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Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Electorate: 4:02pm On Oct 16
Most time when I read comments on nairaland I shake my head in dismay at the level of ignorance (I mean chest beating ignorance) supposed Christians display in support of Israel whenever Israel is at war with another country (Especially an Islamic country)

Mind you I am Christian.

Read this:

The essential difference between Jews and Christians is that Christians accept Jesus as messiah and personal savior. Jesus is not part of Jewish theology. Amongst Jews, Jesus is not considered a divine being. Therefore all holidays that have a connection to the life of Jesus are not part of Jewish life and/or practice (Christmas, Easter, Lent, Advent, Palm Sunday, etc.).

The above statement is coming from a Jewish community, read more here:

https://reformjudaism.org/learning/answers-jewish-questions/what-are-main-differences-between-jew-and-christian

Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Electorate: 4:03pm On Oct 16
Ironically, The Jews most Christians support don't even believe Jesus is the Messiah or even a prophet of God till today, While the Muslim believe Jesus is indeed a prophet of God.

Yet they support the Jews who doesn't believe Jesus and wish death on the Muslims who actually believe Jesus is a prophet of God...no be juju be that?

The way that righteousness2 guy carry Israel matter for head you will think The Lord Chosen Church which he attends belongs to the Israeli Government.

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by SHINJA: 4:15pm On Oct 16
A crying head slamming mohammadian terrorists...

It gives us joy when terrorists are killed...
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by omonla555: 4:25pm On Oct 16
Do Nigerian dumb Christians know this? Because Jesus Christ is from the tribe of Judah.

It is like saying BOKO Haram from Islam, now all Muslims are terrorists.
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:37pm On Oct 16
Electorate:
Most time when I read comments on nairaland I shake my head in dismay at the level of ignorance (I mean chest beating ignorance) supposed Christians display in support of Israel whenever Israel is at war with another country (Especially an Islamic country)

Mind you I am Christian.

Snip…

Why do you believe you are a Christian? undecided
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Efuaye(m): 5:02pm On Oct 16
It is not because of Christianity that Christians support the Jews or Israel; rather, they do so fully aware of the Abrahamic covenant. It is prophetic and biblical to support Israel regardless of whether they believe Jesus is the Messiah.

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by sonmvayina(m): 6:03pm On Oct 16
omonla555:
Do Nigerian dumb Christians know this? Because Jesus Christ is from the tribe of Judah.

It is like saying BOKO Haram from Islam, now all Muslims are terrorists.

Does it mean his father is from the tribe of Judah?
I thought he was called Jesus of Nazareth...

Abeg make una piss for one place make we see the foam...
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by AntiisIam(m): 6:18pm On Oct 16
Reason Christians are supporting Jews is because the idol you called allah is against both Christians and Jews


Quran 5:51

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk




Quran 9:5

Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (Christians and Jews) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On Oct 16
Real Christians don't support violence! Psalms 11:5
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Qasimm: 7:39pm On Oct 16
AntiisIam:
Reason Christians are supporting Jews is because the idol you called allah is against both Christians and Jews


Quran 5:51

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk

Is the verse not justify now with the way some of you that claim to be Christians move?

It is not violence that you hate, if it is done to Muslims you are fine, you don't care if genocide is being melt out on people in as much as they are Muslim.


AntiisIam:

Quran 9:5

Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (Christians and Jews) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

You intentionally turn a blind eye to the verse before and after that verse to quote the verse out of context to suit your narrative.
U intentionally put Jews and Christians in bracket when the verse is not even about Jews and Christians.
I'm always suprise why it is some of you Christians, Isis and boko- harams and their likes that always understand those "violent verses" the same way. You must have something in common with them.
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by AntiisIam(m): 6:10am On Oct 17
Qasimm:


Is the verse not justify now with the way some of you that claim to be Christians move?

It is not violence that you hate, if it is done to Muslims you are fine, you don't care if genocide is being melt out on people in as much as they are Muslim.

