@Thankgod this is thread
With the help of the Holy Ghost I will be showing you the difference between everlasting life and eternal life. Though this words may have the same meaning but biblical they are different. And I will be using John 3:14-16 as the main verse.
"And as Moses lifted the serpent in the wilderness, so must the son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth In him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth In him should not perish but have everlasting life.
In verse 14, the Bible talks about an event that happened to the children of Israel after they left Egypt. They disobeyed God and God made serpent to come out from the ground to bit the children of Israel. They were dying from the vernom of the serpent until Moses cried to God and ask for forgiveness. God now told Moses to make a golden statue of a serpent that anyone that look at that serpent will not die. And the Lord Jesus Christ said as that serpent was lifted up so he the son of man will be lifted up. And as the children of Israel were save from vernom of the serpent, when he is lifted up we would be saved.
From verse 14 I want you to note the word son of man. The Lord Jesus said so he as the son of man must be lifted up. He wasn't talking of the the son of God here he was talking of the son of man.
For us to really know what eternal life is, we must know the Lord Jesus as the son of man. Who Jesus is as the son of man and what he did as a son of man. Our understanding of this is what give us eternal life. The Lord Jesus is the son of God in heaven. But he came to the world and become the son of a man called Joseph and Mary. I know some will argue that Mary the mother of Jesus was pregnant through the Holy Ghost but Joseph was still the earthly Father of Jesus. It was through the lineage of Joseph the Lord Jesus came to earth. So he came to this world and became the son of Joseph and Mary. Why this is important, is because if you don't know the Lord Jesus as the son of man, it will be difficult for you to know and believe in the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus. BECAUSE JESUS CAN ONLY DIE AS THE SON OF MAN AND NOT AS THE SON OF GOD. Jesus as the son of man is a human being but Jesus as the son of God is a spirit. Spirit cannot die. Spirit cannot be seen or touch. So fo the Lord Jesus to die for our sins and resurrect, he must come to this world and become the son of a man. And it our faith in the Lord Jesus as a son of man that gives us eternal life. And as the serpent was lifted up so must the son of man be lifted up that whosoever that believe in him should not perish but have eternal life. Ponder on this. If you have any questions you can ask. I will continue later

delkuf:

@Thankgod this is thread
With the help of the Holy Ghost I will be showing you the difference between everlasting life and eternal life.

Where are they?

delkuf:
@Thankgod this is thread
With the help of the Holy Ghost I will be showing you the difference between everlasting life and eternal life. Though this words may have the same meaning but biblical they are different. And I will be using John 3:14-16 as the main verse.
"And as Moses lifted the serpent in the wilderness, so must the son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth In him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth In him should not perish but have everlasting life.
In verse 14, the Bible talks about an event that happened to the children of Israel after they left Egypt. They disobeyed God and God made serpent to come out from the ground to bit the children of Israel. They were dying from the vernom of the serpent until Moses cried to God and ask for forgiveness. God now told Moses to make a golden statue of a serpent that anyone that look at that serpent will not die. And the Lord Jesus Christ said as that serpent was lifted up so he the son of man will be lifted up. And as the children of Israel were save from vernom of the serpent, when he is lifted up we would be saved.
From verse 14 I want you to note the word son of man. The Lord Jesus said so he as the son of man must be lifted up. He wasn't talking of the the son of God here he was talking of the son of man.
For us to really know what eternal life is, we must know the Lord Jesus as the son of man. Who Jesus is as the son of man and what he did as a son of man. Our understanding of this is what give us eternal life. The Lord Jesus is the son of God in heaven. But he came to the world and become the son of a man called Joseph and Mary. I know some will argue that Mary the mother of Jesus was pregnant through the Holy Ghost but Joseph was still the earthly Father of Jesus. It was through the lineage of Joseph the Lord Jesus came to earth. So he came to this world and became the son of Joseph and Mary. Why this is important, is because if you don't know the Lord Jesus as the son of man, it will be difficult for you to know and believe in the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus. BECAUSE JESUS CAN ONLY DIE AS THE SON OF MAN AND NOT AS THE SON OF GOD. Jesus as the son of man is a human being but Jesus as the son of God is a spirit. Spirit cannot die. Spirit cannot be seen or touch. So fo the Lord Jesus to die for our sins and resurrect, he must come to this world and become the son of a man. And it our faith in the Lord Jesus as a son of man that gives us eternal life. And as the serpent was lifted up so must the son of man be lifted up that whosoever that believe in him should not perish but have eternal life. Ponder on this. If you have any questions you can ask. I will continue later

Based on what you wrote, you have not clearly distinguished between everlasting life and eternal life.

