ocnovakmichael:


1 Corinthians 14:38
[38]But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

Don't be ignorant as touching this matter. I believe you could read. Let me put it here in plain sight again:

Jeremiah 46:11
[11]Go up into Gilead, and take balm, O virgin, the daughter of Egypt: in vain shalt thou use many medicines; for thou shalt not be cured.

James 5:14
[14]Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Oga you gave no point....just rest. So we should go to gilead to be cured? You are very funny.

Truthseeker10:

Oga you gave no point....just rest. So we should go to gilead to be cured? You are very funny.

Brother, the Bible says, Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

ocnovakmichael:


Just for corrections, when I wrote Canaan Land and local assemblies, I don't mean other churches, I meant Living Faith Church local assemblies. These are the offshoot of the greater house, Canaan Land.

Which even makes it worse. Now, most "christians" are not Christians, but churchgoers and religious folks. If you guys knew what Christ meant by "...those that worship the Father must worship Him in spirit and in truth", you wouldn't be bothered which branch of your church you attend, or whether you even attend at all. And also you won't participate in all these "papa" calling stuff.

ocnovakmichael:


That is a good question brother.

You see, the church will not become united in doctrines. All Catholics will not become Pentecostal; all Celestial will not become Catholics; all Baptist will not become Pentecostal; neither will all Pentecostal agree in doctrine. However, amongst doctrinal tangents, the church, the body of Christ, will ultimately become one in the faith.

Paul writing by the Spirit, did not say till we all come in the unity of doctrine, nor did he say, till we come in the unity of denomination, no. Rather, the Spirit signify through Paul's letter: "Till we all come in the unity of the faith..." (Eph. 4:13). You see, the churches strength is in the faith in Christ Jesus.
Also, the lord Jesus corroborated that when he says, "But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22:32).

The just will come in the unity of the faith because the just shall leave by faith. And without faith it is impossible to please God.

You see, good works is good, but that does not please God. Also, good Christian doctrines, theology, Christian denomination are good, but those cannot please God. It is faith that please God. It is the faith that the church will come into unity of, so to speak.

I'm a Christian that is not affiliated with any "church", as I don't take most of them seriously. But considering the catholic church as Christian means you're either ignorant, or you're just taking the piss here.

JOHN 4 V 24 ANSWERS IT ALL.

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

Who asked you to go to church and dance on Sunday ?

They're all fraudsters in God's name

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

Ask you GO na wetin be our problem with that?


Did we tells we are Al Winner members here? So how can we advise you then?..

I'm nor being rude but telling you the truth, you chose Winners then obey Winers rules or quit winners.

Of course you must attend by fire by force!

ocnovakmichael:


There's nothing wrong in bringing up your own congregation in the faith of Christ. We should encourage that: because it is pleasing to God.

There is nothing like "your congregation" if we are sincere.

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

The greatest blessing you can have as a mature Christian is not just to attend the community churches, but to serve in those churches in a capacity that creates impact.

I was once the head of the Carer's squad in a Winners branch in another African country. That was where I learnt how to be a sacrificial giver. There were only four of us in that squad. We used to bring out money from our pockets to solve the needs of challenged church members. Routinely, while taking the community church in the bible reading, I would scan the attendees and make notes of those who looked troubled, dressed shabbily or who routinely looked ill. I would then task one of my usher friends to pay individual visits to some of these people. You cannot imagine the challenges people are going through which can be solved with small money.

The three years I was there were easily the best years of my Christian life. On a personal level, every single one of the four of us in the Carer's squad were blessed bountifully beyond measure.

Being a Winner is not only about going to Canaanland to hear Papa. You should at some point, be able to take what you have heard from Papa over the years and take it to a Community Church (especially the Rural churches established in the last three years) and bring the light to the communities where those churches are hosted. Then you will make those churches cities of refuge.

Jesus said: be not just a hearer of the Word, but a doer.

Winners... Lol

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

This is wrong
Not different from people who only worship on the mountain

20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks

This one is senseless, when will the chief thief vomit all the tithe he has been swallowing?

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

I am winner too but see what you will do to certify your conscience. Every first of every week, if you have access to attend at Ota go that first week of the month then subsequent weeks should be for your community.

Church is just a place of gathering of God's people.God is ubiquitous. He's even in your room.

Praise God

My article hit the headlines on Nairaland for the first time


Jesus is Lord!

As an MFM Member, living in Ikotun Egebe and the church having numerous branches and the ones springing up on a daily basis, What reason do I have to be going to our Headquarters at Onike Yaba on a weekly basis most especially on Sundays? No where wey God no dey nah? It's not a must I worship at the HQ nah? We even connect with the GO online every Wednesdays Mana water. I and my family attend the Power must change hands every first Saturday of the month at Prayer City in Ibafo. So it's not by force u go and worship at the Headquarters if you can easily connect online.

ocnovakmichael:


There is division amongst Christians because we have not matured in love.
If all Christians can meditate in 1 Corinthians chapter 13 we would learn to walk in unity.

Lol...
Matured in love you say?
There isn't any love in the church. Take away the tithes and offerings and you'll see the real character of your pastors and church leaders.
Even the devil will show you "love" when he wants to collect something from you.

I can worship at home, best place for me, or in a quiet place.

When no one is around.

ocnovakmichael:


Brother, the Bible says, Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

You're just defending indefensible!

