Padipadi:

Ask Ifa or Google. D*mb morafuck*ng id*ot!
Sentences can be passed with different constructions. Many people wrote the Bible so it's normal if they have different use of sentences but kept narrating same story. A nice example is gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John or Chromicles and Kings. All books wrote about similar characters. That's the thing mumu islamists like you failed to grasp. You especially v misquoted, misinterpreted the Bible secerally. Whoever is doing you from ya village to give you poor brain has done a good job. Go for medulla upgrade.

Ya mofo imams are littering internet spewing jargons and dishing misinformation about Allah's people all cos of jealousy. Una go pick a flimsy reason like biblical interpretation and lampoon it as if all of you no go school.
Since it has been established that all ya rants and blasphemy about Christianity is based on jealousy, you ll be ignored till you meet ya 72 virgins.
If you aren't original, you can never be the original. Never in ya life quote me again cos Allah dey vex for ya stupidit y!

AntiChristian:


Fake product! Your ignorance will always amaze me!

What's your correct translation of 1 Samuel 13:1 and what do you see to its representation in the Vulgate, the Hebrew, the Septuagint and also the Chaldee? There's also an Hexeplar version!

1 Samuel 13:1
New International Version
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

New Living Translation
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned for forty-two years.

English Standard Version
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel,

Berean Standard Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty-two years.

King James Bible
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,

New King James Version
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,

New American Standard Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned for forty-two years over Israel.

NASB 1995
Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty two years over Israel.

NASB 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

Legacy Standard Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty-two years over Israel.

Amplified Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty-two years over Israel.

Christian Standard Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned forty-two years over Israel.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Saul was 30 years old when he became king, and he reigned 42 years over Israel.

American Standard Version
Saul was [ forty ] years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And when Shaul reigned one or two years in his kingdom over Israel

Contemporary English Version
Saul was a young man when he became king, and he ruled Israel for two years.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Saul was a child of one year when he began to reign, and he reigned two years over Israel.

English Revised Version
Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign; and he reigned two years over Israel.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Saul was [thirty] years old when he became king, and he was king of Israel [forty-two] years.

International Standard Version
Saul was 30 years old when he began to reign, and he ruled for 42 years over Israel.

JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

Literal Standard Version
Saul [is] a son of [[thirty]] years in his reigning, and he has reigned over Israel [forty]-two years,

Majority Standard Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty-two years.

New American Bible
[Saul was. . .years old when he became king and he reigned. . .-two years over Israel.]

NET Bible
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

New Revised Standard Version
Saul was�.�.�. years old when he began to reign; and he reigned�.�.�. and two years over Israel.

New Heart English Bible
Saul was� years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

Webster's Bible Translation
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,

World English Bible
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty-two years.

Young's Literal Translation
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel,

AntiChristian:


The picture you attached actually look like you! Is it one of your family members?

Tell me how all of these below look exactly like one another?

Babashifawu:
Salam @antichristian,

I’d like to ask a question about something that gets me thinking quite a lot.

Some of the Christian folks will pray for a person and they get some sort of revelation/inspiration about the present and past happenings of the individual and they are also able to tell the individual what to do and what not to do so as to get their prayers answered by the Almighty.

My question is that: where do these Christian folks get this revelation/inspiration from ? And do we have this kind of revelation/inspiration in Islam also ?

Thank you

CC: @empiree

Antlislaam:


Did you give room for Holy Spirit in islam?

AntiChristian:


Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel in Islam!

Babashifawu:
Salam @antichristian,

I’d like to ask a question about something that gets me thinking quite a lot.

Some of the Christian folks will pray for a person and they get some sort of revelation/inspiration about the present and past happenings of the individual and they are also able to tell the individual what to do and what not to do so as to get their prayers answered by the Almighty.

My question is that: where do these Christian folks get this revelation/inspiration from ? And do we have this kind of revelation/inspiration in Islam also ?

Thank you

CC: @empiree

AntiChristian:


Good question!
Firstly, fortune telling is not only common among some Christians but also some so-called Babalawo Muslims. Fortune telling is actually the deed of a disbeliever in Allah! Anyone who does it is a disbeliever in Islam.

