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Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 7:24am On Feb 14
This question may seem strange to many Christians as it is assumed that that that we worship the same God but with different understanding?

I used to believe this same thing until Maximus of the JW told me that their God is not Omnipresent like the God of the Trinitarian Christians.

I probably wouldn't ask this question if not because
IYANGBALI asked the question
Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Enlightened.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

The response of where God Resides before He created ANYTHING can be summed up with this response in quote by the Trinitarian Christians

TenQ:

The answer is extremely simple and built into the Trinity. What did Jesus teach?

God is SPIRIT (the infinite Spirit) who is EVERYWHERE.
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."


As the Holy Spirit, God is INVISIBLE either on the earth (Physical Realm) or the heavens (Spiritual realm). The Holy Spirit is like AIR (RUACH) whose Presence through His actions can only be felt. In other words, the Holy Spirit is the Omnipresent existence of God.

Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."
Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"


The Word (The Son , Jesus) on Earth is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God, the Messanger of God's presence.

Colossians 1:15:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation"


The Father is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God in the Heavens who sits on the throne in heaven to preside over it.


This is why in Genesis 19:24, Yahweh on earth could rain down fire from Yahweh in heaven.

Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."


This is why in the Throne room of the FATHER in Heaven, you cannot SEE the Holy Spirit. You can only see the Father and the Word (the Lamb, the Son) because ALL EXISTENCE are inside Him


So the question of WHERE was God is misinformed because ALL existence physical and spiritual is INSIDE God.


The whole Universe physical and spiritual are all a tiny subset WITHIN God as the Holy Spirit.



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So, the Question for JW is this
Since Jehovah of the Jehovah's Witness is not Omnipresent, the logical thing is that he is LOCATED somewhere even before and after he created everything
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything



Please let the JWs educate us!

Thanks

Cc: MaxInDHouse and the rest of the JW crew
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 7:50am On Feb 14
TenQ:
This question may seem strange to many Christians as it is assumed that that that we worship the same God but with different understanding?

I used to believe this same thing until Maximus of the JW told me that their God is not Omnipresent like the God of the Trinitarian Christians.

I probably wouldn't ask this question if not because
IYANGBALI asked the question
Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Enlightened.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

The response of where God Resides before He created ANYTHING can be summed up with this response in quote by the Trinitarian Christians







So, the Question for JW is this
Since Jehovah of the Jehovah's Witness is not Omnipresent, the logical thing is that he is LOCATED somewhere even before and after he created everything
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything



Please let the JWs educate us!

Thanks

Cc: MaxInDHouse and the rest of the JW crew


Useless question




Very useless question

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 7:55am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:



Useless question




Very useless question
You don't have any logical , biblical not respectable answer!?

Better go to kingdom hall and ask your Elders!

Is your God Omnipresent?
No!

So, answer the question!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 7:59am On Feb 14
TenQ:

You don't have a respectable answer?

Better go to kingdom hall and ask your Elders!

Is your God Omnipresent?
No!

So, answer the question!


You are asking a very useless question

One that no mere human "elders" can answer
Not even the ones in heaven


You now want to get that answer on earth

Very funny 😂

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Righthussle: 8:00am On Feb 14
Oga be calming down.

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 8:00am On Feb 14
TenQ:

You don't have any logical , biblical not respectable answer!?

Better go to kingdom hall and ask your Elders!

Is your God Omnipresent?
No!

So, answer the question!


You think your creator is like the mere dead idols people are worshipping on earth, idols that have origin and location

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 8:02am On Feb 14
TenQ:

You don't have any logical , biblical not respectable answer!?

Better go to kingdom hall and ask your Elders!

Is your God Omnipresent?
No!

So, answer the question!

You think , God is a being you can understand with human reasoning

Human reasoning of where, who, what ?

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 8:03am On Feb 14
Righthussle:
Oga be calming down.
I asked a simple question now!

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything




Every wrong doctrine break down under interrogation!

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 8:03am On Feb 14
TenQ:

You don't have any logical , biblical not respectable answer!?

Better go to kingdom hall and ask your Elders!

Is your God Omnipresent?
No!

So, answer the question!


You think you can know God and be like "Finally, I now know where he is from and where he is currently" even after spending all your lifetime chasing the air?

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:

Useless question
Very useless question

They keep begging JWs for worthless arguments! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 8:04am On Feb 14
TenQ:

I asked a simple question now!

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything




Every wrong doctrine break down under interrogation!

That Jehovah witness belief is totally wrong of course

Sane and also insane people can glaringly see that
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 8:06am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:


You think , God is a being you can understand with human reasoning

Human reasoning of where, who, what ?
In the Beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

But God had self-existed before creating ANYTHING.

Trinitarians say that ALL existence physical and spiritual are INSIDE God as He is Omnipresent.

