SIRcumalot:

I'll let Mchale slide because have never really seen him play but all the rest I'll pick before Dirk.
2011 dallas maverick is my favourite champion run ever.
That been said he has his stinkers the spectacular choke job against Miami in 06
And that funny season where he led dallas to the first seed,won the MVP and got bounced in the 1st round by the warriors.

SIRcumalot:

Okay then barkley

Naah no way Barkley as good as Dirk. We all have our opinions and preferences sha.

Dirk has had good to average supporting cast over the course of his career. Yes he failed in 06 but look at that Maverick roster compared to the Heat

Harris
Terry
Howard
Dirk
Desagana Diop/Erick Dampier

Vs

Payton
Wade
Walker
Alonzo
Shaq

Tim Duncan has also lost to an 8th seed before. Malone had the best or at least the most prolific PG of all-time and. KG had two Hall of Famers by his side.

Can you categorically list Jason Terry a future HOF even Tyson Chandler. These are the guys Dirk won with. With a better roster I'm sure Dirk would have won more rings

SIRcumalot:

I'll let Mchale slide because have never really seen him play but all the rest I'll pick before Dirk.
2011 dallas maverick is my favourite champion run ever.
That been said he has his stinkers the spectacular choke job against Miami in 06
And that funny season where he led dallas to the first seed,won the MVP and got bounced in the 1st round by the warriors.

so you would choose the mailman and barkley above him because of this criteria but act like the mailman was able to deliver a championship in utah or barkley delivered a championship in philly or phoenix. Barkley choked and so did the mailman, even duncan lost to an eight seed. dirk supporting cast was never great. only HOF was kidd

Mynd44:

Spurs beat him twice. 2007 which was the Eight sweep of the NBA finals and last year.

Thank you

Thanks for the correction, totally forgot

A40:



Naah no way Barkley as good as Dirk. We all have our opinions and preferences sha.

Dirk has had good to average supporting cast over the course of his career. Yes he failed in 06 but look at that Maverick roster compared to the Heat

Harris
Terry
Howard
Dirk
Desagana Diop/Erick Dampier

Vs

Payton
Wade
Walker
Alonzo
Shaq

Tim Duncan has also lost to an 8th seed before. Malone had the best or at least the most prolific PG of all-time and. KG had two Hall of Famers by his side.

Can you categorically list Jason Terry a future HOF even Tyson Chandler. These are the guys Dirk won with. With a better roster I'm sure Dirk would have won more rings

maybe tyson chandler and even he isnt a first ballot HOF. I would think everyone supporting cast was better than dirk. everyone had a first round HOF. Only dirk didnt

I am expecting warriors to sweep the cavs. The only reason the cavs made game 1 close imo was the warriors were nervous in the first q, shots didnt fall and the cavs jumped on them. So far I havent seen anyone take my bet that the cavs can win even one game this series. But Lebron is till the best in the game

SIRcumalot:
40+ points in a game 1 of a series that just started.its soon to start this LBJ is weak argument,you would think MJ or Kobe never missed a game winning shot.
If you say he is only a physical specimen what about his high basketball IQ and his phenomenal passing range ?
@A40,Roland his a celtics fan so the Answer is probably Larry bird or Pierce
it also explains why he doesn't like LBJ.
Kobe is the closest Clone of the GOAT we'll ever get and I don't think he is better than lebron except you bring up the ring argument which is unfair.

You need to watch the 00-02 Lakers to appreciate just how dominant Kobe was. You can argue he had Shaq but their relationship was symbiotic. Lebron would not play in 6 Finals if he were out West. The Kings would have made the Finals easily if they were in the East. Duncan would probably have like 7 rings by now.

And it goes on and on. He played in a conference when teams routinely made the playoffs with sub .500 records

@A40 and Donlittle
It always come back to the 2011 series for Mavs fans abi ?
Barkley and KG didn't exactly play with great role players either
Barkley played with Moses Malone in his rookie season and KJ in phoenix plus the added misfortune of running into MJ in the finals sames as the Mailman.
KG prime was wasted with the wolves and the only time he had decent players Cassell and sprewell he ran into Shaq and kobe in the WCF.
KG already started to decline in Boston he played a very significant role but Pierce was there best player.

SIRcumalot:
@A40 and Donlittle
It always come back to the 2011 series for Mavs fans abi ?
Barkley and KG didn't exactly play with great role players either
Barkley played with Moses Malone in his rookie season and KJ in phoenix plus the added misfortune of running into MJ in the finals sames as the Mailman.
KG prime was wasted with the wolves and the only time he had decent players Cassell and sprewell he ran into Shaq and kobe in the WCF.
KG already started to decline in Boston he played a very significant role but Pierce was there best player.

ok so why are you exactly placing these players above dirk?

A40:

You need to watch the 00-02 Lakers to appreciate just how dominant Kobe was. You can argue he had Shaq but their relationship was symbiotic. Lebron would not play in 6 Finals if he were out West. The Kings would have made the Finals easily if they were in the East. Duncan would probably have like 7 rings by now.

And it goes on and on. He played in a conference when teams routinely made the playoffs with sub .500 records

Anyone remember kobe's patented jumpshot where he would extend his legs outward to draw contact? Man, you couldnt touch Kobe on the way to the rim without drawing a foul. Go look up the WCF against the Blazers. Man, that was supreme home cooking. The years the Kings lost to the Lakers, they were the better team (both times), if not for the refs. If Lebron got 1/2 of the calls Kobe got, he'll be scoring 50 every night. Heck if wade or Durant or Melo got 1/2 those calls, they all would be scoring 50+ per night.

