This seems to be a trend

From Adeyinka Grandson to Simon Ekpa to the Igbo woman threatening with poison, to the Yoruba guy insulting the Oba of Benin...

Depending on who you ask, you might also include Nnamdi Kanu and Reno Omokri on the list.

These are people that left Nigeria, they are usually disconnected from the social life of the average Nigerian, they live in a better country, they have access to good education and infrastructure...

Yet in a bizarre twist they seem to even become more toxic and promote more poison than even the poor uneducated Nigerians living in the country.

Could there be psychological forces at play? maybe loneliness?

Op they usually face racism there so they have to throw some remnants here as tribalism

Na only dollars una dey expect from them abi? Think again

Tough questions. For me, I think it's more like exporting our samples, what we are already. And being in stable economies, they have access to stable electricity, internet connection, and enough leisure time to express the typical Nigerian in them.

A lots of people outside Nigeria go a lots so they just taking out thire anger on tinubu.

There is a saying that goes " a monkey will always swing on trees even if you take it to America ".

They are out of Nigeria but Nigeria still has a duplex in their head.

Simon Ekpa is not a tribalist.
He is a man fighting for his people being marginalised for eons. He has every right to lambast those he perceive to be the source of these injustices.

The real tribalists are those who can not see the injustices being churned out by the Nigerian state against some sections of the country, simply because they're not at the ones at the receiving end.

Bola tinubu did more under NADECO for the Southwest during the Abacha regime.

MadPolitician:
Simon Ekpa is not a tribalist.
He is a man fighting for his people being marginalised for eons. He has every right to lambast those he perceive to be the source of these injustices.

The real tribalists are those who can not see the injustices being churned out by the Nigerian state against some sections of the country, simply because they're not at the ones at the receiving end.

Bola tinubu did more under NADECO for the Southwest during the Abacha regime.

The best part is that he is encouraging population reduction

AmalaAtiEwedu:

The best part is that he is encouraging population reduction

Amongst the Nigerian army?

MadPolitician:

Amongst the Nigerian army?

You for check how posting be first

They can see what you can't.

FourQu:
Op they usually face racism there so they have to throw some remnants here as tribalism

Na only dollars una dey expect from them abi? Think again

Good point, but some might make the opposite case, that experiencing racism abroad should make them realize that Blacks all look the same to white racists, so this should make them see all blacks as one.

danvon:


Good point, but some might make the opposite case, that experiencing racism abroad should make them realize that Blacks all look the same to white racists, so this should make them see all blacks as one.

True true 👍🏾

But remember were dealing with 'black africans' here

Our mentality isn't as normal as others

danvon:


Good point, but some might make the opposite case, that experiencing racism abroad should make them realize that Blacks all look the same to white racists, so this should make them see all blacks as one.

If whites decide the sky are made of ice cream should blacks believe the sky is made of icecream or was this your slavery logic a joke?

danvon:
This seems to be a trend

From Adeyinka Grandson to Simon Ekpa to the Igbo woman threatening with poison, to the Yoruba guy insulting the Oba of Benin...

Depending on who you ask, you might also include Nnamdi Kanu and Reno Omokri on the list.

These are people that left Nigeria, they are usually disconnected from the social life of the average Nigerian, they live in a better country, they have access to good education and infrastructure...

Yet in a bizarre twist they seem to even become more toxic and promote more poison than even the poor uneducated Nigerians living in the country.

Could there be psychological forces at play? maybe loneliness?

it’s monetary. Many of them are not doing well abroad and with the cheap internet and electricity its easy to do. Kanu had no tangible work in Uk but when he started ipob he was getting as much as 100k dollars per show/speech. Adeyinka grandson is an illegal immigrant in uk, made money from the book and donations to his Young Yorubas for Freedom.

Money and power is the motivation dont be fooled

Two reasons.
Money and Freedom.

Money issue has already been tackled by ednut1 above.
The freedom from consequences motivates those goons to say whatever they want,
depending on the country and get away with it.