Secondly to answer your question. Some people asked the Prophet (salallahu alayhi wasalam) a similar question:
Al-Bukhaari (6213) and Muslim (2228) narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: Some people asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about soothsayers. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to them: “They are nothing.” They said: O Messenger of Allaah, sometimes they tell us something that turns out to be true. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “That is a word from the jinn that the jinni snatches, and he cackles it into the ear of his familiar as a hen cackles, but they mix more than a hundred lies with it.”

Al-Bukhaari (4701) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When Allaah decrees a matter in heaven, the angels beat their wings in submission to His words, making a sound like a chain striking a rock. When the fear is banished from their hearts, they say, What is it that your Lord has said? They say: The truth, and He is the Most High, the Most Great. Then the one who is listening out hears that, and those who are listening out are standing one above the other” – Sufyaan [one of the narrators] demonstrated with his hand, holding it vertically with the fingers outspread. – “So he hears what is said and passes it on to the one below him, and that one passes it to the one who is below him, and so on until it reaches the lips of the soothsayer or fortune-teller. Maybe the meteor will hit him before he can pass anything on, or maybe he will pass it on before he is hit. He tells a hundred lies alongside it, but it will be said, Did he not tell us that on such and such a day, such and such would happen? So they believe him because of the one thing which was heard from heaven.” i.e., he is believed because of the one true word that was heard from heaven and passed on to the fortune teller.

So in summary, there's actually no prayer but a contact with the "Jinn" they already have contract with to fulfil their own end of the contract! And Allah has promised Shaytan He will grant him respite till the day of resurrection! Shaytan too is from the Jinn kind! So the soothsayer received information from the Jinn mixed with a lot of falsehood and passes it to the client!

We don't have such in Islam as only Allah know the unseen!
Claiming to know the unseen or believing someone who makes such claim is Kufr (disbelief) in Islam.
Muslims are only advised to do Istikhara for guidance on anything they want to do!
Allah will make it smooth for them if such will be beneficial in this world and in the next!

And lastly, as you know, there's no one Jesus or any of his disciples prayed for to see their past/future on their request like they do! So it is not even established in their so-called book! It is the same thing some Muslims do using Rosary beads, Sand on a tray or even Qur'an or other items! Prophet Muhammad does not know the future except what was revealed of it to him! And he doesn't know it until it was revealed!

Same as Jesus and every other Prophets that got revelation!

AntiChristian:


Good question!
Firstly, fortune telling is not only common among some Christians but also some so-called Babalawo Muslims. Fortune telling is actually the deed of a disbeliever in Allah! Anyone who does it is a disbeliever in Islam.

Secondly to answer your question. Some people asked the Prophet (salallahu alayhi wasalam) a similar question:
Al-Bukhaari (6213) and Muslim (2228) narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: Some people asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about soothsayers. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to them: “They are nothing.” They said: O Messenger of Allaah, sometimes they tell us something that turns out to be true. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “That is a word from the jinn that the jinni snatches, and he cackles it into the ear of his familiar as a hen cackles, but they mix more than a hundred lies with it.”

Al-Bukhaari (4701) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When Allaah decrees a matter in heaven, the angels beat their wings in submission to His words, making a sound like a chain striking a rock. When the fear is banished from their hearts, they say, What is it that your Lord has said? They say: The truth, and He is the Most High, the Most Great. Then the one who is listening out hears that, and those who are listening out are standing one above the other” – Sufyaan [one of the narrators] demonstrated with his hand, holding it vertically with the fingers outspread. – “So he hears what is said and passes it on to the one below him, and that one passes it to the one who is below him, and so on until it reaches the lips of the soothsayer or fortune-teller. Maybe the meteor will hit him before he can pass anything on, or maybe he will pass it on before he is hit. He tells a hundred lies alongside it, but it will be said, Did he not tell us that on such and such a day, such and such would happen? So they believe him because of the one thing which was heard from heaven.” i.e., he is believed because of the one true word that was heard from heaven and passed on to the fortune teller.

