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Who Are The Ikwerres ? by leviaka: 2:29am On Jul 07, 2024 |
@leviaka A Social Commentator This Writeup will come in 3 parts PART ONE I will Start by Asking the Ikwerre royalty with all due respect to tell us their History without prejudice, but with facts, and concrete Evidence to corroborate WHO THEY TRULY ARE and also I want ikwerres in this Forum to contribute to some of the issues I will raise. If the royalties in ikwerre land can Swear with their gods or GOD or make an advert in the newspapers or in any social media, of their true identity, maybe it will put to rest this saga of who they truly are. I say this because most royalties are the custodian of their cultures, traditions, histories, the British monarchy is almost a thousand years old, they have records of all their kings from willam the conqueror in 1066a.d to King Charles 2024 presently. Likewise the bini kingdom has records of their empire with proves. This Assertion that they are from BINI,or are EDO in origin can confuse any sane man, because I have not seen anyl link or connection between the binis or ikwerres , because I lived in Benin city for 4years during my university undergraduate years and I grew up in port harcourt in my early years as a child because my mother is from river state, she is kalabari precisely. Their maybe some links which am ignorant of, please I want to be educated on this subject, am not here to insult the sensibilities of any tribe, I just want to know history, am really curious about this, but an oath by these royalties in ikwerre land before any explanation, will go a long way in solving these issue.once and for all. Let evidence be given with facts. QUESTIONS 1). When the binis speak do the ikwerres understand. 2). Has their been any Archeological find that connect them with bini people? 3). What was the former name of port harcourt 4).let them explain the migratory pattern of their ancestors from bini to their present location.? 4) Did they meet any body when they arrived ? 5) Is their any word in ikwerre similar to bini language ? 6) let them show us any relics or artifacts in their palaces similar to that of the binis ? 7) When they settled in their present location, did they have OBA , or did the Igbo people force them to bear EZE ![]() 9) why did they not give their villages bini names 10) Has any oba of bini corroborated their stories Please let this questions be answered without mischief, let the ikwerres tell the whole world about their identity As an Igbo man born after the civil war, I will appreciate it if the identity of the ikwerres are put to rest, let them choose whom they want to be, but let it be convincing, Me personally don’t really care whom they want to be, what I really want to know is their origin but with FACTS GOD BLESS THE IKWERRES. GOD BLESS THE IGBOS . GOD BLESS NIGERIA , 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Thormentor: 2:38am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Oba Said this imagine trying to be people and they're telling you hey You're not one of us ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Thormentor: 2:39am On Jul 07, 2024 |
i love this our ikwere brother he said THE PARAMETERS THAT PROVES OUR IGBO ANCESTRY AS IKWERRE PEOPLE Whenever we tell this BENIN and Ijaw chauvinist that we the Ikwerre people are Igbos because we speak IGBO, bear Igbo names and possesses Igbo character as evidence of our resemblance, they will tell you that "Language is not the only parameters to knowing a person's origin" Now like they claimed, if you remove language which is not a parameter or criteria for a people's ancestry, the only variables left to determine or ascertain origin of a people is: 1. SPIRITUALITY 2. TRADITION and 3. CUSTOMS. All the deities you see in Benin. Ogun, Osun, Sango, Orunmila, Esu, Ososomaye, Olokun, Ayelala etc, are all Yoruba men or Orisha. In case you don't understand me, What I am saying here is that, the above mentioned names of Benin gods were actually humans from Yoruba land who once lived on earth but were given the status of a god which they (benin's) worship till date. Isn't that funny? Ok, since language is not the parameters to justify a person's origin but Spirituality, Traditions and custom, then we are right to address the Benin people as Yoruba's considering the fact that all their Oba's up to date are children of Oranmiyan, the son of Oduduwa who hails from Oyo. Same man named the people ILE-IBINU meaning: children of vexation. Judging from the parameters for origin, The Ikwerre's possesses all Igbos attributes. Our dialect is IGBO Our names are Igboid The names of our gods are Amadioha, arusi. The names of our supreme deity is CHINEKE, CHUKWU OKIKE. We all practice the