I have following been the internationally support Nigeria gave to Independence For Palestinian People, Two State Solution and wondering why exactly is Israel allowing this to slide and not use the sledge hammer like the normally do hamas and hizbullah.

Please discuss, this is an opinion seeking thread ,please keep tribal slurs out

It would be a dream come true

I cant wait to have you guys go your own way

Hmmm

Nigeria makes these sort of statements from a general perspective. It always manages to find different ways to dodge the real commitments whenever an oppurtuinity for doing so emerges. And Isreal understands this. I mean, Isreali security companies are still very active as we talk in the Niger Delta. Nigerias rulers, irrespective of their religious inclinations, will always hire the isrealis to do sensitive security jobs for the country, including in Aso rock. Do you remember when Buhari hired an Isreali company to kidnap Umaru Dikko?

At the United nations, the Isreali/Palestine issue is somewhat close to the Taiwan vs China issue in diplomatic terms. Many countries deal with Taiwan, but the Chinese will let that slide for other diplomatic/political/economic reasons. The point is that the rulers of Nigeria understand where to draw the line. They seldom contribute to any financial pull to support violence against isreal, and "supporting violence against Isreal", is always the deal breaker for Isreal.

Nigerian government officials will make some general statements against Isreal, and then go back to normal relations with isreal. The only time that Nigeria tried seriously to take up a major anti isreal role in dealing with the isreal vs Palestine crises, was when General Sani Abacha invited Yasser Arafat to Abuja and promised him millions of dollars. He died the next morning! Peacefully in sleep too!!! Major Hamza Mustafa has been wailing on top of his voice that it was a handshake with one of Arafats men that killed Abacha, but Nigerians have been herded by the BBC and the VOA into believing that it was some Indian gals and some apples, that were responsible.

because the support is useless in the real sense. only the USA can force Israel to achieve the two state, one state or even 100 state solution.

MadPolitician:
Nigeria makes these sort of statements from a general perspective. It always manages to find different ways to dodge the real commitments whenever an oppurtuinity for doing so emerges. And Isreal understands this. I mean, Isreali security companies are still very active as we talk in the Niger Delta. Nigerias rulers, irrespective of their religious inclinations, will always hire the isrealis to do sensitive security jobs for the country, including in Aso rock. Do you remember when Buhari hired an Isreali company to kidnap Umaru Dikko?

At the United nations, the Isreali/Palestine issue is somewhat close to the Taiwan vs China issue in diplomatic terms. Many countries deal with Taiwan, but the Chinese will let that slide for other diplomatic/political/economic reasons. The point is that the rulers of Nigeria understand where to draw the line. They seldom contribute to any financial pull to support violence against isreal, and "supporting violence against Isreal", is always the deal breaker for Isreal.

Nigerian government officials will make some general statements against Isreal, and then go back to normal relations with isreal. The only time that Nigeria tried seriously to take up a major anti isreal role in dealing with the isreal vs Palestine crises, was when General Sani Abacha invited Yasser Arafat to Abuja and promised him millions of dollars. He died the next morning! Peacefully in sleep too!!! Major Hamza Mustafa has een wailing on top of his voice that it was a handshake with one of Arafats men that killed Abacha, but Nigerians have been herded by the BBC and the VOA into believing that it was some Indian gals and some apples, that were responsible.

wow great one here. lessons to those kids that don't know how all these nation's play (what we call) international politics.

kettykin:
I have following been the internationally support Nigeria gave to Independence For Palestinian People, Two State Solution and wondering why exactly is Israel allowing this to slide and not use the sledge hammer like the normally do hamas and hizbullah.

Please discuss, this is an opinion seeking thread ,please keep tribal slurs out

Yeah like the way they supported you during the civil war with biscuits and crackers but we're supplying Nigeria with weapons.

Pissrael can not even defend themselves without Amerikkka coming to their aid.

FYI, Russia escalated the tensions with Hamas and Hezbollah over Pissrael support for Jewkraine .


As we can see ,Amerikkka dropped everything in Jewkraine to run to defend their masters in Pissrael.

I have read a lot of foolishness from you idiots here with one fool saying Pissrael should prop up Biafra so it can be the Israel of West Africa to check Islam in the region.

I want you to know what you are playing with is fire that will consume you beyond the lite singes you got in the war.

Continue your foolishhes.