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything

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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 8:11am On Feb 14
MaxInDHouse:


They keep begging JWs for worthless arguments! cheesy
See your life!

There is no way to answer this question according to your JW doctrines without looking like a mumu.


If Jehovah is NOT Omnipresent, then he must be somewhere in space and time.

Mr Maximus,
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:14am On Feb 14
TenQ:

See your life!

There is no way to answer this question according to your JW doctrines without looking like a mumu.


If Jehovah is NOT Omnipresent, then he must be somewhere in space and time.

Mr Maximus,
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything


What is the name of your church?

I have been asking you this question for many years but instead of answering you keep raising questions.

Oya answer mẹ today or keep your own question too! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 8:18am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:


That Jehovah witness belief is totally wrong of course

Sane and also insane people can glaringly see that
But that is why you shouldn't have rushed to defend them.

The original question was asked by a Christian who wanted an answer probably because an atheist asked him.

Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Enlightened.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

And he was answered with scriptural evidences to back it up. The summary is that God is EVERYWHERE (Omnipresent) and thus the whole of Existence is within Him.

The JW say that their Jehovah is NOT everywhere!
The implication is that their Jehovah must be somewhere

Thus the Question!

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything



A Flawed doctrine cannot answer this question!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20am On Feb 14
You need to humbly BEG us to TEACH you not stylishly trying to extort answers to questions you don't know from Jehovah's Witnesses.

On a thread someone asked:

IYANGBALI:
I was just going through my holy bible some couple of minutes ago,Genesis to be precised and chapter 1 verse 1 says " In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." a question now came to my mind,where was God living before he created heaven,honestly i am not trying to play any pranks here i just want to be enlightened and i would be grateful if anyone out there could help me out.

Instantly a honest commentator sad:

Woke4all:
Contact a Jehovah`s witness for help

Now you want to throw the question to Jehovah's Witnesses because you don't know how to answer.

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 8:29am On Feb 14
MaxInDHouse:


What is the name of your church?

I have been asking you this question for many years but instead of answering you keep raising questions.

Oya answer mẹ today or keep your own question too! cheesy
The name of my Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Nazareth
Mat 16:18:
"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

We gather in the name of Jesus many times a week
Mat 18:20:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the middle of them."

And the Lord Jesus is in our midst.
In my Church, We learn to Love God, Love man, Live in Purity, Serve God with all we have, Preach the Gospel and sometimes Cast out demons and Pray for the Sick when we encounter any in the course of our business.

I will be surprised if you know my church because it is very very small

You want to change to subject!? Sorry!

At least you know that I am a so-called Trinitarian: this should be enough for you.


So, I have answered you your question.
The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 8:54am On Feb 14
MaxInDHouse:

You need to humbly BEG us to TEACH you not stylishly trying to extort answers to questions you don't know from Jehovah's Witnesses.
Okay Mr Maximus,
I beg you on my humble knees to beg you to teach us. I asked two of your members this same question when the came to my house to teach me bible and both of them were perplexed, confused as they don't have an answer. Since then, even though they promised to come back, they've been dodging my house whenever they come me to my area. Since you are an Elder, you should know the answer.So, I bring it online.
By the way, it was from you I learnt that your Jehovah is NOT Omnipresent!

So, humbly on my knees I ask you to teach us by answering the question!

MaxInDHouse:

Instantly a honest commentator sad:
Now you want to throw the question to Jehovah's Witnesses because you don't know how to answer.

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! wink
According to the Trinitarian doctrine you despise, the question had been answered both in the original thread and also in the first page of my post.
Let me help you to remember !

TenQ:

The answer is extremely simple and built into the Trinity. What did Jesus teach?

God is SPIRIT (the infinite Spirit) who is EVERYWHERE.
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."


As the Holy Spirit, God is INVISIBLE either on the earth (Physical Realm) or the heavens (Spiritual realm). The Holy Spirit is like AIR (RUACH) whose Presence through His actions can only be felt. In other words, the Holy Spirit is the Omnipresent existence of God.

Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."
Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"


The Word (The Son , Jesus) on Earth is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God, the Messanger of God's presence.

Colossians 1:15:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation"


The Father is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God in the Heavens who sits on the throne in heaven to preside over it.


This is why in Genesis 19:24, Yahweh on earth could rain down fire from Yahweh in heaven.

Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."


This is why in the Throne room of the FATHER in Heaven, you cannot SEE the Holy Spirit. You can only see the Father and the Word (the Lamb, the Son) because ALL EXISTENCE are inside Him


So the question of WHERE was God is misinformed because ALL existence physical and spiritual is INSIDE God.


The whole Universe physical and spiritual are all a tiny subset WITHIN God as the Holy Spirit.



