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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by mytime24(f): 8:32am On Oct 23
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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by omooba05: 8:34am On Oct 23
People that destroyed Nigeria are now coming out claiming saints . Big Punishment is awaiting this demon in hell fire..Baba oshi

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by HellVictorinho9: 8:35am On Oct 23
Godfullsam:


The only way I will support an igbos presidency is if he will divide the country the very day he assumes office.



Nigeria is divided already and tinubu knows dat
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Btruth: 8:39am On Oct 23
Baba who send you? Your voice is bitter to the youths of Nigeria. Go relax abeg.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Thewesterner(m): 8:40am On Oct 23
GOFRONT:
Baba be baring his mind black n white to Nigerians back2back.

Watch as someone would come on this thread to say "Baba talks too much to his/her liking these days""
Baring his mind black n white? NOW abi? All na politics my brother cos he was once a president.

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Btruth: 8:41am On Oct 23
Mille:
He is free to relocate to anambra and sit-at home every Monday, and every other days the dimwit in Finland deems fit.

Not surprised though. A former president who was against the Southwest during his presidency. Can't even point to any infrastructural development in his home state.
Baba Oloriburuku nii jare

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Godfullsam(m): 8:44am On Oct 23
Brendaniel:


You think I care about an Igbo presidency?

I just want a country that works, even if the president is from Afghanistan, who cares, I'm all for the division of Nigeria because we don't share the same ideology, Igbo presidency or not, you guys think an average Igbo man really cares who is president ....


Stop being hypocritical Mr man, you claimed an average igbo man doesn't care about who is the president but obi got 97% votes in the SE.

I hate hypocrisy

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by GeneralPula: 8:48am On Oct 23
cybernaut:
Oil well owners . No oil in the southwest. One Nigeria in need.
Says who? Which village you typing from? The oil in Ondo nko?

Let even say no oil in SW.. And what if so?

Try asking your elders how the west was doing before oil was discovered..

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by OmoOshodi(m): 8:50am On Oct 23
Baba were...over time le n lo
Abacha uncompleted project..... oloriburuku

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Brendaniel: 8:53am On Oct 23
Godfullsam:



Stop being hypocritical Mr man, you claimed an average igbo man doesn't care about who is the president but obi got 97% votes in the SE.

I hate hypocrisy

We voted for him because we saw him as the best.

When we did the same for OBJ, Yaradua, GEJ and Atiku, it wasn't desperation for Igbo presidency abi?

That has always been the south east voting pattern since 1999, once we believe in you, it is block votes....

So don't come and twist anything here, we saw Peter Obi as the best among the top 4 and we gave him block votes just like the others...
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by mrblessed(m): 8:56am On Oct 23
Sir, it's no longer about you.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Baxilexi(m): 9:00am On Oct 23
State of origin should be replaced with place of birth.

Inter-marriages between royal families of different tribes should become a norm. It was practiced in Europe and strengthened ties between regions.

Certificate of indigenship should seize to exist.

Only then can people truly embrace a national identity.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Blitzking: 9:01am On Oct 23
dre11:



https://dailytrust.com/obasanjo-i-would-rather-belong-to-nigeria-than-oodua-republic/
Human are very foolish even among families they fight just to share the wealth created by their rich dad and you expect a country or over 35 States not to fight and feel marginalised. Even if nigeria decides to split into 36 pieces some local govt will feel they are bringing more to the table...when I am even thinking of the whole Africa uniting as one big country.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by onuman: 9:02am On Oct 23
Mille:
He is free to relocate to anambra and sit-at home every Monday, and every other days the dimwit in Finland deems fit.

Not surprised though. A former president who was against the Southwest during his presidency. Can't even point to any infrastructural development in his home state.

The dimwit in Finland is rented by anti-Igbo agents as a 5th Columnist to undermine the desires of people of the southeast.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Godfullsam(m): 9:05am On Oct 23
Brendaniel:


We voted for him because we saw him as the best.

When we did the same for OBJ, Yaradua, GEJ and Atiku, it wasn't desperation for Igbo presidency abi?

That has always been the south east voting pattern since 1999, once we believe in you, it is block votes....

So don't come and twist anything here, we saw Peter Obi as the best among the top 4 and we gave him block votes just like the others...

Did Obasanjo get block votes in the SE?
Stop these lies pls. He got votes, but he didn't get block votes. Yaradua, Atiku and got more votes than Obj in the SE because their running mates are from SE and this further butress the fact that the igbos care about who is the president as against you opinion.

You said peter obi was the best among the 4 contestants, but this the same peter obi all of you were insulting when he was the governor of Anambra state.

This is hypocrisy my friend.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by stanluiz(m): 9:18am On Oct 23
Godfullsam:


The only way I will support an igbos presidency is if he will divide the country the very day he assumes office.

