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Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Sharpsharp00123: 4:24pm On Jul 07
DIVINEEVIDENCE:



You know more than Ojukwu who was trained in conventional warfare and fought an active campaign?

The secessionists already proclaimed Biafra a sovereign state, complete with a map and a capital.

In your little mind, they should simply sit their asses down and wait for federal forces to attack the territory before they respond?
There should be no advance; only defense, occupation and retreat?

Stop displaying your crass ignorance online.

At the bolded, think of all the allies who offered assistance to the federal government in arms, mercenaries, intelligence, tactics and propaganda.
Think of the fact that the war dragged for a little longer than three years and you'll understand the capacity and motivation of both sides.

Sit down with your grandfather and ask him questions.
Everything is possible in war.
so your Biafra doesn’t have allies right?

Go n read history n get d fact that both parties got foreign aids

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Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Brenbentondiaz: 4:37pm On Jul 07
rinzaugustine:
story.. he should have been a coward and fold his hands while his people are being killed in north without provocation over coup military officers no igbo person elected ? Typical Agbado coward mindset..Ojukwu wasn’t going to ever be that because cowards die a thousand times before their death. Instead of fear fear life of paranoia and hiding under internet it’s best to take a rope and hang yourself to die honorably because a life of living when your inner man is dead due to fear is not worth living

Ah yeah! Brave ojukwu. That brave igbo man that ran to Ivory Coast dressed like hajia. Very brave indeed.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by tete7000(m): 4:45pm On Jul 07
Interesting
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by franchasofficia: 4:45pm On Jul 07
Shikena:
Big question indeed, why were they coming towards Lagos? Never got a convincing answer for years.

First coup happened in Lagos/Kaduna/Ibadan/Enugu/Benin in January 1966, Northerners claimed it was Igbo coup and revenged with a counter coup that killed the Igbo born head of state Ironsi. Instead of them to stop the madness within the military cycle, Northerners took it beyond military to start killing Igbo civilians living peacefully in the North.


Ojukwu was the Eastern Region's Military Governor at that time. He appealed to Gowon the then new head of state to do something and stop the massacre of Igbos by Northern soldiers and civilians, Gowon did nothing. Ojukwu warned that if such continues that he would have no other option but to defend his people by declaring Eastern Nigeria an independent country to protect Old Eastern Nigeria people. Gowon did nothing, Ojukwu consulted with traditional rulers, students, market women leaders, traders, artisans, etc and they told him to declare Old Eastern Nigeria a separate country from Nigeria known as Biafra. Ojukwu did so in Nsukka Enugu state the capital of Old Eastern Nigeria then.


Gowon wanted to let Biafra go, but British government refused because British Petroleum was the one drilling the crude oil that was recently discovered in Old Eastern Nigeria (Bayelsa and Rivers then), so Britain told Gowon to use force to return Biafra back to Nigeria, so Gowon declared a Police action to bring back Biafra to Nigeria. He did this announcement in Lagos the then capital of Nigeria.


That was how Nigerian government backed by British government, Egypt, etc mobilized Nigerian soldiers to forcefully return Biafra to Nigeria and the war broke out.


During war, the easiest way to win the war and get your enemy to surrender is to capture their capital. So Ojukwu knowing Biafra wasn't so prepared for a long war wanted the war to end fast, so he mobilized most of the elite Biafra soldiers to head to Lagos. Col. Banjo and other Igbo officers led that mission.


They matched on to Lagos and Gowon was already preparing to flee Lagos to Kaduna before Banjo halted their advancement around Ore for days. There have been several accusations and reasons why Banjo and other Igbo officers decided to halt the Biafra soldiers advancement to Lagos.


First, they said Banjo and other Igbo officers like Ifeajuna believed the war was going to be over soon, so they wanted to topple Ojukwu and take over, so they stopped advancing to Lagos while plotting how to take out Ojukwu.


Another version said Banjo got some offer from Nigerian side who had been worried he joined Biafra side, and they made them offer which he and Ifeajuna were considering and halted Biafra soldiers advancement before Ojukwu mobilized and got them arrested and executed for attempting to topple his government. This internal crises gave Nigerian side time to regroup and overwhelmed the Biafra soldiers at Ore and pushed them back to Benin then to Agbor then to Asaba from where they withdrew to Onitsha blowing up Niger bridge which made Muritala to carry out the mass massacre of Igbos in Asaba even when they surrendered and welcomed Nigerian soldiers with different cultural dance.



I hope you now understand why they were matching to Lagos?