Grandson is an exception that got convicted, because he was too specific in his hate speech.

In Nigeria here, such broadcasts will get the owner in legal trouble regardless of the political
protections they have.

MadPolitician:
Simon Ekpa is not a tribalist.
He is a man fighting for his people being marginalised for eons. He has every right to lambast those he perceive to be the source of these injustices.

Bola tinubu did more under NADECO for the Southwest during the Abacha regime.

First, every Nigerian is a tribalist, especially those from mono-ethnic homes who lived in their dominant territories for many years till adulthood. Two, Ekpa is a profound and unintelligent illiterate. So the aspect of fighting for his people is baseless as his fights have caused more harm and havoc than good to the same people.

To add to what Ednut stated, another theory could be that after they experienced racism from the dominant group in where they live, they become angry and annoyed that they pour it on ethnic rivals in their home countries as a means of fighting back that internalised anger. Some of these people are Nairalanders who espouse rabid tribalism, but cry out everyday of the need to fight the white man.

ednut1:
it’s monetary. Many of them are not doing well abroad and with the cheap internet and electricity its easy to do. Kanu had no tangible work in Uk but when he started ipob he was getting as much as 100k dollars per show/speech. Adeyinka grandson was an illegal (still is) immigrant in uk, made money from the book and donations to his think yoruba foundation.

Money and power is the motivation dont be fooled

What's proof do you have that Adeyinka Grandson owns Think Yoruba foundation?

Young Yorubas for Freedom (YYF) is what Adeyinka Grandson owns.

Think Yoruba first wey dey bring Royal Fathers to London for events and having former governors like Gbenga Daniels attend their events is not affiliated to Adeyinka Grandson.

Example

Gerrard59:

First, every Nigerian is a tribalist, especially those from mono-ethnic homes who lived in their dominant territories for many years till adulthood. Two, Ekpa is a profound and unintelligent illiterate. So the aspect of fighting for his people is baseless as his fights have caused more harm and havoc than good to the same people.

Your tortured opinion!
Nelson Mandela was once called a terrorist.
His people are not complaining, stop crying more than the "bereaved".

chopnaira:

What's proof do you have that Adeyinka Grandson owns Think Yoruba foundation?

Young Yorubas for Freedom (YYF) is what Adeyinka Grandson owns.

Think Yoruba first wey dey bring Royal Fathers to London for events and having former governors like Gbenga Daniels attend their events is not affiliated to Adeyinka Grandson.

i was referring to YYF. Got the name wrong. Edited now

@OP I'm worried about your warped logic.. who told you it's poor uneducated Nigerians that are living in Nigeria?. please correct that wrong perception.
Most of those abroad dwellers you mentioned are probably struggling to make ends meet and have devised a way of making money out of gullible Nigerians through youtube views and tiktok posts. Kanu was rumored to be working in a club in UK earning peanuts till he started radio biafra that made him cool cash.

MadPolitician:

Your tortured opinion!
Nelson Mandela was once called a terrorist.
His people are not complaining, stop crying more than the "bereaved".

LOL! So, I as an Igbo man who sees his region being decimated by thugs led by another thug in faraway Finland now cry more than the bereaved? So complaining that the antics of a man whose words/directives cause harm to Igbo's interests (called for sit-at-home during the elections) now makes me a crier than the bereaved? A man who isn't tactical in relating with ethnic minorities abut to Igbos/Southeast does it better, right?

This was how I objected to approving sit-at-home when it was first announced. I was in a commercial vehicle heading home from Imo. Myself and one other lad were the ones who said that a sit-at-home would do more harm to the Southeast interests than good. We complained that once implemented, it cannot be cancelled because people will take advantage of it. I lamented that such a policy would affect businesses and livelihoods. The other lad vowed to leave the region for Lagos or Port-Harcourt if implemented. We warned o! But the rest of the passengers and driver were elated for a sit-at-home.

