johnw47:


ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

so say's a lost false jw blasphemer of the Holy Spirit
your rewards are surely coming:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Luke 6:27-28; Colossians 4:6; 2Timothy 2:25

Janosky:
Carry your IBERIBEISM komot from this public forum.
John double W dunce.

seunowa:


Sincerely I do not get what exactly your point is about the identity of Christ Jesus. While not come out with a concise and unambiguous explanation of identity of Christ Jesus.

Tetraozonaitera:
You have just wasted space and time writing the long piece.

At the court of Law. After quarell with your neighbor who was so smart to have recorded your voice which in your own words you were bragging you will cut his son's head off one day.

The Judge facing you says Mr. Jude, can you tell this honourable court who was that talking and bragging?
What would you say when you know your neighbor got you refunded?

"It was me your honor" would be your answer if you dont want greater punishment for telling lies.

Those were your words in your own voice.

Only a mental patient would say "Your Honor, it was not me Sir. It was only my voice"

The Judge may have to tell them to go and check your Sanity.

In a nutshell, you cant separate a man from his word.
His word is him. He is his word.

Jesus is the word of God.
You cant separate God from His Word.
He is His Word, His Word is He.

Shalom

Janosky:
Oga, do you follow Jesus Christ?
Did the Jesus Christ you follow, worship 3 deities?
1 Corinthians 11:1,3. Paul copied Jesus Christ.
Did Paul worship 3 deities?

Janosky:


When God did not speak : "Let there be light".
Did light exist?

When God did not speak, did the word exist?

Please think about it deeply.

gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

Tetraozonaitera:

In a nutshell, you cant separate a man from his word. His word is him. He is his word.
Shalom

MaxInDHouse:


"This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me" Matthew 15:8

Jesus commanded his own disciples:

You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him. Matthew 5:38-39

Tetraozonaitera:



You have just wasted space and time writing the long piece.

At the court of Law. After quarell with your neighbor who was so smart to have recorded your voice which in your own words you were bragging you will cut his son's head off one day.

The Judge facing you says Mr. Jude, can you tell this honourable court who was that talking and bragging?
What would you say when you know your neighbor got you redhanded?

"It was me your honor" would be your answer if you dont want greater punishment for telling lies.

Those were your words in your own voice.

Only a mental patient would say "Your Honor, it was not me Sir. It was only my voice"

The Judge may have to tell them to go and check your Sanity.

In a nutshell, you cant separate a man from his word.
His word is him. He is his word.

Jesus is the Word of God.
You cant separate God from His Word.
He is His Word, His Word is He.

Shalom

Tetraozonaitera:


The word had been existing with God. Even before the creation of the world.
The Bible says Without Him Nothing was created that was created. So what exactly are you saying?
He existed with God before the "Let there be Light"
Are you saying God has not been talking before "Let there be Light?"

Dont Get yourself confused to win an argument.

Since you cant Exist Without Your word and
You were made in the Image of God. That means God HAS BEEN Existing with his Word since before TIME.

Janosky:


Oga, do you follow Jesus Christ?

Did the Jesus Christ you follow, worship 3 deities?


1 Corinthians 11:1,3. Paul copied Jesus Christ.

Did Paul worship 3 deities?

Janosky:


2 Corinthians 1:3
"Praise be the God ( ho Theos of John 1:1) & Father (Senior) of our lord Jesus Christ".


** Final verdict & For emphasis:

* Praise be the God (ho Theos) & Father (the Senior) of our lord Jesus Christ".

* "The Father (the Senior) is greater than I (Jesus)", John 14:28.

Oga, Jesus your deity confirmed his Senior superior above Jesus.

Oga Steep does NOT believe the holy scriptures of Psalm 82:1,6 confirmed @ John 10:34-36,by Jesus his deity.

In public you dey reject the words confirmed by Jesus.
Oga ,you see your life?

Oga Steep, please CURE YOUR delusion invented at Nicene.



"Ho Theos" (the God) phrase in the old & new testament , (for example Exodus 3:6 & Acts 3:13)
to reference "the ONLY True God greater than Jesus.




Oga Steep,is any Spirit in heaven greater than himself?

Oga Steep acts as if Jehovah the only true God greater than Jesus had not inspired the words of Job 38:1-7 & Hebrews 1:2 as well as Revelation 3:12.