MadPolitician:
Nigeria makes these sort of statements from a general perspective. It always manages to find different ways to dodge the real commitments whenever an oppurtuinity for doing so emerges. And Isreal understands this. I mean, Isreali security companies are still very active as we talk in the Niger Delta. Nigerias rulers, irrespective of their religious inclinations, will always hire the isrealis to do sensitive security jobs for the country, including in Aso rock. Do you remember when Buhari hired an Isreali company to kidnap Umaru Dikko?

At the United nations, the Isreali/Palestine issue is somewhat close to the Taiwan vs China issue in diplomatic terms. Many countries deal with Taiwan, but the Chinese will let that slide for other diplomatic/political/economic reasons. The point is that the rulers of Nigeria understand where to draw the line. They seldom contribute to any financial pull to support violence against isreal, and "supporting violence against Isreal", is always the deal breaker for Isreal.

Nigerian government officials will make some general statements against Isreal, and then go back to normal relations with isreal. The only time that Nigeria tried seriously to take up a major anti isreal role in dealing with the isreal vs Palestine crises, was when General Sani Abacha invited Yasser Arafat to Abuja and promised him millions of dollars. He died the next morning! Peacefully in sleep too!!! Major Hamza Mustafa has een wailing on top of his voice that it was a handshake with one of Arafats men that killed Abacha, but Nigerians have been herded by the BBC and the VOA into believing that it was some Indian gals and some apples, that were responsible.

Nigeria was overwhelmingly politically anti Zionist and anti Communist before the Nigerian Civil war and this did not in any way impact on Federal Forces dealing the death blow to your useless Biafra.

Go and find out how your Pissrael that supported your useless Biafra only on paper and with biscuit and cracker rations was actively supplying Nigerian federal forces with weapons.

We have been warning you to stick to your linear petty trading and stay out of the 5D chess game.

The only reason Pissrael will support you idiots is so as to promote war and death on your side which is what Talmudic Judaism dictates and promotes on gentile nation.

If I may ask, what did Pissrael support for your useless Biafra amount to ?

KwaraRat:


Nigeria was overwhelmingly politically anti Zionist and anti Communist before the Nigerian Civil war and this did not in any way impact on Federal Forces dealing the death blow to your useless Biafra.

Go and find out how your Pissrael that supported your useless Biafra only on paper and with biscuit and cracker rations was actively supplying Nigerian federal forces with weapons.

We have been warning you to stick to your linear petty trading and stay out of the 5D chess game.

The only reason Pissrael will support you idiots is so as to promote war and death on your side which is what Talmudic Judaism dictates and promotes on gentile nation.

If I may ask, what did Pissrael support for your useless Biafra amount to ?

The OP of this thread begged everyone to desist from mudslinging as he wanted some honest imputs. Why don't you just respect him and keep it clean for a split sec, even if that has become.an uphill task for you?? I don't think i mentioned any of the things you're foaming in the mouth about.

MadPolitician:
Nigeria makes these sort of statements from a general perspective. It always manages to find different ways to dodge the real commitments whenever an oppurtuinity for doing so emerges. And Isreal understands this. I mean, Isreali security companies are still very active as we talk in the Niger Delta. Nigerias rulers, irrespective of their religious inclinations, will always hire the isrealis to do sensitive security jobs for the country, including in Aso rock. Do you remember when Buhari hired an Isreali company to kidnap Umaru Dikko?

At the United nations, the Isreali/Palestine issue is somewhat close to the Taiwan vs China issue in diplomatic terms. Many countries deal with Taiwan, but the Chinese will let that slide for other diplomatic/political/economic reasons. The point is that the rulers of Nigeria understand where to draw the line. They seldom contribute to any financial pull to support violence against isreal, and "supporting violence against Isreal", is always the deal breaker for Isreal.

Nigerian government officials will make some general statements against Isreal, and then go back to normal relations with isreal. The only time that Nigeria tried seriously to take up a major anti isreal role in dealing with the isreal vs Palestine crises, was when General Sani Abacha invited Yasser Arafat to Abuja and promised him millions of dollars. He died the next morning! Peacefully in sleep too!!! Major Hamza Mustafa has been wailing on top of his voice that it was a handshake with one of Arafats men that killed Abacha, but Nigerians have been herded by the BBC and the VOA into believing that it was some Indian gals and some apples, that were responsible.