Look at Imo today? A budding Somalia. Fortunately for Imo, and unlike Somalia, it has beautiful women. Else, nothing good comes out from there. Posterity will judge me, not bereavement, that I warned against it.

But hey, I won't cry more than the beavered.

Afons who hitherto were at the frontiers of a better Nigeria or so we thought got into power and
gone haywire with the quest for domination of other Nigerians even abroad , that’s the problem

Gerrard59:

LOL! So, I as an Igbo man who sees his region being decimated by thugs led by another thug in faraway Finland now cry more than the bereaved? So complaining that the antics of a man whose words/directives cause harm to Igbo's interests (called for sit-at-home during the elections) now makes me a crier than the bereaved? A man who isn't tactical in relating with ethnic minorities abut to Igbos/Southeast does it better, right?

This was how I objected to approving sit-at-home when it was first announced. I was in a commercial vehicle heading home from Imo. Myself and one other lad were the ones who said that a sit-at-home would do more harm to the Southeast interests than good. We complained that once implemented, it cannot be cancelled because people will take advantage of it. I lamented that such a policy would affect businesses and livelihoods. The other lad vowed to leave the region for Lagos or Port-Harcourt if implemented. We warned o! But the rest of the passengers and driver were elated for a sit-at-home.

Look at Imo today? A budding Somalia. Fortunately for Imo, and unlike Somalia, it has beautiful women. Else, nothing good comes out from there. Posterity will judge me, not bereavement, that I warned against it.

But hey, I won't cry more than the beavered.

You have said a lot without saying anything really as to what needs to be done to correct the perceived marginalisation of the south-east. And thats how i decode who is who here.

All you want is the "peace"! The peace of the grave yard. Everyone should just stop protesting because protests will harm the protesters, abi? According to your types, everyone should stop talking because talking will only harm the talker and not the government. Everyone should stop complaining because it of no use, bla bla bla.. Basically they all "should go to court".

So what needs to be done? How do you confront a rampaging federal government? How do you force them to treat the former Eastern Nigeria equally? No idea? Just criticising other peoples ideas? You will go "talk to your representatives at the National Assembly to bring up a bill" bla bla bla, right?

You gat jokes, bro

flokii:
@OP I'm worried about your warped logic.. who told you it's poor uneducated Nigerians that are living in Nigeria?. please correct that wrong perception

I didn't mean all Nigerians are poor and uneducated, I meant that people tend to assume that uneducated poor Nigerians are usually brainwashed by the wealthier elites and become tribalist as a result.

The hungry idiyot knows he is reducing nigeria army. Thanks for your reply to him.

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MadPolitician:


You have said a lot without saying anything really as to what needs to be done to correct the perceived marginalisation of the south-east. And thats how i decode who is who here. All you want is the "peace"! The peace of the grave yard. Everyone should just stop protesting because protests will harm the protesters, abi? According to your types, everyone should stop talking because talking will only harm the talker and not the government. Everyone should stop complaining because it of no use, bla bla bla.. Basically they all "should go to court". So what needs to be done? How do you confront a rampaging federal government? How do you force them to treat the former Eastern Nigeria equally? No idea? Just criticising other peoples ideas? You will go "talk to your representatives at the National Assembly to bring up a bill" bla bla bla, right? You gat jokes, bro

While I agree with you about marginalisation, sit-at-home wasn't the best way out of it as it has been hijacked. Has it not? MNK approach was much better, ditto ESN protecting people's lands. But the rhetoric and policies by Ekpa and his cohorts have not done any good to our people and region.

danvon:


I didn't mean all Nigerians are poor and uneducated, I meant that people tend to assume that uneducated poor Nigerians are usually brainwashed by the wealthier elites and become tribalist as a result.

If uneducated Nigerians are vicious tribalists, one can understand. But what do you say of university educated Nigerians up to senior levels in corporate positions or policymaking being vicious tribalists? The truth is: the average Nigerian is a tribalist regardless of education or exposure. Take it like that.

