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Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Nobody: 11:01pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: hmmm what challenge exactly? ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Nobody: 11:02pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: pray tell, how did it appear since i now believe God didnt create it either . . . help us oh "god" thehomer. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Enigma(m): 11:10pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: As if you have any worthwhile points to address. ![]() A militant fundamentalist atheist and his beliefs (including some of the daftest beliefs ever known to mankind) saying Christian beliefs are irrational. ![]() Anyway, as I always say, anywhere you see an evangelical atheist even on his own you see the worst case of the Dunning-Kruger effect. ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 11:17pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
davidylan: Are you ready for the resurrection of some threads? No, my sense of intelligence is well tuned based on the knowledge I have. You on the other hand seem unable to keep track of what you know, what you don't know and what you know you don't know. You know I'm referring to. Go ahead, say it. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 11:19pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
davidylan: Now now. Unlike the God you're used to, I don't desire worship. For you to know, it would require extensive reading and many hours of contemplation among other things. Are you ready for such an undertaking? |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Nobody: 11:21pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: Nah it really doesnt take that much. There is only 1 single ingredient to make an atheist - a dedicated hatred of the christian God. Much of the "knowledge" you claim is merely plagiarised from the ill-thought musings of others as justification for your stance. That would be a total waste of time on my part. With regard to the earlier comment, utter nonsense. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 11:23pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
Enigma: ![]() ![]() Carefully note what I'm not interested in for your reading comprehension. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Nobody: 11:25pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: It really doesnt require that much dancing around the point. What is your succinct opinion of how the world was formed? Very simple question requiring a simple answer . . . understanding that answer is another issue entirely and no one has asked you to prove it. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Enigma(m): 11:29pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: Me a militant fundamentalist atheist? Shirley, this one has gone gaga! ![]() The one way the post can make sense is that I am a religionist just like the militant/fundamentalist/evangelical atheists are religionists. ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 11:31pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
davidylan: Actually it does. I see you're not ready to learn. Oh well just what is to be expected. Besides, you need to realize that people don't hate what they don't believe is present though they can hate the idea of it. Ill thought musings? ![]() davidylan: Learning is a waste of time on your part? Hmm so sad. In the words of the Chinese, "Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere." Yet you willfully reject it. davidylan: What part? |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 11:33pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
davidylan: Ah but you see, in your ignorance, you think it just has a simple answer. Really, you need some background knowledge to even begin. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 11:36pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
Enigma: Wow just wow. You don't even understand your own post. Carefully read through your post and discover what diagnosis you made. I'm sometimes just embarrassed ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Enigma(m): 11:38pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
^^^ Your comprehension has always been poor; remember, that is why you were named Mr Dunce which so far I have been trying not to use simply out of kindness. ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Nobody: 11:38pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
thehomer: More circular piffle. You can never get an atheist to admit his belief in one single sentence. Perhaps its because 99% of them require cutting and pasting the thoughts of others. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Enigma(m): 11:41pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
^^^ And usually they are just cutting and pasting (or otherwise regurgitating) the thoughts of very poor thinkers if not indeed out and out morons. ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Nobody: 11:45pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
Enigma: No surprises there . . . if they didnt have google i doubt any of them would be confident enough to post here. Thank God for the internet. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by mazaje(m): 9:04am On Dec 19, 2011 |
Here we go again. . . .People that believe in the mythologies and folklore of ancients Jews and Greeks have no business calling others poor thinkers, since all what they are defending and parroting are just mere opinions, fantasies and cleverly invented mythologies of ancient men that thought their God lives in the sky and they can reach to him if only they build a tower high enough. . . .What you are defending are not even you thougts but the fantasies and mythologies invented by the ancients yet you still use the word poor thinkers on others?. . . . ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by REPSNIG: 9:16am On Dec 19, 2011 |
what is a tribute to Hitchens doing in the Religion Section. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Purist(m): 9:49am On Dec 19, 2011 |
I really don't think a tribute to Hitchens in this section is misplaced. Hitchens was perhaps best known for his religious views, however anti. Agreed, he was many things, but his religious views were arguably the most pronounced. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Purist(m): 10:13am On Dec 19, 2011 |