You made my day with this contribution. But I am yet to understand Israel using sledgehammer on middle east countries and using birds feather on others. Like the Abacha issue which I saw live ,I previously thought CIA killed Abacha till now

kettykin:
I have following been the internationally support Nigeria gave to Independence For Palestinian People, Two State Solution and wondering why exactly is Israel allowing this to slide and not use the sledge hammer like the normally do hamas and hizbullah.

Please discuss, this is an opinion seeking thread ,please keep tribal slurs out

Nigeria is not supporting Palestine, only Boko Haram is....Israel knows.

MadPolitician:


The OP of this thread begged everyone to desist from mudslinging as he wanted some honest imputs. Why don't you just respect him and keep it clean for a split sec, even if that has become.an uphill task for you?? I don't think i mentioned any of the things you're foaming in the mouth about.

Thanks again, all I prayed for was an intelligent discourse

MadPolitician:


The OP of this thread begged everyone to desist from mudslinging as he wanted some honest imputs. Why don't you just respect him and keep it clean for a split sec, even if that has become.an uphill task for you?? I don't think i mentioned any of the things you're foaming in the mouth about.

How did Pissrael support for your useless Biafra turnout ?

Go and answer that first.

Also your Kanu landed in Israel before embarking to Kenya for what he thought was fund raising trip. Kanu was specifically asked to visit Pissrael and was directed to Kenya to meet up with a Mossad agent there only for his Jewish masters to sell him like a slave to Nigeria

FYI, Nigeria was convinced to sign into the Saudi led Sunni alliance to normalize relations with Pissrael after Israel delivered Kanu to the hands of Nigerian security forces.

To provide plausible deniability, a Mossad team was in the SE filming a fake documentary on Ibo links to Jewry. The arrest of the fake film crew was meant to drown the stench of Israel selling Kanu like the slave he is to Buhari.


The day you go get sense that is the day hell will freeze over.

LordIsaac:

Nigeria is not supporting Palestine, only Boko Haram is....Israel knows.

Same with Lebanon, hezbullah is supporting hàmas but the rest of Lebanon is neutral

LordIsaac:

Nigeria is not supporting Palestine, only Boko Haram is....Israel knows.

You must be extremely ignorant to utter such a statement, it is as obnoxious as saying that The Federal Republic of Nigeria did not support The ANC or The ZANU-PF under apartheid.

kettykin:


Same with Lebanon, hezbullah is supporting hàmas but the rest of Lebanon is neutral

Damn to many ignorant things on this forum.

Tufiakpa.

blacknp:
You must be extremely ignorant to utter such a statement, it is as obnoxious as saying that The Federal Republic of Nigeria did not support The ANC or The ZANU-PF under apartheid.

kettykin:


Same with Lebanon, hezbullah is supporting hàmas but the rest of Lebanon is neutral

Exactly!

KwaraRat:


Yeah like the way they supported you during the civil war with biscuits and crackers but we're supplying Nigeria with weapons.

Pissrael can not even defend themselves without Amerikkka coming to their aid.

FYI, Russia escalated the tensions with Hamas and Hezbollah over Pissrael support for Jewkraine .


As we can see ,Amerikkka dropped everything in Jewkraine to run to defend their masters in Pissrael.

I have read a lot of foolishness from you idiots here with one fool saying Pissrael should prop up Biafra so it can be the Israel of West Africa to check Islam in the region.

I want you to know what you are playing with is fire that will consume you beyond the lite singes you got in the war.

Continue your foolishhes.

Why exactly are you crying?

Tranquillity360:
Why exactly are you crying?

They get hooked on anything Biafra. Biafra is their Achilles heels. Mention the name Biafra and you will see grown ass men on their knees, weak and spineless.

I think this is more of a medical condition than a mindset issue

This is the key difference:

Israel is fighting and flogging all the Arab nations combined. SIMULTANEOUSLY.

But Biafrans are known to flee battles after chestbeating.

You can't compare bravery to cowardice.

In fact looking at how Tinubu fought a President + Vice President + Senate President + Party Chairman and CBN Governor COMBINED and flogged them all... Israelis are closer to Yoruba.

Unlike Peter Obi that ran away before PDP primaries even started.

Okay ooo

KwaraRat:

How did Pissrael support for your useless Biafra turnout ?

Go and answer that first.