Go Canada

E go shock you.

I have always compared how Indians and other Asians collaborate and support themselves. How they practically deploy maneuvering and maneuvers to conquer and dominate sectors like the retail sector and so on. They intentionally dominate geographical neighborhoods and such that over time their population is so great they produce a candidate for City Council Positions.

An Indian gets a job, places himself and themselves in HR. Employ their people and within 1 to 2 years they are practically running the organization. Practically every weekend during summer, you see them meet at the backyards of another Indian with barbecues and so on. Kids are playing. Parents are discussing. You will know these ones are United and discussing their problems and progress in diaspora.

An Arab comes with his family. They share resources, lift each other up. Wives share cars to go out shopping. They invest in Petrol stations, mechanic shops, handyman business, etc. Before you know it, they replicate the same model. They meet in parks. Wives bring meals. The kids have fun. The boys many wear C. Rolando Jerseys (hilariously) and play football. The men gather and discuss. You will know.

A Nigerian is still asking indirectly in 2024 to know if you go to Redeemed or Chosen and if you are Yoruba or Igbo or Niger Deltan to decide what to do with you. A Nigerian sees you coming and changes direction. A Nigerian tells their kids to go play with white kids and avoid the black. Real story. Nothing is being made up here. A Nigerian sees you as a new comer and sees a good victim to scam and ripoff! Anywhere we take this religious and ethnic nonsense to, we hardly prosper. Because the religion we practice, we do it and twist it to suit our wickedness and devil that is in us, so much so that it is for divisive, leads us to perpetrate wickedness and inhumanity.

MOST NIGERIANS DISTRUSTS MOST NIGERIANS. AND MOST NIGERIANS WANT TO WIN AGAINST EVERY NIGERIAN IN THE RACE OF SUCESS AND PROGRESS SO THAT THEY CAN SHOW IT OFF DURING “NIGERIAN DAY” CELEBRATION IN CANADA AND SHOW OFF THE NEW CAR AT CHURCH ON SUNDAY. SO THAT THEY CAN PEPPER THEM AND POST IT ON THEIR STATUS TO ALSO PEPPER THEIR KIN BACK IN NIGERIA. The motivation is always to “rub it in their faces”, “don’t let them breathe”, “pepper them”.


Every facet of our lives, it is division. Country is divided into tribe, geopolitical zones, ethnic groups, clans, groups, houses, families. Now this is not our fault. But it is our fault that we use these to distrust each other. WE CAN NEVER BUILD NIGERIA or progress to be a strong group. We can only have a few strong individuals that won’t help us achieve what we ought to had we been able to work together as a people.

Another thing to note is, NO ONE BETRAYS YOU THE MOST AS A NIGERIAN. A NIGERIAN YOU TRIED TO HELP WILL BETRAY YOU SO MUCH THAT THEY CONCEIVE OF A PLAN SO VILE, SO DEMONIC, SO WICKED AND WITHOUT LIMITS, THAT IT WOULD GET YOU IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW AND WRECK YOUR FAMILY. A Nigerian will sneak to the house of another Nigerian who travelled back home to attempt to sleep with his wife. Or attempt to woo his barely legal daughter. Nigerians can be vile and wicked. So at times we do not blame them for being wary and distrustful of a fellow Nigerian. WE CAN BE SMARTLY AND CRAFTILY WICKED, DEMONIC AND SELFISHLY VILE PEOPLE.


Nigerians will always be divided on:

-Tribe
-Ethnic group
-Religion - to the shameful level of denomination
-Unhealthy competition
-Selfishness to get what they want no matter how immoral and vile
-General distrust of the motives of a fellow Nigerian.

These exists in other parts of the world. But most Nigerians take it to another level.

AmalaAtiEwedu:

The best part is that he is encouraging population reduction

By skull mining?

Thank you guys for your answers and contributions.