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Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by BALLOSKI: 3:54am On Jul 30
Asonaijaaso:
All those people shouting Dangote refinery is going to make prices cheaper.

"He plans to sell at international rates, meaning government will buy it expensive from him and subsidized it for the citizens."

He is a 100% Businessman.
Dont let them drag you into their challenges.
These people dont care about us.
You're not saying the truth, sir. In my business, it's mostly driven by diesel, and we were buying diesel in some places between 1600-1900/ltr. When Dangote started, it crashed to about 1,050-1,100/ltr.

Dangote refinery will make petrol cheaper in the long run and possibly end scarcity forever.


Do you prefer government buys the products at an expensive rate from another country, where our people are not employed, they don't pay tax here? Com'on, let's pay that to our highest payer of tax and biggest employer of labor in Nigeria.


If the landing cost is 1,070 naira and we take the price of shipping and insurance and other expenses away, since it's bought here, the price would go to around 700 - I think the government can pay 200 naira as the extra for the people while we wait for the market to get saturated when other refineries come on board and competition begins to take care of prices.
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by Asonaijaaso: 4:29am On Jul 30
BALLOSKI:
You're not saying the truth, sir. In my business, it's mostly driven by diesel, and we were buying diesel in some places between 1600-1900/ltr. When Dangote started, it crashed to about 1,050-1,100/ltr.

Dangote refinery will make petrol cheaper in the long run and possibly end scarcity forever.


Do you prefer government buys the products at an expensive rate from another country, where our people are not employed, they don't pay tax here? Com'on, let's pay that to our highest payer of tax and biggest employer of labor in Nigeria.


If the landing cost is 1,070 naira and we take the price of shipping and insurance and other expenses away, since it's bought here, the price would go to around 700 - I think the government can pay 200 naira as the extra for the people while we wait for the market to get saturated when other refineries come on board and competition begins to take care of prices.

Why is cement not cheap compared to the rest of Africa/world ?
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by Kukutente23: 5:50am On Jul 30
grandstar:


The country is broke. The government is broke! There's no money! Government can not sacrifice any revenue.

Any shortfall in revenue will have to be borrowed. Nigeria isn't a country that can cope with a huge debt burden as the interest rates are above 25%, and tax collection is barely 10% of GDP. The only way government can service more debt is simply by printing more money which is very inflationary.

Contrast with America where rates are around 3% and tax collection is about 28% of GDP.

There are better ways to help the poor such as lifting the ban on the importation of certain food or slashing import duty on them.

Import duty on wheat is 70%. Why not slash it to 20%? This will help bring down the price of bread. I won't be surprised of 1,500 bread won't crash to 1,200 or less of this happends.

The ban on rice imports makes no sense as Nigeria lacks any competitive or comparative advantage producing it. It is cheaper for the country to import than to produce it more locally. The government plans to open the borders for the import of unprocessed rice into the country with a zero percent duty is a fine move if implemented. Import duty on processed rice should be 30% at the beginning and eventually reduced to 20%

The ban on the importation of poultry meat also makes no sense. Allow its importation with an import duty of 20% maximum. Nigerians are starving, really starving.

These policies will not only help bring down the price of food, but also but boost the government purse with 100s of billions of Naira, which it desperately needs.

I disagree totally. Nigeria is not broke. It is virtually impossible for Nigeria to be broke. Nigeria has fiscal issues but certainly not broke.
Shortfall in revenue is borrowed all over the world. That's the idea behind deficit financing. It's nothing to panic about. The main thrust is the source of borrowing and sustainability of paying back.
The poor are mostly into farming. So I don't see how food importation which basically takes income from them helps them. In my view, food importation helps the middle class because it leads to lower cost. It does not help the poor though.
There's a disconnect between govt posturing and their approach to fiscal issues. For example, this is the largest govt in our history. At a time we claim to be broke and have to spend judiciously. Even ministers who are heads of govt departments have their aides separate from the civil servants.
That said, what the govt needs is to get its priorities right and focus on areas of quick wins. Any other thing is a waste of time.
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by CodeTemplar: 7:47am On Jul 30
grandstar:


The country is broke. The government is broke! There's no money! Government can not sacrifice any revenue.

Any shortfall in revenue will have to be borrowed. Nigeria isn't a country that can cope with a huge debt burden as the interest rates are above 25%, and tax collection is barely 10% of GDP. The only way government can service more debt is simply by printing more money which is very inflationary.

Contrast with America where rates are around 3% and tax collection is about 28% of GDP.

There are better ways to help the poor such as lifting the ban on the importation of certain food or slashing import duty on them.

Import duty on wheat is 70%. Why not slash it to 20%? This will help bring down the price of bread. I won't be surprised of 1,500 bread won't crash to 1,200 or less of this happends.

The ban on rice imports makes no sense as Nigeria lacks any competitive or comparative advantage producing it. It is cheaper for the country to import than to produce it more locally. The government plans to open the borders for the import of unprocessed rice into the country with a zero percent duty is a fine move if implemented. Import duty on processed rice should be 30% at the beginning and eventually reduced to 20%

The ban on the importation of poultry meat also makes no sense. Allow its importation with an import duty of 20% maximum. Nigerians are starving, really starving.

These policies will not only help bring down the price of food, but also but boost the government purse with 100s of billions of Naira, which it desperately needs.