Also your Kanu landed in Israel before embarking to Kenya for what he thought was fund raising trip. Kanu was specifically asked to visit Pissrael and was directed to Kenya to meet up with a Mossad agent there only for his Jewish masters to sell him like a slave to Nigeria

FYI, Nigeria was convinced to sign into the Saudi led Sunni alliance to normalize relations with Pissrael after Israel delivered Kanu to the hands of Nigerian security forces.

To provide plausible deniability, a Mossad team was in the SE filming a fake documentary on Ibo links to Jewry. The arrest of the fake film crew was meant to thrown the stench of Israel selling Kanu like the slave he is to Buhari.


The day you go get sense that the hell will freeze over.

It's like you are dealing with an acute case of Biafraphobia.. This thread is not about Biafra but i will still go ahead to clear you on certain points before i move on..

1) Isreal was basically in the middle of a flare up in her endless wars with her Arab neighbours during the Nigeria vs Biafra war. So in pratical terms, even if Isreal wanted to help the Biafrans, Isreal as a young nation in a middle of several wars with several older nations, didn't have the capability as they basically depended on the west for solid military supplies at that stage in their national life.

2) Isreal works solidly with western nations on global issues. The Biafran issue was a very important global question at that time and even more today, because of the heavy hydrocarbon discoveries in the areas called Biafra. The British and the Americans somewhat voted to join Gowon because Gowon was ready to deal. That was how America became a permanent destination for all our forex reserves and Shell and others western oil coys, owners of all major oil wells and gas fields uptil today.

3) With the Arab wars looming, Isreal could never afford to undercut her major allies. Not even today. It was Ojukwus job to make a case for Biafra in a way that it would have been palatable to the west. His inability to grasp the fact international politics was all about "i give you and you give me", was the basic reason he failed. Not necessarily because isreal couldn't support him much. Even the russians wanted to support him but told him to nationalise the oil companies, but he refused. The rest like they say is history

4) The narrative that some or all igbos are related to the jews which you mock all day, hasn't gained currency/ traction anywhere in the world then, not even in isreal. So there was no way the Isrealis would have seen the urgent need to come and fight for Biafra in Nigeria. They can only provide any tangible support for the Biafrans, if such is officially proven and gazetted in Isreal.., so rest.

5) I do agree with you though that Nnamdi kanu could have been used as a "trade off" based on what i said in No 4. It is very possible that after the Nigerian government must have handed over certain amounts of offshore oil and gas fields to say the Americans, or the British, the isrealis were told to hand him over to Nigeria, especially if you take into consideration the fact that this arrest happened during the few months that Bibi was not in power. The much touted contact between IPOB and the Isreali government happened when Bibi was in power, before loosing an election, then winning another election, to stage this recent comeback.

These are just my postulations based on the run of events.

Nonsense.
Most countries including Israel's most valuable ally support 2 states.
Even more than a third of Israel citizens also supports 2 states.

Even if your wish comes true, Israel's support for Biafra will change nothing.
The only country that can make Biafra a reality is not interested in doing so.

MadPolitician:
Nigeria makes these sort of statements from a general perspective. It always manages to find different ways to dodge the real commitments whenever an oppurtuinity for doing so emerges. And Isreal understands this. I mean, Isreali security companies are still very active as we talk in the Niger Delta. Nigerias rulers, irrespective of their religious inclinations, will always hire the isrealis to do sensitive security jobs for the country, including in Aso rock. Do you remember when Buhari hired an Isreali company to kidnap Umaru Dikko?

At the United nations, the Isreali/Palestine issue is somewhat close to the Taiwan vs China issue in diplomatic terms. Many countries deal with Taiwan, but the Chinese will let that slide for other diplomatic/political/economic reasons. The point is that the rulers of Nigeria understand where to draw the line. They seldom contribute to any financial pull to support violence against isreal, and "supporting violence against Isreal", is always the deal breaker for Isreal.

Nigerian government officials will make some general statements against Isreal, and then go back to normal relations with isreal. The only time that Nigeria tried seriously to take up a major anti isreal role in dealing with the isreal vs Palestine crises, was when General Sani Abacha invited Yasser Arafat to Abuja and promised him millions of dollars. He died the next morning! Peacefully in sleep too!!! Major Hamza Mustafa has been wailing on top of his voice that it was a handshake with one of Arafats men that killed Abacha, but Nigerians have been herded by the BBC and the VOA into believing that it was some Indian gals and some apples, that were responsible.

