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Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by EPOMA(m): 9:04pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
ujchief:Charity starts at home, this is how Jonathan escape the debate before election and people could not see that |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
Prof. Chukwu is a very decent man and a core professional. He was certainly wise enough to know that he didn't need to involve himself in a matter that does not concern him. He might only become involved when the General hospitals start treating casualties from the subsidy protests nationwide. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by Bokkohharam: 9:20pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
Minister of health dat is schedule to represent the government refuse to show up for the faceoff just because he has nothing to say. Thank God he did nt come cos i am sure guys will be waiting 4 him after the debate. The guy is a liar. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by eros(m): 9:29pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
musKeeto: I say a big Amen at the bolded. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by talktrue1(m): 10:20pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
That guy has facts and he could have disgraced prof chukwu. Imagine Labour Minister saying that nigerians dont know why they are on the streets protesting. are we children? |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by Tushed: 10:45pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
the minister was still on his way five minutes to 9 pm, |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by Nobody: 11:04pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
Tushed: Lol. He is still on his way even as we speak. He will get there after the studio closes for the day. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by stagger: 11:32pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
When you have Professors who are supposed to guard their status, now lying on behalf of government, it is a shame. What stopped him from simply saying that he could not make it? |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by Shinatu: 11:35pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
musKeeto: Doctors actually do that you know? |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by kokoA(m): 11:44pm On Jan 04, 2012 |
GEJ will teach that man a lesson for chickening out after spending tax payers money flying from Abuja to Lagos, only to hide in his hotel room (I wonder who he was with ) and lying to the presenter that he was on his way |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by r231(m): 1:10am On Jan 05, 2012 |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by honeric01(m): 4:39am On Jan 05, 2012 |
, maybe the minister caught one of the curses! |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by samstels: 6:10am On Jan 05, 2012 |
But mr ubani could not answer a question that was thrown to him ;what has NLC and TUC done to the civil servants in Nnpc ,dpr etc who they say is corrupt and cook up. Books for the so called cabal on subsidy manipulation ? Also the NURTW members hiked up pices by over 400 percent even though there was just 100 pecent increament on PMS,na we dey kill ourselves no be govt. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by klas(m): 8:11am On Jan 05, 2012 |
^^^ That was the question the minister should have asked ubani if he had not chickened out. He would at least have insisted on a good answer instead of the thrash about govt being the initiator of the spiral inflation. But is NLC to blame for not curtailing civil servants' corruption in govt? What has the employer (govt in this case) done? What are the options opened to a civil servant that refuse to carry out instructions 'from the above'? Resign? Only a fool fights with his bread and butter. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by moshoodn(m): 8:18am On Jan 05, 2012 |
We're so tired of debates men! |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by chelseabmw(m): 8:25am On Jan 05, 2012 |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by sharubutu(m): 2:41pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
look guys, we are learned. don't let anybody deceive us thrgh any debate or explaination. subsidy removal is evil and satanic, and we must fight with all our might. |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by AmeLonRo(m): 3:09pm On Jan 05, 2012 |
Who and who's debating? GEJ against Ngozi or Sanusi against Sanusa? decided |
Re: Live Debate On Fuel Subsidy Removal On Channels Tv At 8pm by Kenechy: 1:14am On Jan 06, 2012 |
*JONATHAN AND REMOVAL OF FUEL SUBSIDY- NO GOOD CARE FOR THE POOR MASSES.* If I may say, our past governments and Jonathan have not shown much love to the poor masses but a camouflage, unlike in some countries were the government is trying to make the rich and the poor alike. Some years ago, CNN correspondents went to China to hear from the poor but opinion of those thought to be poor are not because they said that government cares for them. According to Finance Minister, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the fuel subsidy is actually benefited by a wealthy few. The actual amount for PMS is about *N*139 and then the government pays up *N*74 to let the price fall to *N*65. The *N *74 is the amount paid by the government as subsidy. Now, if the subsidy is removed, will the wealthy few still enjoy this money? Yes of course. They will still sell their products at *N*139, but this time, the masses will pay the money. Even if the PMS rise to *N*160 or down to *N*110, the wealthy few will still make the money and have their way. The government, in an attempt to have a win on its decision to remove the fuel subsidy has gone as far as spending a whopping sum on those who are seen as a threat to its decision. But there are many others who are ready to give their lives than allow this removal of fuel subsidy. *DANGERS THAT CAN ERUPT FROM THIS REMOVAL OF FUELL SUBSIDY* *1. Fixed Income Recipients like Civil Servants and Others will be Hurt.