Lifting the ban on food importation is a short term solution and another long term trap thats as impacting as subsidy. Where will forex to import food flow in from if oil revenue, which is the greater half of our export, is not as forthcoming as it used to?

The advise to allow food import should be replaced with proactive local food production. If 8 months ago the govt had taken agric serious and doubled efforts to cultivate and clean that sector of corruption, by now, the urge to import basic grains wont arise. The national grain reserve is in shambles and the govt is only using it to create propaganda content. Each time they are pressed, they release imaginary grains into the states. Instead of us to farm. They have left the farmers at the mercy of bandits, rent seeking middleme, and police/thugs who levy food on transit.

Zimbabwe has tasted some tough inflation and even hyper-inflation long enough unlike us and in all their experience, guess what they are doing right now? They are doubling local wheat production and the govt is heavily involved. Not just lip service governance we have here and then some fire brigade policies.
Tanzania too is increasing local grain production, I made a thread on that few hours ago. You can check it out.

Where is our dry season rice and wheat farming output today? If it exist, I didn't notice it o.

Importation is just the beginning of another problem that as big as subsidy. Few months ago I advised the govt to import food and sell almost directly to consumers with as little profit as possible to bypass rent seeking middlemen. The thread is still alive. I think that's a better version of your advise to open the borders unconditionally to food.
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by Tianamen1: 6:45pm On Jul 30
grandstar:


The country is broke. The government is broke! There's no money! Government can not sacrifice any revenue.

Any shortfall in revenue will have to be borrowed. Nigeria isn't a country that can cope with a huge debt burden as the interest rates are above 25%, and tax collection is barely 10% of GDP. The only way government can service more debt is simply by printing more money which is very inflationary.

Contrast with America where rates are around 3% and tax collection is about 28% of GDP.

There are better ways to help the poor such as lifting the ban on the importation of certain food or slashing import duty on them.

Import duty on wheat is 70%. Why not slash it to 20%? This will help bring down the price of bread. I won't be surprised of 1,500 bread won't crash to 1,200 or less of this happends.

The ban on rice imports makes no sense as Nigeria lacks any competitive or comparative advantage producing it. It is cheaper for the country to import than to produce it more locally. The government plans to open the borders for the import of unprocessed rice into the country with a zero percent duty is a fine move if implemented. Import duty on processed rice should be 30% at the beginning and eventually reduced to 20%

The ban on the importation of poultry meat also makes no sense. Allow its importation with an import duty of 20% maximum. Nigerians are starving, really starving.

These policies will not only help bring down the price of food, but also but boost the government purse with 100s of billions of Naira, which it desperately needs.

nice write-up.
please what is the import duty on cars, building materials and furniture?
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by ufotunang: 7:47pm On Jul 30
mrvitalis:

We haven't taken any forward step since 2015
..abi..it's quite unfortunate
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by grandstar(m): 9:26pm On Jul 30
Tianamen1:

nice write-up.
please what is the import duty on cars, building materials and furniture?

I think cars is 35%.

Use this as a guide

https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/nigeria-import-tariffs

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Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by BALLOSKI: 12:22am On Jul 31
Asonaijaaso:


Why is cement not cheap compared to the rest of Africa/world ?
This lie is being told too many times and It's appearing like It's the truth.

Where's cement sold in the name of Dangote than it's sold in Nigeria? Don't give me that fake Ghana story that's already been debunked.

If the Naira is devalued and price of diesel shoot up, what do you think would happen to commodities? So, cement should maintain its old price when everything went up?
Re: Only NNPCL Can Buy Dangote Petrol – IPMAN by Asonaijaaso: 1:25am On Jul 31
BALLOSKI:
This lie is being told too many times and It's appearing like It's the truth.

Where's cement sold in the name of Dangote than it's sold in Nigeria? Don't give me that fake Ghana story that's already been debunked.

If the Naira is devalued and price of diesel shoot up, what do you think would happen to commodities? So, cement should maintain its old price when everything went up?

To suggest that cement prices in Nigeria cannot be cheaper is an oversimplification that does not hold up under scrutiny. Let me break this down in the simplest of terms: the cost of producing any product is the sum of its parts.

Consider making a pot of stew. If you get tomatoes and peppers for free, buy oil and salt at a discount, and purchase seasoning cubes at market price, your stew should be cheaper than someone who paid full price for all ingredients. This analogy applies to the cement industry as well.


Dangote Cement, the largest cement producer in Nigeria, has benefitted from import waivers for raw materials and equipment, access to limestone and laterite at minimal costs, and numerous tax concessions from various administrations. These substantial advantages should translate to more affordable cement prices for consumers. However, the current market prices of cement in Nigeria do not reflect these significant cost savings.

It is essential to recognize that cement in Nigeria should be cheaper. If Dangote Cement chose to reduce its prices, thereby slightly reducing its profit margins, it would still remain a highly profitable entity. Moreover, if Aliko Dangote’s net worth were to drop to $9 billion because he made cement more affordable for Nigerians, it would be a noble sacrifice. Wealth cannot be taken to the grave, but the legacy of contributing to the greater good and improving the standard of living for millions of people would be remembered.

while Dangote Cement is entitled to operate profitably, it is disingenuous to suggest that the current prices are the only viable option. With the substantial concessions and advantages granted to the company, cement in Nigeria could and should be more affordable. This would not only benefit the economy but also enhance the quality of life for countless Nigerians.

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