In war you don't stay in your territory hoping your enemy respects it, you attack and even take over your enemy territories you can take over to force them to surrender and sue for peace.



That's why they said the best form of defense is attack

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Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by ceejay80s(m): 5:03pm On Jul 07
CrushObituaries:
The war should have been avoided if Ojukwu wasn't stupid and bloodthirsty, what is Biafra soldiers doing in Ore, Midwestern region if they wanted biafra
U are a vagabond
Were u born then?
Everybody wan claim say e dey wen civil war began in Nigeria
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by TUTU147: 5:21pm On Jul 07
CrushObituaries:
The war should have been avoided if Ojukwu wasn't stupid and bloodthirsty, what is Biafra soldiers doing in Ore, Midwestern region if they wanted biafra
That is one of the mistakes of ojukkwu

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Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Akhee: 5:23pm On Jul 07
How did he became his Boss na
naptu2:






Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by hamzeiy: 5:25pm On Jul 07
OkukoIgbo:


If prophet Mohammed wasn't a mad pig, we won't have aNything to do with worthless islam.
..
It is you and your generation that are pigs..
You would live a pig and die uselessly like a pig and burn in hell with your face and stomach lookig like that of a pig
...this will come to pass unless you repent....
But I hope you don't.....useless pig , father of piglets ,son of a shit eating pig born of a pig....
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Shikena(m): 5:38pm On Jul 07
franchasofficia:

During war, the easiest way to win the war and get your enemy to surrender is to capture their capital.


I hope you now understand why they were matching to Lagos?


In war you don't stay in your territory hoping your enemy respects it, you attack and even take over your enemy territories you can take over to force them to surrender and sue for peace.

That's why they said the best form of defense is attack

You mentioned valid strengths of not staying within your territory (which Ojukwu was eventually forced to do by the ensuing circumstances) but you failed to address the weaknesses and disadvantages which eventually played out.

Moving into enemy territory can stretch your forces thin, making them vulnerable to counterattacks and logistical challenges. This was evident in the Biafran advance towards Lagos, which left other flanks exposed. Enugu was attacked and access via Calabar was carved and exposed basic underlying but highly efficient war tactics.

Fighting in territory outside your stronghold can pose significant challenges, including difficulties in navigation, supply chain management, command chain conflicts, and local resistance.

Also, an offensive strategy can sometimes lead to a prolonged conflict if the enemy is resilient and capable of regrouping and launching counteroffensives.

Historical examples include the German Blitzkrieg strategy during World War 2 which was initially successful due to its rapid and aggressive nature, but eventually led to overextension and logistical failures, particularly on the Eastern Front.

Also, during the Vietnam war, the U.S. adopted an aggressive strategy, but faced significant challenges due to unfamiliar terrain and resilient local forces, leading to a prolonged and costly conflict.

Yes, an offensive strategy of attacking the capital city can offer significant advantages by disrupting the opponents and potentially forcing a quicker resolution, it also carries substantial risks such as overextension, logistical challenges, and the potential for prolonged conflict. These are critical factors that must be carefully analyzed and managed as part of a broad strategy. A balanced approach that combines offensive actions with strong defensive measures and strategic planning is often more effective.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Nicenixon: 5:45pm On Jul 07
CrushObituaries:
The war should have been avoided if Ojukwu wasn't stupid and bloodthirsty, what is Biafra soldiers doing in Ore, Midwestern region if they wanted biafra
This is exactly my question
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Fujiyama: 5:45pm On Jul 07
grin

Very amusing excerpts.

I must get this book. I haven't read a good book in a long time and this may just change that.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by franchasofficia: 5:48pm On Jul 07
Shikena:


You mentioned valid strengths of not staying within your territory (which Ojukwu was eventually forced to do by the ensuing circumstances) but you failed to address the weaknesses and disadvantages which eventually played out.

Moving into enemy territory can stretch your forces thin, making them vulnerable to counterattacks and logistical challenges. This was evident in the Biafran advance towards Lagos, which left other flanks exposed. Enugu was attacked and access via Calabar was carved and exposed basic underlying but highly efficient war tactics.

Fighting in territory outside your stronghold can pose significant challenges, including difficulties in navigation, supply chain management, command chain conflicts, and local resistance.

Also, an offensive strategy can sometimes lead to a prolonged conflict if the enemy is resilient and capable of regrouping and launching counteroffensives.

Historical examples include the German Blitzkrieg strategy during World War 2 which was initially successful due to its rapid and aggressive nature, but eventually led to overextension and logistical failures, particularly on the Eastern Front.

