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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 2:36am On Aug 10, 2024
Puzzlehead:

You are drawing a conclusion about Nigerians that live in North America from one incidence where you saw some dark skinned individuals lining up for food delivery in adverse weather condition.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinio, but I must say that your sample size is very small and statistically insignificant. As such your inference do fall in the spectrum of "fallacy of generalization."

I may be wrong, but I sense you may be bored or have some downtime, hence trying to generate a conversation. This is a public forum, after all.

I will advise you to expand your circle so you can have a better insight about how Nigerians in North America work and live.

No doubt, most immigrants have an adjustment phase when they have to dig deep, be underemployed while they strive to build a career. The people you saw may be in that phase if truly they are Nigerians.
Having said that, I know quite a few Nigerians, and the bunch I know work hard and play even harder.

Some acquaintances of mine have been in Paris in the past 2 weeks watching the Olympics, some others just returned from Japan , another with his wife is planning to tour Europe in a few weeks. My humble self is on vacation, the reason I have downtime to respond to your writeup.

I believe the premise and the conclusion of your observation is faulty. But what do I know, we are just having a conversation in a faceless forum.

I had seen multiple incidents on more than 10 occasions of being pressured to conform to that lifestyle as well. I stopped going to Nigerian churches abroad mainly because of that pepper-them mentality.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 2:38am On Aug 10, 2024
[quote author=trium post=131427035][/quote]

I agree with you and I have no issues with lowly jobs to pay the bills, Living above your means and having to engage in extra jobs like delivery driving is what I am drawing emphasis on.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by WhiteIverson: 2:45am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


I agree with you and I have no issues with lowly jobs to pay the bills, Living above your means and having to engage in extra jobs like delivery driving is what I am drawing emphasis on.
My boss you still dey awake
Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by trium: 2:50am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


I agree with you and I have no issues with lowly jobs to pay the bills, Living above your means and having to engage in extra jobs like delivery driving is what I am drawing emphasis on.

You can't be so sure is what I am saying. I know Nigerians show off but the hustle is real abroad and most of them get a wakeup call

The funny part is that no one cares as much as the people trying to impress others. People should adjust to the reality of their lives, you can't be in Nigeria and be thinking like you are abroad and vice versa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNGhWdwkGks?feature=shared
Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 2:55am On Aug 10, 2024
trium:


You can't be so sure is what I am saying. I know Nigerians show off but the hustle is real abroad and most of them get a wakeup call

The funny part is that no one cares as much as the people trying to impress others. People should adjust to the reality of their lives, you can't be in Nigeria and be thinking like you are abroad and vice versa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNGhWdwkGks?feature=shared

You are right. Hopefully one day I will get a chance to get on a plane and japa to abroad. I will try to live within my means.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 2:56am On Aug 10, 2024
WhiteIverson:

My boss you still dey awake

I dey awake, village people nor allow me sleep.
Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by WhiteIverson: 3:01am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


I dey awake, village people nor allow me sleep.
Chai😂 my own na sapa
Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 3:02am On Aug 10, 2024
WhiteIverson:

Chai😂 my own na sapa

grin grin grin Sapa na my name na.
Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by WhiteIverson: 3:06am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


grin grin grin Sapa na my name na.
Lol the irony is mind boggling grin

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 3:27am On Aug 10, 2024
WhiteIverson:

Lol the irony is mind boggling grin

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by YoungBlackRico(m): 7:03am On Aug 10, 2024
CriminalTinubu:
One of the many offerings of Tinubu.

Since his election rigging many Nigerians have been forced to flee the country either voluntarily as slaves or forcibly as refugees.
The first four words of Op says this has nothing to do with Tinubu...but I'm not surprised a tad bit. grin

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by YoungBlackRico(m): 7:05am On Aug 10, 2024
Nigerians live above their means even in Nigeria...

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 7:07am On Aug 10, 2024
They want to always impress and then cry in secret. You can get away with it in Nigeria but abroad, you get burnt with crazy bills

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by oracle009(m): 8:04am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


Calm down tiger, I come in peace.