OFO/OWHOR system of justice and power. Unlike the Benin women who only tie one wrapper, the Ikwerre women tie two wrappers like their South East relatives, we practice the Igbo four (4) market days namely: EKE ORIE AFO NKWOR, We observe the Omennali/Umanala traditional age grade systems, our masquerades are Ekpo/Mmanwu/ Agaba. We eat same food. Unlike the benin's who have tribal marks on their faces, the Ikwerre's do not have tribal marks. Our progenitors bear Igbo names. Where exactly is the Benin/Ikwerre affinity? No Ikwerre traditional stool have the eben and ada Sceptre system of the Benin people. What is wrong with this expansionist? Let this be as a warning, keep Ikwerre out of your Benin falsehoods, we're Igbos with Ikwerre identity. My name is CHIMENU AMADI an Igbo man from Ikwerre. #IgbosMustUnite TheTribes IGBO EZUE TV 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Thormentor: 2:50am On Jul 07, 2024 |
This is what Ikwerre chiefs said. Documented by Dr. Percy Amaury Talbot. There were all Igbos. It’s not my word it was according to the Ikwere chief. 2 Likes
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Thormentor: 2:55am On Jul 07, 2024 |
leviaka: Benin men migrated with no wives and lost all thier language ,tradition, religion and everything that makes them Benin is left not a single trace and they're now identify as ikwere which is an Igbo word ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Whalis: 4:31am On Jul 07, 2024 |
When things are argued beyond doubt humans use science to decipher complex issues. Below is the findings of Igbo lecturers in Uniport. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2014/123925 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by ResidentSnitch(f): 5:39am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Whether they are from Bini or Igbo, I don't bloody care. Infact, Igbos should simply ignore them. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Paraman: 6:18am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Attache by force people ![]() Ikwerre no b Igbo 3 Likes
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by franchasofficia: 7:59am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Remman:Laughable lolz For your information, Biafran soldiers also invaded communities in Southeast and killed elderly men who resisted their effort to carry the boys above 18yrs to join the war in favor of Biafra. It is called conscription of civilians for war. Every nation, tribe or race does this when they face a daring war that they lack soldiers to prosecute or combat. Russia and Ukraine are doing it today. Israel may start to do same with time. It's just that your elders told you people disjointed story. One of my uncles was forced to the war front, his father was killed by Biafran soldiers because he tried to resist them from taking his son. This happened in all communities in Southeast, Biafran soldiers even invaded some communities to get food, but we Southeast Igbos understand why they did some of those barbaric things and didn't deny our Igbo identity because of that war. My father flew Enugu back to our own hometown. Some Imo people flew Onitsha, Abia people flee Onitsha and Enugu back to Abia. People flee Portharcourt to today Southeast because they feel safer there and the war was raging more from Portharcourt, Enugu, Onitsha sides. So it was natural for Igbos to flee to more inner Igbo communities for safety. I know that Ikwerre people started this their Igbo identity denial after the civil war and for crude oil politics, we understand but we won't stop telling you lost brothers that you are wrong, yes you have the right to be angry and to decide to be on your own, but stop telling senseless lies that you are from Bini kingdom when the Oba of Bini himself said no you Ikwerre people are Igbos. You can decide to be on your own for politics and for crude oil wealth, no wahala, but stop lying about your ancestry. Crude oil era will definitely expire like coal era, but don't take because of that and deny who you are. Natural gas that is the next big thing is headquartered in Southeast, in few decades from now, you Ikwerres might be struggling to reunite with your Southeast Igbo brothers and by then, you will be reminded of your foolishness of today, so you guys should try and apply wisdom, stop making it hatred matter, stay on your own peacefully without using your denial of being Igbo to rubbish the Southeast Igbos, that is what we are trying to correct not that we are forcing you Ikwerres to join us in Southeast please. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by franchasofficia: 8:07am On Jul 07, 2024 |