You quoted John 3:14, where Jesus compares this Old Testament event to His own crucifixion. For what?

Do you even understand why Jesus called himself the Son of Man? Are you aware that the title "Son of God" was a message from Angel Gabriel?

We who call ourselves sons of God—are we spirits? Do you truly understand what it means to be a son of God?



You also mentioned that some people might argue that Mary, the mother of Jesus, conceived through the Holy Spirit—is that not correct?

Lastly, you stated, "And it is our faith in the Lord Jesus as the Son of Man that gives us eternal life."

But what exactly is eternal life?

Thankgod89:


Based on what you wrote, you have not clearly distinguished between everlasting life and eternal life.

You quoted John 3:14, where Jesus compares this Old Testament event to His own crucifixion. For what?

Do you even understand why Jesus called himself the Son of Man? Are you aware that the title "Son of God" was a message from Angel Gabriel?

We who call ourselves sons of God—are we spirits? Do you truly understand what it means to be a son of God?



You also mentioned that some people might argue that Mary, the mother of Jesus, conceived through the Holy Spirit—is that not correct?

Lastly, you stated, "And it is our faith in the Lord Jesus as the Son of Man that gives us eternal life."

But what exactly is eternal life?

I told you to ponder on this. That I will continue. I had stop and see if you have any questions to ask.
Ask yourself, who is God? Is God a human being or a spirit.
Am not saying it is not correct that Mary got pregnant through the Holy Ghost. I was trying to show that even though Mary got pregnant through the Holy Ghost, Joseph was still the earthly Father of the Lord Jesus. It was through the lineage of Joseph that the Lord Jesus became a human being. That was what I was emphasis on. Are we going to say that the Holy Ghost is the earthly Father of Jesus because Mary got pregnant through the Holy Ghost.

Imagine this kain nonsense, abeg! 🙄🙄🙄

delkuf:
I told you to ponder on this. That I will continue. I had stop and see if you have any questions to ask.
Ask yourself, who is God? Is God a human being or a spirit.
Am not saying it is not correct that Mary got pregnant through the Holy Ghost. I was trying to show that even though Mary got pregnant through the Holy Ghost, Joseph was still the earthly Father of the Lord Jesus. It was through the lineage of Joseph that the Lord Jesus became a human being. That was what I was emphasis on. Are we going to say that the Holy Ghost is the earthly Father of Jesus because Mary got pregnant through the Holy Ghost.

Continue!

delkuf:
@Thankgod this is thread
With the help of the Holy Ghost I will be showing you the difference between everlasting life and eternal life. Though this words may have the same meaning but biblical they are different. And I will be using John 3:14-16 as the main verse.
"And as Moses lifted the serpent in the wilderness, so must the son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth In him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth In him should not perish but have everlasting life.
In verse 14, the Bible talks about an event that happened to the children of Israel after they left Egypt. They disobeyed God and God made serpent to come out from the ground to bit the children of Israel. They were dying from the vernom of the serpent until Moses cried to God and ask for forgiveness. God now told Moses to make a golden statue of a serpent that anyone that look at that serpent will not die. And the Lord Jesus Christ said as that serpent was lifted up so he the son of man will be lifted up. And as the children of Israel were save from vernom of the serpent, when he is lifted up we would be saved.
From verse 14 I want you to note the word son of man. The Lord Jesus said so he as the son of man must be lifted up. He wasn't talking of the the son of God here he was talking of the son of man.
For us to really know what eternal life is, we must know the Lord Jesus as the son of man. Who Jesus is as the son of man and what he did as a son of man. Our understanding of this is what give us eternal life. The Lord Jesus is the son of God in heaven. But he came to the world and become the son of a man called Joseph and Mary. I know some will argue that Mary the mother of Jesus was pregnant through the Holy Ghost but Joseph was still the earthly Father of Jesus. It was through the lineage of Joseph the Lord Jesus came to earth. So he came to this world and became the son of Joseph and Mary. Why this is important, is because if you don't know the Lord Jesus as the son of man, it will be difficult for you to know and believe in the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus. BECAUSE JESUS CAN ONLY DIE AS THE SON OF MAN AND NOT AS THE SON OF GOD. Jesus as the son of man is a human being but Jesus as the son of God is a spirit. Spirit cannot die. Spirit cannot be seen or touch. So fo the Lord Jesus to die for our sins and resurrect, he must come to this world and become the son of a man. And it our faith in the Lord Jesus as a son of man that gives us eternal life. And as the serpent was lifted up so must the son of man be lifted up that whosoever that believe in him should not perish but have eternal life. Ponder on this. If you have any questions you can ask. I will continue later