He asked a question... Please answer. Who solicited your advice? All these UK people moving to canada sef grin cheesy smiley wink

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 8:06am On Aug 10, 2024
oracle009:


He asked a question... Please answer. Who solicited your advice? ITK

You must be from my side of the country. A place where an unknown individual like you believe he can demand an answer from a random stranger on the internet.

Imagine the alacrity and brazeness.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sparrk007(m): 8:24am On Aug 10, 2024
Imagine when peeing your urine freezes before hitting the ground, you guys are really trying. I better manage Nigeria than to live in such places cool

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sharpsharp00123: 9:00am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


Use google my friend as I do not entertain insincere questions.

I lived and worked in this partplace for about 15years and did not just visit.
third reply n u still didn't answer d question

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by We4all: 9:01am On Aug 10, 2024
Puzzlehead:

You are drawing a conclusion about Nigerians that live in North America from one incidence where you saw some dark skinned individuals lining up for food delivery in adverse weather condition.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinio, but I must say that your sample size is very small and statistically insignificant. As such your inference do fall in the spectrum of "fallacy of generalization."

I may be wrong, but I sense you may be bored or have some downtime, hence trying to generate a conversation. This is a public forum, after all.

I will advise you to expand your circle so you can have a better insight about how Nigerians in North America work and live.

No doubt, most immigrants have an adjustment phase when they have to dig deep, be underemployed while they strive to build a career. The people you saw may be in that phase if truly they are Nigerians.
Having said that, I know quite a few Nigerians, and the bunch I know work hard and play even harder.

Some acquaintances of mine have been in Paris in the past 2 weeks watching the Olympics, some others just returned from Japan , another with his wife is planning to tour Europe in a few weeks. My humble self is on vacation, the reason I have downtime to respond to your writeup.

I believe the premise and the conclusion of your observation is faulty. But what do I know, we are just having a conversation in a faceless forum.

You fault his sample size and still had the audacity to talk about a few insignificant buddies who are either on vacation or planning to go on tours. The OP is very right about his assertion. Many Nigerians abroad who migrated for greener pastures are on this boat. They work overtime, hold up 3 jobs, just to keep up with the Joneses. This is not even something to argue about.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Sapasenator: 9:10am On Aug 10, 2024
Puzzlehead:

You are drawing a conclusion about Nigerians that live in North America from one incidence where you saw some dark skinned individuals lining up for food delivery in adverse weather condition.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinio, but I must say that your sample size is very small and statistically insignificant. As such your inference do fall in the spectrum of "fallacy of generalization."

I may be wrong, but I sense you may be bored or have some downtime, hence trying to generate a conversation. This is a public forum, after all.

I will advise you to expand your circle so you can have a better insight about how Nigerians in North America work and live.

No doubt, most immigrants have an adjustment phase when they have to dig deep, be underemployed while they strive to build a career. The people you saw may be in that phase if truly they are Nigerians.
Having said that, I know quite a few Nigerians, and the bunch I know work hard and play even harder.

Some acquaintances of mine have been in Paris in the past 2 weeks watching the Olympics, some others just returned from Japan , another with his wife is planning to tour Europe in a few weeks. My humble self is on vacation, the reason I have downtime to respond to your writeup.

I believe the premise and the conclusion of your observation is faulty. But what do I know, we are just having a conversation in a faceless forum.

The observation at the restaurant was a culmination of several cases over the years to make me arrive at my conclusions. I know our. People very well

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Juliearth(f): 10:04am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


When you have an extra bill to pay, you have no choice but to be a slave to multiple jobs. Most of these people even neglect their families working multiple jobs. I know individuals with big houses who never get to sleep in those houses, the husband is working night with other jobs and the wife is working day jobs. Even husbands and wives never get to meet each other as often as possible.
It's all about the bills here and it is a system designed to enslave you if you are not very smart.