NyamiriSlayer:Try and get sense. Igbos have never forced Ikwerre people to join Igbos in Southeast but they are always using their denial of their Igbo blood to rubbish Igbos politically for reasons I don't know and we will continue to correct them. Lagos people denied being part of Southwest and were never part of Southwest before but you Yorubas kept forcing yourself on them and later Lagos was merged into Southwest. But to you, that one is normal. Till today Lagos indigenes are not happy how you Yorubas from outside Lagos have been pushing them aside politically and forcing yourselves on Lagos state, but when they talk, you use your majority influence to shut them up, and to you it is okay but Igbos correcting Ikwerre people who started denying their Igboness after the civil war is wrong and an attache by force. Na Ogun and Sango go reward all of una with your hypocrisy and double faced nature lolz 3 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Ttipsy(f): 8:31am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Ikwerre again |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Paraman: 8:46am On Jul 07, 2024 |
leviaka:You go explain tire ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Sergio108: 8:51am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Whalis: You go argue tire ![]() Waste time tire. Still it will always pop up everyday. It's you against thousands. Better go and invite some other Ikwere brothers here ![]() As for me.....I fùcking care not about Ikwere lowlives.....But I enjoy the dragging you're receiving here ![]() |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Sergio108: 8:53am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Paraman: Yolobas....una own case is just the worst ![]() Illorin is very very gone and you're putting mouth in Ikwere matter? How shameless can some of you be? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Paraman: 9:34am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Sergio108:Ikwerre no b Igbo 1 Like
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Sergio108: 9:38am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Paraman: Illorin is far gone. Both in religion and culture ![]() ![]() Ikwere will one day grow up |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Paraman: 9:40am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Sergio108:Ikwerre no b Igbo 1 Like
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Sergio108: 9:50am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Paraman: Illorin can never be Yoruba again |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by chrisxxx(m): 9:55am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Remman:It is quite unfortunate that Nigerians are not seeing to this. The Ikwerres have lived with the Kalabaris, Okrikans, Ogonis and others. These people know who the Igbos are and who ikwerres are. They don't know them as Owerri man or Umuahia man. Once you mention you come from any of these mentioned places they call them Igbo. They know the boundary between them and the Ikwerres. Ikwerres joined with other minorities to fight for a separate state from the old east. In 1963 ikwerre formed Ogbakor Ikwerre. This was before the civil war. In 1965 ikwerres had a declaration of self realisation that they are neither Ijaw, Ogoni nor Igbos but Ikwerres. It is today known as Rumuomasi Declaration. It is online. If my language sounds similar with yours must I be you? Have you not reasoned you might be me? At best will it not be reasonable to say we are brothers? Will there not be some similarities between children of Esau and Jacob? Igbos have traveled all over the world and have come across people who speak similar language but different people. This could be found among the Ukraine and Poland. Also with Sweden and Denmark similarly with Finland and Norway. You can also see this with Malaysia and Indonesia. Spain and Portugal. In Nigeria here it is found even among the Yoruba and Itsekiri. Urhobo and Isoko. Igbos see these people as different people but won't accept the same phenomenon in their backyard. They want to be left alone but won't leave others alone. Americans left Britain, today America is more populated and powerful than Britain. If it weren't documented who would have believed that today considering the size of the UK and America? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Thormentor: 10:04am On Jul 07, 2024 |