Delku, all these was Off Point not to talk of them being kind of twisted eg The Lord simply used the event of Moses lifting up to signify His Lift up, and every one understood it only for you to now bend it to the "son of man" (another topic) to give your own understanding of it, which of course you know people will contest.

But all these are not the issue.

We are interested in seeing how you came about drawing a distinction between everlasting life and eternal life. So do tell us directly why you think they are different. No long long story

Yawa don gas!
Person wey no sabi Bible wan preach!

Because of time, I will go straight to the point.
When you give you life to Christ, you are given a everlasting life. A life that translates us to heaven. John 3:16 "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth In him should not perish but have everlasting life". When you believe in Lord Jesus as the son of God who came to earth to die for the sins of mankind, you are saved. You are given everlasting life. The life that make us citizens of heaven. But the problem is that we are still here on earth. We didn't leave the earth and go to heaven immediately. We still leave in this world of the devil and evil. How do we live through this world as a child of God that has been given everlasting life. A record was made in heaven by the Father, the son and the Holy Ghost(1 John 5:7) that anyone that believe on the Lord Jesus, will eternal life. So eternal life is the life of the Holy Spirit. A life that enable us to live here on earth with power over the devil and this world. A life that give us dominion. You will live a ordinary life even though you are saved until you have eternal life. You may have your life to Christ. You may believe in the Lord Jesus and have everlasting life and still be powerless. It is when you have the Holy Spirit become your life that you will have dominion over the devil and this world. Romans 8:10 says, And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness. It is only when the spirit becomes your life that he quicken your mortal bodies(Verse 11). It is then that the Holy Spirit will give life to your body. He will give you the abundant life the Lord Jesus talks about in John 10:10. Then you live free over the devil.


So everlasting life comes when we believe in the Lord Jesus and give our lives to him. We are saved with everlasting life. We are guarantee of heaven. But we still here on earth. So the the power and life we need to live through this life so that we don't lose the everlasting life given to us, is eternal life. EVERLASTING LIFE THE LIFE OF HEAVEN WHILE ETERNAL LIFE THE LIFE OF EARTH. Thanks I will stop here for now

delkuf:
Because of time, I will go straight to the point.
When you give you life to Christ, you are given a everlasting life. A life that translates us to heaven. John 3:16 "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth In him should not perish but have everlasting life". When you believe in Lord Jesus that glhe is the son of God who came to earth to die for the sins of mankind, you are saved. You are given everlasting life. The life that make us citizens of heaven. But the problem is that we are still here on earth. We didn't leave the earth and go to heaven immediately. We still leave in this world of the devil and evil. How do we live through this world as a child of God that has been given everlasting life. A record was made in heaven by the Father, the son and the Holy Ghost(1 John 5:7) that anyone that believe on the Lord Jesus, will eternal life. So eternal life is the life of the Holy Spirit. A life that enable us to live here on earth with power over the devil and this world. A life that give us dominion. You will live a ordinary life even though you are saved until you have eternal life. You may have your life to Christ. You may believe in the Lord Jesus and have everlasting life and still be powerless. It is when you have the Holy Spirit become your life that you with and dominion over the devil and this world. Romans 8:10 says, And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness. It is only when the spirit becomes your life that he quicken your mortal bodies(Verse 11). It is then that the Holy Spirit will give life to your body. He will give you the abundant life the Lord Jesus talks about in John 10:10.


