mamaafrik:

Just shut it ,you should have ask God for the logical reason for Razor affecting Samsons physical strength and the relationship between trumpet and Jericho wall falling.

You are shallow spiritually

You are mentally retarded spiritually to believe that ringing tone disrupts the flow of Gods anointing.....

That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
Because of one person mistake, u now make nonsense of the conformists. That is not discipline but utter nonsense

revived2:
Wetin una no fit do for shrine

He lie trail said distraction cuts off his flow of anointing

And he told the congregation to put their phone on silent


While he was preaching another phone rang again🤦

What nonsense anointing

Anything you do people must talk!

A good number of so-called Christians are uncultured, if he sends out the person, it is you guys that will complain that he does not have such a right, now he excuses himself you guys says he is proud

wetin una want naaa

we no longer embrace discipline and that is why society is now a mess

@Op

floss:
Abeg na pride… even if I’m in a meeting with tinubu and I’m expecting a biz deal with Elon Musk, I’ll take the call in front of tinubu.. ringing alone is just too soft… some people forming assistant God over a minor issue, as if at the end of the day the business man (pastor) won’t collect tithes and offering?

You'd choose to dishonour someone because a supposedly more influential person gave you a phone call? Oga you're not fit to talk on this matter abeg.

Well, indiscipline on the part of some members of his congregation.

He even requested phones be set aside earlier.

You can imagine such indiscipline inside the church where the individual(s) may be seeking 'unwarranted favours'. These are the same set of people who would for whatever reason refuse to join queues in the mall, fuel station, disobey traffic laws, etc, but expect their leaders to sacrifice for them. Some even carry their kids along while acting irresponsibly.

The average Nigerian needs thorough reorientation.

Your phone should be mute/silent when in places of worship, lectures, meetings, when you visit official/office spaces.

This separates the enlightened/cultured individual from the average mediocre!

DrDoc:




Your entire comments iss filled with contradictions. You don't have self worth, identity and convictions of yourself about what is and is not. Please fix the tornado inside your unstable self before you judge another human being. Unstbale being

The bible says you should not argue with fools lest you become like them , but i will clear ur doubt one last time.You are only pained by the truth and there's not a single contradiction in what I said. Being a pastor or any member of the body of christ is not only a calling but a responsibility. The Holy spirit in you allows you to suppress the fleshy desires of pride and anger. For a pastor to say phone calls in church disrupt his anointing is an insult to the work of Jesus and the fruits of the spirit & as christainns you must call out the pastor just as Paul called-out Peter when he was diverting from the gospel. What if someone was under the yoke of evil and needed his sermon to become alive again? What if someone was actually suicidal & came to church that day as a last hope for grace & love from the gospel? Thr pastor is working for christ and not himself, therefore he has no authority no to teach the word he was commissioned to do. And yes whose aim is to stop the hearing of the word or the gospel? The devil

DestinedForGrea:

You'd choose to dishonour someone because a supposedly more influential person gave you a phone call? Oga you're not fit to talk on this matter abeg.

So I should mute my phone on what feeds my family because I’m listening to your useless sermon of begging for money as a business man (pastor) because you’re standing on a podium, but you will still open your useless mouth to ask for tithe and offering… no pastor have right to stop you from taking calls inside the church since they’ll still open their filthy mouths to ask for tithes and offering… As a business man (pastor) standing on a podium, it’s your duty to condole the excesses of your members as long as you depend on their tithes and offering for survival… if not you’re not qualified to talk shit because a phone rang… and don’t tell me about having regards for the church and God make ogun no kee you… it’s the religious heads and Daddy GOs that scattered Christianity and religion,…

I didn’t see your comments when that criminal said he DRINKS TEA WITH GOD… you members are as gullible as your leaders

nonsense!!! its the idiots that are giving such people relevance

PlasmaTV:
Would your phone ring in the presence of the president/governor?

Would it ring in the presence f Biden or Trump?