chrisxxx: Ikwere are Igbos full stop even ikwere people are saying it forget nonsense politics This is what an ikwere man said " THE PARAMETERS THAT PROVES OUR IGBO ANCESTRY AS IKWERRE PEOPLE Whenever we tell this BENIN and Ijaw chauvinist that we the Ikwerre people are Igbos because we speak IGBO, bear Igbo names and possesses Igbo character as evidence of our resemblance, they will tell you that "Language is not the only parameters to knowing a person's origin" Now like they claimed, if you remove language which is not a parameter or criteria for a people's ancestry, the only variables left to determine or ascertain origin of a people is: 1. SPIRITUALITY 2. TRADITION and 3. CUSTOMS. All the deities you see in Benin. Ogun, Osun, Sango, Orunmila, Esu, Ososomaye, Olokun, Ayelala etc, are all Yoruba men or Orisha. In case you don't understand me, What I am saying here is that, the above mentioned names of Benin gods were actually humans from Yoruba land who once lived on earth but were given the status of a god which they (benin's) worship till date. Isn't that funny? Ok, since language is not the parameters to justify a person's origin but Spirituality, Traditions and custom, then we are right to address the Benin people as Yoruba's considering the fact that all their Oba's up to date are children of Oranmiyan, the son of Oduduwa who hails from Oyo. Same man named the people ILE-IBINU meaning: children of vexation. Judging from the parameters for origin, The Ikwerre's possesses all Igbos attributes. Our dialect is IGBO Our names are Igboid The names of our gods are Amadioha, arusi. The names of our supreme deity is CHINEKE, CHUKWU OKIKE. We all practice the OFO/OWHOR system of justice and power. Unlike the Benin women who only tie one wrapper, the Ikwerre women tie two wrappers like their South East relatives, we practice the Igbo four (4) market days namely: EKE ORIE AFO NKWOR, We observe the Omennali/Umanala traditional age grade systems, our masquerades are Ekpo/Mmanwu/ Agaba. We eat same food. Unlike the benin's who have tribal marks on their faces, the Ikwerre's do not have tribal marks. Our progenitors bear Igbo names. Where exactly is the Benin/Ikwerre affinity? No Ikwerre traditional stool have the eben and ada Sceptre system of the Benin people. What is wrong with this expansionist? Let this be as a warning, keep Ikwerre out of your Benin falsehoods, we're Igbos with Ikwerre identity. " Americans never deny where they came from you're a yarriibba we know una well well 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by yoruboid: 10:08am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Ikwerre Man: I’m not Igbo Ibo Man: You’re Igbo Is it by force? Have Yorubas claimed that Itshekiris are Yoruba by force? Let the Ikwerres decide themselves 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by chrisxxx(m): 10:12am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Thormentor:You are listening to Chimenu someone the mother an Igbo woman had at home and took to ikwerre when she came to marry an ikwerre man? Respect . Igbo is Ikwerre. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by AcadaWriter: 10:12am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Attache by force people Ikwerre no b Nigerian ... Hello, need help with your academic papers? Contact us. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by PHIPEX(m): 10:13am On Jul 07, 2024 |
franchasofficia:Same happened in my village, young people were arrested some even killed for avoiding conscription into the army during the war. Maybe my village should also.publish their names and claim we are no more Igbos ![]() I believe some.of the confused few from Ikwerre were victims of oil and civil war politics. Rivers was carved out of the Old Eastern Region. Super stories and heavy propaganda machine were deployed to reduce the power of the Eastern Region. Maybe regions of Ukrain and even Russia should.pull out of their respected countries because of the ongoing conscriptions into their respective armies 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by PHIPEX(m): 10:18am On Jul 07, 2024 |
yoruboid:Because Igbos can't leave an inch of their territory behind like Ilorin. Only cowards do so 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by Paraman: 10:59am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Sergio108:Ikwerre no b igbo 1 Like
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Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by yoruboid: 11:01am On Jul 07, 2024 |
Sergio108: Ask an Ilorin man if he’s Yoruba or not and then ask an Ikwerre man if he’s Igbo or not Yorubas aren’t the ones claiming Ilorin, Ilorin are the ones insisting they are Yorubas but Ikwerres keep saying they are not Igbos 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by yoruboid: 11:02am On Jul 07, 2024 |
PHIPEX: Oya go and chase the Ikwerres and take over the land m Isn’t that why IPOB was set up? The SE is the most unsafe region in Nigeria and you want to turn Ikwerre land to another kidnapping and battle field 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ikwerres ? by PHIPEX(m): 11:46am On Jul 07, 2024 |
yoruboid:This kind of unsafe right?
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