Why are you waiting for an igbo man to do why you people has swear you won't for them ?

Tell tinubu to divide the country because be says in 1990s that he doesn't believe in Nigeria.

If Tinubu cannot divide Nigeria then let him at least restructure and decentralize Nigeria into true federalism so that states and regions will have autonomy over their land and thier economy.

States and regions will have power and autonomy over their education, health, land, power, ports , police. Etc

Abuja Will only face defense and foreign policy.

Tinubu should do that because he campaign with it.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by MN07: 9:32am On Oct 23
Brendaniel:


Do you like something that is not working?

If Nigeria is working like other countries making progress, do you think the Igbos will want to leave?

The Igbos have left leadership for you guys for over 50 years and yet see what you guys are doing, if the Igbos decide to go you people will call for war immediately, MNK is still in prison till date while while Wadume a terrorist is free from prison.

OK, the Igbos say they should handle the leadership since you people have failed for over 5 decades, you people still say no.

What exactly do you people want from the Igbos?

The igbos are not united. Otherwise they would left nigeria together in harmony to start afresh somewhere far away from Nigeria but as unit.

Let this people perish.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by jaxxy(m): 9:33am On Oct 23
Well spoken but bigots will take offence.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by gidgiddy: 9:43am On Oct 23
CodeTemplarr:
Smalller nations are forming defence n business alliances. Big ones want to disintegrate.

It's better to be smaller but progress, than to be bigger but be going backwards

Bigger dies not mean better

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Brendaniel: 9:47am On Oct 23
Godfullsam:


Did Obasanjo get block votes in the SE?
Stop these lies pls. He got votes, but he didn't get block votes. Yaradua, Atiku and got more votes than Obj in the SE because their running mates are from SE and this further butress the fact that the igbos care about who is the president as against you opinion.

You said peter obi was the best among the 4 contestants, but this the same peter obi all of you were insulting when he was the governor of Anambra state.

This is hypocrisy my friend.

Firstly I know you guys are quite good at how to lie and twist history, I never said OBJ got more votes than the others, all I said was once the Igbos believe in you we give you block votes, the percentage might vary.

Then secondly that we have voted other regional candidates with over 90% support and please Yaradua's vice was not from the south east but from south south except you want to claim now that south south and south east are brothers which you people always call a lie....

Thirdly the screenshot below shows the votes from the south west for OBJ against Ojukwu and Buhari when Olu Falae was not on ballot, you people gave OBJ over 90% from each of your states except Lagos because Tinubu at the time was fighting OBJ but you won't call it tribalism, in fact you people don't even talk about it but Igbos did the same for Obi and you all are shouting tribalism...

Fourthly, the stats below says otherwise about the performance for Obi compared to Tinubu and Fashola...


Read the article below, I'm putting the full article for others to see and not just the link to further buttress my point, the way you guys lie and twist history is one major reason I want this country to divide into different countries...

Tinubu supporters who have been lying to the country since 2015, have also been lying that the South East voted along tribal lines in the 2023 presidential election rather than who they believed was the best presidential candidate.


Let me show you the voting patterns of the South East since 1999, just to set the records straight in case you haven't realized that Tinubu supporters are lying to you to cover up for their poor choices since 2015 fueled mostly by tribal and/or religious bigotry.

Breakdown of SE votes % since 1999:

1999 (Obasanjo vs Olu Falae): 86% (Obasanjo), 14% (Falae).

2003 (Obasanjo vs. Buhari vs Ojukwu): 65% (Obasanjo), 28% (Ojukwu), 7% (Buhari). Note that Buhari had an Igbo running mate.

2007 (Yar'Adua vs. Buhari): 97% (Yar'Adua), 3% (Buhari). Note that Buhari had an Igbo running mate again.

2011 (Goodluck vs Buhari): 98% (Goodluck), 2% (Buhari). Buhari's % didn't change much despite not having an Igbo running mate.

2015 (Goodluck vs Buhari): 93% (Goodluck), 7% (Buhari). Buhari's % increased despite not having an Igbo running mate

2019 (Buhari vs Atiku): 89% (Atiku), 11% (Buhari). Buhari's % increased again despite Atiku having an Igbo running mate

2023 (Peter Obi vs. Tinubu vs. Atiku): 91% (PO), 5% (Tinubu), 4% (Atiku). PO had slightly less % in the SE compared to GEJ and Yar'Adua.


Note the following:

1. Ojukwu had only 28% of the votes in the SE in 2003. Why only 28% if this was about tribe? Ojukwu didn't even win any state in the SE at the presidential election.

