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Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by AntiChristian: 9:06am On Oct 02
Kukutenla:

So how does that prove that he wasn't aware.
If he was aware he won't need to come to the tree!

Will you also say God did not know that Adam and Eve had eaten the forbidden fruit? I always tell you that you don't understand anything about the bible.
This is not about God but Jesus! God knows the hour but Jesus doesn't! Why are you running from this?

Jesus did enough in three years to make the majority of the world Christians today. Muhammad was political going about killing anyone who disagrees with him. That's why till today, Islam is a backward religion and the followers of Muhammad occupy the poorest and most violent parts of the world.
Where are the Christians you are talking about? grin They are all non-existent! So you mean those in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait and many others are not safe?

Mention one Christian country (using the Bible as its constitution) that is safer that Saudi Arabia or Dubai? (run away as usual!)

You are largely ignorant!
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by Kukutenla: 9:28am On Oct 02
AntiChristian:
If he was aware he won't need to come to the tree!

This is not about God but Jesus! God knows the hour but Jesus doesn't! Why are you running from this?

Where are the Christians you are talking about? grin They are all non-existent! So you mean those in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait and many others are not safe?

Mention one Christian country (using the Bible as its constitution) that is safer that Saudi Arabia or Dubai? (run away as usual!)

You are largely ignorant!
If God was aware he wouldn't have come to the garden to ask Adam and Eve at least according to your interpretation.

I never said it's about God. I'm just pointing you to the background to the fig tree which you obviously do not understand.

This is the full passage about the fig tree that you have ignorantly misinterpreted as is usual with you:

Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.

20 When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked.

21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. 22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”


A corollary is also seen in the parable of the fig tree in Luke 13.
What these passage in conjunction with Genesis 3 is showing is the power of God in judgement. For everything man is given, an account will be required at the appointed time and if man fails, he will receive his punishment. It is the account that is required that is signaled by Jesus moving near the fig tree to inquire of its fruits.
So you see, you failed again as usual in understanding the bible. Now I asked you the other day and till now you haven't been able to explain why Mohammed in the Qur'an mixed up Mary the mother of Jesus with Miriam the sister of Aaron. Also why Jesus called God Allah in the Qur'an when the word Allah does not exist in Hebrew or Aramaic lexicon. Muhammad could have either been lying or his jinn lied to him.

God knows the hour but Jesus does not. What is the issue with that? Is the hour about knowledge or decision? You do not understand anything I tell you.

Lying islamist. Do you disagree now that Islamic led countries are the poorest and most violent in the world? Tell us about Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon etc. Even your Saudi and Yemen are at each other's throats. Tell us about Mali, Niger and Northern Nigeria as well. Islam and violence move pari pasu.
Is Saudi using Qur'an as its constitution now? You see how dumb you are? The argument is about Christian majority countries and Muslim majority countries. No country uses the Qur'an as its constitution lying islamist
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by AntiChristian: 12:05pm On Oct 02
Kukutenla:

If God was aware he wouldn't have come to the garden to ask Adam and Eve at least according to your interpretation.

I never said it's about God. I'm just pointing you to the background to the fig tree which you obviously do not understand.

This is the full passage about the fig tree that you have ignorantly misinterpreted as is usual with you:



A corollary is also seen in the parable of the fig tree in Luke 13.
What these passage in conjunction with Genesis 3 is showing is the power of God in judgement. For everything man is given, an account will be required at the appointed time and if man fails, he will receive his punishment. It is the account that is required that is signaled by Jesus moving near the fig tree to inquire of its fruits.
So you see, you failed again as usual in understanding the bible. Now I asked you the other day and till now you haven't been able to explain why Mohammed in the Qur'an mixed up Mary the mother of Jesus with Miriam the sister of Aaron. Also why Jesus called God Allah in the Qur'an when the word Allah does not exist in Hebrew or Aramaic lexicon. Muhammad could have either been lying or his jinn lied to him.

God knows the hour but Jesus does not. What is the issue with that? Is the hour about knowledge or decision? You do not understand anything I tell you.