Arafat or Gadaffi?

MadPolitician:


It's like you are dealing with ab acute case of Biafraphobia.. This thread is not about Biafra but i will i will still go ahead to clear you on certain points before i move on..

1) Isreal was basically in the middle of a flare up in her endless wars with her Arab neighbours during the Nigeria vs Biafra war. So in pratical terms, even if Isreal wanted to help the Biafrans, Isreal as a young nation in a middle of several wars with several older nations, didn't have the capability as they basically depended on the west for solid military supplies at that stage in their national life.

2) Isreal works solidly with western nations on global issues. The Biafran issue was a very important global question at that time and even more today, because of the heavy hydrocarbon discoveries in the areas called Biafra. The British and the Americans somewhat voted to join Gowon because Gowon was ready to deal. That was how America became a permanent destination for all our forex reserves and Shell and others western oil coys, owners of all major oil wells and gas fields uptil today.

3) With the Arab wars looming, Isreal could never afford to undercut her major allies. Not even today. It was Ojukwus job to make a case for Biafra in a way that it would have been palatable to the west. His inability to grasp the fact international politics was all about "i give you and you give me", was the basic reason he failed. Not necessarily because isreal couldn't support him much. Even the russians wanted to support him but told him to nationalise the oil companies, but he refused. The rest like they say is history

4) The narrative that some or all igbos are related to the jews which you mock all day, hasn't gained currency/ traction anywhere in the world then, not even in isreal. So there was no way the Isrealis would have seen the urgent need to come and fight for Biafra in Nigeria. They can only provide any tangible support for the Biafrans, if such is officially proven and gazetted in Isreal.., so rest.

5) I do agree with you though that Nnamdi kanu could have been used as a "trade off" based on what i said in No 4. It is very possible that after the Nigerian government must have handed over certain amounts of offshore oil and gas fields to say the Americans, or the British, the isrealis were told to hand him over to Nigeria, especially if you take into consideration the fact that this arrest happened during the few months that Bibi was not in power. The much touted contact between IPOB and the Isreali government happened when Bibi was in power, before loosing an election, then winning another election, to stage this recent comeback.

Thwse are just my postulations based on the run of events.

You are free to be the new Ukraine proxy.


It's not today Jews have been using you fools in that your cursed corner to their financial and political benefit.

A people that formed the bulk of slaves sold and enslaved by Jewish slavers but today you say you are Jews.

Is this not how Baron Rothschild sponsored your Jan 15 coup so as to secure Nigeria's oil wealth with his shell while at the same time indebting Nigeria to his brothers banks in London, New York and Paris ?

The day you fools will get sense is the day your emancipation will begin.

You are here openly calling for a foriegn state to sponsor destabilisation in Nigeria towards supporting your useless Biafra that seeks to annex the SS just as your slave masters stole Palestine.

Look, you are evil to the bone and have exposed yourselves for who you really are.

I will refer you to how Pissrael support for you fools in Biafra amounted to them sending you biscuits while arming Nigeria to the teeth

Foolish slave.

kettykin:
I have following been the internationally support Nigeria gave to Independence For Palestinian People, Two State Solution and wondering why exactly is Israel allowing this to slide and not use the sledge hammer like the normally do hamas and hizbullah.

Please discuss, this is an opinion seeking thread ,please keep tribal slurs out

And what’s that sledgehammer? Start bombing Nigeria and blowing up phones and pagers and killing women and innocent children? Is that the sensible way to respond to a call for a two state solution between Israel and Palestinian?

MadPolitician:
Nigeria makes these sort of statements from a general perspective. It always manages to find different ways to dodge the real commitments whenever an oppurtuinity for doing so emerges. And Isreal understands this. I mean, Isreali security companies are still very active as we talk in the Niger Delta. Nigerias rulers, irrespective of their religious inclinations, will always hire the isrealis to do sensitive security jobs for the country, including in Aso rock. Do you remember when Buhari hired an Isreali company to kidnap Umaru Dikko?

At the United nations, the Isreali/Palestine issue is somewhat close to the Taiwan vs China issue in diplomatic terms. Many countries deal with Taiwan, but the Chinese will let that slide for other diplomatic/political/economic reasons. The point is that the rulers of Nigeria understand where to draw the line. They seldom contribute to any financial pull to support violence against isreal, and "supporting violence against Isreal", is always the deal breaker for Isreal.

