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Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by djon78(m): 3:07pm On Sep 04
adioolayi:
Humans are not so easy to deal with...dem like lies and threats


Na now una dey understand

Once you tell people they can do Z they please that's license to do whatever they feel like doing


That s why there's government and law
To make human being obey
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by 36STATES: 3:09pm On Sep 04
[quote author=advanceDNA post=131842747]I don't get.. He told his members to stop paying tithes....yet started to complain when they stopped and the collections reduced..??

That is not what he said.

He said that you should not let anyone deceive you into paying tithe by claiming you would be going to hell or suffer some hardship if you don't pay tithe. He is saying that tithe should be out of your own free will, not through twisting, cajoling, threatening, faking miracles and telling unimaginable lies like Adeboye, Oyedipo Papa Jeremiah etc are doing.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Lovit(m): 3:10pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


You are looking for the word tithe...

Keep looking for it ... Even Jesus never condemned tithing but condemned the hypocrisy of the pharisees...

Can you tell me what is the "other undone"

23] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Can you explain the verse... Bible scholar... The other ones you didn't explain but beating around the bush ...

Also show me where the apostles were against tithing ....?

When Jesus made that statement, the people were still practicing the Jewish religion. The people he spoke to were Jews and not Christians

Christianity did not start while Jesus was here, but after he died.

A perfect example should be what the disciples did and how Paul and Peter ran the early church, they didn't collect tithes

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Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by OkCornel(m): 3:11pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


You are looking for the word tithe...

Keep looking for it ... Even Jesus never condemned tithing but condemned the hypocrisy of the pharisees...

Can you tell me what is the "other undone"

23] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Can you explain the verse... Bible scholar... The other ones you didn't explain but beating around the bush ...

Also show me where the apostles were against tithing ....?

Are the Pharisees and Scribes also Christians? Are they under the new covenant?

Does the new covenant require Christians to tithe?

Did God request for money as tithes in either the old or New Testament?

Can you explain Hebrews 13 v 10 for us please?
10. We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat.


Why are pastorpreneurs suspiciously quiet on the fact that God permits tithers to eat their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 23-27
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:13pm On Sep 04
Lovit:


When Jesus made that statement, the people were still practicing the Jewish religion. The people he spoke to were Jews and not Christians

Christianity did not start while Jesus was here, but after he died.

A perfect example should be what the disciples did and how Paul and Peter ran the early church, they didn't collect tithes

Thou shall not commit adultery and the other 9 commandments were not given during the time Christianity started ... So by your own ideology, Christians are not meant to follow them ... Lol

Cos tithing also started before Christianity started... You well?

The last time I checked the ten commandments for example wasn't given to the apostles but Moses... Lol

So tithes now shouldn't be followed cos it started before christianity and wasn't mentioned and the apostles didn't mentioned it
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by lebete3000: 3:14pm On Sep 04
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Olurondo: 3:14pm On Sep 04
Dr Abel Damina is a genuine man of God.He does not preach the transactional gospel that some preach,he speaks the truth!
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by ecomalchemistt(m): 3:15pm On Sep 04
Nah so
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by OkCornel(m): 3:17pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


Thou shall not commit adultery and the other 9 commandments were not given during the time Christianity started ... So by your own ideology, Christians are not meant to follow them ... Lol

Cos tithing also started before Christianity started... You well?

Nice try. Now read Romans 2 v 14-15. Even the gentiles knew the difference between good and evil without the need for Jewish laws.

Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from believers under the new covenant?

Where in the scriptures did God request for money as tithes?
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:18pm On Sep 04
OkCornel:


Are the Pharisees and Scribes also Christians? Are they under the new covenant?

Does the new covenant require Christians to tithe?

Did God request for money as tithes in either the old or New Testament?

Can you explain Hebrews 13 v 10 for us please?
10. We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat.


Why are pastorpreneurs suspiciously quiet on the fact that God permits tithers to eat their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 23-27



For example the 10 commandments given during the time of Moses, we shouldn't follow it as Christains too cos the Apostles were not given abi?

I am not digressing?

Please show me where tithing is a sin?

If you can't show me then piss off.

Pastorpreneurs are not my problem .... They awaits God's judgement... Not mine judgement or yours...
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Ennyjude(f): 3:19pm On Sep 04
Hmm
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:21pm On Sep 04
OkCornel:


Nice try. Now read Romans 2 v 14-15. Even the gentiles knew the difference between good and evil without the need for Jewish laws.

Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from believers under the new covenant?

Where in the scriptures did God request for money as tithes?

And where did God condemned tithes as you are condemning it right now... You said nice try ?