2. Buhari had Igbo running mates in 2003 and 2007. Why only 7% and 3% respectively if there was a tribal correlation?

3. Buhari who was losing very badly in the SE with Igbo running mates, increased his % against Atiku who had an Igbo running mate.

Meanwhile from 2007 till 2023, these Igbos contested at the presidential election:

2007: Orji Uzo Kalu (Only 3% of votes in the SE)

2011: Pat Utomi (less than 1% of votes in the SE)

2019: Kingsley Moghalu (less than 1% of votes in the SE)

2023: Peter Obi (91% of votes in the SE)

Show me again where tribe played any significant role in the SE more than any other region in Nigeria

https://www.nairaland.com/8217099/voting-patterns-south-east-1999/1

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Brendaniel: 9:53am On Oct 23
MN07:


The igbos are not united. Otherwise they would left nigeria together in harmony to start afresh somewhere far away from Nigeria but as unit.

Let this people perish.

When they fought war for 3 and half years they were disunited abi?

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Konquest: 9:55am On Oct 23
dre11:


Former President Olusegun Obasanjo on Tuesday said he is better off as a Nigerian than a member of the Oodua Republic.

He spoke amid the growing agitation for the creation of the Yoruba nation.

Obasanjo, while receiving a delegation of the League of Northern Democrats led by a former governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau, at his residence in Abeokuta, Ogun State, identified regionalism practised before the attainment of independence in 1960 as the foundation of the country’s prolonged lack of cohesion.

He advocated merit, capacity and ability to deliver as some of the factors that must be considered in electing or appointing leaders, against the question of which geopolitical zone should produce who or what.

He said: “It is high time we began working for the national interest. Yes, you have identified your group as the League of Northern Democrats but how I wish you call your group National League of Democrats, because where you come from should not be a problem.

Where I was born should not be the enemy of my being a Nigerian. It will be great to be a Nigerian than to be a member of the Republic of Oodua.

“I am undoubtedly proud to be a Yoruba, but my being a Nigerian should not be the enemy of my being a Yoruba. We must get the best man for the job, it doesn’t matter where he comes from. We must get our acts together.


https://dailytrust.com/obasanjo-i-would-rather-belong-to-nigeria-than-oodua-republic/
The Septuagenarian Nigerian Civil War veteran and former military Head of State/civilian President for 8 years is just being politically correct here and I sharply diverge with his take on the regional system of government.

Like all systems of governance, regionalism certainly had some of it's issues within a multi-ethnic country which could have been smoothened out if democracy had NOT been truncated in 1966, but some of the greatest leaps in socio-economic development from the early 1950s right to the 1960s were achieved under the regional government structure. The WORSE kind of government is military rule because corruption festers under the HIGHLY corrupt and brutal military dictatorships and their cronies who immediately become overnight multi-millionaires and you do NOT have the full rights to speak up and ask questions (otherwise you will be assassinated via parcel bombs and live bullets or jailed after torturing you with electric shocks and more as seen from what happened in Nigeria in the late 1980s right into the darkest military dictatorships of the 1990s) unlike in a democracy.

The Old Western Region (which further split into the Mid-Western Region after a 1963 referendum), the Old Northern Region, and the Old Eastern Region were multiethnic regions and they experienced educational, political and economic developments at their own paces with some taxes paid to the central government and these were done based off of the FACT that Nigeria had a manageable population of less than 50 million back in the day.

The Old Western Region led by the iconic London School of Economics and Political Science-educated lawyer and politician Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, and his Action Group party team of foresighted individuals right from the early 1950s through to the 1960s were the FIRST to establish the first TV station in Nigeria, the FIRST two tallest skyscrapers in Nigeria were built in Ibadan (Cocoa House) and Lagos Island (Western House), the first stadium known as Liberty Stadium, several iconic housing estates starting with Bodija Estate in Ibadan, an investment group was established called the Oodua Group.

The icing on the cake was the establishment by Chief Obafemi Awolowo of several iconic Industrial Estates in Ilupeju, Ikeja, Iganmu, Isolo, Oluyole Industrial Estate in Ibadan, etc, to facilitate the manufacturing and export of commodities and products through the sea ports at Apapa. NOTE that Ikeja, Iganmu, Ilupeju, Isolo, and practically more than 95 percent of the total landmass of the current Lagos State of today was in the Old Western Region and under the governance and development of Chief Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, and his Action Group party team. It was due to the creation of 12 new states on May 27, 1967 by General Yakubu Gowon, GCFR, that these areas of Ikorodu, Epe, Ibeju-Lekki, Ilupeju, Badagry, Ikeja, Agege, Isolo, Ojo, Amuwo, Mushin, etc, were carved out from the Old Western Region and merged with Lagos Island and the small parts of Lagos Mainland (that shared borders with the Western Region) to create the new Lagos State.

