Eruditor:
But without AD in both games they don't win either. Also, without Bradley and the concomitant no-show from Lou Will, they don't win the LAC game. But see who the narrative is about.

This can also apply to any NBA legend. Without pippen is Jordan getting all those rings?

People always creates new rules to exclude lbj from greatness. Haba

Eruditor:


The sheet says he has the highest 3 pt % and not that he is the best 3 pt shooter.

Lol, doesn't that mean the same thing?

Eruditor:


AD is suffering the same thing that anyone who ever played with Bron suffers from his fanboys. They give him all the credit. Admittedly, he was very good in both games. But without AD in both games they don't win either. Also, without Bradley and the concomitant no-show from Lou Will, they don't win the LAC game. But see who the narrative is about.

What you just said is the equivalent of saying that salt is salty and pepper is peppery.

Afromentalist:

This can also apply to any NBA legend. Without pippen is Jordan getting all those rings?

People always creates new rules to exclude lbj from greatness. Haba

2 games are a microcosm of a ring (which takes at least 16) games. So no, it does not apply the same way.

The best player for e.g against LAC was Bradley. Not AD and not Bron. But the narrative has been about Bron.

Just like the best player against GSW in the game 7 was Kyrie but they made it about Bron.

steady986:

Lol, doesn't that mean the same thing?

No it does not.

The player who took one freekick and scored it. Has 100% conversion of freekicks.

The player who took 20 and scored 15 has only 75%.

That is why the best 3pt shooters at judged by % and volume not either.

Smh

steady986:

What you just said is the equivalent of saying that salt is salty and pepper is peppery.

Like Bradley was not the best player on both ends of the floor? Or where was Bron when LAL took the lead in the 3rd quarter?

Don't tell me that's what you believe ooo. I know the angle you are playing. . Well played. But statistical analysis says sample size does not help your argument. The guy is shooting a whooping 60%, and Lebron won't encourage him to shoot more?

steady986:

Lol, doesn't that mean the same thing?

steady986:
Smh

Nobody is saying AD is the MVP. They are only saying LAL success is down to those 2 players. So LBJ has to make his case against AD before thinking about Giannis.

Just like when people rushed to pit LBJ with Jordan, Charles Barkley was one of those who said, when did LBJ pass Kobe to even be on the table with Jordan?

Eruditor:


No it does not.

The player who took one freekick and scored it. Has 100% conversion of freekicks.

The player who took 20 and scored 15 has only 75%.

That is why the best 3pt shooters at judged by % and volume not either.

No. The best 3pt shooter is judged by percentage, not volume. If Harden attempts 12 3pts a game and makes 4, is he as good as Klay who attempts 10 and makes 4?

Or if Harden attempts 15 and makes 5, is he better than Klay who attempts 10 and makes 4?

Eruditor:


Like Bradley was not the best player on both ends of the floor? Or where was Bron when LAL took the lead in the 3rd quarter?

Why not ask me where Bron was in the 4th quarter?

benji93:
Don't tell me that's what you believe ooo. I know the angle you are playing. . Well played. But statistical analysis says sample size does not help your argument. The guy is shooting a whooping 60%, and Lebron won't encourage him to shoot more?

So why the hell is Dwight's name there and not KCP? That's just what makes it funny.

Eruditor:


Nobody is saying AD is the MVP. They are only saying LAL success is down to those 2 players. So LBJ has to make his case against AD before thinking about Giannis.

Just like when people rushed to pit LBJ with Jordan, Charles Barkley was one of those who said, when did LBJ pass Kobe to even be on the table with Jordan?

Oh, so you mean the success of the Bucks is solely on Giannis? Middleton played no part? Listen to yourself.

But honestly can you tell me how many 3 pointers Howard attempted and how many he made. The sample size is so small that the NBA doesn't even remember. . Perhaps they just did that hoping no one would notice. And your submission on Judging the best 3-point shooters based on FG% is bogus. Where did you get it from? The status quo hs always been volume and FG%. I hope we don't revisit this issue again. Just forget this Howard thing. Your argument is quite laughable.

steady986:

So why the hell is Dwight's name there and not KCP?

The argument is about the weight. Who has contributed the most to LAL's success statistically? And please don't bring up "You have to watch LAL games to see who contributes more"

steady986:

Oh, so you mean the success of the Bucks is solely on Giannis? Middleton played no part? Listen to yourself.

benji93:
But honestly can you tell me how many 3 pointers Howard attempted and how many he made. The sample size is so small that the NBA doesn't even remember. . Perhaps they just did that hoping no one would notice. And your submission on Judging the best 3-point shooters based on FG% is bogus. Where did you get it from? The status quo hs always been volume and FG%. I hope we don't revisit this issue again. Just forget this Howard thing. Your argument is quite laughable.

