ruthless game of power exchange.

what I don’t understand is who’s stopping these men from attaining the same goals their wives did.

4. Be careful who you listen to online because there are many anti state actors. Some are members of terrorist groups, others are aggrieved because their candidates lost the elections, etc. An account of the state of things from such people would definitely be different from that of a patriotic citizen. The danger here is, you slowly become what you read and so many people are being converted on a daily basis by those with an agenda. Yes things are hard but it has always been the case.

5. Losers who have squandered their lives. When this bunch were in school, they were the cultists etc and they graduated with poor grades. Unfortunately, their voices are the loudest when it comes to demarketing of Nigeria. You hear them say things like “ Nigeria to the dogs” etc. This bunch would gladly throw thesmselves at any opportunity abroad as a means of escape from their own failure, till they get there and fail again.

6. I refer to this set of people as victims. They aren’t in any of the categories above but they bought the propaganda either due to peer pressure or lack of an independent mind.

My submission is without prejudice to those who migrate for legitimate reasons.

Ah I see. You’re just a political miscreant who’s here to gaslight people and tell them the hardships they are facing under this administration is not real. That it’s only a result of propaganda. Maybe try telling their pockets to magically produce more money when they go to purchase things they used to buy for 500 which now sells for 2500. If you can make their pockets just stretch the money without any increase in their incomes or lowering of cost of goods, maybe then they’ll listen to you and not emigrate when they get the chance

abba190:
how many successful women do we have in Nigeria you dumbass? is very hard or near impossible for a woman to hustle from nothing to something in this country, the few successful women we have in Nigeria are the daughters of rich men or politicias or pretty ladies that used the thing in between their legs. so they dont have any business with japa.

Keep on deceiving yourself

Interesting read. Let's look at each deeply.

Iamblessed85:


Yes i agree that men should be more sacrificial but only for traditional women who are submissive. With the current wave of equality, it has become untenable. Men do all this but are still not appreciated nor reverred. The consensus among modern women is that men are agents of oppression and slave masters. Why then do we keep sticking our necks out?

Agreed. We are on the same page here. Modern women wanted rights, which they got, so they deserved to pair with so-called modern men. Men should focus on themselves FIRST and wholeheartedly before any woman. Woe betides a man who strives to offer the best in life to a social media justice warrior woman.

Good luck to those men.

I became troubled in my spirit when i began to look into the current emigration wave. Nigeria has never been rosy. If you go back to comments right from the inception of nairaland, you would see thesame expressions of frustration with the state of things, so what changed? I theorize as follows:

While it is true that Nigeria has never been rosy, Nigeria's economy got more worse when the majority of Nigerians campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. The data is there. Buhari was, has always been, and would always be incompetent. Unemployment rates soared while insecurity challenges, especially the kidnapping and brutal slaughtering of farmers, Christian worshippers in the north and travellers, ballooned. This led to a miniature refugee crisis of Nigerians in Nigeria.

1. It’s partly fueled by a massive propaganda machine by the west. It’s highly suspect that the country has suddenly become unbearable at thesame time these western countries are experiencing shortages in workforce, increasing ageing population etc. What a convenient coincidence. It’s well known that the west uses propaganda via media as a means to achieve their selfishness.

Sure. This theory looks tenable. David Hundeyin has mooted the same. But you cannot fully blame the West, as they cannot work alone without state actors, who I will describe as Nigerian elites across all levels. While other elites ensure their countries work for them (so they live within their homelands), ours pilfer state resources and park them abroad. Abi na the West tell Yahaya Bello to pay almost a million dollars as tuition fees at the American International School Abuja?

On the other hand, I do agree with you that the West has marketed itself so well to citizens in the developing world, especially poorer ones.

2. This is closely related to point 1. The massive demarketing of the country by sponsored agents is a ploy to lure highly skilled workers to take on blue collar jobs abroad. Imagine how prosperous Nigeria would be if kazeem who is a mechanic has a phD? Imagine if your office janitor is a CFA holder? He would surely add more value to that role. Highly qualified citizens of their country would never take up such roles but they are able to lure immigrants to do this for their own selfish benefit.

