WannaHowzit:


She's gonna lose out on Miss Universe based on the lack of integrity if she's already your predetermined representative. One day you vow to hold SA principles, the next you're singing the praises of Nigeria.

That last line in her statement is gonna be her achilles' heel and South Africans are gonna exploit it. Imagine a shambolic MUN described in those terms, her lying will also take her down in Mexico - it's not just about beauty.

She's gonna explain tire leading up to Miss Universe and she'll drop out for the second time.

KLEINBASS:


I integrity doesn’t exist in Nigeria . The take pride in fraud a scams hence they don’t see anything wrong with the identity theft done by chidinma’s parents. They also dnt see wrong with illegal immigration . That is how shitholes think. Anyway with everything event that we host we have shown the that we are superior with quality. Be it soccer, miss Sa or anything

KLEINBASS:


I integrity doesn’t exist in Nigeria . The take pride in fraud a scams hence they don’t see anything wrong with the identity theft done by chidinma’s parents. They also dnt see wrong with illegal immigration . That is how shitholes think. Anyway with everything event that we host we have shown the that we are superior with quality. Be it soccer, miss Sa or anything

WannaHowzit:


@bolded 😂😂😂

The SA public could tell something wasn't right with this girl's story and eventually Home Affairs proved them right. Shambolic MUN sees nothing wrong with it and will ensure she wins, disadvantaging the ladies who've gone through due process for month, which is indeed indicative of what you described above.

Sepukku:


The SA public saw name they couldn't pronounce correctly and took the opportunity to project their hatred for "Nigerian arrogance" on this innocent child who was born and raised in South Africa.

The hatred grew even more when they saw her being celebrated by Nigerians and then began the questioning of her identity.

There is a concerted effort in South Africa to deprive foreigners legal or illegal of any opportunities and reserve them for themselves so please stop acting like this is not what it is. Protectionist sentiments at the detriment of the most vulnerable in your society.

WannaHowzit:


Most vulnerable

I thought word on the street in Nigeria was that Nigerians live and compete with whites in SA while us black slaves live in squalor. I was not aware you're "the most vulnerable in society" 🇳🇬

Sepukku:


Yes the most vulnerable- foreign nationals who have no voice or no way to fight back xenophobes.

KLEINBASS:
I integrity doesn’t exist in Nigeria . The take pride in fraud a scams hence they don’t see anything wrong with the identity theft done by chidinma’s parents. They also dnt see wrong with illegal immigration . That is how shitholes think. Anyway with everything event that we host we have shown the that we are superior with quality. Be it soccer, miss Sa or anything

WannaHowzit:


Nigerians, who "live and compete" with our "white masters" while we "black slaves live in squalor", "have no voice"?

WannaHowzit:
@bolded 😂😂😂

The SA public could tell something wasn't right with this girl's story and eventually Home Affairs proved them right. Shambolic MUN sees nothing wrong with it and will ensure she wins, disadvantaging the ladies who've gone through due process for month, which is indeed indicative of what you described above.

Magnoliaa:


Where? Her parents have been charged with anything yet?

WannaHowzit:


So she wasn't South African all along - what were you people wailing about? So she was fooling everyone - Miss Universe Pageant would find that interesting.

Do yourselves a favour and crown a clean girl instead of a predetermined one. This one comes with a lot of baggage including a mother involved in identity fraud. And now shambolic MUN misadvised her to lie in that last line of her acceptance letter.

Road to Mexico will be lit on social media 🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆

Sepukku:


She is South African and Nigerian but clearly you guys can't comprehend someone possessing dual identities.

WannaHowzit:
Preliminary findings found her Mozambican mom was involved in identity fraud to gain SA citizenship. If charged and successfully prosecuted it would mean Chidimma will also be stripped of her SA citizenship as one of your parents has to be South African when you're birthed in SA.

WannaHowzit:


As it stands she's not South African because none of her parents are South African - her Mozambican mom has been provisionally found to have committed identity fraud to become South African. The SA system is not like in the US - one of your parents has to be South African even if you're born in SA.

Sepukku:


I am very versed in your constitution and your immigration laws Mfethu. Please note in 2013, children of legal permanent residents acquired South African citizenship until your home affairs found a loophole in the law when they were taken to court severally to retract that provision in an attempt to deprive "foreigners" of that right.

My contention remains that psychologically that girl is a South African. Your laws determine her citizenship yes but she is one of you as much as she is one of us by heritage.

Magnoliaa:


Maybe I should rephrase my question, and I should add this: I am not taking your word for it.

Is there any proof of this "findings?"

WannaHowzit:


Blame her mother who committed identity fraud. Since you're well versed in matters you'd know Home Affairs would be very reluctant to have Chidimma become an exception as it will encourage more illegality which is exactly what leads to xenophobic attitudes.

Magnoliaa:


Maybe I should rephrase my question, and I should add this: I am not taking your word for it.

Is there any proof of this "findings?"

WannaHowzit:


She's gonna lose out on Miss Universe based on the lack of integrity if she's already your predetermined representative. One day you vow to hold SA principles, the next you're singing the praises of Nigeria.

That last line in her statement is gonna be her achilles' heel and South Africans are gonna exploit it. Imagine a shambolic MUN described in those terms, her lying will also take her down in Mexico - it's not just about beauty.

She's gonna explain tire leading up to Miss Universe and she'll drop out for the second time.

