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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 1:17pm On Jul 20
DatNiggaDaz:
How can Tinubu be a failure to you grin grin

How is turning the economy into the worst reality of renewed hopelessness within 1yr of a fraudulent certificate forger be a failure to you.

Despite all the indices of failures in every Segment of the economy both from the useless government released statistics, official, unofficial & the realities facing every Nigerian,
how can Tinubu be a failure to you cheesy grin

When you saw no failures in Buhari back to back for straight 8yrs defending him, how can you see the failures of a fraudulent certificate holder ? grin grin

Stay on emilokan stipend wortthless sh""".

You are standing on a rotten manhood. grin grin
If you are not a Shameless & helpless Thing, why else will you be whining that Bola Tinubu has not helped you better your life?

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 1:18pm On Jul 20
MasterJayJay:

Babablu unlimited. Obasanjo that won in southeast, ahead of Ojukwu.

Daniel Bwala said 'once you join APC, your brain stops working.' You are proving him right.
Please stop lying, what year did your father join APC?
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 4:29pm On Jul 20
ElSudani:


Read what you wrote again carefully and tell us how this would have prevented the effects of the subsidy removal.
I will advise you go back again and read and this time read it slowly and if the end you couldn't grasp the meaning, then I could be of help.
If you don't know that there are many sharp practice in the oil industry starting from the amount of oil drilled declared, crude oil refined and declared. Taming of diversion of oil refined (hope you're aware that ten cargoes may be declared and 6 of them will be diverted to neighbouring countries), you may not be aware. Are you also aware that there is is also inflation in lifting and landing costs. So many sharp practices done by the oil cartel against the country. When you're able to curtail these sharp practices, you have won the war to some extent.
Empowerment of those into modular refineries will ensure will have sufficient refined crude oil for consumption and as is well known in the school of demand and supply, the higher the supply, the lowest the price. That's why you see prices of goods that are now in high supply are now coming down. Examples are tomatoes, yam etc.
Revamping the refineries will also substantially reduced the burden.
I hope you've learnt a little?

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by ElSudani: 4:38pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

I will advise you go back again and read and this time read it slowly and if the end you couldn't grasp the meaning, then I could be of help.
If you don't know that there are many sharp practice in the oil industry starting from the amount of oil drilled declared, crude oil refined and declared. Taming of diversion of oil refined (hope you're aware that ten cargoes may be declared and 6 of them will be diverted to neighbouring countries), you may not be aware. Are you also aware that there is is also inflation in lifting and landing costs. So many sharp practices done by the oil cartel against the country. When you're able to curtail these sharp practices, you have won the war to some extent.
Empowerment of those into modular refineries will ensure will have sufficient refined crude oil for consumption and as is well known in the school of demand and supply, the higher the supply, the lowest the price. That's why you see prices of goods that are now in high supply are now coming down. Examples are tomatoes, yam etc.
Revamping the refineries will also substantially reduced the burden.
I hope you've learnt a little?

The directive by Tinubu's administration to stop oil theft is supposed to achieve what exactly?
Also, how will this prevent the immediate consequences of the subsidy removal even if you were able to stop oil theft first?
You are still not telling me what Obi promised to do to prevent the averse effects of the subsidy removal.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 5:17pm On Jul 20
Samtob90:

You are very polite and I am ready to engage you.
Firstly, I am not in anyway justifying the current sufferings our politicians have put us only if we can holistically and honestly deal with them all but not selective targets.
Secondly, there is global problems and we are being directly affected because we depend too much on importations. This is also owing to age long corruption and greed.
Thirdly, why it is true we can't justify existence of the taxes and revenue collected, Nigeria pay almost the lowest tax rates in the world. Except Eritrea and Nigeria, all other African countries pay minimum 15% as vat, the current exchange rate of 1560 was used to compare the minimum wage in selected countries,
Let them use same rate to determine the cost of fuel and every other things, you will know we still enjoy in a way.