I do somewhat agree that the country has been demarketed to an extent, but the stats show that things aren't working as fine or as they should. For instance, if the country had a similar GDP growth rate as in 2012, most people would not japa. In fact, that period witnessed droves of Nigerians returning from the abroad, especially the UK and environs. Some of the reigning entertainers returned during that period.

As for taking advantage of qualified citizens from developing countries, it makes sense to the host country.

P.S. No Nigerian CFA holder would be a janitor in the abroad sha. But I get your point.

3. Less successful wives of successful men. The new trend is that the children are nolonger secure in Nigeria once the man is the bread winner. These short sighted men buy into the ploy but at the heart of it is just the quest for economic emancipation for the woman, at the expense of the man if need be. A female medical doctor would never relocate to become a carton packer abroad. She would rather tarry till she gets something more rewarding and of equal or higher status. Once she gets this, she has no problem with her high status husband resigning to become a forklifter abroad while she thrives in her white collar job under the guise of securing the future of the kids. I have seen this in my own family. It’s a ruthless game of power exchange.

First thing, ALL Nigerian elites have second passports, especially of countries in the West. So, if middle-class Nigerians aspire to get the same, I don't see anything wrong with it. This brings to my earlier point that some of the wives of most successful men cajole or coax their husbands in supporting them to birth children in jus soil countries so that the children possess a different nationality, which is superior regarding global migration. In other words, having more options. Human needs are insatiable. Humans would always aspire for more. This is something wives of oil companies' staff (permanent staff) and C-suite staff did during the heydays of high oil prices. Again, every Nigerian elite or upper-middle-class person has another passport, stronger, other than the Nigerian one.

Middle class Nigerians are simply copying what those above them do. No more do I say, it is now we will do as you do.. I have written about it here extensively: https://www.nairaland.com/7482300/importance-acquiring-second-passport-young#119276976

4. Be careful who you listen to online because there are many anti state actors. Some are members of terrorist groups, others are aggrieved because their candidates lost the elections, etc. An account of the state of things from such people would definitely be different from that of a patriotic citizen. The danger here is, you slowly become what you read and so many people are being converted on a daily basis by those with an agenda. Yes things are hard but it has always been the case.

First, Nigeria is just a mere geographical expression - Awolowo. The phrase "patriotic Nigerian" is an oxymoron. It does not exist. Nigerians pledge allegiance to their ethnic groups. Also, it is perfectly fine for some ethnic groups to have grievances against Nigeria. Nigeria's history is replete with ill-actions against some ethnic groups.

5. Losers who have squandered their lives. When this bunch were in school, they were the cultists etc and they graduated with poor grades. When they see that their mates are far ahead of them, of course the country would be useless in their eyes. They would gladly throw thesmselves at any opportunity to level up abroad in a bid to catch up.

That is a brash term to label people who want to better their lives. One, not everyone can be a high academic achiever. In fact, the surest route to leave Nigeria is via studies, and the highest chances of being sponsored as a scholar are for those who excel academically. Two, people have different goals in life. Three, some persons have lost capital and the best way to recoup is by going abroad to earn foreign income. Nothing wrong with this aspiration. People have the right to better their lives. If the opportunities are limited due to anaemic growth or too much population, and they believe by going outside they will get those opportunities, let them do so. Four, some want to live quiet lives in safe places. Nigeria has gotten unsafe over the past few years. The data is out there to see. Again, almost every Nigerian elite once worked abroad. The link I mentioned is replete with names of now elite Nigerians who worked abroad. Are we saying they were losers? Even their children are based abroad. So, why is it wrong for middle-class Nigerians to do the same?

Sure, this is a Nigerian forum, but Nigerians aren't the only ones emigrating. Indians and Chinese are notorious for emigrating. Chinese do so because of the stiff competition due to a high population. For Indians, I don't know. However, I have read a study which showed that over 90% of top academic achievers in the Indian versions of WASSCE, JAMB and university CGPA relocated and now live outside India. The majority live in the US and to an extent UK. Are top graduates from elite IITs losers as well?