Where is tithing labelled a sin by God or the Apostles....

Let me tell you, I don't PAY tithes... I GIVE tithes...
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by advanceDNA: 3:23pm On Sep 04
ShogunNoName:


He wasn't complaining. drop the keyboard and go back to school so you get a proper education

Lol......He's not complaining..yet when offering reduce he came online to guilt trip his members that they dont love God for giving little..it is u don't don't know what complaining is..

If he's preaching cheerful giving...he should accept cheerfully...all these ranting is not necessary ....
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:24pm On Sep 04
OkCornel:


Nice try. Now read Romans 2 v 14-15. Even the gentiles knew the difference between good and evil without the need for Jewish laws.

Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from believers under the new covenant?

Where in the scriptures did God request for money as tithes?

Romans 2:14-15
[14]for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
[15]who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them

The Gentiles who do not have the law, by nature do things in the law...

By nature gentile do the things in the law...
So what are the things in the law?
Where do the gentiles got the law?
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by OkCornel(m): 3:25pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


For example the 10 commandments given during the time of Moses, we shouldn't follow it as Christains too cos the Apostles were not given abi?

I am not digressing?

Please show me where tithing is a sin?

If you can't show me then piss off.

Pastorpreneurs are not my problem .... They awaits God's judgement... Not mine judgement or yours...

Before God gave the 10 commandments, how did people distinguish good from evil? Your answer is in Romans 2 v 14-15

Ah… so the narrative has shifted to “show me where tithing is a sin”. Mr tithe collector, show us where

1. God requested for money as tithes. If you can’t then you are a liar and a thief. And that is a sin. You can’t disobey God and do the things the way you want.

2. Why are pastorprenuers suspiciously quiet on the fact that tithers can actually eat their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 23-27

3. Where did Jesus and the Apostles make tithing a requirement for believers under the new covenant?!

If you can’t answer these questions, then it’s clear you are a liar and a thief.

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Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Jayhome24: 3:25pm On Sep 04
You are not yet a Billionire in the ministry and we are not even sure you are real pastor in the first place and you are preaching against Tithe oga things go tight for you wallhi.

Tithe in my own thinking is not by force but don't preach stopping it, allow whoever wish to pay it to carry on its a choice.

It's biblical and was quoted with optional word "if".

Oga change your preaching or your ministry will collapse.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by OkCornel(m): 3:26pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


Romans 2:14-15
[14]for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
[15]who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them

The Gentiles who do not have the law, by nature do things in the law...

By nature gentile do the things in the law...
So what are the things in the law?
Where do the gentiles got the law?

Was the law ever given to the gentiles to start with?

Also read slowly, it says gentiles by nature “do things” in the law. Means they did some things in the law. Not that they kept the entire 613 laws of Moses.

Read slowly and understand. The gentiles have a conscience that could help them distinguish good from evil. That’s the point.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by sslcrypt: 3:27pm On Sep 04
advanceDNA:
I don't get.. He told his members to stop paying tithes....yet started to complain when they stopped and the collections reduced..??



Please read and comprehend. He mentioned don't tithe because you want the devourer to come your way. Tithe because you honestly love God and trust in his riches and glory. So technically he's saying members tithe because of fear and he's not far from the truth.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by TheChameleon: 3:27pm On Sep 04
Segzy19:

Segzy19 to his useless homosexual father and his spermbank wh0re mother
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Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Hotice085: 3:28pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


And where did God condemned tithes as you are condemning it right now... You said nice try ?

Where is tithing labelled a sin by God or the Apostles....

Let me tell you, I don't PAY tithes... I GIVE tithes...



Are you a levite or are you paying it to a levite?

Paying or giving tithe all na the same thing and Tithe is dead
Stop making God look like idols who demands transactions before he answers you

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Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:28pm On Sep 04
OkCornel:


Was the law ever given to the gentiles to start with?


And did I say it was given to the gentiles? And since it wasn't given to the gentiles ... Is it right for a Christian to Kill or commit adultery?

I am asking ...cos same verse you quoted said by nature the gentiles follow the law...
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by advanceDNA: 3:28pm On Sep 04
36STATES:
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Welldone..u left out the part where he accused and guilt trip is members that they dont love God because what they give is now small compared to before....
He's just feeling entitled, because they ddnt give up to what he needs

..If tithe and all other giving should be cheerful is he expecting cheerful must be plenty.??.... He should accept whatever comes cheerfully too. All these ranting is not necessary...I don't like when pastors can't comport themselves ...
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Verydarkhearted: 3:29pm On Sep 04
The same way Jesus Christ improvised during his time in the bible pastors should learn to do same. If God truly called him to ministry his church acc will never go broke.. moreover he can borrow from other churches Abi church no Dey help church ?? Lol.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by sslcrypt: 3:29pm On Sep 04
Yugoslavia247:
Some people dont read to understand.