We complain of all the policies before now, should we continue in same ways? Rewanda did not just get it right overnight.
I am not a fan of Tinubu because he should also muster the courage to reduce the cost of governance ranging from national assembly to his own too not that it is the only poor Nigeria that should endure additional hardship
This is what I hate hearing. Every successful government come and complained of her predecessor and Aimee times complained of foundational predecessors. To me, it makes no sense at all. You vie for an election because you think you can do it more better. Dwelling on the past failures makes me angry and uncomfortable. If during campaign you safely tell the electorates, I won't be able to do more than the person there now, I do believe electorates would have looked for an alternative.
No doubt we depend too much on importation but our problem is multifaceted and it was primary caused by policy somersault of the government. Let me give you a little scenario of what caused this hike in prices of goods and services. Mama P a garri seller went to market to buy foreign good and on getting there she discovered the good she was buying ₦2k is now ₦10k. On getting home, she has not look for alternate to argument the increase she incurred in the good she bought, she will now increase the price of her garri she's selling ₦3k to ₦7k. Now, papa K selling yam went to buy garri and discovered the price of garri has increased, he gets back home and increase his yam price from ₦2k to ₦5k and the circle continues. This is what caused this incessant hike in the prices of goods and services.
My brother, Nigerians are paying well in tax. The only problem we have is corruption. Someone like me , I am paying over ₦20k deductible from my salary monthly and if you add the total number within my grade level, you will discover the government is making millions on my grade level, lest the other grade levels. That's just for one organisation. Corruption has been the bane of our problem and not any other thing.
The reason people complain about government policy is because of the insincerity on the part of government. Government will say one thing but go and do another thing. You don't tell the citizens to endure but went buying tyres and rims for 3.7b. Go build VP house for ₦30b as if he doesn't have where he is living before. Go renovate National Assembly for ₦15b. Travelling to Ethiopia with ₦1b. An Ethiopia in Africa and so many frivolities that can make a man you told to endure to look at you that you're fooling him.
Government insincerity is what is causing people to complain of their policies.
Let the government be seen cutting cost and selfless in service and that will build the people's confidence in them.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Gajagojo: 5:31pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:
This is what I hate hearing. Every successful government come and complained of her predecessor and Aimee times complained of foundational predecessors. To me, it makes no sense at all. You vie for an election because you think you can do it more better. Dwelling on the past failures makes me angry and uncomfortable. If during campaign you safely tell the electorates, I won't be able to do more than the person there now, I do believe electorates would have looked for an alternative.
No doubt we depend too much on importation but our problem is multifaceted and it was primary caused by policy somersault of the government. Let me give you a little scenario of what caused this hike in prices of goods and services. Mama P a garri seller went to market to buy foreign good and on getting there she discovered the good she was buying ₦2k is now ₦10k. On getting home, she has not look for alternate to argument the increase she incurred in the good she bought, she will now increase the price of her garri she's selling ₦3k to ₦7k. Now, papa K selling yam went to buy garri and discovered the price of garri has increased, he gets back home and increase his yam price from ₦2k to ₦5k and the circle continues. This is what caused this incessant hike in the prices of goods and services.
My brother, Nigerians are paying well in tax. The only problem we have is corruption. Someone like me , I am paying over ₦20k deductible from my salary monthly and if you add the total number within my grade level, you will discover the government is making millions on my grade level, lest the other grade levels. That's just for one organisation. Corruption has been the bane of our problem and not any other thing.
The reason people complain about government policy is because of the insincerity on the part of government. Government will say one thing but go and do another thing. You don't tell the citizens to endure but went buying tyres and rims for 3.7b. Go build VP house for ₦30b as if he doesn't have where he is living before. Go renovate National Assembly for ₦15b. Travelling to Ethiopia with ₦1b. An Ethiopia in Africa and so many frivolities that can make a man you told to endure to look at you that you're fooling him.
Government insincerity is what is causing people to complain of their policies.
Let the government be seen cutting cost and selfless in service and that will build the people's confidence in them.
What would Peter Obi have done in the last 12 months
Your epistle does not tell us the solution to the fact that when Buhari left alm9st 100% of government revenue went to service debt and that another 23 trillion was owed to the CBN having been released into the economy without matching growth
Anger and emotion are not solutions
Airline funds were trapped in the country and without paying obligations the naira would crash

I am keen to hear what should have been done without anger or unproductive emotions

Twice Now
Each time Buhari left office his successors have had to swallow IMF medicines

Babangidas SAP was a lot worse than this
Those old enough will tell you

When you borrow and you cannot pay you lose sovereignty

Subsidy had to go otherwise debtors won't get paid

So the Nigerian people must pay
That is the bitter inheritance from Buhari

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by DatNiggaDaz: 5:32pm On Jul 20
blacknp:
If you are not a Shameless & helpless Thing, why else will you be whining that Bola Tinubu has not helped you better your life?
grin grin

When hopelesss low lives who depends on their miserable emilokan stipends assume that every sane Nigeria put their hope on a certificate forger drug addict to better their lives & that of their families, you will understand that some wasted souls will remain fools & slaves forever. grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 5:40pm On Jul 20
ElSudani:


The directive by Tinubu's administration to stop oil theft is supposed to achieve what exactly?
Also, how will this prevent the immediate consequences of the subsidy removal even if you were able to stop oil theft first?
You are still not telling me what Obi promised to do to prevent the averse effects of the subsidy removal.