What are you doing to Christians? To kill and behead them for allah, persecuting them for that pedophile messenger of yours that was poisoned to death, terrorizing them because they are against the idol you called allah

You attacked Israel in her own territory but when IDF is giving you back what you started, you're there crying blood, crying genocide as if it was IDF that called for war


Qasimm:

You intentionally turn a blind eye to the verse before and after that verse to quote the verse out of context to suit your narrative.
U intentionally put Jews and Christians in bracket when the verse is not even about Jews and Christians.
I'm always suprise why it is some of you Christians, Isis and boko- harams and their likes that always understand those "violent verses" the same way. You must have something in common with them.

Ahahahahaha am I the author of your quran? This is a complete sentence that says you should hate and Kill Christians and Jews. I have more hatred verses in your quran where allah is not friendly with the people of the book


Quran 98:6
Surely (the ones) who have disbelieved among the population of the Book (Or: family of the Book; i.e., the Jews and Christians) and the associators (Those who associate others with Allah) will be in the Fire of Hell, eternally (abiding) therein; those are they who are the most evil beings (Literally: Initiated creatures)

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by MightySparrow: 7:25am On Oct 17
MaxInDHouse:
Real Christians don't support violence! Psalms 11:5


Hello friend.

No real should condolence violence.

That is not even the issue but that prophecy of the Bible are being fulfilled in our time. On one side, those who disbelieve in the Bible will know Christians ( not JWs) are not chasing shadows; on the other side, our faith is reinforced that whatever is promised by God ( our own trinitarian)) God is worth believing in their fulfillment and also the eventual fate of the world and the people that have ever lived in it.
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by MightySparrow: 7:28am On Oct 17
Electorate:
Most time when I read comments on nairaland I shake my head in dismay at the level of ignorance (I mean chest beating ignorance) supposed Christians display in support of Israel whenever Israel is at war with another country (Especially an Islamic country)

Mind you I am Christian.

Read this:

The essential difference between Jews and Christians is that Christians accept Jesus as messiah and personal savior. Jesus is not part of Jewish theology. Amongst Jews, Jesus is not considered a divine being. Therefore all holidays that have a connection to the life of Jesus are not part of Jewish life and/or practice (Christmas, Easter, Lent, Advent, Palm Sunday, etc.).

The above statement is coming from a Jewish community, read more here:

https://reformjudaism.org/learning/answers-jewish-questions/what-are-main-differences-between-jew-and-christian


Whatever the position of the writer, Christianity is still connected to the Jews not other race. This error made Catholic church approved killing the Jews. Jesus was a Jew by birth and that cannot be denied or forgotten.

Shalom Israel.

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Electorate: 11:19am On Oct 17
OLAADEGBU:


Why do you believe you are a Christian? undecided

I owe you no explanation, I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ lives in me, the life which I know live with Christ I live by the faith of the son of God who loves me and gave himself for me. My relationship with Christ is both personal and eternal.

Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Electorate: 11:25am On Oct 17
MightySparrow:



Whatever the position of the writer, Christianity is still connected to the Jews not other race. This error made Catholic church approved killing the Jews. Jews was a Jew by birth and that cannot be denied or forgotten.

Shalom Israel.

The essential difference between Jews and Christians is that Christians accept Jesus as messiah and personal savior. Jesus is not part of Jewish theology. Amongst Jews, Jesus is not considered a divine being. Therefore all holidays that have a connection to the life of Jesus are not part of Jewish life and/or practice (Christmas, Easter, Lent, Advent, Palm Sunday, etc.).

Please show us the connection with Christianity after reading the above.

Firstly, I don't think you even understand what Christianity is about, Christianity is about living the live of Christ and his teachings, believing in Christ Jesus and acknowledgeing he is the son of God, something the Jews are totally against yet you are here talking about how Jews are connected to Christianity.

Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by tarboshi(m): 1:05pm On Oct 17
You are the real chest beating ignoramus.

Why do you assume Christians support Israel because they think Israel is a Christian country?

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:47pm On Oct 17
Electorate:


I owe you no explanation, I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ lives in me, the life which I know live with Christ I live by the faith of the son of God who loves me and gave himself for me. My relationship with Christ is both personal and eternal.