Sounds depressing, but the reality is that most Nigerians prefer to tow this path rather than remain at home.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by dominique(f): 11:34am On Aug 10, 2024
Some of them take on these extra jobs so as to be able to have enough money to send to their relatives in Nigeria (or whichever 3rd world country they come from) and still have decent savings

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Ekugbeh(m): 11:39am On Aug 10, 2024
No one wants to live a relax life like you so chillax

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by malali: 11:40am On Aug 10, 2024
.The narrative shared serves as a poignant reminder of the pressure many immigrants face when adjusting to life in a new country, particularly in the highly capitalist environment of North America. The pursuit of material success, often driven by the need to impress peers, can lead to unsustainable lifestyles that prioritize outward appearances over genuine well-being.

It’s crucial to recognize that financial success doesn’t necessarily equate to happiness, especially when it comes at the cost of one’s mental and physical health. The pressure to maintain an image can be overwhelming, leading to unnecessary stress and long working hours that detract from the quality of life.

Supporting the Motion:


1. Mental and Physical Health: Working multiple jobs to sustain a high-cost lifestyle can lead to burnout, health issues, and strained relationships. It’s essential to prioritize well-being over the constant grind.
2. Financial Security: Living beyond one’s means is a recipe for financial disaster. The unpredictability of the economy, coupled with high interest rates on loans and mortgages, can quickly turn a seemingly manageable debt into a crippling burden.
3. Cultural Pressure: The pressure to conform to community standards or to project a certain image often leads individuals to make financial decisions that are not in their best interest. It’s vital to live authentically and make choices based on personal goals rather than societal expectations.
4. Long-term Sustainability: A lifestyle built on credit and loans is not sustainable in the long run. It’s essential to create a financial plan that allows for savings, investments, and an emergency fund, rather than relying on debt to maintain a certain standard of living.

Practical Tips to Beat the American Capitalist System

1. Embrace Minimalism: Focus on what truly matters by prioritizing needs over wants. Avoid accumulating material possessions that don’t add real value to your life.
2. Invest in Experiences, Not Things: Instead of spending money on the latest gadgets or luxury items, invest in experiences such as travel, learning new skills, or spending time with loved ones.
3. Build Multiple Income Streams: Don’t rely solely on your primary job. Explore side hustles, freelance work, or passive income opportunities that can provide financial security.
4. Buy Used or Refurbished: When purchasing big-ticket items like cars or electronics, consider buying used or refurbished. This can save money while still providing the functionality you need.
5. Negotiate Everything: From utility bills to car insurance, always negotiate for better rates. Many service providers are willing to offer discounts if you ask.
6. Start a Community Exchange: Organize or participate in a community exchange program where goods and services are traded without money. This can reduce costs and build a strong support network.
7. Delay Gratification: Practice patience by delaying purchases for 30 days. This helps avoid impulse buying and ensures that your financial decisions are well thought out.
8. Learn DIY Skills: Save money by learning to do things yourself, whether it’s home repairs, cooking, or even clothing alterations. The internet is full of tutorials and guides.
9. Utilize Public Resources: Make the most of public libraries, parks, and community centers for free or low-cost entertainment and resources.
10. Stay Connected to Your Roots: Remember your cultural values of community and support. Engage in mutual aid within your community to reduce reliance on the capitalist system.

it’s crucial for new immigrants to navigate the complexities of the American capitalist system with wisdom and restraint. By adopting a lifestyle that prioritizes financial prudence, personal well-being, and long-term stability, it’s possible to thrive without succumbing to the pressures of materialism.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by BigDawsNet: 11:40am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:
About three years ago. It was a bitter winter and I was dining at a restaurant around 11 pm in the night. It was very cold and if I remember correctly, it was -35 degrees Celsius below freezing point and if you pee outside, it freezes before hitting the ground. cold.