The president can make you rich in one seconds. God cannot make you rich in a lifetime.

advanceDNA:


He left for those who believe in discipline?? Listen to yourself man...so how about those whose phone ddnt ring? Pple came all the to be blessed man....
Y'all are just justifying petty, impatient, poor anger management behaviour

Read it again, he left the pulpit for those who believe in indiscipline.....u never know how some Christians de behave sha....once you don de near Church premises for any service, a man who believes in discipline should silence his mobile phone before walking into the auditorium.

If na for Orthodox churches, na Dem indiscipline folks go battle am out with the ushers.

floss:


So I should mute my phone on what feeds my family because I’m listening to your useless sermon of begging for money as a business man (pastor) because you’re standing on a podium, but you will still open your useless mouth to ask for tithe and offering… no pastor have right to stop you from taking calls inside the church since they’ll still open their filthy mouths to ask for tithes and offering… As a business man (pastor) standing on a podium, it’s your duty to condole the excesses of your members as long as you depend on their tithes and offering for survival… if not you’re not qualified to talk shit because a phone rang… and don’t tell me about having regards for the church and God make ogun no kee you… it’s the religious heads and Daddy GOs that scattered Christianity and religion,…

I didn’t see your comments when that criminal said he DRINKS TEA WITH GOD… you members are as gullible as your leaders

Look how you're confidently spitting crap.

I bet you don't even know Jack about the Bible and what it says about honouring pastors. When I say pastors, I don't mean the ones you lot see in social media and use as the benchmark for genuine pastors. I'm talking about those who diligently labour to make sure they feed their sheep with sound spiritual knowledge.

Na una go carry money dey spend on frivolities; women, club and senseless parties. But when you see believers giving to their pastors and to the church to sponsor God's work, na una go raise hell on earth. You people should leave Christians alone and stop attacking the church.

If you or any of your acquaintances have been scammed by fake pastors, then it's because they chose to be gullible and fell in the wribg hands. That does not call for generalization and stereotyping.

blahc007:

Read it again, he left the pulpit for those who believe in indiscipline.....u never know how some Christians de behave sha....once you don de near Church premises for any service, a man who believes in discipline should silence his mobile phone before walking into the auditorium.

If na for Orthodox churches, na Dem indiscipline folks go battle am out with the ushers.

U are kust justifying bad behavior...pastors came because of the pple..not the other way round....he's just feeling overly important and expecting too much respect

43Ronin:

The bible says you should not argue with fools lest you become like them , but i will clear ur doubt one last time.You are only pained by the truth and there's not a single contradiction in what I said. Being a pastor or any member of the body of christ is not only a calling but a responsibility. The Holy spirit in you allows you to suppress the fleshy desires of pride and anger. For a pastor to say phone calls in church disrupt his anointing is an insult to the work of Jesus and the fruits of the spirit & as christainns you must call out the pastor just as Paul called-out Peter when he was diverting from the gospel. What if someone was under the yoke of evil and needed his sermon to become alive again? What if someone was actually suicidal & came to church that day as a last hope for grace & love from the gospel? Thr pastor is working for christ and not himself, therefore he has no authority no to teach the word he was commissioned to do. And yes whose aim is to stop the hearing of the word or the gospel? The devil

Seek help

DestinedForGrea:

Look how you're confidently spitting crap.

I bet you don't even know Jack about the Bible and what it says about honouring pastors. When I say pastors, I don't mean the ones you lot see in social media and use as the benchmark for genuine pastors. I'm talking about those who diligently labour to make sure they feed their sheep with sound spiritual knowledge.

Na una go carry money dey spend on frivolities; women, club and senseless parties. But when you see believers giving to their pastors and to the church to sponsor God's work, na una go raise hell on earth. You people should leave Christians alone and stop attacking the church.

If you or any of your acquaintances have been scammed by fake pastors, then it's because they chose to be gullible and fell in the wribg hands. That does not call for generalization and stereotyping.

Cut the bull shit you’re spitting out, who and who are the real pastors that laboured, point me to the direction of just one, the one that DRINKS TEA WITH GOD every day, isn’t he qualified to be used as a benchmark? …. Abi the one that resides in port harcourt that his members are praying to every Sunday that’ was an apprentice to the criminal that’s at Winners… are they not worthy to be used as benchmarks?