Conclusion: Kobe was good, Kobe was clutch, but dayum, the refs sure helped a lot. Sorry yall, its my duty to rain on any Kobe parade I see. The dude won 2 more rings than he should have. Carry on

birdman:


Anyone remember kobe's patented jumpshot where he would extend his legs outward to draw contact? Man, you couldnt touch Kobe on the way to the rim without drawing a foul. Go look up the WCF against the Blazers. Man, that was supreme home cooking. The years the Kings lost to the Lakers, they were the better team (both times), if not for the refs. If Lebron got 1/2 of the calls Kobe got, he'll be scoring 50 every night. Heck if wade or Durant or Melo got 1/2 those calls, they all would be scoring 50+ per night.

Conclusion: Kobe was good, Kobe was clutch, but dayum, the refs sure helped a lot. Sorry yall, its my duty to rain on any Kobe parade I see. The dude won 2 more rings than he should have. Carry on

Haha you have evidence or you are just hating on the Mamba?

You even bring up the refs in the Kings series but I can recall the 2000 series. Pretty much all the Laker wins were blowouts so how did the refs influence that?

Which particular game was there home-cooking vs the Blazers? We need hard evidence here not just opinion

That Lakers 00-02 team were one of the most dominant team in NBA history. You can argue their competition from the East was weak but they were the best in their era by a mile!

SIRcumalot:
@A40 and Donlittle
It always come back to the 2011 series for Mavs fans abi ?
Barkley and KG didn't exactly play with great role players either
Barkley played with Moses Malone in his rookie season and KJ in phoenix plus the added misfortune of running into MJ in the finals sames as the Mailman.
KG prime was wasted with the wolves and the only time he had decent players Cassell and sprewell he ran into Shaq and kobe in the WCF.
KG already started to decline in Boston he played a very significant role but Pierce was there best player.

Barkley doesn't even have a ring so let's push him to one side

KG's prime yielded 1 conference Final. Needed Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Tony Allen to win a ring at Boston

Dirk won a ring with Tyson Chandler. Jason Terry and a 38 y.o Kidd. He beat Lebron, D.Wade and Chris Bosh (Lebron and D.Wade are top 10 all-time in their respective positions)

This is not a small achievement

A40:

Barkley doesn't even have a ring so let's push him to one side

KG's prime yielded 1 conference Final. Needed Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Tony Allen to win a ring at Boston

Dirk won a ring with Tyson Chandler. Jason Terry and a 38 y.o Kidd. He beat Lebron, D.Wade and Chris Bosh (Lebron and D.Wade are top 10 all-time in their respective positions)

This is not a small achievement

Thank You!

A40:

Haha you have evidence or you are just hating on the Mamba?

You even bring up the refs in the Kings series but I can recall the 2000 series. Pretty much all the Laker wins were blowouts so how did the refs influence that?

Which particular game was there home-cooking vs the Blazers? We need hard evidence here not just opinion

That Lakers 00-02 team were one of the most dominant team in NBA history. You can argue their competition from the East was weak but they were the best in their era by a mile!

I went looking for the old youtube clips. I forgot sometime back the nba made google take down those clips, because it implicated several nba refs. donaghy was the only one who got caught, accidentally btw.

As a sidenote, it is interesting how easy it is to wipeout info you dont want even in the internet age. Cant find a single clip via google anymore lol

If the cavs lose tonight, they go down 2-0. There is no way they beat the warriors 3 straight in cleveland which means warriors play game 6 to close the series on their home court, no matter how hard cleveland plays in games 3,4,5. Given this, I expect Lebron to go into 'god' mode tonite, a-la game 6 vs Celtics some years ago. That game where he makes every almost every jump shot. I suspect it still wont be enough. The warriors actually play really good defense and I see the rest of the team struggling. warriors 2 - cavs 0

With Lebron's physique I wish he would keep attacking the rim, rather than settle for jumpers which is exactly what the Warriors want, I don't see any player on the Warriors roaster able to stop him if he makes wiser decision with his shot selection..

Roland17:
With Lebron's physique I wish he would keep attacking the rim, rather than settle for jumpers which is exactly what the Warriors want, I don't see any player on the Warriors roaster able to stop him if he makes wiser decision with his shot selection..

one word, Iggy lol

Damn! James is a machine.

Way too much contact on Lebron for the officials to just ignore, he made the right decision attacking the rim can't fault him for that.

Final for the ages . NBA finals

Let's Go CAVS!

Who else thought GS was done?

Damn! Set up.

.

BIRDMAN .. WE GOT THIS!!

That was one hell of a game.

what next for GSW?

This has to be the worst officiating I have seen in a very long while, some obvious home cooking calls..

Ewuro4:
BIRDMAN .. WE GOT THIS!!

i wuz wrong lol

those refrees really suck.

to be fair, LBJ has reason to be angry. man, the refs officiating this game sucked. as much as i wanted 2-0, cavs deserved this game. i want to say home cooking, but maybe its just me

btw, this is the one thing that makes me think LBJ is the best in the league right now. that last shot in regular time, he got fouled. If it was Kobe taking that shot, he goes to the line. Even JVG remarked how little benefit of the doubt lebron gets on these calls. Oh well, the bball gods decided on this one.

Donlittle:
ok so why are you exactly placing these players above dirk?

Because I think Malone and Barkley where victims of the era they played

Nepa no let me watch this game 2
How Cleveland take win