You go explain taya! cheesy
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by FxMasterz: 6:51pm On Oct 17
OLAADEGBU:


Why do you believe you are a Christian? undecided

If you were a Christian, then you'll know that christians know that Jews are not Christians. You'll also know that Christians support Jews for a different reason. The fact that you do not know these is proof that you're not a Christian.
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Steep(m): 7:34pm On Oct 17
Electorate:


The essential difference between Jews and Christians is that Christians accept Jesus as messiah and personal savior. Jesus is not part of Jewish theology. Amongst Jews, Jesus is not considered a divine being. Therefore all holidays that have a connection to the life of Jesus are not part of Jewish life and/or practice (Christmas, Easter, Lent, Advent, Palm Sunday, etc.).

Please show us the connection with Christianity after reading the above.

Firstly, I don't think you even understand what Christianity is about, Christianity is about living the live of Christ and his teachings, believing in Christ Jesus and acknowledgeing he is the son of God, something the Jews are totally against yet you are here talking about how Jews are connected to Christianity.
what are you talking about, though I don't support injustice but Israel has right to self defence.
Jesus christ is a jew, the apostles are jews, the prophets are jews, the gospel was first of all for the jews, and God still has plans for them in the future. Christians are connected to the Jewish promise through christ because salvation is for the jews. Replacement theology as thought by the Roman Catholic Church and others is false, the church did not replace the jews.

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Electorate: 8:15pm On Oct 17
Steep:
what are you talking about, though I don't support injustice but Israel has right to self defence.
Jesus christ is a jew, the apostles are jews, the prophets are jews, the gospel was first of all for the jews, and God still has plans for them in the future. Christians are connected to the Jewish promise through christ because salvation is for the jews. Replacement theology as thought by the Roman Catholic Church and others is false, the church did not replace the jews.

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Simple question, If salvation is of the Jews, then why do you say we are connected? Are you saying if salvation is of the unbelievers(Jews) are you not now admitting that the Jews are unbelievers and NOT Christians?

Salvation is only meant for unbelievers not Christians, Meaning you have agreed with me.

Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Steep(m): 8:47pm On Oct 17
Electorate:


Simple question, If salvation is of the Jews, then why do you say we are connected? Are you saying if salvation is of the unbelievers(Jews) are you not now admitting that the Jews are unbelievers and NOT Christians?

Salvation is only meant for unbelievers not Christians, Meaning you have agreed with me.
you don't even know what you are saying. The promise of salvation was specifically for the jews not any other it is through faith the Gentiles can connect to that promise. Salvation we are talking is for the Jewish nation. Salvation is of any other nationa apart from the Jewish nation.

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:20pm On Oct 17
Steep:
what are you talking about, though I don't support injustice but Israel has right to self defence.
Jesus christ is a jew, the apostles are jews, the prophets are jews, the gospel was first of all for the jews, and God still has plans for them in the future. Christians are connected to the Jewish promise through christ because salvation is for the jews. Replacement theology as thought by the Roman Catholic Church and others is false, the church did not replace the jews.

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

The Jewish Nation has been CURSED by God's Son so no natural Jew can be saved again but CHRISTIANS. God has abandoned their city for them after they rejected Jesus of Nazareth and from that time PEACE has deserted the land of the Jews!
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Steep(m): 2:34pm On Oct 18
MaxInDHouse:


The Jewish Nation has been CURSED by God's Son so no natural Jew can be saved again but CHRISTIANS. God has abandoned their city for them after they rejected Jesus of Nazareth and from that time PEACE has deserted the land of the Jews!
God still has plans to save them in the future.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

What happened to them is for a short time. Israel will have a spiritual revival.
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:58am On Oct 19
FxMasterz:


If you were a Christian, then you'll know that christians know that Jews are not Christians. You'll also know that Christians support Jews for a different reason. The fact that you do not know these is proof that you're not a Christian.

You are barking up the wrong tree here. A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument. cool
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Maximus692(m): 7:26am On Oct 19
Steep:

God still has plans to save them in the future.
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
What happened to them is for a short time. Israel will have a spiritual revival.

God has CONDEMNED that nation!