Also, during the Vietnam war, the U.S. adopted an aggressive strategy, but faced significant challenges due to unfamiliar terrain and resilient local forces, leading to a prolonged and costly conflict.

Yes, an offensive strategy of attacking the capital city can offer significant advantages by disrupting the opponents and potentially forcing a quicker resolution, it also carries substantial risks such as overextension, logistical challenges, and the potential for prolonged conflict. These are critical factors that must be carefully analyzed and managed as part of a broad strategy. A balanced approach that combines offensive actions with strong defensive measures and strategic planning is often more effective.
You are very correct, but this logic only applies to an existing country with a formal military before the outbreak of war.


Remember everything about Biafra was adhoc.


Biafra was never a country until 1967 after Ojukwu declared Old Eastern Nigeria an independent country and hurriedly started putting together an emergency military to defend the newly formed nation from aggression from Nigeria and her foreign allies.


So he was just looking for a short cut to end the war fast and get Nigeria to let Biafra go or come to negotiation table.


By the way my late uncle was among Ojukwu's cabinet and confidant.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by CrushObituaries: 6:01pm On Jul 07
ceejay80s:
U are a vagabond Were u born then? Everybody wan claim say e dey wen civil war began in Nigeria




Your mother is a vagabond
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Dalohad: 6:34pm On Jul 07
franchasofficia:
You are very correct, but this logic only applies to an existing country with a formal military before the outbreak of war.


Remember everything about Biafra was adhoc.


Biafra was never a country until 1967 after Ojukwu declared Old Eastern Nigeria an independent country and hurriedly started putting together an emergency military to defend the newly formed nation from aggression from Nigeria and her foreign allies.


So he was just looking for a short cut to end the war fast and get Nigeria to let Biafra go or come to negotiation table.


By the way my late uncle was among Ojukwu's cabinet and confidant.

Another question you should have ask those blaming Ojukwu for ordering advancement to Lagos- Who fired the first shot of the war at Garkem?
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Theoarhics: 6:42pm On Jul 07
This man should a hundred years old now
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by naptu2: 6:44pm On Jul 07
Theoarhics:
This man should a hundred years old now

His 88th birthday was last month.

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Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by rinzaugustine: 6:45pm On Jul 07
Sharpsharp00123:
so they were killing igbos without provocation?

I know in d future u igbos will just say nnamdiot Kanu was arrested without doing anything?

U igbos think u are wise, u killed other peoples leaders n leg yours

U will forever pay for that madness
what did kanu do? Maybe agitation is name a crime under the law of your tribe or if not take that your evidence to court since they have been looking for one and also do same for Sunday Igboho …tribal culturally anti progress hypocrites …same way your people will will forever pay as you are paying today for awolowo foolishness
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by PHIPEX(m): 7:12pm On Jul 07
Shikena:
Big question indeed, why were they coming towards Lagos? Never got a convincing answer for years.

Because Lagos was the capital and Gowon was living in Lagos. Every civil war in every country revolves around the capital city. If you conquer the capital, you win the war.

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Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Tochi360: 7:56pm On Jul 07
Richtaiwo:

Somehow, tribalism has to find its way into it. Amusingly, if this is returned in same coin, you and your ilk will start screaming seun up and down that he allows igbos to be persecuted on his site.

You for one follow for the shameless tribalist wey dey suppose cancel for this forum.

You guys will never know how daft y'all sound when you do all dis una dry boring mumu tribal jabs.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by LtChisom: 8:56pm On Jul 07
hamzeiy:
..
It is you and your generation that are pigs..
You would live a pig and die uselessly like a pig and burn in hell with your face and stomach lookig like that of a pig
...this will come to pass unless you repent....
But I hope you don't.....useless pig , father of piglets ,son of a shit eating pig born of a pig....

But it never stopped the paedophilia nymphomaniac rapist fake prophet of medina that was poisoned with ordinary rat poison by a common woman, his shallow grave was exhumed By hungry medina pigs that ate the petrifying carcass of your mohammed, they shit him out as manure for date palms in medina, your allah is a rabid dog.

Now, cry like never before, clueless retards like their worthless prophet.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Realtruth2023: 9:08pm On Jul 07
CrushObituaries:
The war should have been avoided if Ojukwu wasn't stupid and bloodthirsty, what is Biafra soldiers doing in Ore, Midwestern region if they wanted biafra

Oga shut up abeg this is about Okogie and not about Biafra war, and you forgot that it was a Yoruba man that was the leader of the Biafran forces at Ore
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Realtruth2023: 9:09pm On Jul 07
Richtaiwo:

Somehow, tribalism has to find its way into it. Amusingly, if this is returned in same coin, you and your ilk will start screaming seun up and down that he allows igbos to be persecuted on his site.