Okay

ocnovakmichael:


Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Just pay your tithes and you'll be good. Also don't forget all these huge eddifices (built by man for man) need filling up every Sunday, not just Winners, so your local Winners might as well pack up.

On a serious note, the Bible doesn't recognise all these various denominations so you can go into any church to fellowship, after all they are reading from the same Bible, no bi so? I guess apart from Catholics and Jehovahs witnesses.

I knew people that travelled from the Island to Winners HQ unfailingly every Sunday. Same people would complain about how things are becoming harder. Thank God the couple don japa. Now they walk less than 15 minutes to their local church in the UK. Honestly, na we dey do we sef.

Urgent1Million:

Lol...
Matured in love you say?
There isn't any love in the church. Take away the tithes and offerings and you'll see the real character of your pastors and church leaders.
Even the devil will show you "love" when he wants to collect something from you.

Brother, do you know you can come to church for the rest of your days upon the earth and no man will coeherse you to give tithes and offerings.

You see, the Bible says, "if there first be a willing mind." And in another place scripture says, "if ye be willing and obedient."

As a Christian, the love of God should make you to give willingly even without being preached to. Life is all about giving. Plants give oxygen to man; and man gives Carbon dioxide to plants. The rain falls off the sky upon the earth, and the earth yied her fruits. The fruits and plants through transpiration and evaporation gives back water to the sky. The cycle is all about giving.

So if tithes and offerings will hinder you from going to church, let me encourage you that nobody will force you to give when you make up you mind to attend. And as a matter of fact, for every one Christian who refuses to give a minimum N50 offering for the growth of the church, God will raise 1000 more persons that will give in millions of Naira.

ocnovakmichael:


Brother, do you know you can come to church for the rest of your days upon the earth and no man will coeherse you to give tithes and offerings.

You see, the Bible says, "if there first be a willing mind." And in another place scripture says, "if ye be willing and obedient."

As a Christian, the love of God should make you to give willingly even without being preached to. Life is all about giving. Plants give oxygen to man; and man gives Carbon dioxide to plants. The rain falls off the sky upon the earth, and the earth yied her fruits. The fruits and plants through transpiration and evaporation gives back water to the sky. The cycle is all about giving.

So if tithes and offerings will hinder you from going to church, let me encourage you that nobody will force you to give when you make up you mind to attend. And as a matter of fact, for every one Christian who refuses to give a minimum N50 offering for the growth of the church, God will raise 1000 more persons that will give in millions of Naira.

Come to church without contributing offering or paying tithes when someone will tell me that I am robbing god?
No thank you.
As for giving freely, I currently give out more than what the pastors will even demand. I'd rather use my Sundays productively than sit down and listen to some motivational speaker tell me to pray to god when I need something but ask people to contribute money for him when he needs something.
Isn't that concerning?

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

If all Living faith Church members were expected to worship here in Cannanland (yeah, I literally LIVE in Cannanland) there wouldn't be any need to plant churches in other locations.

Anyone who feels he or she must worship here even though they live in Iba or Badagry or Abeokuta, it's their problem. Let them do it.

All I know is, there are Winners members in PH, Abuja, Kaduna, etc. can they come to Cannanland?

ocnovakmichael:


Just for corrections, when I wrote Canaan Land and local assemblies, I don't mean other churches, I meant Living Faith Church local assemblies. These are the offshoot of the greater house, Canaan Land.

Church is church. The earlier you have the wisdom to realize this the better you become as a Christian

Urgent1Million:

Come to church without contributing offering or paying tithes when someone will tell me that I am robbing god?
No thank you.
As for giving freely, I currently give out more than what the pastors will even demand. I'd rather use my Sundays productively than sit down and listen to some motivational speaker tell me to pray to god when I need something but ask people to contribute money for him when he needs something.
Isn't that concerning?

Brother don't kill the messenger. The Bishop is not telling you and have never said in his life in the ministry that anyone is robbing God for not giving. Brother it is God Himself who said you are robbing Him. The Bishop is only preaching the word of God as it is written

Malachi 3:7-8
[7]Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
[8]Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.


The late Dr. Chinua Achebe wrote a classical novel titled: "Things fall apart: the centre cannot hold." This book is speaking to the political upheaval of Nations. Now if I go to the National Assembly of any nation in the world and quote those lines of phrase by Chinua Achebe, does that make me the Author of that phrase? No. The Author remains Chinua Achebe.

Therefore, it is God saying you have robbed me in tithes and offerings, not the Bishop.

You guys are just deceiving yourselves, the church is in your heart and not just a physical building.

Good morning,
In my own opinion, he can attend any winners church close to his house and I am sure the video from Papa's ministration will be played there.
But if he lives very near Canaan land or has the resources (tfare) he can go and attend at the Canaan land Ota.

ocnovakmichael:
Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


Don't hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord

Bahamas95:
You guys are just deceiving yourselves, the church is in your heart and not just a physical building.

Brother those who go to church are not deceiving themselves. The Bible says, faith without corresponding action is dead.
You see, if the church is in your heart, you will show it in the open amongst your brethren, in the congratulation of the children of God. The Bible says:

1 Timothy 5:8
[8]But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.


You see, that text is talking about providing for your family. Yet in this context, the church is the family of every one born again child of God. So if you are not contributing to the growth of the church either through fellowship or in giving, the Bible says, you have denied the faith, and you're worse than an unbeliever.

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