According to Jesus God's only begotten Son:

This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matthew 21:43

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!’” Matthew 23:37-39


All the future blessings God promised "Jews" is no longer about naturally born Jews but spiritual Jews who have become Jews through faith in Christ Jesus! Romans 2:25-29

According to what God promised that nation all the blessings will continue to be theirs when they welcome the Messiah and support the new covenant {Jeremiah 31:31-34} he came to establish which is to join him in going to preach and teach about God's Kingdom throughout the world {Matthew 28:18-20} but instead they condemned the chief agent and perfecter of faith (Christ Jesus) {Hebrews 12:2} and told a pagan ruler that his blood should come upon them and their descendants {Matthew 27:25} so just as God have forewarned their ancestors through Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} they rejected salvation {Act 4:18; 5:28} and so there is no salvation for that nation as long as they continue to kick against the only name given through which all men must be saved. Philippians 2:10; Act 4:12

For your information ten out of the twelve tribes of Israel are lost till today with no traces as to their whereabout the remaining two known as Jews just recovered that place they are occupying now due to support from the UN but they keep on showing displeasure in the name God Almighty gave mankind for our salvation therefore since they have rejected the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} they can never know PEACE or let me put it the way God said in the Bible: they will not enter into His REST! Psalms 95:11; Hebrews 3:11; 4:5

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Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Auki: 8:29am On Oct 19
Efuaye:
It is not because of Christianity that Christians support the Jews or Israel; rather, they do so fully aware of the Abrahamic covenant. It is prophetic and biblical to support Israel regardless of whether they believe Jesus is the Messiah.

So we should always support Jews even incase of injustice and wrong doing since it is Prophetic?
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Steep(m): 9:09am On Oct 19
Maximus692:


God has CONDEMNED that nation!

According to Jesus God's only begotten Son:

This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matthew 21:43

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!’” Matthew 23:37-39


All the future blessings God promised "Jews" is no longer about naturally born Jews but spiritual Jews who have become Jews through faith in Christ Jesus! Romans 2:25-29

According to what God promised that nation all the blessings will continue to be theirs when they welcome the Messiah and support the new covenant {Jeremiah 31:31-34} he came to establish which is to join him in going to preach and teach about God's Kingdom throughout the world {Matthew 28:18-20} but instead they condemned the chief agent and perfecter of faith (Christ Jesus) {Hebrews 12:2} and told a pagan ruler that his blood should come upon them and their descendants {Matthew 27:25} so just as God have forewarned their ancestors through Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} they rejected salvation {Act 4:18; 5:28} and so there is no salvation for that nation as long as they continue to kick against the only name given through which all men must be saved. Philippians 2:10; Act 4:12

For your information ten out of the twelve tribes of Israel are lost till today with no traces as to their whereabout the remaining two known as Jews just recovered that place they are occupying now due to support from the UN but they keep on showing displeasure in the name God Almighty gave mankind for our salvation therefore since they have rejected the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} they can never know PEACE or let me put it the way God said in the Bible: they will not enter into His REST! Psalms 95:11; Hebrews 3:11; 4:5
All these are just temporary.

Scriptures says God has not cast off his people.

God will restore them, the 12 tribes of Israel will be re gathered at God's timing.

Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Maximus692(m): 9:32am On Oct 19
Steep:
All these are just temporary.

Scriptures says God has not cast off his people.

God will restore them, the 12 tribes of Israel will be re gathered at God's timing.

Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

The scripture you quote is referring to people throughout the earth who have faith like Jacob which qualifies them to be called Israelites by faith in Christ Jesus as regards those rejecting God's Son they are lost forever!
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:37am On Oct 19
Steep:
All these are just temporary.

Scriptures says God has not cast off his people.

God will restore them, the 12 tribes of Israel will be re gathered at God's timing.

Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

The one coming is Christ Jesus but Israel as a nation rejected him that's why they are cast out forever it's only individuals among them who repented that will be saved {Act 2:37-40} but as a nation, NO!
The true God will only relate with faithful people not just descendants of Jacob, before God promised the Israelites that He will always remain faithful to the nation because of His
friendship with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but after the descendants of Jacob consistently proved to be faithless God said there is no more transfered blessings for faithless people only those who proved faithful will be blessed and as for the wicked each will die for their wickedness {Ezekiel 18:19-20} so how do you think God will continue proving loyal to people that despised faith in the blood of His only begotten Son? John 3:16 smiley
Re: Most Ignorant Christians Support Israel Not Knowing Jews Are Not Christians. by Iamanoited: 2:44pm On Oct 19
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