6. I refer to this set of people as victims. They aren’t in any of the categories above but they bought the propaganda either due to peer pressure or lack of an independent mind.

Sure, this one exists.

My submission is without prejudice to those who migrate for legitimate reasons.

You make it seem as if the majority who emigrated within the past few years did so illegally. The thing is: migration is human. Humans would always migrate. As I write, there are droves of British doctors (majority white) who are leaving the UK to go work in Australia. In fact, recruiters from Australia organise recruitment shows at hospitals in the UK to lure them. Humans would always migrate. Additionally, there are many young Brits who move to the Gulf States to work and live. In Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal, it is a long-standing tradition for both high and low academic achievers to move to Germany, Austria and Switzerland in search of jobs. There is something you have to understand here: humans WILL always pursue their economic interests over their rights.

If not for growing immigration controls and inventions such as visas and passports, migration would have skyrocketed beyond what it is.

Iamblessed85:


It’s very sad because these women we throw it all away for donot even appreciate us. Check comments from the likes of Cococandy etc on here. Indeed, i agree that women are smarter than men.

This isn’t even hearsay, my cousin who was an engineer with an American IOC left his job because of his wife and is now a care worker abroad while the wife is a nurse.

Would this ever play out if she was the breadwinner in Nigeria? We both know the answer. Men are too short sighted to see that it’s all a means of power exchange. If i hear “securing my children’s future” one more time, i may throw up

I find that extremely surprising. Except he was sacked, was not a permanent staff or was brutally attacked either by assassins or village people. Why would an IOC permanent staff relocate to the UK sef (since you mentioned care worker)?

MrBrownJay1:
maybe because women are smart and men are foolish... any person who makes millions in Nigeria should definitely STAY IN NIGERIA, as nothing abroad will bring them more than what they are earning in Nigeria (aka power/status etc)

putting your secure family in jeopardy to japa, is ABSURD

Japa is more than about making money.

I woke up to this comment. I know for sure I'm going to have a great day! It is refreshing to know there are still highly intelligent people around. Kudos!

Iamblessed85:


Yes i agree that men should be more sacrificial but only for traditional women who are submissive. With the current wave of equality, it has become untenable. Men do all this but are still not appreciated nor reverred. The consensus among modern women is that men are agents of oppression and slave masters. Why then do we keep sticking our necks out?

I became troubled in my spirit when i began to look into the current emigration wave. Nigeria has never been rosy. If you go back to comments right from the inception of nairaland, you would see thesame expressions of frustration with the state of things, so what changed? I theorize as follows:

1. It’s partly fueled by a massive propaganda machine by the west. It’s highly suspect that the country has suddenly become unbearable at thesame time these western countries are experiencing shortages in workforce, increasing ageing population etc. What a convenient coincidence. It’s well known that the west uses propaganda via media as a means to achieve their selfishness.

2. This is closely related to point 1. The massive demarketing of the country by sponsored agents is a ploy to lure highly skilled workers to take on blue collar jobs abroad. Imagine how prosperous Nigeria would be if kazeem who is a mechanic has a phD? Imagine if your office janitor is a CFA holder? He would surely add more value to that role. Highly qualified citizens of their country would never take up such roles but they are able to lure immigrants to do this for their own selfish benefit.

3. Less successful wives of successful men. The new trend is that the children are nolonger secure in Nigeria once the man is the bread winner. These short sighted men buy into the ploy but at the heart of it is just the quest for economic emancipation for the woman, at the expense of the man if need be. A female medical doctor would never relocate to become a carton packer abroad. She would rather tarry till she gets something more rewarding and of equal or higher status. Once she gets this, she has no problem with her high status husband resigning to become a forklifter abroad while she thrives in her white collar job under the guise of securing the future of the kids. I have seen this in my own family. It’s a ruthless game of power exchange.