The restaurant was filled with everyone white except myself. I looked behind me and it was crowded with delivery drivers working for the delivery app, Skip the Dishes, waiting to pick up food orders. Nine delivery drivers and all black guys mostly Nigerian looking.

Imagine what it means to have to drive constantly in the bitter cold to deliver food when most people are either sleeping or enjoying themselves in a warm restaurant.

Some of these guys are even delivering with brand new SUVs purchased on credits and after a deeper dive, I came to realize our people here live mostly above their means to impress fellow Nigerians. They buy houses or cars they cannot afford and now have to work three jobs and drive on the side to maintain their fake lifestyles.

This is not a healthy way to live guys, learn to relax and enjoy yourself once in a while, do not live above your means and the fact that you are pre-authorized for that big mortgage, loan, or line of credit does not mean you have to accept.

Learn to live your life without trying to please or impress anyone and occasionally, take time off to have fun and enjoy yourself, take vacations.

Maybe in the state you live…

In newyork..: our nigerian people are managing their resources.. average houses, low budget sedan and SUV… even tho most of them get properties for Lekki… they don’t live To impress anyone

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Ejiakusmith(m): 11:40am On Aug 10, 2024
cool cool cool

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by ednut1(m): 11:41am On Aug 10, 2024
Why are you pitying them Let them live their lives. You will see some without good job going on 4 vacations in a year. Driving latest benz of 120k dols when salary their salary is 75k a year. grin

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by NothingDoMe: 11:41am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:


Enjoy the rest of your evening and live within your means ok.
You don dey give unsolicited advice again oh 😄

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Magabush1(m): 11:42am On Aug 10, 2024
Chairman , did you read the writeup,abi you need an interpreter. It's like the name of tinubu makes you high. The Op said 3 years ago. Was tinubu your president 3 years ago. Don't allow your hate for just one make you miss your blessings. Repent Bro and pray for a better Nigeria. God bless you 🙏




CriminalTinubu:
One of the many offerings of Tinubu.

Since his election rigging many Nigerians have been forced to flee the country either voluntarily as slaves or forcibly as refugees.

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Metrofox(m): 11:44am On Aug 10, 2024
you need to work on your writing .

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Pinkyposh(f): 11:46am On Aug 10, 2024
Some of these guys are even delivering with brand new SUVs purchased on credits and after a deeper dive, I came to realize our people here live mostly above their means to impress fellow Nigerians. They buy houses or cars they cannot afford and now have to work three jobs and drive on the side to maintain their fake lifestyles

When you say "our people here live mostly above their means to impress fellow Nigerian"
Do you mean in Nigeria or in North America?

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by Konjiboii: 11:46am On Aug 10, 2024
This OP you go too like talk.



Leave am for me

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Re: My observations about some of our japa brethren in North America by civilserva: 11:47am On Aug 10, 2024
Sapasenator:
About three years ago. It was a bitter winter and I was dining at a restaurant around 11 pm in the night. It was very cold and if I remember correctly, it was -35 degrees Celsius below freezing point and if you pee outside, it freezes before hitting the ground. cold.

The restaurant was filled with everyone white except myself. I looked behind me and it was crowded with delivery drivers working for the delivery app, Skip the Dishes, waiting to pick up food orders. Nine delivery drivers and all black guys mostly Nigerian looking.

Imagine what it means to have to drive constantly in the bitter cold to deliver food when most people are either sleeping or enjoying themselves in a warm restaurant.

Some of these guys are even delivering with brand new SUVs purchased on credits and after a deeper dive, I came to realize our people here live mostly above their means to impress fellow Nigerians. They buy houses or cars they cannot afford and now have to work three jobs and drive on the side to maintain their fake lifestyles.

This is not a healthy way to live guys, learn to relax and enjoy yourself once in a while, do not live above your means and the fact that you are pre-authorized for that big mortgage, loan, or line of credit does not mean you have to accept.

Learn to live your life without trying to please or impress anyone and occasionally, take time off to have fun and enjoy yourself, take vacations.
Are you jealous?

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