So everlasting life comes when we believe in the Lord Jesus and give our lives to him, he give us everlasting life. He saved us. We guarantee of heaven. But we still here on earth. So the the power and life that we need to live through in this life so that we don't lose the everlasting life given to us, we are given eternal life. SO I CALL EVERLASTING LIFE THE LIFE OF HEAVEN WHILE ETERNAL LIFE THE LIFE OF EARTH. Thanks I will stop here for now

You be confirmed Olódo!

John 3:16 says Everlasting life is God's gift for believing in Jesus while other translations called it Eternal life.

So stop deceiving yourself you goofed big time, humbly learn from those who knows!

StillDtruth:


Delku, all these was Off Point not to talk of them being kind of twisted eg The Lord simply used the event of Moses lifting up to signify His Lift up, and every one understood it only for you to now bend it to the "son of man" (another topic) to give your own understanding of it, which of course you know people will contest.

But all these are not the issue.

We are interested in seeing how you came about drawing a distinction between everlasting life and eternal life. So do tell us directly why you think they are different. No long long story

bring out your point constructively so that we know what you are saying

MaxInDHouse:

You be confirmed Olódo!

John 3:16 says Everlasting life is God's gift for believing in Jesus while other translations called it Eternal life.

So stop deceiving yourself you goofed big time, humbly learn from those who knows!

am I arguing if is not God gift. You just talk anyhow

delkuf:

am I arguing if is not God gift. You just talk anyhow

Everlasting life and Eternal life means the same thing.
That's what everyone is telling you!

MaxInDHouse:

Everlasting life and Eternal life means the same thing.
That's what everyone is telling you!

that is to you. See we are not fighting. I cannot believe you for anything. So pls keep your thoughts to yourself

delkuf:

See we are not fighting.

But you've been trailing me up and down the forum with insults simply because i'm one of JWs.
Now you are typing nonsense saying everlasting life is not eternal life.
Surely you no dey go church at all nah to read and start arguing blindly you dey do!

delkuf:
bring out your point constructively so that we know what you are saying

I did already starting with the biggest one being that you were traveling far from the point (Off Point).

StillDtruth:


I did already starting with the biggest one being that you were traveling far from the point (Off Point).

you have not said anything. Tell me how I went off point. So to you if the Lord Jesus said he is the son of man it doesn't mean anything. My brother there is no mistake in the Bible. Everything the was said is what it is. If the Lord Jesus said he is the son of man so he is the son of man. You need to grow in reading the Bible

delkuf:
Because of time, I will go straight to the point.
When you give you life to Christ, you are given a everlasting life. A life that translates us to heaven...
But the problem is that we are still here on earth. We didn't leave the earth and go to heaven immediately. We still leave in this world of the devil and evil. How do we live through this world as a child of God that has been given everlasting life. A record was made in heaven by the Father, the son and the Holy Ghost(1 John 5:7) that anyone that believe on the Lord Jesus, will eternal life. So eternal life is the life of the Holy Spirit. A life that enable us to live here on earth with power over the devil and this world. A life that give us dominion. You will live a ordinary life even though you are saved until you have eternal life. You may have your life to Christ. You may believe in the Lord Jesus and have everlasting life and still be powerless. It is when you have the Holy Spirit become your life that you will have dominion over the devil and this world. Romans 8:10 says, And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness. It is only when the spirit becomes your life that he quicken your mortal bodies(Verse 11). It is then that the Holy Spirit will give life to your body. He will give you the abundant life the Lord Jesus talks about in John 10:10. Then you live free over the devil.


So everlasting life comes when we believe in the Lord Jesus and give our lives to him. We are saved with everlasting life. We are guarantee of heaven. But we still here on earth. So the the power and life we need to live through this life so that we don't lose the everlasting life given to us, is eternal life. EVERLASTING LIFE THE LIFE OF HEAVEN WHILE ETERNAL LIFE THE LIFE OF EARTH. Thanks I will stop here for now

This is rubbish!

Man already has eternal life because God has made man's spirit, eternal as proven by God calling Lazarus and the girl back to life on earth by calling their names.

And the Bible already shows us that there are 2 eternal lifes

1) Eternal life of Damnation dwelling in hellfire and

2) Eternal Life of Goodness dwelling in the new heaven and earth

And Jesus was obviously referring to Eternal Life 2) as the bible already hinted since Psalms.

So, what you are saying is far from correct.