4. Be careful who you listen to online because there are many anti state actors. Some are members of terrorist groups, others are aggrieved because their candidates lost the elections, etc. An account of the state of things from such people would definitely be different from that of a patriotic citizen. The danger here is, you slowly become what you read and so many people are being converted on a daily basis by those with an agenda. Yes things are hard but it has always been the case.

5. Losers who have squandered their lives. When this bunch were in school, they were the cultists etc and they graduated with poor grades. Unfortunately, their voices are the loudest when it comes to demarketing of Nigeria. You hear them say things like “ Nigeria to the dogs” etc. This bunch would gladly throw thesmselves at any opportunity abroad as a means of escape from their own failure, till they get there and fail again.

6. I refer to this set of people as victims. They aren’t in any of the categories above but they bought the propaganda either due to peer pressure or lack of an independent mind.

My submission is without prejudice to those who migrate for legitimate reasons.

Reading through comments, I think alot of people are mixing things up: the topic isn't about migration as a whole, the topic is specific as to why successful women are less likely to give up their success here and migrate than successful men are doing.
Someone said the statistics is not true, maybe that person should provide the true statistic. But in the meantime, OP, myself and alot of other commenter can relate, and statistics is about population sampling.
Back to the topic: for me, I think, men, especially in this part of the world have long been manipulated with a mixture of flattery and shaming to always sacrifice themselves for their women. This is being packaged as a sacrifice for the "family" i.e the kids. This has driven many men to early graves. Leaving those women to enjoy everything. The kids were just decoys... The fatherly death rate is highest especially in the parts of the country where they fiercely promote men as bread winners and women as stay at home wives. It is still this same flattery and shaming that is making successful men take that plunge of giving up their success here to go abroad.

wonder233:
Reading through comments, I think alot of people are mixing things up: the topic isn't about migration as a whole, the topic is specific as to why successful women are less likely to give up their success here and migrate than successful men are doing.
Someone said the statistics is not true, maybe that person should provide the true statistic. But in the meantime, OP, myself and alot of other commenter can relate, and statistics is about population sampling.
Back to the topic: for me, I think, men, especially in this part of the world have long been manipulated with a mixture of flattery and shaming to always sacrifice themselves for their women. This is being packaged as a sacrifice for the "family" i.e the kids. This has driven many men to early graves. Leaving those women to enjoy everything. The kids were just decoys... The fatherly death rate is highest especially in the parts of the country where they fiercely promote men as bread winners and women as stay at home wives. It is still this same flattery and shaming that is making successful men take that plunge of giving up their success here to go abroad.

God bless you for this. Infact you have opened my eyes more to the wickedness. It’s all manipulation and nothing else. Men are really dying off without even knowing the cause. The moment your eyes open up to these things, it becomes a burden on you if you donot save as much as you can.

Gerrard59:


I find that extremely surprising. Except he was sacked, was not a permanent staff or was brutally attacked either by assassins or village people. Why would an IOC permanent staff relocate to the UK sef (since you mentioned care worker)?

You’re right, he was a contract staff but with the option of constant renewal because he was involved in a long term project. Needless to say he was also earning millions too. He now works in an old people’s home. He acts like it’s fine but I do not believe him.

Gerrard59:
Interesting read. Let's look at each deeply.



Agreed. We are on the same page here. Modern women wanted rights, which they got, so they deserved to pair with so-called modern men. Men should focus on themselves FIRST and wholeheartedly before any woman. Woe betides a man who strives to offer the best in life to a social media justice warrior woman.

Good luck to those men.



While it is true that Nigeria has never been rosy, Nigeria's economy got more worse when the majority of Nigerians campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. The data is there. Buhari was, has always been, and would always be incompetent. Unemployment rates soared while insecurity challenges, especially the kidnapping and brutal slaughtering of farmers, Christian worshippers in the north and travellers, ballooned. This led to a miniature refugee crisis of Nigerians in Nigeria.