You're novice in this issue, so you won't understand it even if I explain from now till tomorrow to you. The directive given by Mr. President to the service chiefs is to protect oil at the pipelines. The real saboteur is within the administrative chain in collaboration with the security agencies. Most of the cargoes don't get offloaded before been moved out of the country and it is only been accounted for by the administrative chain of NNPC. You know what, the cargoes diverted will be accounted for as among the oil consumed by the citizens.

Now, what Obi said he will do is to kill the NNPC and turn the oil there to water so that people will be using water to power their engine. Since after I have reeled out what he said he will do, you are still asking me again what he said he will do.
My brother, what you don't understand, you don't understand because all he said looks strange to you and you may think it may not work. You know why you look at it to seems may not work? Because those doing the sharp practices are friends to those in high places and most of their companies are also involved and that is why till date it has become and seemingly impossible to cut the corruption in NNPC.

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 5:58pm On Jul 20
DatNiggaDaz:
grin grin

When hopelesss low lives who depends on their miserable emilokan stipends assume that every sane Nigeria put their hope on a certificate forger drug addict to better their lives & that of their families, you will understand that some wasted souls will remain fools & slaves forever. grin cheesy cheesy
You are the one wailing that is hoping on a certificate forger, then accusing others of waiting for your Master Tinubu.

Is it possible that you can go a day without mentioning your nemesis Master Asiwaju Bola Tinubu?
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 6:05pm On Jul 20
Gajagojo:

What would Peter Obi have done in the last 12 months
Your epistle does not tell us the solution to the fact that when Buhari left alm9st 100% of government revenue went to service debt and that another 23 trillion was owed to the CBN having been released into the economy without matching growth
Anger and emotion are not solutions
Airline funds were trapped in the country and without paying obligations the naira would crash

I am keen to hear what should have been done without anger or unproductive emotions

Twice Now
Each time Buhari left office his successors have had to swallow IMF medicines

Babangidas SAP was a lot worse than this
Those old enough will tell you

When you borrow and you cannot pay you lose sovereignty

Subsidy had to go otherwise debtors won't get paid

So the Nigerian people must pay
That is the bitter inheritance from Buhari

Correct Talk.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 6:06pm On Jul 20
Gajagojo:

What would Peter Obi have done in the last 12 months
Your epistle does not tell us the solution to the fact that when Buhari left alm9st 100% of government revenue went to service debt and that another 23 trillion was owed to the CBN having been released into the economy without matching growth
Anger and emotion are not solutions
Airline funds were trapped in the country and without paying obligations the naira would crash

I am keen to hear what should have been done without anger or unproductive emotions

Twice Now
Each time Buhari left office his successors have had to swallow IMF medicines

Babangidas SAP was a lot worse than this
Those old enough will tell you

When you borrow and you cannot pay you lose sovereignty

Subsidy had to go otherwise debtors won't get paid

So the Nigerian people must pay
That is the bitter inheritance from Buhari

This your comment only nailed Tinubu's government the more. You can't inherit such acclaimed "terrible", let me use their own word "dead" economy and still be spending like the prodigal sons. The economy that you know was into serious debt but still spending like the wayward child.
My brother, every administrator has their ways of doing things. Me and you may decide that we want to go to Ghana. You may decide to go with plane but do you know I may decide to go by bicycle and I will still arrive there same way you would have arrived there early but mode we used to arrive there still differ. That's how administrative procedure is. Your Tinubu used fast administrative process but never weigh the pros and cons of the process and that resulted to what we are facing today.