So in summary, there's actually no prayer but a contact with the "Jinn" they already have contract with to fulfil their own end of the contract! And Allah has promised Shaytan He will grant him respite till the day of resurrection! Shaytan too is from the Jinn kind! So the soothsayer received information from the Jinn mixed with a lot of falsehood and passes it to the client!

We don't have such in Islam as only Allah know the unseen!
Claiming to know the unseen or believing someone who makes such claim is Kufr (disbelief) in Islam.
Muslims are only advised to do Istikhara for guidance on anything they want to do!
Allah will make it smooth for them if such will be beneficial in this world and in the next!

And lastly, as you know, there's no one Jesus or any of his disciples prayed for to see their past/future on their request like they do! So it is not even established in their so-called book! It is the same thing some Muslims do using Rosary beads, Sand on a tray or even Qur'an or other items! Prophet Muhammad does not know the future except what was revealed of it to him! And he doesn't know it until it was revealed!

Same as Jesus and every other Prophets that got revelation!

Babashifawu:
Thank you very much for this great explanation accompanied with evidences from the Hadith of our beloved Prophet @antichiristian

Your response really did Justice to my question. Now i know better.

One more question please, what do you think about muslims communicating or becoming friends with Muslim pious Jinns and Ruhanniyahs (which are believed to emit from plenty Dhikr) ? Thank you.

RightChanneI:


But Muhammad said he got inspiration to marry his adopted son's wife, so why did you said you don't have inspiration/revelation in islam

AntiChristian:


When we say Jesus is a Messenger of Allah then that means Allah sent revelations to him!

Same as Moses, Noah and Muhammad!

They are Prophets and Messengers because of their revelations!

The context you are responding to is that of the soothsayer/fortuneteller which is not the same as revelation!

RightChanneI:


You mean Muhammad was a soothsayer/fortuneteller for claiming he got inspiration from allah to married his adopted son's wife?

AntiChristian:


The natural way Allah created us is for us humans to relate with one another and Jinns to relate with themselves! That's why ordinarily we can't see them! However, Allah has granted a few Selected among His slaves to be able to communicate with them and order them. Such example is Prophet Sulaiman.

Often many people relate with the Jinn by directing some form of worship to them or giving them something in exchange for their services!

Allah says (interpretation of the meanings):
“And on the Day when He will gather them (all) together (and say): ‘O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men,’ and their awliya (friends and helpers) amongst men will say: ‘Our Lord! We benefited one from the other, but now we have reached our appointed term which You did appoint for us.’ He will say: ‘The Fire be your dwelling place, you will dwell therein forever, except as Allah may will. Certainly your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing.’ And thus We do make the Zaalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers) awliya (supporters and helpers) of one another (in committing crimes), because of that which they used to earn.” [Qur'an 6:128]

“And verily, there were men among mankind who took shelter with the males among the jinn, but they (jinn) increased them (mankind) in sin and transgression.” [Qur'an 72:6]

Jinns are powerful creations of Allah and they are like us having Muslims, disbelievers, wicked ones, strict ones, etc.
And it's better one does not pass his boundary!

And lastly, i have never heard of the Prophet (salallahu alayhi wasalam) nor his companions having the need for a Jinn friend!
Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 3:31)

AntiChristian:


Are the Torah and Injeel soothsaying too or didn't they predict future events or was it soothsaying when Yahweh said he will give David wives?

Abeg carry your hypocrisy comot my mentions!

RightChanneI:


To know what hypocrite means, tell me where Jehovah ever tell anyone to marry his adopted son's wife as Muhammad did to his adopted son by marrying his wife?

AntiChristian:


How is that related to anything here? First it was soothsaying, now it's the Prophet's marriage, what next? He married who Allah told him to marry! If you have any problem with it hug the next available transformer!

Abeg your stupid questions too much!

I should be looking for where Jehovah told someone to marry adopted son in the Bible as if you didn't see the weird marriage in Genesis 38 where Er and Onan were killed for weird reasons!