Sure. This theory looks tenable. David Hundeyin has mooted the same. But you cannot fully blame the West, as they cannot work alone without state actors, who I will describe as Nigerian elites across all levels. While other elites ensure their countries work for them (so they live within their homelands), ours pilfer state resources and park them abroad. Abi na the West tell Yahaya Bello to pay almost a million dollars as tuition fees at the American International School Abuja?

On the other hand, I do agree with you that the West has marketed itself so well to citizens in the developing world, especially poorer ones.



I do somewhat agree that the country has been demarketed to an extent, but the stats show that things aren't working as fine or as they should. For instance, if the country had a similar GDP growth rate as in 2012, most people would not japa. In fact, that period witnessed droves of Nigerians returning from the abroad, especially the UK and environs. Some of the reigning entertainers returned during that period.

As for taking advantage of qualified citizens from developing countries, it makes sense to the host country.

P.S. No Nigerian CFA holder would be a janitor in the abroad sha. But I get your point.



First thing, ALL Nigerian elites have second passports, especially of countries in the West. So, if middle-class Nigerians aspire to get the same, I don't see anything wrong with it. This brings to my earlier point that some of the wives of most successful men cajole or coax their husbands in supporting them to birth children in jus soil countries so that the children possess a different nationality, which is superior regarding global migration. In other words, having more options. Human needs are insatiable. Humans would always aspire for more. This is something wives of oil companies' staff (permanent staff) and C-suite staff did during the heydays of high oil prices. Again, every Nigerian elite or upper-middle-class person has another passport, stronger, other than the Nigerian one.

Middle class Nigerians are simply copying what those above them do. No more do I say, it is now we will do as you do.. I have written about it here extensively: https://www.nairaland.com/7482300/importance-acquiring-second-passport-young#119276976



First, Nigeria is just a mere geographical expression - Awolowo. The phrase "patriotic Nigerian" is an oxymoron. It does not exist. Nigerians pledge allegiance to their ethnic groups. Also, it is perfectly fine for some ethnic groups to have grievances against Nigeria. Nigeria's history is replete with ill-actions against some ethnic groups.



That is a brash term to label people who want to better their lives. One, not everyone can be a high academic achiever. In fact, the surest route to leave Nigeria is via studies, and the highest chances of being sponsored as a scholar are for those who excel academically. Two, people have different goals in life. Three, some persons have lost capital and the best way to recoup is by going abroad to earn foreign income. Nothing wrong with this aspiration. People have the right to better their lives. If the opportunities are limited due to anaemic growth or too much population, and they believe by going outside they will get those opportunities, let them do so. Four, some want to live quiet lives in safe places. Nigeria has gotten unsafe over the past few years. The data is out there to see. Again, almost every Nigerian elite once worked abroad. The link I mentioned is replete with names of now elite Nigerians who worked abroad. Are we saying they were losers? Even their children are based abroad. So, why is it wrong for middle-class Nigerians to do the same?

Sure, this is a Nigerian forum, but Nigerians aren't the only ones emigrating. Indians and Chinese are notorious for emigrating. Chinese do so because of the stiff competition due to a high population. For Indians, I don't know. However, I have read a study which showed that over 90% of top academic achievers in the Indian versions of WASSCE, JAMB and university CGPA relocated and now live outside India. The majority live in the US and to an extent UK. Are top graduates from elite IITs losers as well?



Sure, this one exists.



You make it seem as if the majority who emigrated within the past few years did so illegally. The thing is: migration is human. Humans would always migrate. As I write, there are droves of British doctors (majority white) who are leaving the UK to go work in Australia. In fact, recruiters from Australia organise recruitment shows at hospitals in the UK to lure them. Humans would always migrate. Additionally, there are many young Brits who move to the Gulf States to work and live. In Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal, it is a long-standing tradition for both high and low academic achievers to move to Germany, Austria and Switzerland in search of jobs. There is something you have to understand here: humans WILL always pursue their economic interests over their rights.

If not for growing immigration controls and inventions such as visas and passports, migration would have skyrocketed beyond what it is.

Intelligent submission but i beg to disagree. All issues highlighted have been in existence from the dawn of time. The media fuel only makes it seem worse. The fact that an issue is talked about more does not actually make it worse.