In your last paragraph, you said Nigerian people must pay for what they inherited in a bitter way. My brother, no reasonable government transfer her burden to the citizens to bear. The aim of government is to always bring succumb to the citizens they govern and not to heap unbearable burden on them.
Do you think Buhari wasn't wise to have tarried the implementation of removal of the subsidy till after his tenure? He must have been told the pros and cons of removing it and that was why he vehemently resisted it removal all through his tenure.
Mr. President, should have stayed for sometimes and think of what to do before removing the subsidy but at that all the efforts made by him after the removal was just a surface dressing approach, which somehow compounded the problem.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Gajagojo: 6:31pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

This your comment only nailed Tinubu's government the more. You can't inherit such acclaimed "terrible", let me use their own word "dead" economy and still be spending like the prodigal sons. The economy that you know was into serious debt but still spending like the wayward child.
My brother, every administrator has their ways of doing things. Me and you may decide that we want to go to Ghana. You may decide to go with plane but do you know I may decide to go by bicycle and I will still arrive there same way you would have arrived there early but mode we used to arrive there still differ. That's how administrative procedure is. Your Tinubu used fast administrative process but never weigh the pros and cons of the process and that resulted to what we are facing today.

In your last paragraph, you said Nigerian people must pay for what they inherited in a bitter way. My brother, no reasonable government transfer her burden to the citizens to bear. The aim of government is to always bring succumb to the citizens they govern and not to heap unbearable burden on them.
Do you think Buhari wasn't wise to have tarried the implementation of removal of the subsidy till after his tenure? He must have been told the pros and cons of removing it and that was why he vehemently resisted it removal all through his tenure.
Mr. President, should have stayed for sometimes and think of what to do before removing the subsidy but at that all the efforts made by him after the removal was just a surface dressing approach, which somehow compounded the problem.
I am not Tinubu's spokesman.
I am not his enemy
Do you have any ideas devoid of reference to Tinubu?

We are where we are instead you keep regurgitation of impotent anger
They should have waited before removing subsidy and pay for it with which money?.
Buhari did not pay one kobo of what was budgeted for subsidy in 2024 from January to May
NNPC. was illegally bearing the brunt and giving the government credit
That debt has. NOT YET been paid

So tell us how was this delay in removal to be funded? By bankrupting NNPC?

Please let us discuss ideas not Tinubu or fantasy

The only problem I have with Tinubu is he is not showing example in curbing the cost of governance and he has been reluctant to come out and tell Nigerians the truth about Buhari but none of those two things changes reality on ground

All logical actors know there was zero prospect of Tinubu coming into office to start with a supplementary budget to pay for subsidy evenif for one week
The whole budget till the end of May that Buhari made REMAINS A DEBTon NNPC balance sheet

Where will the money come from?
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by ElSudani: 6:57pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

You're novice in this issue, so you won't understand it even if I explain from now till tomorrow to you. The directive given by Mr. President to the service chiefs is to protect oil at the pipelines. The real saboteur is within the administrative chain in collaboration with the security agencies. Most of the cargoes don't get offloaded before been moved out of the country and it is only been accounted for by the administrative chain of NNPC. You know what, the cargoes diverted will be accounted for as among the oil consumed by the citizens.

Now, what Obi said he will do is to kill the NNPC and turn the oil there to water so that people will be using water to power their engine. Since after I have reeled out what he said he will do, you are still asking me again what he said he will do.
My brother, what you don't understand, you don't understand because all he said looks strange to you and you may think it may not work. You know why you look at it to seems may not work? Because those doing the sharp practices are friends to those in high places and most of their companies are also involved and that is why till date it has become and seemingly impossible to cut the corruption in NNPC.

With all due respect you are talking nonsense. If Obi kill the NNPC then oil theft will end because he intended to kill the perpetrators as well?
Tell me in simple terms what Obi proposed to ease the pain of subsidy removal.
Let me help you, he proposed nothing just empty rhetorics.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by ElSudani: 7:03pm On Jul 20
Gajagojo:

I am not Tinubu's spokesman.
I am not his enemy
Do you have any ideas devoid of reference to Tinubu?

We are where we are instead you keep regurgitation of impotent anger
They should have waited before removing subsidy and pay for it with which money?.
Buhari did not pay one kobo of what was budgeted for subsidy in 2024 from January to May
NNPC. was illegally bearing the brunt and giving the government credit
That debt has. NOT YET been paid

So tell us how was this delay in removal to be funded? By bankrupting NNPC?

Please let us discuss ideas not Tinubu or fantasy

The only problem I have with Tinubu is he is not showing example in curbing the cost of governance and he has been reluctant to come out and tell Nigerians the truth about Buhari but none of those two things changes reality on ground

All logical actors know there was zero prospect of Tinubu coming into office to start with a supplementary budget to pay for subsidy evenif for one week
The whole budget till the end of May that Buhari made REMAINS A DEBTon NNPC balance sheet

Wherewithal money come from?