Volume is relative. Someone who shoots 6 a games is regarded as a volume shooter, as well as someone who shoots 12 a game. There's no set number to determine who a volume shooter is

benji93:
The argument is about the weight. Who has contributed the most to LAL's success statistically? And please don't bring up "You have to watch LAL games to see who contributes more"

What do you mean statistically? LeBron contributes over 50 points per game by way of points and assists. His rebound numbers are not dwarfed either by AD. The counts is 7.8 to 9.4. Steals is 1.2 to 1.5. Points is just a difference of one. I told you that box scores could be deceitful.

steady986:

No. The best 3pt shooter is judged by percentage, not volume. If Harden attempts 12 3pts a game and makes 4, is he as good as Klay who attempts 10 and makes 4?

Or if Harden attempts 15 and makes 5, is he better than Klay who attempts 10 and makes 4?

No 2 players will have the same volume so analytics sets a benchmark to judge players. As a result, Klay will be adjudged better for all players who have taken 8 shots and beyond.

The best 3pt shooter is judged based on % from volume taken.

Or else a player just needs to score 50 pts in one game and refuse to play again so his ppg will be 50.

steady986:

Why not ask me where Bron was in the 4th quarter?

He was there making sure the lead that Bradley and AD had given the team when he was not playing, stayed the same.

steady986:

Oh, so you mean the success of the Bucks is solely on Giannis? Middleton played no part? Listen to yourself.

Nobody said it is solely on him. Just that he is the best and most valuable player on the winningest team.

LBJ is the best player on his team, but he is not the most valuable. I hope you catch it.

benji93:
But honestly can you tell me how many 3 pointers Howard attempted and how many he made. The sample size is so small that the NBA doesn't even remember. . Perhaps they just did that hoping no one would notice. And your submission on Judging the best 3-point shooters based on FG% is bogus. Where did you get it from? The status quo hs always been volume and FG%. I hope we don't revisit this issue again. Just forget this Howard thing. Your argument is quite laughable.

I would have thought he was joking but I know him. The guy is unsteady in his ways. Lol

steady986:

What you just said is the equivalent of saying that salt is salty and pepper is peppery.

I'm Yoruba and not all pepper is 'peppery'

SmooshCHN:
I'm Yoruba and not all pepper is 'peppery'

lol. this is true. I have encountered some ancestral peppers.

Afromentalist:
Since LeBron left the East, it is no longer weak. It is now normal that the Mvp comes From The East

I guess if LeBron returns to the East, it will be weak again and the Mvp must come from the tougher western conference

#Smh

#Hypocrisy

#thehateisreal

But he won 4 MVPs playing in the East. Una hypocrisy no be for here. When he won it with the Heat nobody complained

Giannis was leading an unfancied team to the best record in the league back to back just like LeBron did back in 2009, 2010 he won the MVPs and nobody complained about conference strength.

The same people that claimed Steph and KD should cancel themselves out in any MVP competition are singing different tune with Bron and Anthony Davis

Wind vane FC

Guess who player A is and who player B is.

If not for irresponsible journalists and LeNomad fanboys who are hellbent on robbing Giannis of his rightful place we will not even be having an argument

A40:


The same people that claimed Steph and KD should cancel themselves out in any MVP competition are singing different tune with Bron and Anthony Davis

I aint one of those.

Eruditor:


No 2 players will have the same volume so analytics sets a benchmark to judge players. As a result, Klay will be adjudged better for all players who have taken 8 shots and beyond.

The best 3pt shooter is judged based on % from volume taken.

Or else a player just needs to score 50 pts in one game and refuse to play again so his ppg will be 50.

You're just beating around the bush. What do you mean by "better for all who have taken 8 shots"? So how do we judge who is the best shooter overall?

Eruditor:


He was there making sure the lead that Bradley and AD had given the team when he was not playing, stayed the same.

Good

Eruditor:


Nobody said it is solely on him. Just that he is the best and most valuable player on the winningest team.

LBJ is the best player on his team, but he is not the most valuable. I hope you catch it.

Whatever makes you sleep at night man

SmooshCHN:
I'm Yoruba and not all pepper is 'peppery'

But pepper is not salty, is it?

You didn't mention blocks. 2.5 to 0.5. And stop talking as if he could score 50 points per game. He cannot, even if he wanted to. He leads him in multiple categories and that's it. Lebron didn't make the playoffs last season, although he had similar stats.

steady986:

What do you mean statistically? LeBron contributes over 50 points per game by way of points and assists. His rebound numbers are not dwarfed either by AD. The counts is 7.8 to 9.4. Steals is 1.2 to 1.5. Points is just a difference of one. I told you that box scores could be deceitful.

steady986:

You're just beating around the bush. What do you mean by "better for all who have taken 8 shots"? So how do we judge who is the best shooter overall?

From the example you gave the NBA will set a benchmark and that is what that " 8" was.

For example when they want to analyse FT % they say things like for players who have taken atleast 100 FT during the season.

Or else anyone can take one FT, make it and say his FT is 100%. Think.