For instance, globally, the murder rate is at an all time low. I’m sure anyone would wonder how this is possible given that stories of murder abound every day? It’s all the media gimmick.

The handlers of society struck gold when media was discovered.

The only part i concede is where I referred to some as loosers. No one is actually a looser and i take that back . I only came at them as viciously as they also pursue their agenda but not that i believe anyone is inherently a looser.

I also resist the idea that there’s no such thing as a patriotic Nigerian. Yes we are what you may term a geographical expression but we’ve lived together for soo long. Many have died for the country in regions that are not even theirs. The average soldier fighting in the north is not even from there. Stella Adadevo laid her life to prevent the spread of ebola in lagos and she’s not even a yoruba woman. Other examples abound.

Iamblessed85:
I’ve never seen a successful woman earning millions in Nigeria migrate to take on blue collar jobs in a bid to “secure the children’s future” whereas this is common with men?

Why is it that when the woman is the bread winner, she stays but when the man is the bread winner, all of a sudden the children’s future are nolonger secure in Nigeria and the man has to sacrifice to take on demeaning jobs abroad all in the name of Japa?

Since you don't have a strata of data, let me help you with one. The banking industry is the one with the most "successful" working class women in Nigeria. Now taking UK as a sample space, this post is nullified because Its evident they've been the highest movers to the UK from that industry.

If you see a "successful" woman who has not migrated as you claim, then I can guarantee it's because of her husband. Majority of families in Nigeria, the husband is the breadwinner, so this isn't an argument in the first place

Iamblessed85:


Personalize this assertion to your immediate circle please. I see lots of successful women working with blue chip companies around me

u are seeing harlots that used their kpekus to carve way for themselves

Gerrard59:

Sorry, but that cannot be true. Legally or illegally. In fact, it is recently we have more single and married women relocating by themselves. Before now, men emigrate more than women. It is a global phenomenon.

They actually do. There was a time Canada released figures on new immigrants from Nigeria. Women were much more than men and that was in the single category.

Iamblessed85:
I’ve never seen a successful woman earning millions in Nigeria migrate to take on blue collar jobs in a bid to “secure the children’s future” whereas this is common with men?

Why is it that when the woman is the bread winner, she stays but when the man is the bread winner, all of a sudden the children’s future are nolonger secure in Nigeria and the man has to sacrifice to take on demeaning jobs abroad all in the name of Japa?

Nigerians that are wealthy only go abroad for holidays or business,Nigeria sweet if you get money,it is poor people that japa,if you are making #10m tax free every month will you japa?

okoroemeka:
Nigerians that are wealthy only go abroad for holidays or business,Nigeria sweet if you get money,it is poor people that japa,if you are making #10m tax free every month will you japa?

You have good point, I don't really fancy living in the west for a long time also. Just need to make some cash and have exposure, No place like home no matter how we try to fake or paint it.

Japa is good for someone wey dey try find his feet. But persin wey don blow, wetin he dey find again. Just look at most of Nigerian footballers. After all the guys don make bastard money for Europe, they come back home to settle down.

Naa persin wey dey do cleaner or gateman go stay for Western countries for 10 to 20 years without coming home and still be prideful about it.

The real ballers just dey go up and down.

abba190:
how many successful women do we have in Nigeria you dumbass? is very hard or near impossible for a woman to hustle from nothing to something in this country, the few successful women we have in Nigeria are the daughters of rich men or politicias or pretty ladies that used the thing in between their legs. so they dont have any business with japa.

So you think there are no women in Nigeria who got to the pinnacle of their career though personal effort and hard work?

No wonder why you have been busy begging for 1K all over Nairaland

Kobicove:


So you think there are no women in Nigeria who got to the pinnacle of their career though personal effort and hard work?

No wonder why you have been busy begging for 1K all over Nairaland

thats why i said there are none. because if there is a way possible to make it legitly in this country i would have find it by now. if u see a rich woman in Nigeria its either she inherit it from parents or she is a harlot for polithiefcians and rich men.