frosbel: When asked sometimes last year about his thoughts about the afterlife and whether he'd convert at his death bed, knowing he would die soon anyway, here's what he said: "I would say it fractionally increases my contempt for the false consolation element of religion and my dislike for the dictatorial and totalitarian part of it. "It’s considered perfectly normal in this society to approach dying people who you don’t know but who are unbelievers and say, ‘Now are you gonna change your mind?’ That is considered almost a polite question. "And as you know, there's a long history of fraud about this - people claim that Darwin had a death bed recantation, they made up lies about Thomas Paine, it goes on all the time. . ." See video below: [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbBVB66DC5k&feature=related[/flash] |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 3:30pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Enigma: Yet another off point post. Didn't you see the self diagnosis you made or you just didn't understand your own post? I could help you point out the diagnosis you know. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 3:31pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
davidylan: Maybe or maybe it is because the ideas being discussed are complex. And from the looks of things, you don't seem ready to learn. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 3:32pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Enigma: Hmm so leading scientists, writers and orators past and present are very poor thinkers or morons? This coming from a poor thinker? Not surprising. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 3:33pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
davidylan: Yes thank God for the Internet and the printing press before it. For some reason, such advances bother you religious believers deeply. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Purist(m): 4:24pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Still - and in addition to my earlier comment - I haven't seen anyone here rebuke frosbel, a well known Christian fanatic on Nairaland, for also creating a thread about Hitchens right here in the Religion section. Even more, the actual author of the tribute in that thread is a Christian blogger who posted the original article on his Christian blog. There have been a few other religionists who have commented on his death, like Rick Warren on Twitter, like this blogger, like the fool in the video below, who claimed God sent Hitchens to hell because he loved him, etc. So I see no reason why thehomer is being attacked for doing what even religious people have been doing as well, unless the argument is that an atheist shouldn't pay tribute to a fellow atheist in the Religion section, which isn't a sound argument seeing that even religious people are doing the exact same thing. [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FmIMAA46A8&feature=related[/flash] |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by Purist(m): 4:27pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Even Google are paying their own "tribute" right here on this page. ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by DeepSight(m): 5:59pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
thehomer: The truth in this matter is actually rather simple, and dodging the simple question posed looks very escapist and lame, and might I respectfully add: cowardly. I say this because if i were in your position the one-line answer to David's question would simply be as follows - "From the point of a singularity, the universe following the initial expansion called the big b[b]a[/b]ng has expanded outwards in a flow of matter of energy, the movement of which has resulted in the formaltion of stars and galaxies, and colliding rocks around stars coalesce to form planets such as the earth, which under the right conditions could also harbour life." There is nothing overwhelmingly complex about that, and claiming as such rather makes the claimant appear as though he is in awe of elementary concepts. It is not necessarily true that either David or I would accept this as a complete answer, but it at least deals with the basics without unnecessary cop-outs. From such an answer, David could then respond appropriately, or was your intention only to brick-bat puerile sarcasm? I say this because David obviously knows your ideas on this subject: he asked simply to elicit a working answer that he could effectively challange. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by DeepSight(m): 6:05pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Purist: I doubt that Hitchen's atheism was his distinguising feature: here was a celebrated writer in many respects. Our own Wole Soyinka is well known to be perhaps atheistic or pagan - and I doubt that his death should elicit tributes on a (largely Christian) Religion Board. Nevertheless, well put. I concede the point. |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 10:37pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Deep Sight: Making such an accusation on my response demonstrates a sort of deep ignorance about what we know and how we've come to know it. Deep Sight: Well, good for you. Now you can tell that to davidylan and see how well he accepts it. Maybe you don't realize it but in that statement, you have expressed the ideas of theoretical physicists, astro physicists and cosmologists with the beginnings of the ideas of biologists. Deep Sight: You don't think what you said above is a complex idea? Maybe you and I have different ideas of what it takes for an idea to be considered complex. Since you both probably won't accept it a complete answer, what do I do? Give you complete lectures on the fields involved or send you to the works of people who have looked into the phenomena under discussion? Don't you think that would take many hours of work and a dedication to learning? No that wasn't my intention though it appears to be yours and davidylan's. Take a look at his posts. Deep Sight: Rubbish. If he knows my ideas on this subject, then why not pose a more focused question? And at the very least, why doesn't he give the impression that he is willing to put in the hours to learn new things rather than making all sorts of unintelligent noise? |
Re: A Tribute To Christopher Hitchens by thehomer: 10:41pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Deep Sight: Whose attacks on religion were widely known and celebrated. Deep Sight: You think so? Also note that Wole Soyinka isn't quite as vocal as Hitchens on his ideas against religions generally and the large monotheistic religions. Deep Sight: Good for you. |
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