That guy is not making any sense. He doesn't have the answer to the simple question " what Obi could have done differently"
He Kept rambling about killing the NNPC!
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by DatNiggaDaz: 7:08pm On Jul 20
blacknp:
You are the one wailing that is hoping on a certificate forger, then accusing others of waiting for your Master Tinubu.

Is it possible that you can go a day without mentioning your nemesis Master Asiwaju Bola Tinubu?
grin cheesy

Bla bla bla, hungry people of low self esteem whose lives depends on an irreparable damage mo"ron are the lowest scums of the earth.

Tinubu is a useless irredemable failure of immense proportion grin grin

Oya cry grin grin

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 7:17pm On Jul 20
DatNiggaDaz:
grin cheesy

Bla bla bla, hungry people of low self esteem whose lives depends on an irreparable damage mo"ron are the lowest scums of the earth.

Tinubu is a useless irredemable failure of immense proportion grin grin

Oya cry
grin grin
Those who like yourself advocate making pathological bigotry a formal psychiatric diagnosis argue: Psychiatrists and other mental health professionals regularly confront extreme forms of religious homophobia, ethnicity and other forms of irrational hatred.

Many patients holding these views are troubled and sometimes even disabled by them, Some individuals with pathological bigotry are frankly delusional, perceive themselves as "under attack," in their eyepob mentality, and become overtly dangerous to themselves or others.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by DatNiggaDaz: 7:34pm On Jul 20
blacknp:
Those who like yourself advocate making pathological bigotry a formal psychiatric diagnosis argue: Psychiatrists and other mental health professionals regularly confront extreme forms of religious homophobia, ethnicity and other forms of irrational hatred.

Many patients holding these views are troubled and sometimes even disabled by them, Some individuals with pathological bigotry are frankly delusional, perceive themselves as "under attack," in their eyepob mentality, and become overtly dangerous to themselves or others.
grin grin grin grin

The failure Tinubu & those defending & supporting the cocain addict are hungry shameless psychos grin

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 8:23pm On Jul 20
DatNiggaDaz:
grin grin grin grin

The failure Tinubu & those defending & supporting the cocain addict are hungry shameless psychos grin
Sorry that you are subject to the authority of Bola Ahmed Tinubu, no be my fault say them born you for The Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 8:48pm On Jul 20
Gajagojo:

I am not Tinubu's spokesman.
I am not his enemy
Do you have any ideas devoid of reference to Tinubu?

We are where we are instead you keep regurgitation of impotent anger
They should have waited before removing subsidy and pay for it with which money?.
Buhari did not pay one kobo of what was budgeted for subsidy in 2024 from January to May
NNPC. was illegally bearing the brunt and giving the government credit
That debt has. NOT YET been paid

So tell us how was this delay in removal to be funded? By bankrupting NNPC?

Please let us discuss ideas not Tinubu or fantasy

The only problem I have with Tinubu is he is not showing example in curbing the cost of governance and he has been reluctant to come out and tell Nigerians the truth about Buhari but none of those two things changes reality on ground

All logical actors know there was zero prospect of Tinubu coming into office to start with a supplementary budget to pay for subsidy evenif for one week
The whole budget till the end of May that Buhari made REMAINS A DEBTon NNPC balance sheet

Where will the money come from?
Buhari allocated 3.6trilliin for subsidy till June 2023. That was why many people frown at Tinubu when at his inauguration he pronounced the removal of subsidy.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/10/2023-budget-buhari-earmarks-n3-6trn-for-fuel-subsidy/&ved=2ahUKEwjXosPdqraHAxWmW0EAHf2SAkwQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XWrPfQLMtpn8ZLJDd0k43
You have to show me a contrary link to show that subsidy was not paid for till the end of June, 2023.
All this your argument is untenable. If the same Tinubu can made supplementary budget to request for buying airplane that they never planned for two or three months ago, why do you think in weeks he cannot make request for issue that bother on the generality?
You started that you are not a spokesman to Tinubu, so I don't expect you to hide behind one finger to cover up what is not cover able, because
I know you as one of his supporters. I don't want you to gaslight me here please.
There's always room in the constitution for exigencies or emergency request. If it is issue that concern them, they know how they do it but those that concern masses are so difficult for them to do. So saying it would be difficult for him to make request for supplementary budget is within your own ideology and thinking and not what is obtainable in political space.
Buhari has fully paid for subsidy till June, 2023, meaning Tinubu has a full one month grace to study the policy of removing the subsidy or not but he was hasty.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Gajagojo: 8:50pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