A bulk of tithers give because of fear that things will be tight for them not because of intent to please God or move the kingdom of God to the next level.

The moment he opened their eyes they showed their true self.

So if you are tithing to have things happen to you or not happen to you.

Better re evaluate yourself.

That is why most tithers travel out and stop going to church. Because no fear of the unknown

You are very attentive and correct. Most people here don't understand what they read. And I agree that majority of tithes is out of fear.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by blahc007: 3:30pm On Sep 04
axglide:
In Genesis 14 v 18-20, it was recorded that Abraham paid Tithe to Melchizedek. If any believer today is a child of Abraham and claims that the blessings of Abraham is his or hers, then you shouldn’t dispute that paying tithe is actually Biblical and still relevant till tomorrow.

Genesis 14v18-20
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
And this was done before the law o...

Yet people keep basing tithing on the law of moses that came over 400 years after.

Well, in my own opinion and relationship with God, I believe what differentiate babes and adults is REVELATION...not from the pastor, but from the written word through the Holy Spirit.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:30pm On Sep 04
Hotice085:


Are you a levite or are you paying it to a levite?

Paying or giving tithe all na the same thing and Tithe is dead
Stop making God look like idols who demands transactions before he answers you

Tithing is not meant for God to answer you... God is supreme ... Many gives to God to appreciate Him in their lives .... 10percent is too small for God... Do you get that.?

Many gives more than the 10%.... So who are you to say it is not right when God Himself didn't condemn tithing?
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by OkCornel(m): 3:31pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


And where did God condemned tithes as you are condemning it right now... You said nice try ?

Where is tithing labelled a sin by God or the Apostles....

Let me tell you, I don't PAY tithes... I GIVE tithes...


Mr man, show us where God requested for money as tithes.

Since you insist on tithing, open the scriptures and show us where God asked for money as tithe in the instructions for tithing.
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by OkCornel(m): 3:32pm On Sep 04
BeigJawnson:


Tithing is not meant for God to answer you... God is supreme ... Many gives to God to appreciate Him in their lives .... 10percent is too small for God... Do you get that.?

Many gives more than the 10%.... So who are you to say it is not right when God Himself didn't condemn tithing?

10% of what exactly did God request as tithe?

Book, chapter and verse please
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:32pm On Sep 04
Hotice085:


Are you a levite or are you paying it to a levite?

Paying or giving tithe all na the same thing and Tithe is dead
Stop making God look like idols who demands transactions before he answers you

Can you explain these verse and let's us see if it is meant for the Levite's

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1 Corinthians 9:11-13
[11]If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things?
[12]If others are partakers of this right over you, are we not even more? Nevertheless we have not used this right, but endure all things lest we hinder the gospel of Christ.
[13]Do you not know that those who minister the holy things eat of the things of the temple, and those who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar?
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by AguluLiar: 3:33pm On Sep 04
Ezemann:
You guys will just go dig an old video and make a post about about it. that video is not recent. in my state, Abel Damina's messages are broadcasted in 5 radio stations and for a time frame of 2 hours each. calculate how much is going into that alone, not to talk of other platforms. he does not collect tithes and he's not begging any one either.

We don't need his useless teachings.
He should go and get a job and stop living off gullible people
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by Hotice085: 3:33pm On Sep 04
Jayhome24:
You are not yet a Billionire in the ministry and we are not even sure you are real pastor in the first place and you are preaching against Tithe oga things go tight for you wallhi.

Tithe in my own thinking is not by force but don't preach stopping it, allow whoever wish to pay it to carry on its a choice.

It's biblical and was quoted with optional word "if".

Oga change your preaching or your ministry will collapse.


Collapsed for where, bloggers go bring old videos and una go read nonsense
Look for the video and watched it to the end and see how miracles de happen to ministry wey de follow God
Re: We Sacked Staff, Shut Down TV– Damina On Struggles After Members Stopped Tithing by BeigJawnson(m): 3:35pm On Sep 04
OkCornel:


10% of what exactly did God request as tithe?

Book, chapter and verse please

Proverbs 3:9 (NIV) says, “Honor the Lord with your wealth, with the first fruits of all your crops.”

Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.


SO ALSO SHOW ME WHERE TITHING IS CONDEMNED IN THE BIBLE BY GOD?

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