WannaHowzit:
@bolded 😂😂😂

The SA public could tell something wasn't right with this girl's story and eventually Home Affairs proved them right. Shambolic MUN sees nothing wrong with it and will ensure she wins, disadvantaging the ladies who've gone through due process for month, which is indeed indicative of what you described above.

Magnoliaa:


You're really just throwing words together at this point and hoping it logically holds up, and I find it a tad annoying.

You're presenting false premises and reaching false conclusions.

You DO NOT know for a fact that Chidinma's parents committed identity fraud, and therefore you cannot call out their integrity, Chidinma's integrity, and MUN's integrity.


Incase you do not also know, a dual citizenship (especially from the father's side) is very valid for most registrations here in Nigeria. Chidinma was bullied out of MissSA, your people taunted her to go and represent her country of origin, and MUN consequently invited her. Do you know what the MUN requirements for participation are, for you to conclude that Chidinma has flouted any of their laws?

Last I know, there are still 12 spots opened for the MUN. That is why you see a Yoruba representing an Igbo state, and an Igbo representing a Yoruba state, amongst all the contestants. Nobody was removed for Chidinma to be replaced. She was simply filled in a spot. The fuçk is wrong with that? It's really, simply just like a "scholarship". Especially given the xenophobic attacks and cyberbullying Chidinma was enmeshed in, I see nothing wrong with the offer to her, like so many anti- groups who put out an hand to anybody who has become a pariah of one group. She was bullied out. And it started LONG, LONG before your Home Affairs was involved, and the most they said was "we have reasons to believe a fraud may have been" bla bla bla. Also note that it said Chidinma "could not have been involved" as she was an infant at the time, and she has gone on to live in SA since then.

The MUN simply capitalised on the PR of the issue, and offered her a platform, using a spot she later on applied for, as stated in their public letter to her.

And finally, the contestants are voted for. The more popular they are, the better their chances of winning. It's a competition, and she'll not be sidelining anybody.

WannaHowzit:
https://sundayworld.co.za/news/miss-sa-contestant-chidimmas-mother-committed-identity-fraud/

WannaHowzit:
It's all over the internet. Google Home Affairs Schreiber Chidimma/Chidinma

Magnoliaa:
Look at this. This is from the 27th of July, more than a week before the DHA "investigation", WannaHowzit.


What was the reason for this petition being started against her, inspite of the statement and support of the MissSA's organisation for Chidinma?
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Magnoliaa:


Mtcheeeeewwwwwww.

And the proof/findings is here?

The stupid website will not let me read without submitting my email address for its newsletter, but I can guess what is contained in the post is not going to be much different from what is obtainable online.



Oh, thank you, I didn't know that! It's all over the Internet? I have been following the news through the radio in my hut over here. Right from the time the MissSA Twitter account posted her as a finalist.

Again, the Home Affairs statement was a tentative one at worst, placatory to SA Xenophobes at best.

Is this how lax an alleged crime is usually treated over there?

I reckon it took them less than 24 hours after being tagged to find "prima facie" evidence on Chidinma's parents, and it's been a week. How much longer would it take them to find hard, incontrovertible evidence?

Magnoliaa:


You're really just throwing words together at this point and hoping it logically holds up, and I find it a tad annoying.

You're presenting false premises and reaching false conclusions.

You DO NOT KNOW for a fact that Chidinma's parents committed identity fraud, and therefore you cannot call out their integrity, Chidinma's integrity, and MUN's integrity.


Incase you do not also know, a dual citizenship (especially from the father's side) is very valid for most registrations here in Nigeria. Chidinma was bullied out of MissSA, your people taunted her to go and represent her 'country of origin', and MUN consequently invited her. Do you know what the MUN requirements for participation are, for you to conclude that Chidinma has flouted any of their laws?

Last I know, there are still 12 spots opened for the MUN. Everyone is opened opened applying. That is why you see a Yoruba representing an Igbo state, and an Igbo representing a Yoruba state, amongst all the contestants (due to their limited numbers). Nobody was removed for Chidinma to be replaced. She was simply filled in a spot. The fuçk is wrong with that? It's really, simply just like a "scholarship". Especially given the xenophobic attacks and cyberbullying Chidinma was enmeshed in, I see nothing wrong with the offer to her, like so many anti- groups who put out an hand to anybody who has become a pariah of one group. She was bullied out. And it started LONG, LONG before your Home Affairs was involved, and the most they said was "we have reasons to believe a fraud may have been" bla bla bla. Also note that it said Chidinma "could not have been involved" as she was an infant at the time, and she has gone on to live in SA since then.

The MUN simply capitalised on the PR of the issue, and offered her a platform, using a spot she later on applied for, as stated in their public letter to her.

And finally, the contestants are voted for. The more popular they are, the better their chances of winning. It's a competition, and she'll not be sidelining anybody.

WannaHowzit:
I don't know how you guys operate over there but over here the government can't just go blabbing in public about the personal details of people until the matter appears before court and is tested over there. Did you expect to read the preliminary findings in the newspapers before the courts do? That only happens when things are leaked.

The fact that the Minister pronounced that something dodgy was found is enough, he wouldn't lie otherwise he'll be taken to court by civil society. So he's not appeasing us "xenophobes".

WannaHowzit:
Watch this show, it will answer a lot of your questions. They're hearing views from the public on the Chidimma matter and "what makes a South African"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCmxNK_vU-0?si=uQ3N29aRnDpWIHq9