Lying islamist. Do you disagree now that Islamic led countries are the poorest and most violent in the world? Tell us about Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon etc. Even your Saudi and Yemen are at each other's throats. Tell us about Mali, Niger and Northern Nigeria as well. Islam and violence move pari pasu.
Is Saudi using Qur'an as its constitution now? You see how dumb you are? The argument is about Christian majority countries and Muslim majority countries. No country uses the Qur'an as its constitution lying islamist

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See as you avoided all the questions!
If Jesus was aware of the fig tree then he need not come to it to say anything! But he still came to check the tree for fruit! How about "That fig tree over there has no fruit, oya produce fruit make i chop"! grin But na curse he curse!

If Jesus was as powerful as you made him his parent won't have to carry him to run after birth!
If Jesus was as powerful as you claim he would have know the hour like God but he is not God hence his knowledge is limited!
There are many peaceful Islamic countries as well as those not peaceful!

North Africa is largely peaceful. Mention the Christian countries using the Bible as constitution? Stop running away from the truth!

Finally Jesus said he can of himself do nothing!
So he got no power of himself!
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by Kukutenla: 1:44pm On Oct 02
AntiChristian:


grin

See as you avoided all the questions!
If Jesus was aware of the fig tree then he need not come to it to say anything! But he still came to check the tree for fruit! How about "That fig tree over there has no fruit, oya produce fruit make i chop"! grin But na curse he curse!

If Jesus was as powerful as you made him his parent won't have to carry him to run after birth!
If Jesus was as powerful as you claim he would have know the hour like God but he is not God hence his knowledge is limited!
There are many peaceful Islamic countries as well as those not peaceful!

North Africa is largely peaceful. Mention the Christian countries using the Bible as constitution? Stop running away from the truth!

Finally Jesus said he can of himself do nothing!
So he got no power of himself!
I did not avoid the question. It is your brain that is not processing the answer. If Jesus was unaware of fruit on the fig tree, it will also be fair to say God was unaware of man's disobedience to his command.
I don't get. Was Jesus not human? Was Muhammad powerful from birth?
Does Muhammad know the last Day? I am telling you that the hour is about decision not knowledge. Only God decides the hour when the trumpet will sound. It is not an hour set in stone. You need to understand things please. There are signs that the hour is approaching which Jesus told his disciples but the exact hour is a decision to be made by God.
You need to mention Islamic countries that use Quran as constitution before you start asking same of Christian countries.
We all know religious demographics and what that shows that the Middle East is the most volatile region of the world. Places that have Islamic majority are more prone to violence and are the poorest parts of the world. They are also the most repressive especially for women. You can't dispute these facts with taqiyya
Can Muhammad of himself do anything? I thought you will agree with what Jesus said since you're presumably a monotheist.
Well, after Jesus rose from the dead, he said All power in heaven and on earth has been given to him including power over Muhammad (Matthew 28:18). That's why till today, you are not sure whether Muhammad is in heaven or hell
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by AntiChristian: 2:45pm On Oct 02
Kukutenla:

I did not avoid the question. It is your brain that is not processing the answer. If Jesus was unaware of fruit on the fig tree, it will also be fair to say God was unaware of man's disobedience to his command.
You are comparing Jesus to God! God knows the hour, Jesus doesn't! God can do all things himself. Jesus can't. God doesn't need protection. Jesus does need protection! God doesn't sleep not eat. Jesus does! God doesn't need to come to the tree to know it had no fruit. Jesus did need to!


I don't get. Was Jesus not human? Was Muhammad powerful from birth?
Does Muhammad know the last Day? I am telling you that the hour is about decision not knowledge. Only God decides the hour when the trumpet will sound. It is not an hour set in stone. You need to understand things please. There are signs that the hour is approaching which Jesus told his disciples but the exact hour is a decision to be made by God.
Both of them are human who God granted their own share of miracles. They never claim to know more than what was revealed to them! Both Jesus and Muhammad had no power of themselves!

You need to mention Islamic countries that use Quran as constitution before you start asking same of Christian countries.
We all know religious demographics and what that shows that the Middle East is the most volatile region of the world. Places that have Islamic majority are more prone to violence and are the poorest parts of the world. They are also the most repressive especially for women. You can't dispute these facts with taqiyya
Even Nigeria's Sharia uses part not to talk of the real Islam world! Banning Alcohol is from the Qur'an!