"Jehovah is the Source of Jesus Christ."
- Miles Monroe, your fellow Trinitarian confessed that.

Steep:
The father is greater than Jesus in position based on the fact that Jesus took a lower position (Phil. 2:7) not in his divine essence which is same with the father.

You don't see the contradiction in your statement. How can the Jehovah be the only true God and yet there are other smaller ditties?
If the Jehovah is the only true God does that not make every other god a false god?

Steep:

The father is greater than Jesus in position based on the fact that Jesus took a lower position (Phil. 2:7) not in his divine essence which is same with the father.

You don't see the contradiction in your statement. How can the Jehovah be the only true God and yet there are other smaller ditties?
If the Jehovah is the only true God does that not make every other god a false god?

Kingsempires:
Oga no border yourself i don caught them if your see what i wrote up there You will see i don caught them

MaxInDHouse:


The lower position Jesus took is it before or after coming to the earth?

Steep:
The guy nor dey honest at all.

Steep:
just before coming to the earth. See Phil 2:7.
He made himself of no reputation taking the form of a servant, before he was made a man.
Note the change of language,before taking upon himself the form of a servant he did all things by his authority but after taking upon himself the form of a servant he relinquished that authority to the father and he was made a man not by himself.

We don't see different gods but one God who is in three different persons playing different roles to fulfill his will.

Kingsempires:
Anybody that is using the bible and saying Jesus is not God am sorry for that person.what was john 13:31 explaining?

MaxInDHouse:


•According to the scriptures David didn't see one or three person in the Bible book of Psalm 110:1 rather he saw TWO persons and one is LOWER in position.

•Jesus himself said we need to have the knowledge of TWO persons! John 17:3

•Also after Jesus has returned to the heavens Stephen didn't see just one or three persons rather he saw TWO just like David did. Act 7:56

Can you explain that?

Kingsempires:
They can't answer the question because they know that they are contradict the bible if jesus was the first creation that is why the bible call him first born son.so why did God say he will make david the first born son so they are trying to tell me that God has two first born sons.i am waiting for their answer

MaxInDHouse:


•According to the scriptures David didn't see one or three person in the Bible book of Psalm 110:1 rather he saw TWO persons and one is LOWER in position.

•Jesus himself said we need to have the knowledge of TWO persons! John 17:3

•Also after Jesus has returned to the heavens Stephen didn't see just one or three persons rather he saw TWO just like David did. Act 7:56

Can you explain that?

Steep:

They only saw what God permitted them to see i.e God and the Messiah. David was seeing into the future when the Messiah would sit with the father in his throne.
You asked me a question and I answered yet no comment on that. Nawao

Steep:
just before coming to the earth. See Phil 2:7.
He made himself of no reputation taking the form of a servant, before he was made a man.
Note the change of language,before taking upon himself the form of a servant he did all things by his authority but after taking upon himself the form of a servant he relinquished that authority to the father and he was made a man not by himself.

We don't see different gods but one God who is in three different persons playing different roles to fulfill his will.

MaxInDHouse:


Comment:

Jesus was CREATED by God Almighty (Father) so Jesus is the firstborn of all creations he is an intelligent and wise child who tries to imitate everything he sees his father doing {John 5:19} so with the long time they both spent together God loved this son so much that He God decided to create more other creatures for the pleasure of His son {Colossians 1:15-16} to make the child happy God allowed him to participate in the creation work {Proverbs 8:22-30} that's why it's just these two persons that always suffice anytime the heavens is revealed! Psalms 110:1; John 17:3; Act 7:56

That's my comment!

Steep:
ignorant man, so if someone writes in 3rd person pronoun it means they are not eye witnesses?
You an ignorant man who don't even know the meaning of eye witness, is calling what professionals has certified to be history, a story.
Even a fool has more hope than you.

Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

MaxInDHouse:


Comment:

Jesus was CREATED by God Almighty (Father) so Jesus is the firstborn of all creations he is an intelligent and wise child who tries to imitate everything he sees his father doing {John 5:19} so with the long time they both spent together God loved this son so much that He God decided to create more other creatures for the pleasure of His son {Colossians 1:15-16} to make the child happy God allowed him to participate in the creation work {Proverbs 8:22-30} that's why it's just these two persons that always suffice anytime the heavens is revealed! Psalms 110:1; John 17:3; Act 7:56

That's my comment!