Buhari allocated 3.6trilliin for subsidy till June 2023. That was why many people frown at Tinubu when at his inauguration he pronounced the removal of subsidy.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/10/2023-budget-buhari-earmarks-n3-6trn-for-fuel-subsidy/&ved=2ahUKEwjXosPdqraHAxWmW0EAHf2SAkwQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XWrPfQLMtpn8ZLJDd0k43
You have to show me a contrary link to show that subsidy was not paid for till the end of June, 2023.
All this your argument is untenable. If the same Tinubu can made supplementary budget to request for buying airplane that they never planned for two or three months ago, why do you think in weeks he cannot make request for issue that bother on the generality?
You started that you are not a spokesman to Tinubu, so I don't expect you to hide behind one finger to cover up what is not cover able, because
I know you as one of his supporters. I don't want you to gaslight me here please.
There's always room in the constitution for exigencies or emergency request. If it is issue that concern them, they know how they do it but those that concern masses are so difficult for them to do. So saying it would be difficult for him to make request for supplementary budget is within your own ideology and thinking and not what is obtainable in political space.
Buhari has fully paid for subsidy till June, 2023, meaning Tinubu has a full one month grace to study the policy of removing the subsidy or not but he was hasty.

He budgeted


Did he pay one kobo of it?
Yes or no?

If you don't know just be silent
NNPC is on record in May and June last year about what they were owed


Following Tinubu’s announcement, NNPC Limited said it welcomes the removal of the subsidy. Its boss added that the government owes the company 2.8 trillion naira ($6bn) for the petrol subsidy.
Following Tinubu’s announcement, NNPC Limited said it welcomes the removal of the subsidy. Its boss added that the government owes the company 2.8 trillion naira ($6bn) for the petrol subsidy.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/31/nigeria-fuel-subsidy-cut-spiralling-costs-all-you-need-to-know
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 8:52pm On Jul 20
ElSudani:


With all due respect you are talking nonsense. If Obi kill the NNPC then oil theft will end between he intended to kill the perpetrators as well?
Tell me in simple terms what Obi proposed to ease the pain of subsidy removal.
Let me help you, he proposed nothing just empty rhetorics.
I have told you that the issue we are discussing is beyond your intellectual property. So, leave the issue for those that know a bit of it and concentrate on your normal politics and defending your master.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 8:55pm On Jul 20
Gajagojo:


He budgeted


Did he pay one kobo of it?
Yes or no?

If you don't know just be silent
NNPC is on record in May and June last year about what they were owed
How I wish you just attach a link to show that Buhari never paid from subsidy till June, 2023, that would have rested this argument. Buhari pay off the sum of 3.6t for subsidy between June, 2022 to June, 2023. I want you to bring out contrary view and not this market women gossip.

6trillion was projected for subsidy in the year 2023 and Buhari paid the sum of 3.6trillion. It is the balance the news you attached quoted.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/701270-despite-tinubus-pronouncement-nigerian-govt-spent-n3-6-trillion-on-subsidy-in-2023.html%23:~:text%3D6%2520trillion%2520on%2520subsidy%2520in%25202023,-byMary%2520Izuaka%26text%3DDespite%2520petrol%2520subsidy%2520removal%252C%2520the,by%2520the%2520end%2520of%25202024.&ved=2ahUKEwjXosPdqraHAxWmW0EAHf2SAkwQFnoECBQQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3mNIYZ934qMbPwcwcUVjGS
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Gajagojo: 9:00pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

How I wish you just attach a link to show that Buhari never paid from subsidy till June, 2023, that would have rested this argument. Buhari pay off the sum of 3.6t for subsidy between June, 2022 to June, 2023. I want you to bring out contrary view and not this market women gossip.

I do not have time for endless and pointless merry-go-round
What is the issue of contention here?

What exactly is your point
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by ElSudani: 9:05pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

I have told you that the issue we are discussing is beyond your intellectual property. So, leave the issue for those that know a bit of it and concentrate on your normal politics and defending your master.