The day you members will wake up from your slumber and know that God resides in the hearts of every man, forget that nonsense they’re using to cage you about being saved, you don’t need to go to the 4walls of any warehouses and business centres called church before God hears you…you foolish members should stop making these criminals in robes and capes and suits think they’re assistant Jesus. When you go to church in the uk you’ll understand that sincerely satan is a black man that resides in Africa possibly Nigeria

This question alone that you asked is a punishable offense

Daejumong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOfx1cvdzoQ?si=S9lCJdM2zDXvrKOC

Apostle Arome Osayi stopped preaching and left the pulpit because phones rang in the church ! Is this pride or spiritual discipline? Did Jesus stop preaching despite the noise of the crowd? Would Arome have done same if he was in secular job ? Was he disrespectful to the congregation that came to church to listen to him?

Arome is a guy I respect and as a fellow comrade in the vineyard of Christ, I believe this was excessive and unfair to the congregation who came out to listen to you. I encourage you to take time to self reflect and publicly apologise to your church members ! This is very important because many younger pastors and Christians look up to you and see u as a father!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyKJXVI2hAk?si=9b1d0dxugoGA0-zr

Anger prevented Moses from reaching the promise land. He was also disobedient because 99.5% obedience is still disobedience.
The man could have rebuked the people and go ahead with the service.

May we be counted worthy in the kingdom of God.

DIscipline

SeraphicWind:
It is not pride. What he did was the best thing to.

You are in the presence of God and your phone is ringing?

Will you allow that to happen in the presence of an ordinary governor?

What would we have done if a high ranking government official present in the church had the phone ringing while he was preaching.
All these bandits on the pulpit, their time will come one day.

floss:


Cut the bull shit you’re spitting out, who and who are the real pastors that laboured, point me to the direction of just one, the one that DRINKS TEA WITH GOD every day, isn’t he qualified to be used as a benchmark? …. Abi the one that resides in port harcourt that his members are praying to every Sunday that’ was an apprentice to the criminal that’s at Winners… are they not worthy to be used as benchmarks?

The day you members will wake up from your slumber and know that God resides in the hearts of every man, forget that nonsense they’re using to cage you about being saved, you don’t need to go to the 4walls of any warehouses and business centres called church before God hears you…you foolish members should stop making these criminals in robes and capes and suits think they’re assistant Jesus. When you go to church in the uk you’ll understand that sincerely satan is a black man that resides in Africa possibly Nigeria

Mtcheew! I won't waste my time having a banter with you. You're using a few recognized persons to judge an entire community, and you think you're making sense.

"Satan is a black man". I guess you're him, since you're black too.

SeraphicWind:
It is not pride. What he did was the best thing to.

You are in the presence of God and your phone is ringing?

Will you allow that to happen in the presence of an ordinary governor?

You're always in God's presence, not only when you are in a place of worship.

Bobbiet:

This is the very issue we as a people have.

Selective obedience . A preacher or let's even say a speaker came up to speak and a Phone rang. He then WARNED and said phones ringing while he preaches OBSTRUCTS the flow of his anointing and if it REPEATS itself, he will stop his sermon and leave. Then another phone rang. He Stops preaching and takes his sit and all of a sudden he has pride.

Meanwhile same people calling it pride and arrogance will approach check points and won't pick calls. Many will pass CBN buildings and hide their phones by just mere reading the sign Posts. Many have been sent out of exam halls for same character but all of a sudden the man of God has pride and arrogance.

Many of you as teachers in schools have even disciplined students for similar act and most lecturers have walked out of classes for similar act.

I respect that man for standing by his own words and not caring about anyone's opinion.

A minister is first a servant of the people. Did you notice that all the examples you gave where those of "masters", institutions? There you have it!

He falls for the temptation and should bear de responsibility or anger, ppl will try nd test ur patience and anger,but don't giv in

folake4u:
This is just unnecessary display of arrogance, it is not discipline.

Even in the court of law, when people's phone ring despite notice given, the offender will be guilty of contempt of court and be punished/given fine accordingly. The Judge won't stop the court process just because of one person.

The Nigerian version of Christianity is indeed flawed.

God bless you.

I said the man was wrong in church today and all others were against me. I was the only one who held this opinion about the guy's arrogance and pride.