Cc: IYANGBALI , utelee , Solomon111 , Apache , denitro , mczenos , mantras , plappville , ichuka , felixedet , macof , JMAN05 , mozeez11 , Mysteriousworld , Olaadegbu


The JW say that their Jehovah is NOT everywhere!
The implication is that their Jehovah must be somewhere

Thus the Question!

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything


Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 9:03am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:



You think you can know God and be like "Finally, I now know where he is from and where he is currently" even after spending all your lifetime chasing the air?
Yes!
The God Yahweh is EVERYWHERE in space and time either Physical or Spiritual space. Every existence is a sunset of His majesty .
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:39am On Feb 14
TenQ:

The name of my Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Nazareth
Mat 16:18:
"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

We gather in the name of Jesus many times a week
Mat 18:20:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the middle of them."

And the Lord Jesus is in our midst.
In my Church, We learn to Love God, Love man, Live in Purity, Serve God with all we have, Preach the Gospel and sometimes Cast out demons and Pray for the Sick when we encounter any in the course of our business.

I will be surprised if you know my church because it is very very small

You want to change to subject!? Sorry!

At least you know that I am a so-called Trinitarian: this should be enough for you.


So, I have answered you your question.
The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything




Which church doesn't claim Jesus of Nazareth?

Dey play! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:43am On Feb 14
TenQ:
This question may seem strange to many Christians as it is assumed that that that we worship the same God but with different understanding?

I used to believe this same thing until Maximus of the JW told me that their God is not Omnipresent like the God of the Trinitarian Christians.

I probably wouldn't ask this question if not because
IYANGBALI asked the question
Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Enlightened.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

The response of where God Resides before He created ANYTHING can be summed up with this response in quote by the Trinitarian Christians







So, the Question for JW is this
Since Jehovah of the Jehovah's Witness is not Omnipresent, the logical thing is that he is LOCATED somewhere even before and after he created everything
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything



Please let the JWs educate us!

Thanks

Cc: MaxInDHouse and the rest of the JW crew
Does the Bible teach that God is present everywhere?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:45am On Feb 14
TenQ:

I asked a simple question now!

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything




Every wrong doctrine break down under interrogation!
What space and time are you referring to? Is it the one present In this physical universe?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:46am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:


That Jehovah witness belief is totally wrong of course

Sane and also insane people can glaringly see that
Does the Bible teach that God is everywhere?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:47am On Feb 14
TenQ:

In the Beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

But God had self-existed before creating ANYTHING.

Trinitarians say that ALL existence physical and spiritual are INSIDE God as He is Omnipresent.

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything

So if you agree that God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning, where was he before he Created those things?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:49am On Feb 14
TenQ:

But that is why you shouldn't have rushed to defend them.

The original question was asked by a Christian who wanted an answer probably because an atheist asked him.

Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Enlightened.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

And he was answered with scriptural evidences to back it up. The summary is that God is EVERYWHERE (Omnipresent) and thus the whole of Existence is within Him.

The JW say that their Jehovah is NOT everywhere!
The implication is that their Jehovah must be somewhere

Thus the Question!

Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything



A Flawed doctrine cannot answer this question!
So are you saying that the devil is part and within God?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On Feb 14
Truthseeker10:

Does the Bible teach that God is present everywhere?

They will never answer but want JWs to address all their troubles! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:52am On Feb 14
TenQ:

Yes!
The God Yahweh is EVERYWHERE in space and time either Physical or Spiritual space. Every existence is a sunset of His majesty .
So your God is also in the devil?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:00am On Feb 14
Truthseeker10:

So your God is also in the devil?

Because i reminded one of them that i'm not one of his brothers @ 5:21 am this morning that's why he started another thread about JWs meanwhile it's the same question none of them could answer on the thread that he now wants JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES to help them answer.

They must BEG for it not arrogantly using style to direct questions to JWs!cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Feb 14
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

Jehovah's Witnesses will not TEACH you unless you agree that we are your teachers! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 11:34am On Feb 14
MaxInDHouse:


Which church doesn't claim Jesus of Nazareth?

Dey play! cheesy
You asked a question and I have answered you. Do you know every single denomination of Churches in the world?

So, where was your Jehovah before he created the heavens and the earth?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 11:46am On Feb 14
Truthseeker10:

Does the Bible teach that God is present everywhere?
Yes!
The Bible teaches that God is EVERYWHERE!

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven , You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol , behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea , even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me.


Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"


Jesus even said:
Mat 18:20:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the middle of them."



See how instead of answering my questions, I am the one teaching you.

Will you now answer my question before digressing as usual!


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ: 11:47am On Feb 14
Truthseeker10:

What space and time are you referring to? Is it the one present In this physical universe?
EVERYWHERE W!
Both physical and spiritual space and time and beyond!

Did you not read my original post?

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