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Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 12:19am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40: Absolutely!....For a Lad that has enjoyed little post season success, the Pedestal is constantly being put on is almost somewhat cringeworthy. Phenomenal player but let's calm our ti..ts down please. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:22am On Nov 13, 2019 |
KarnBarlow:You would struggle to give me 3 instances where a player guards another mano a mano for the duration of a game. It simply does not happen in today's basketball Who are these many players you speak of that singlehandedly guard without needing zone or help defense in today's switch everything league? |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:28am On Nov 13, 2019 |
chic2pimp:I won't blame their failures entirely on him but what was his ceiling at New Orleans? Who will suggest Giannis didn't meet it last year? Of course AD and Giannis are different with different types of skillset but just because AD's style is more aesthetically pleasing does not make Giannis any less effective This notion that anybody can never be as good as AD is what I don't want to hear. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:41am On Nov 13, 2019 |
KarnBarlow:I don't know why you lot took that statement personal and to heart, he even backtracked eventually. I took it up because the NBA is littered with players that didn't get to the league with as much fanfare as AD but were able to make it work and become a force in the league (Giannis, Harden) when they were on the come up I'm sure suggesting they could reach the levels of the marquee players in the league would have been laughable at the time. I put it to you that AD underperformed at New Orleans. They only ever topped 40 wins twice in his stay there. He wasn't even rookie of the year and only managed a paltry 13ppg which was poor for a #1 pick When they beat the Blazers, Jrue Holiday averaged 28pts per game and played stellar D on Lillard, not forgetting Mirotic averaging 18pts Don't come and paint the picture of AD doing it all on his own, nothing could be further from the truth. They were overmatched by the Warriors obviously but Holiday put decent numbers too 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:53am On Nov 13, 2019 |
Kobe dropping his nuts on Dwight's grill, no wonder they never got along. But man Kobe had mad hops!! This man was in orbit posterizing a man 5 inches taller than he was.
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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:36am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40:He did say it nonetheless. I took it up because the NBA is littered with players that didn't get to the league with as much fanfare as AD but were able to make it work and become a force in the league (Giannis, Harden) when they were on the come up I'm sure suggesting they could reach the levels of the marquee players in the league would have been laughable at the time.Of course it happens every once in a while. Still a far fetched argument nonetheless. We can make the same case for literally every player that has shown signs of improvement. I put it to you that AD underperformed at New Orleans. They only ever topped 40 wins twice in his stay there. He wasn't even rookie of the year and only managed a paltry 13ppg which was poor for a #1 pickDid AD underperform or did the Pelicans? Lets not forget hes had his injury issues early on, including his rookie year. When they beat the Blazers, Jrue Holiday averaged 28pts per game and played stellar D on Lillard, not forgetting Mirotic averaging 18pts Don't come and paint the picture of AD doing it all on his own, nothing could be further from the truth. They were overmatched by the Warriors obviously but Holiday put decent numbers tooI literally mentioned Jrue and Rajon. But theres no denying who the best player on that team was, then you look at their performances against the warriors. Point is when he had a good team, he came good. I dont understand why people insist on blaming a player for a teams bad performance even when he plays very well. The best team will always beat the best player. No one has ever done it alone. Ever! |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:37am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40: Literally no one here has said this. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:39am On Nov 13, 2019 |
chic2pimp: So a player is phenomenal but if the team doesn't have success because it just isnt good enough its on him? How many seasons have we seen players play out of their minds and miss the playoffs because of their teams short comings? Its a team game, i dont understand why this is so hard for people to understand. AD is a phenomenal player. leave it at that. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:47am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40: You should bring up the numbers for his post up play as well, and thats the major thing he worked on with Hakeem. What served him best the next playoff run. Numbers lie all the time. The improvement in his jump shooting and post up play was blatant. In fact that was the first thing most people noticed. I'm not concluding if a player is known to be something and hasnt done anything to change that notion how is your conclusion premature? Until he does, theres nothing to suggest improvement. One is a bad matchup the other is a choke job? Naah, truth is a player without shooting will always get exposed in the playoffs especially in recent times. We've seen this far too often, when was the last time a player without respectable shooting led a team to a championship? The last time in recent memory was probably shaq and shaq was a freak of nature. Plus the game has changed significantly since then. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:58am On Nov 13, 2019 |
We've seen literally every great player struggle with bad teams at some point in their careers. MJ early on, Kobe without Shaq, Lebrons first stint in cleveland. Its just not fair to hold a bad team against a single player. |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 3:44am On Nov 13, 2019 |
Trae Young |
Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 4:27am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40: But they said the same AD will do better than Giannis if AD was the one playing for the Bucks. Same AD will do better than Kawhi too playing for the Raptors. AD will also do the same for GSW or better in place of "guess who?" KD!!. Na this KD own weak me |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:25am On Nov 13, 2019 |
We're back yo our regular schedule program. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:29am On Nov 13, 2019 |
Steph was not this good in Year 2. Trae Young is a bad man, I was a doubter but the eye test don't lie. This kid is unconscious |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:33am On Nov 13, 2019 |
KNIGHTBlaed:Same AD led his team to 40+ wins twice in 7 seasons. How would he have gotten to that place for starters? |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:34am On Nov 13, 2019 |
KarnBarlow:It's been implied |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:51am On Nov 13, 2019 |
KarnBarlow:Yes. Because that's the beauty of sports. Nothing is static. 3 years ago nobody was talking about Mo Salah and Sadio Mane amongst the best players on the planet KarnBarlow:He had solid if not unspectacular players. Ryan Anderson, Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon, Tyreke Evans. He was not surrounded by bums and they played as well as role players are supposed to KarnBarlow:That's par for the course. You would hope AD is the best player in a team with Jrue Holiday and Rondo You claimed he carried NOLA to their playoff win. That is not entirely true. He was the best player but when you average 33 and your teammate averaged 28, carrying is not the right word to use. AD didn't win enough games with that roster 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:58am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40:Doesn't make your claims any less outrageous. Okay, just one year where AD was healthy and you felt he had enough for the playoffs in the west but didn't make it. One year. That's par for the course. You would hope AD is the best player in a team with Jrue Holiday and Rondo. He got Boogie Cousins and then lost him to injury but put the pelicans on his back along with Jrue and Rondo and led them to a first round sweep of the trailblazers, and then fell to golden state even managing to steal a game from them in their prime averaging 30. This is what i typed. Dont know where you got all that from. He won 48 in the west in 75 games after losing his deuteragonist averaging 28 and if I'm not mistaken was 3rd in MVP voting and DPOY voting. Don't know what more you want from him. |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:14am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40:Looooooollllllll |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:15am On Nov 13, 2019 |
Really Portland, the kings now? |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:18am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40:Who even told you that was LeBron's physical prime? Smh |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:18am On Nov 13, 2019 |
stylessamson: Wow. Using a 6 year sample against a 2 year sample. Groundbreaking. |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:23am On Nov 13, 2019 |
chic2pimp:You were quick to mention Blessoe but failed to mention Brogdon, Middleton and co. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:33am On Nov 13, 2019 |
LeBrons FT shooting is disgusting. |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:33am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40:Me what I don't want to hear is that Giannis is better than AD. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:37am On Nov 13, 2019 |
steady986: It's a reasonable argument especially compared to how someone said siakam is better than AD. Giannis is the MVP afterall. Hes certainly better in the regular season but his game is too shallow especially in the post season. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:38am On Nov 13, 2019 |
Looking at the Lakers fixtures it's safe to say that they're going on another streak. I'd rest both bron and AD against the warriors though. |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:41am On Nov 13, 2019 |
A40:You're funny o. AD underperformed at NO but still managed to make all NBA first team 3 times. You've forgotten that basketball is a team sport. How many players in the NBA have made all NBA first team while leading their team to under 40 wins? Very few. |
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:55am On Nov 13, 2019 |
KarnBarlow:Those sneaky bastards. The need to get dismantled for good. I'd play may best players. |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 7:59am On Nov 13, 2019 |
SmooshCHN: A40: https://www.instagram.com/tv/B4y6PpphJNk/?igshid=pue19ghzd975 For those who doubt. This kid is special and this is just his second year. Saying Trae can be better than Curry or Giannis/Siakam than Anthony Davis doesn't imply that they are currently better. I didn't read where anyone said Siakam is currently a better player than AD. It's normal to believe they can be better if they keep getting better with how well they are playing now and such takes shouldn't be an off topic either. It's sports. We've seen 1st round picks turn busts and second round picks become household names. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:08am On Nov 13, 2019 |
steady986: Lol. The south Bay Lakers will blow these bums out. They're not worth the trouble anymore. No point destroying them while they're down, We'll get them when they're at full strength next year. That's the best way to steal their souls. 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:13am On Nov 13, 2019 |
SmooshCHN: Really? You didn't? Read the thread again. Besides, it's one thing to say a 21 year old sophomore leading a team and has shown all flashes of the skills of the player he's being compared to can reach that ceiling. It's a completely different thing to speculate a 25 year old will miraculously catch up with a transcendental player than AD out of nowhere. Based on what? That has never happened before. NEVER. |
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