You are talking rubbish. This is not about throwing insults, I've repeatedly asked you the same question while you've only been able to give puerile and irrelevant rambling.
Do you think I'm swayed by your silly insults?
You've only been able to expose your ignorance here.
For the umpteenth time, tell us without insults what Obi proposed to do to eliminate the effects of the subsidy removal which he promised on the campaign trail.

Reply with insult and further consolidate your ignorance.

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Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Gajagojo: 9:11pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:

How I wish you just attach a link to show that Buhari never paid from subsidy till June, 2023, that would have rested this argument. Buhari pay off the sum of 3.6t for subsidy between June, 2022 to June, 2023. I want you to bring out contrary view and not this market women gossip.

6trillion was projected for subsidy in the year 2023 and Buhari paid the sum of 3.6trillion. It is the balance the news you attached quoted.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/701270-despite-tinubus-pronouncement-nigerian-govt-spent-n3-6-trillion-on-subsidy-in-2023.html%23:~:text%3D6%2520trillion%2520on%2520subsidy%2520in%25202023,-byMary%2520Izuaka%26text%3DDespite%2520petrol%2520subsidy%2520removal%252C%2520the,by%2520the%2520end%2520of%25202024.&ved=2ahUKEwjXosPdqraHAxWmW0EAHf2SAkwQFnoECBQQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3mNIYZ934qMbPwcwcUVjGS



Kyari said although there was provision for the subsidy in the 2023 budget up to June 30, there was no money to fund it.


You. Argue blindly and foolishly


What exactly is the summary of your argument
The country must burn because Obi lost
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by DatNiggaDaz: 9:54pm On Jul 20
blacknp:
Sorry that you are subject to the authority of Bola Ahmed Tinubu, no be my fault say them born you for The Federal Republic of Nigeria.
grin grin

Your wish grin

You & your family are the ones claming to stand on a hopeless mandate. You believed in the renewed hopelessness of your bullion van Narcotics fraud to better the lives of you & your family.

Are you denying being a BATist ? Only empty brains believed on a fraudulent incompetent certificate forger Tinubu.

How can real Niggaz expect something from an imbe"cile of mass failures ? grin grin

Are you Kind of confused or deluded from the Chicago white substance. What da Allah are you hajjing on grin grin grin
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by blacknp(m): 10:18pm On Jul 20
DatNiggaDaz:
grin grin

Your wish grin

You & your family are the ones claming to stand on a hopeless mandate. You believed in the renewed hopelessness of your bullion van Narcotics fraud to better the lives of you & your family.

Are you denying being a BATist ? Only empty brains believed on a fraudulent incompetent certificate forger Tinubu.

How can real Niggaz expect something from an imbe"cile of mass failures ? grin grin

Are you Kind of confused or deluded from the Chicago white substance. What da Allah are you hajjing on grin grin grin
Na so you are anguishing on behalf of the bereaved?

Confused Wailer.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Samtob90(m): 10:49pm On Jul 20
IfnobeGod20:
This is what I hate hearing. Every successful government come and complained of her predecessor and Aimee times complained of foundational predecessors. To me, it makes no sense at all. You vie for an election because you think you can do it more better. Dwelling on the past failures makes me angry and uncomfortable. If during campaign you safely tell the electorates, I won't be able to do more than the person there now, I do believe electorates would have looked for an alternative.
No doubt we depend too much on importation but our problem is multifaceted and it was primary caused by policy somersault of the government. Let me give you a little scenario of what caused this hike in prices of goods and services. Mama P a garri seller went to market to buy foreign good and on getting there she discovered the good she was buying ₦2k is now ₦10k. On getting home, she has not look for alternate to argument the increase she incurred in the good she bought, she will now increase the price of her garri she's selling ₦3k to ₦7k. Now, papa K selling yam went to buy garri and discovered the price of garri has increased, he gets back home and increase his yam price from ₦2k to ₦5k and the circle continues. This is what caused this incessant hike in the prices of goods and services.
My brother, Nigerians are paying well in tax. The only problem we have is corruption. Someone like me , I am paying over ₦20k deductible from my salary monthly and if you add the total number within my grade level, you will discover the government is making millions on my grade level, lest the other grade levels. That's just for one organisation. Corruption has been the bane of our problem and not any other thing.
The reason people complain about government policy is because of the insincerity on the part of government. Government will say one thing but go and do another thing. You don't tell the citizens to endure but went buying tyres and rims for 3.7b. Go build VP house for ₦30b as if he doesn't have where he is living before. Go renovate National Assembly for ₦15b. Travelling to Ethiopia with ₦1b. An Ethiopia in Africa and so many frivolities that can make a man you told to endure to look at you that you're fooling him.
Government insincerity is what is causing people to complain of their policies.
Let the government be seen cutting cost and selfless in service and that will build the people's confidence in them.
Thanks for your response, the summary of the whole thing is bad, greedy and corrupt governance over the year.
1. A year is never enough to turn around the economy. However, there was pride in the implications of both subsidy and Forex floating thereby creating hardship.