Or is that Taqiyya now? grin

Can Muhammad of himself do anything? I thought you will agree with what Jesus said since you're presumably a monotheist.
Well, after Jesus rose from the dead, he said All power in heaven and on earth has been given to him including power over Muhammad (Matthew 28:18). That's why till today, you are not sure whether Muhammad is in heaven or hell
If all power was given to Jesus then that means the father is useless from then right? Help me understand! Jesus collects all the power of the father! Jesus now has all power!

All power has been given to him so why didn't he tell you the hour?
He said he will send you the Holy Spirit which will inform you of the truth!

Help me ask Holy Spirit when is the hour now?
Make holy Spirit contact Jesus for "expo" as all power has been given to him!
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by Kukutenla: 3:15pm On Oct 02
AntiChristian:
You are comparing Jesus to God! God knows the hour, Jesus doesn't! God can do all things himself. Jesus can't. God doesn't need protection. Jesus does need protection! God doesn't sleep not eat. Jesus does! God doesn't need to come to the tree to know it had no fruit. Jesus did need to!
The Islamist is confused. I thought the whole point of Trinity is that God and Jesus are one and the same. What is this distinction you are making now? All power in heaven and on earth have been given to me (Matthew 28:18)


Both of them are human who God granted their own share of miracles. They never claim to know more than what was revealed to them! Both Jesus and Muhammad had no power of themselves!
Which Jesus are you talking of? The Jesus in the Bible or Eesa in the Quran who preached Allah to his fellow Jews before the advent of Islam? Allah in Israel. Islamists oo grin grin Till today you have still not explained how Maryam mother of Jesus is same with Miriam sister of Aaron in the Quran grin grin

Even Nigeria's Sharia uses part not to talk of the real Islam world! Banning Alcohol is from the Qur'an!

Or is that Taqiyya now? grin
Toh. The Nigerian Constitution only recognises monogamous marriage. Thus the Bible is the Nigerian Constitution according to Antichristian the Islamic dummy. You're really dull make I nor lie. Banning Alcohol is from Quran indeed. Do you know how many people in the Bible don't drink alcohol? Chai!! Islamists grin grin I'm still waiting for you to mention the countries that have Quran has their law o. Islamic liar. Taqiyya expert

If all power was given to Jesus then that means the father is useless from then right? Help me understand! Jesus collects all the power of the father! Jesus now has all power!

All power has been given to him so why didn't he tell you the hour?
He said he will send you the Holy Spirit which will inform you of the truth!

Help me ask Holy Spirit when is the hour now?
Make holy Spirit contact Jesus for "expo" as all power has been given to him!
Is the usefulness of the father dependent on the powerlessness of the son and vice versa? You lack depth of understanding. The King of England is useless since all power is with the Prime Minister. Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginining the earth was without form and darkness covered the Earth. The Spirit of God covered the deep. And God said: "Let there be light and there was light". Do you know what that means in relation to John 1:1. The word of God is Jesus. The power of God is in the word of God. So how is God powerless? Islamists lack depths. Oya explain the difference between the Spirit of Allah that entered into man, the form of Allah and Allah himself grin grin

The hour is not set. The hour is yet to be decided on by God. That is what is confusing the Islamist grin grin
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by Vawulence120: 3:16pm On Oct 02
AntiChristian:


Abeg make the thunder fire them all for your home! It's democracy so you should accept the results! It's my believe in destiny whether good or bad and it has nothing to do with the economy of Nigeria!

Tinubu doesn't control anyone's destiny!

rig results abi

Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by AntiChristian: 3:22pm On Oct 02
Vawulence120:
rig results abi

Even Trump says elections was rigged in the US.

So of what use is this?
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by ilevic(m): 9:42pm On Oct 10
AntiChristian:


I am a supporter of Nigeria! Even if your dad becomes the president tomorrow I will support him! I don't go against constituted authorities...


It would be nice if you can be responsible enough to make your point without bringing my dad into this...

Enjoy your ₦1200 per litre, the most patriotic Nigeria...
Re: Full Independence Day Speech Of President Tinubu by AntiChristian: 7:57am On Oct 11
ilevic:



It would be nice if you can be responsible enough to make your point without bringing my dad into this...

Enjoy your ₦1200 per litre, the most patriotic Nigeria...

Apologies if you find that insulting. I never meant to insult you.

Of course we'll all enjoy it.

It's the dividend of democracy!

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