These FIRST-MOVER innovative achievements by the Old Western Region triggered the competitive desire in other regions of Nigeria from the Old Northern Region and the Old Eastern Region, to copy the positive things they saw the dynamic leaders in the Old Western Region doing and that was a healthy development. The Trans-Amadi Industrial layout in Port Harcourt and the Aba Industrial hub were established soon after in the Old Eastern Region, and the Kakuri Industrial Estate in Kaduna was also established in the Old Northern Region. Agricultural and non-agricultural commodities were exported out of the Old Northern Region and the Old Eastern Region by cargo trains on rail lines running to the sea port or river port areas of Nigeria.

When the Mid-Western Region took off in 1963, more developments took place there in the educational, agricultural, and other aspects of the economy.

Taxes of course were paid to the central government with a large part of the income generated staying within the regions.

So, the comments by OBJ during the visit of the Northern group led by Shekarau were just politically correct statements from someone who has emotional attachments to a unitary system of government he benefited from without any real historical foundations.

The Sardauna of Sakwato did say in response to Zik's comments back in the 1940s that "We must learn to understand our differences" and that's a FACT. In most Western countries and non-Western countries (such as the United, UK, Canada, etc), the demographic distribution for ethnic groups, religions or faiths and more are captured for population censuses to aid proper planning and economic development, BUT Nigeria under the corrupt military dictatorships removed those demographic specifics just to paint the image of political correctness and give a false sense of unity. With advanced biometric technologies now available using facial recognition, eyes recognition, finger prints, etc, for international travel purposes, these demographics can easily be captured unlike back in the day when these could be manipulated.

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by CodeTemplarr: 10:19am On Oct 23
gidgiddy:


It's better to be smaller but progress, than to be bigger but be going backwards

Bigger dies not mean better
and smaller doesn't mean forward neither.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by AbujaLagos: 10:32am On Oct 23
GeneralPula:

I don’t agree with regionalism brought us to where we are today. Free education started under regionalism. Each region was able to make use of whatever they have to their advantage..

There was nothing like Nepotism! There was nothing like blaming one FG for everything. Regions with growth tendency grew what they could grow..

The only thing is some regions were not productive. They had nothing going on. If we go back to regionalism today, parasitic regions would get exposed..
exactly

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by gidgiddy: 10:33am On Oct 23
CodeTemplarr:
and smaller doesn't mean forward neither.

Well, it's worth giving a try since bigger has not moved forward since 1960

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by CodeTemplarr: 10:39am On Oct 23
gidgiddy:


Well, it's worth giving a try since bigger has not moved forward since 1960
smaller was overrun by colonialist. Whichever one we choose, staying strong is not negotiable. Look at NATO, an alliance of big and small nations who share substantial values and appreciate the vanity of warfare.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by meobizy(f): 10:39am On Oct 23
He made it known in 1967 - 1970. Nobody is surprised.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Ringstonermask: 10:53am On Oct 23
Mille:
He is free to relocate to anambra and sit-at home every Monday, and every other days the dimwit in Finland deems fit.

Not surprised though. A former president who was against the Southwest during his presidency. Can't even point to any infrastructural development in his home state.
e was d Best president. Ona dey always fight anyone dat is against Tinubu
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by Ironbull: 11:42am On Oct 23
See as obidient slowpoke shift the ground now their grandfather has said he believee in Nigeria than secessionist so ipob, ugm, and obidientts oya insult him he is your grandpa of bitterness.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by gidgiddy: 11:42am On Oct 23
CodeTemplarr:
smaller was overrun by colonialist. Whichever one we choose, staying strong is not negotiable. Look at NATO, an alliance of big and small nations who share substantial values and appreciate the vanity of warfare.

NATO is not a country and countries like Gambia, Botswana and Namibia, all in Africa, with populations not up 3 million people are yet to be overrun.

We are all wasting our time with Nigeria and it is time to do away with the unworkable British colonial contraption, and go to smaller units that might work

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Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by CodeTemplarr: 11:48am On Oct 23
gidgiddy:


NATO is not a country and countries like Gambia, Botswana and Namibia, all in Africa, with populations not up 3 million people are yet to be overrun.

We are all wasting our time with Nigeria and it is time to do away with the unworkable British colonial contraption, and go to smaller units that might work
where did you see that NATO(an alliance of big n small nations) is a country ?
Be opening your eyes.
Re: Obasanjo: I Would Rather Belong To Nigeria Than Oodua Republic by gidgiddy: 11:57am On Oct 23
Obasanjo, a Yoruba man, would rather belong to Nigeria than Oduduwa Republic

Sunday Igboho, another Yoruba man, would rather belong to Oduduwa Republic than Nigeria

That's why you settle such issues with referendum, rather than war or violence

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