2. Nigeria is not paying the required tax compared with other countries as well as developed countries but then, government has not justified the little we pay. They live big at the expense of the infrastructure and development. While working in oau then, we divided the personnel cost alone by the numbers of students all together, each student is required to pay 500k per annum to cover salaries alone. Overheard and capital
expenditure excluded.

3. I support protest that will address all the politicians both present and past who brought us to this level but not selected targets.

I stand tall to tell you that a some countries within west Africa pay COVID 19 tax up till even the lat purchase I made today.

It is well. I was once a community leader, I stand tall till today but we were forced to resign because we did not share the community money.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by Badb0y4lyf(m): 2:35pm On Jul 21
ALTERNATEID:


By Doyin Okupe

Doyin okupe is a brilliant mind at least in the realm of information analysis and delivery I give it to him just as dele Momodu and even Reno had acknowledged. Politics aside I would give anything to sit having a discuss with all three at a table of men with drinks and his thoughts. I like how landing the views punches strategically tainted with mutual respect. However a politician is never and honorably Man.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 3:42pm On Jul 21
ElSudani:


You are talking rubbish. This is not about throwing insults, I've repeatedly asked you the same question while you've only been to give puerile and irrelevant rambling.
Do you think I'm swayed by your silly insults?
You've only been able to expose your ignorance here.
For the umpteenth time, tell us without insults what Obi proposed to do to eliminate the effects of the subsidy removal which he promised on the campaign trail.

Reply with insult and further consolidate your ignorance.
I have told you this issue in discourse is beyond your intelligence quotient. I am not trying to debase you but to let you know that the issue is just beyond your scope to cope. Rest I won't dignify you again with a pint of reply.
Re: I Do Not Pray For Nigeria To Crash - Doyin Okupe Responds To Dele Momodu by IfnobeGod20: 4:05pm On Jul 21
Gajagojo:




Kyari said although there was provision for the subsidy in the 2023 budget up to June 30, there was no money to fund it.


You. Argue blindly and foolishly


What exactly is the summary of your argument
The country must burn because Obi lost
This is the same person telling me nothing concern him with Tinubu. A man that I have his catalogue of comments in favour of Tinubu. Please be man enough to stay put to what you believe and never hide it.
I can't vote by the nature of my job but I stand with Obi till date and everyone that I had contact with me here knows this. Same way I supported Buhari, until he started derailing and I withdrew my love for him in politics.

Nobody want to burn the country than those impoverishing the citizens and exposing them to danger of angry men that are hungry. And those that don't live by what they preach but prefer to live larger than life by spending frivolously. These are set of people that want to burn down the country and not those that lost election, because it's not today that elections are lost and won.
It's the same set of people that in the past incited people after the lost election and scores of people were killed at the eve of presidential election. Till date I have not heard that a soul has been loss because Peter Obi or Atiku lost election. So direct your bile to those directly and indirectly burning the country for winning election.
Even after I posted the link of the amount budgeted for subsidy in 2023 and the amount that had been paid before the expiration of Buhari's tenure but you still feigned ignorance of the link but still brandishing the balance of what to pay, which the GMD narrated.
Let me make it simple for you, may be that will sink well to your brain.

A 6trillion was budgeted for subsidy in 2023
A 3.6trillion was paid
When you minus the amount budgeted and the amount paid, you have left 2.4trillion.
This is the amount Kyari said wasn't available for payment of subsidy.
I hope I have made it simpler for you now to understand.

I don't say you should not support Tinubu but don't go about telling lie to cover up the obvious. If by tomorrow Mr. President did something significant that is worthy to praise him for, I will be part of those that will praise him, just as the way I praised Wike for beefing up security in FCT by the distribution of Hilux to security agencies.
I am not a politician, so I can't be a party man that will always defend the mess of a party. I praise when I needed to praise and I scold when the other side comes.
The only thing is, I am a special love for Peter Obi and he is not my tribe.

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