E come be like say I no know wetin I dey do.

I stood my ground though.

Karleb:


God bless you.

I said the man was wrong in church today and all others were against me. I was the only one who held this opinion about the guy's arrogance and pride.

E come be like say I no know wetin I dey do.

I stood my ground though.

God bless you too for maintaining your stance.

He is very arrogant. Wasn't he the same MOG that had a "misunderstanding" with his spiritual son and it took the intervention of external parties before they settled?

Daejumong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOfx1cvdzoQ?si=S9lCJdM2zDXvrKOC

Apostle Arome Osayi stopped preaching and left the pulpit because phones rang in the church ! Is this pride or spiritual discipline? Did Jesus stop preaching despite the noise of the crowd? Would Arome have done same if he was in secular job ? Was he disrespectful to the congregation that came to church to listen to him?

Arome is a guy I respect and as a fellow comrade in the vineyard of Christ, I believe this was excessive and unfair to the congregation who came out to listen to you. I encourage you to take time to self reflect and publicly apologise to your church members ! This is very important because many younger pastors and Christians look up to you and see u as a father!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyKJXVI2hAk?si=9b1d0dxugoGA0-zr

Did you listen to what he said ? Or you rush to correct / advice as Una dey do

CaptainFM1:
You make a post and also indirectly making judgement at the same time.


If a phone rings in court it becomes contempt of court. In similar way, I guess it becomes "contempt of God" if it rings in church especially when the MOG pardoned the first ring.

In any case, it seems Christaindom is confused. That's what happens when they left the core message of Salvation and everyone turns prosperity preacher just because they have a sweet mouth as a motivational speaker.

God bless you richly

folake4u:


God bless you too for maintaining your stance.

He is very arrogant. Wasn't he the same MOG that had a "misunderstanding" with his spiritual son and it took the intervention of external parties before they settled?

I don't know. I really don't follow him.

But I'm adding him to the list of MOGs I don't like.

The list already has Abiyemoyo (that guy with opkolo eyes, not the one that just left Winners), Johnson Suleiman.

I should add Adeboye but I spent most of my adult life in RCCG. I am very emotionally attached to the church.

Karleb:


I don't know. I really don't follow him.

But I'm adding him to the list of MOGs I don't like.

The list already has Abiyemoyo (that guy with opkolo eyes, not the one that just left Winners), Johnson Suleiman.

I should add Adeboye but I spent most of my adult life in RCCG. I am very emotionally attached to the church.

Oh this is the gist. It was reported here on Nairaland.

https://www.nairaland.com/8123804/apostle-arome-osayi-reconciles-son

I was amused when people were happy that two pastors reconciled.

Hahahahaha I don't even consider those ones as Pastors. Or maybe I'm just a hater.

Adéboyé should stop granting press interviews or whatnot, the economy is not funny at all and the masses are really suffering. That his recent comment did not make sense.

advanceDNA:


U are kust justifying bad behavior...pastors came because of the pple..not the other way round....he's just feeling overly important and expecting too much respect

Okay sir

TimiRume:
Importance of having elders in a church

Modified: Haven seen his previous videos from years back on this matter of phone ringing, and also the recent one where he walked out, I don't think he is wrong. In short, I agree with him. He has been preaching about the need for discipline in the body of Christ and why we need to show reverence to God's word when we come for it. Eventhough I think the person whose phone rings should be asked to leave instead of the whole congregation paying for one person's carelessness, he said he finds it difficult to ascend in the spirit when there are phone distractions. So even if the person at fault leaves, he won't still be able to impart much on the congregation( though God can be merciful).

My conclusion is that disciplinary measures like this may appear cold and unloving but at the end they would prove effective.

All what you alluded to that he find it difficult to ascend spiritually huum, so if there is an external noise from outside the church he will vex and leave the pulpit? All these spiritual attributes arrogated to them in naija is not possible overseas, where the system work ,whether you pray or not ,work or not you will have something to eat, those who do not work, government give them money, I am sorry oh I think he should have just paused and caution the congregants to put off or silent . The level of noise pollution in Nigeria is high both from the pulpit and outside