How was this a tribal comment? And how did you link igbos into this? This mischief you guys play will one day backfire and you will see the trouble you have been looking for.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by ceejay80s(m): 9:17pm On Jul 07
[quote author=CrushObituaries post=130842367][/quote]
Fool
I know u don't have a mother
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Theoarhics: 9:17pm On Jul 07
naptu2:


His 88th birthday was last month.

That man has been old since I have known him for over 30 years now
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Dwightventures(m): 9:55pm On Jul 07
naptu2:
I used to gaze at him before he died (he was a hundred and something years old at the time). I couldn't believe that it was the same energetic man that had been confined to a wheel chair.

I think he was the oldest priest in Africa and probably oldest retired soldier in Nigeria at the time of his death.







Pictures

Photo 1) Anthony Cardinal Okogie (Catholic Archbishop of Lagos from 1973 till 2012).

Photo 2) Reverend Monsignor Colonel Ayodele Pedro-Martins.

Photo 3) Brigadier Benjamin Adekunle (the Black Scorpion)

Photo 4) From L-R General Godwin Alabi Isama, General Alani Akinrinade, Brigadier Benjamin Adekunle (Black Scorpion) Godwin Ally And Colonel Alimi Ogunkanmi DuringThe Civil War.

Photo 5) Anthony Cardinal Okogie

Photo 6) Col Pedro Martins being made a monsignor by Archbishop John Kwawo Aggrey (Archbishop of Lagos), while Reverend Father Anthony Okogie looks on.

Photo 7) Reverend Monsignor Pedro Ayodele Martins at over 100 years old.

Photo 8 ) Pedro Ayodele Martins in Cork, Ireland in the 1950s.

Photo 9) On 2 August 1936 Pedro Martins, as a young seminarian (facing camera), assisted Bishop Leo Hale Taylor at the laying of the foundation stone for St Patrick's Church in Asaba (now in the diocese of Issele-Uku, Nigeria). Included in the picture is the first Nigerian Catholic priest, Fr Paul Emechete as well as Fr Patrick J Kelly, later bishop of Benin City.

(photo: Society of African Missions)

Brilliant. Pls what is your identity outside nairaland? I don't know if you share stuff in other platforms too. This is a dishonourable platform, not where I go to meet serious people to learn from.

The ranks you ascribed to those officers were inappropriate. You could have just given their names. Adekunle was the GOC -- their overall superior. Even he was a Colonel then. Obviously his subordinates could not outrank him. They were all Lt. Cols at the time. Alabi-Isama made it to Brig which was not called a general during his career
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by CrushObituaries: 10:21pm On Jul 07
ceejay80s:

Fool
I know u don't have a mother



I expect you to say that , because you never meet your mother, she is roaming around onitsha market,

Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by highoctane: 4:44am On Jul 08
On which side of the war was Arch Okogie at? And others like him on both divide of the war.
Catholics killing Catholics, Anglicans killing Anglicans and so on and so forth

With one side of their mouth they praised the prince of peace,and on other side of their mouth they brandishes the sword of demons. That maimed Children, Old men and women, killed young men and women in their prime.
What a melancholic shame.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by AnyanwuSK: 7:59am On Jul 09
CrushObituaries:
The war should have been avoided if Ojukwu wasn't stupid and bloodthirsty, what is Biafra soldiers doing in Ore, Midwestern region if they wanted biafra


We are at the quarter of the 21st century.

Nobody relies on news manufacturered by Lagos-Ibadan media again except miscreants.

It was Gowon that rejected the peace agreement made on neutral ground(Aburi Accord)
Yours Ore made up story is not part of history.
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by Sharpsharp00123: 7:51pm On Jul 14
rinzaugustine:
what did kanu do? Maybe agitation is name a crime under the law of your tribe or if not take that your evidence to court since they have been looking for one and also do same for Sunday Igboho …tribal culturally anti progress hypocrites …same way your people will will forever pay as you are paying today for awolowo foolishness
so ordering his boys to kill security operatives is not a crime?
Re: Anthony Cardinal Okogie As A Nigerian Army Chaplain During The Civil War by rinzaugustine: 8:31pm On Jul 14
Sharpsharp00123:
so ordering his boys to kill security operatives is not a crime?
so if I order you online to go and kill for me now you will? Why not send your evidence of membership that made killers “ kanu boys” to DSS and courts? Why hide it?

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