Dtruthspeaker:


Yet I am awaken enough to correct you and remind you that the soul feels things even without the use of the flesh.

Solofresh2:
Where is the soul that is feeling things?
Physically point to me where your soul is and describe it's complexity

Dtruthspeaker:


You have already answered it that is why you kept dodging and dodging from answering the question I asked.

diamond68:
So a celestial soul is downloaded into a flesh , basically imprisoned in a flesh where it then starts to feel pain and then is subject to all kinds of pain and hardship and torture and afflictions. It feels the pains of lack and violence and disease and struggles etc. also has to contend with the insatiable desires of this demon called the flesh that walk it into all kinds of painful situations just to get its satisfaction and desires met. It’s like being trapped in hell. The body is the perfect hell. The flesh is a component of the biblical hell.

DaughterOfAllah:


Sounds like Gnostic doctrine. The Gnostics believe God is actually the devil and that he trapped humans in the flesh. The real God is the Father of Light.

diamond68:
God is the light, I agree but the light and darkness project the information in them and express themselves in humans and a human subject to the darkness is in hell but if you can align with the light then you break out of hell and so you don't necessarily have to be in hell when encased in a flesh. You have to jailbreak yourself out of hell and into the light . The flesh can be your ally and not your prison

DaughterOfAllah:


My brother, no vex but at this moment I'm not sure I have the patience to be taking spiritual somersaults into the abyss of absurdity. I'll sit this one out, thank you very much.

diamond68:
not everybody is built to receive this deep wisdom ☀️when you are ready come look for me Sister 👀

DaughterOfAllah:


Yeah, whatever.

DaughterOfAllah:


Yeah, whatever.

diamond68:
you know this Islam is moon worship right ? The lesser light. Would you rather not worship the greater light ?

diamond68:
you know this Islam is moon worship right ?

DaughterOfAllah:


...and this is a lie by the way. Don't pretend to claim knowledge on things you know deep down that you don't.

DaughterOfAllah:


Oga I'm not Muslim. Leave me alone.

diamond68:
genesis 1 vs 14 it's the lesser light that rules the night

DaughterOfAllah:


Proves nothing. Don't waste my time please.

Solofresh2:

1) Why are you just replying me now?

2) Well does your soul as a normal human being exists outside your body?

3 (Are your so called feelings not arising from your brain activity.

4) is it your soul that interact with people or your body?
You can also show me proof that your soul feels pain and happiness outside your body

diamond68:
So a celestial soul is downloaded into a flesh , basically imprisoned in a flesh where it then starts to feel pain and then is subject to all kinds of pain and hardship and torture and afflictions. It feels the pains of lack and violence and disease and struggles etc. also has to contend with the insatiable desires of this demon called the flesh that walk it into all kinds of painful situations just to get its satisfaction and desires met. It’s like being trapped in hell. The body is the perfect hell. The flesh is a component of the biblical hell.

Solofresh2:
Most times I want to believe that both our heaven and hell are here on earth and in the flesh.The spirit can't feel anything because it is not of the flesh.Its not in the physical form
So how can your spirit feel heavenly or be in hell when it can't feel?
If you want to get punished by the universe,it will be in the living form and if you deserve to feel heavenly it will still be in the living form

Truthseeker10:

Kindly show us from the Bible where soul was put into man when he was created.

Truthseeker10:

The word 'hell' in the bible simply means the Grave where humans go when they die. There is no consciousness after death.

Truthseeker10:

The word 'hell' in the bible simply means the Grave where humans go when they die. There is no consciousness after death.

diamond68:
genesis let us go down and recreate ourself

Dtruthspeaker:


The word hell both in the bible and in the world means "a place where the wicked are punished after death"

And that is why when evil people are dying or about to die they are very very afraid.

Even those who are not yet dying are also afraid of it as was shown in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/8307530/used-scared-hell-fire-when

Truthseeker10:

Below is Ecclesiastics 9:10.

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Catholic Public Domain Version
Whatever your hand is able to do, do it
earnestly. For neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge will exist in death,
toward which you are hurrying

Dtruthspeaker:


Oh so you are Catholic. Interesting.

Psalms 116:3
The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.

And Mark shows us that hellll leads to Fire called hellfire.

Mark 9:43/45
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

And Mathew 13:50 shows us that hell's fire is a "place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

Truthseeker10:

So does psalm 116:3 lcontradict Ecclesiastics 9:10?
What is the Hebrew and Greek word for hell?

Dtruthspeaker:


I did not say it contradicts but I certainly said that Mark and other passages show us that hell leads to hellfire.

Truthseeker10:

Ecclesiastics 9:10 says that there is no consciousness in hell. Do you agree?

What is the Hebrew and Greek word for hell?

Is hell different from hell fire?

Dtruthspeaker:


When we say a person is dead, it is automatically proven that he does not have consciousness to this world.

But Lazarus, Darius daughter and co prove that the dead are not conscious to us but they certainly hear The Voice of The Lord and they respond, clearly proving that they are conscious.

Since you limit hell to the grave only then it would stand to reason that hellfire is different.

Truthseeker10:

What is the conscious part of Lazarus and Darius daughter?

What is the Hebrew and Greek word for hell and hell fire?

Dtruthspeaker:


Don't know, don't care. It is not I who created them.