Nigerian government officials will make some general statements against Isreal, and then go back to normal relations with isreal. The only time that Nigeria tried seriously to take up a major anti isreal role in dealing with the isreal vs Palestine crises, was when General Sani Abacha invited Yasser Arafat to Abuja and promised him millions of dollars. He died the next morning! Peacefully in sleep too!!! Major Hamza Mustafa has been wailing on top of his voice that it was a handshake with one of Arafats men that killed Abacha, but Nigerians have been herded by the BBC and the VOA into believing that it was some Indian gals and some apples, that were responsible.

Hmmm, probably shook him with a poisoned ring, with a nerve agent. Slow death over 24-48 hrs

ALTERNATEID:


And what’s that sledgehammer? Start bombing Nigeria and blowing up phones and pagers and killing women and innocent children? Is that the sensible way to respond to a call for a two state solution between Israel and Palestinian?

You are now seeing clearly how evil and depraved these IPOB pigs are.

Nigeria is not Pissrael mate because unlike the west , our politicians and military men are not freemason lackeys or pedophiles under blackmail.

Even in the ME region, Pissrael is seen more like a mad dog over their Samson option and their foolish Amerikkkan golem that is ready to blow up the planet over their prostitute Jezebel Pissrael.

Pissrael is a terrorist state that was forged from terrorism and maintained by terrorist acts and threats.

kettykin:
I have following been the internationally support Nigeria gave to Independence For Palestinian People, Two State Solution and wondering why exactly is Israel allowing this to slide and not use the sledge hammer like the normally do hamas and hizbullah.

Please discuss, this is an opinion seeking thread ,please keep tribal slurs out

Israel will not want to support Biafra agitation and be on the losing side.
Biafra agitation and Palestenian casue is not the same.
Biafra agitation is championed by proscribed non state actors while Palestine enjoys official recognition by international community.
Finally Biafra agitators are politically not in control of any territory so there is no basis for comparism.

CyrusVI:


It would be a dream come true

I cant wait to have you guys go your own way

The Yoruba Nation agitators must have their own nation
They have been massacred in thousands by the herdsmen.

kettykin:


You made my day with this contribution. But I am yet to understand Israel using sledgehammer on middle east countries and using birds feather on others. Like the Abacha issue which I saw live ,I previously thought CIA killed Abacha till now

Look at it this way
The middle eastern countries are very lethal in decimating opponents. Bqcked by religious injuctions,
their leaders can be very violent, and Benjamin Netanyahu got it right when he told the American president, that is Isreal exists in a very rough neighbourhood. The Arabs beleive so much in violent conquests.

That was how the whole of Northern Africa became Arabanized. The Arabs slaughtered everything in their path. Uprooted every opposition and forced down their religion. So successful were they at it, that as at today, many people don't know that the pyramids were not built by the Arabs. And that before the arabs came to North Africa, a more organised civilization like The Moors, lived prosperouly there.

So what am i saying? The Arab league met many times in the 60s, 70s, and insisted that they will never have peace with Isreal, unlessthe Jewishstates folds up. The whole Arab countries attacked isreal and nearly succeeded in eliminating the jews , if not for western support and the ruthlessness of the Isreali Defence Force. So its not like the Arabs have not tried to actually decimate Isreal, they did and they lost many times.

As a result, the Arab countries lost many lands. Syria lost the Golant heights, the Jordanians lost territories and got them back from isreal after the peace deals, the Egyptians lost the areas around the suez canal, for which Anwar Sadat fought another and recovered them, before being assasinated himself few months later.

Essentially, if the isrealis are not as brutal as they are in defending themselves, the also brutal Arabs who have found ways to inject all sorts of religious nonsenses into the conflict, have all the numbers and petro-dollars needed, to eliminate Isreal. Isreal knows this and quickly got themselves some fancy nuclear bombs. Uptil today, many Arab countries and the Iranians, would do anything to suffocate the Isrealis. The Arabs arw not the innocent ones here

Honestly, if I'm the president or Prime Minister of isreal, i will be as ruthless as Benjamin Netanyahu. What the arabs were asking until recently, was that the whole land valled Isreal, should be given to the Palestinians and that the isrealis should go back to where they came from. They started talking about a "two state" solution, because Isreali intransigence proved very difficult to handle. Eliminating the Isreali is unacceptable and you need a very fierce leader to defend your country in such circumstances.