* Because while the price inflation increases, their income doesn’t increase, therefore their income will have less value. Because the price of fuel has increased, invariably the cost of transportation, the prices of goods and services will increase too. Then who will suffer this? The civil servants and some others in private sectors suffer it because their salaries remain the same. Unless the President, Governors, Private Sector will promise increment in the salaries of civil servants and other workers in private sector. But if that is done, there may be risk of monetary inflation (i.e. when there is a rise in the quantity of money in an economy). *2. Risk of Inflation.* Inflation hurts economy, individuals and companies alike. The pin-point here is basically the price inflation(i.e. when there is a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services). Because the price of fuel has increased the cost of transportation, the prices of goods and services will increase too. If the cost of transportations, prices of goods and services increase, my fellow Nigerians who will suffer this, if not the poor masses. It is time to bridge the gap between the rich and the poor in this our noble country. *3. Fear of Embezzlement, Dishonesty, Mismanagement, and Instability in Government.* The poor masses cannot trust the government any longer because the past governments have raped their trust. The people see the government and the politicians as embezzlers and empirically I think this is true. How can we trust you now my President if you will not follow their footsteps? You have to prove otherwise to the poor masses before they can trust the government and politicians again. You might be honest but what about other government officials, politicians who will manage the proceeds from this? *4. Eruption of Autocratic Government* The government is inviting the spirit of Arab Springs with its dogmatic decision. In Nigeria, we practice democracy, which was defined by Abraham Lincoln as the government of the people, by the people and for the people. If the majority of the masses are against this removal of fuel subsidy why should the government go on to uphold it. Mr. President, the masses employ you to be there and work for them. You are a ‘servant’ and the masses are the ‘employer’ as rightly pointed out by late President Yar’adua. We elected you for our own benefits. Do not alone decide for us but we all decide for ourselves for common good. Our government shouldn’t be autocratic in policy but seek the opinion of the masses in its decision making. This is clear evidence that autocratic government is cropping up in Nigeria to rape our democratic government. My fellow Nigerians, let us say no to this eruption. *5. The Mind of the Initiators* My president, what do you think were in the mind of these noble fuel subsidy initiators? Don’t you think it may be a way of helping & showing good care & love to the poor & less privileged? Don’t you think it’s a way for the Nigerians to enjoy this God’s gift of crude oil & other natural resources in our noble country, which are not only to be enjoyed by the cartels & cabals. This is a country where we have great unemployment .A person you went to school with is been paid in millions because he or she has his or her way to the government, while his or her mates who are out there unemployed even with better results have nothing doing. There is need to revisit the past & know the cause of things. The beginners have something in mind when initiating this noble fuel subsidy. Until we transcend that stage, I don’t think it is just to remove it now. *6. Discouragement of the Investors and Savings* Many investors may be scared to invest in Nigeria. Many companies will have to go out of business because of the losses they may incur during this inflation and its effects. There might be investors in area like refinery but what about other areas. When many companies go out of business, unemployment will increase. This is incomparable with employment of the prospective refineries by investors. If it will work because there are insecurity, power failure, less infrastructures etc. to welcome and accommodate these investors. Saving money in the banks or anywhere is negatively effected and discouraged because saving money would mean watching your cash decrease in value day after day, so people may tend to spend the cash on something else. The central bank and other banks will loss likewise. *7. Our Value of Money in Danger* The increase in the price of fuel brings increase in the prices of goods and services. This brings price inflation thereby low value of money is one its negative effects. *8. Currency Debasement and Rising Prices of Imports* When there is low value of money and other negative effects from this inflation, it lowers the value of our currency. If the currency is debased, then naira purchasing power in the international market is lower. *POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES.* Why subsidy removal? Because the government is trying to liberalized the market fire. I believe a reasonable government will try work on the system before putting the load on the innocent masses that are already drowning in poverty as a result of bad government. I think the possible thing to do is to build refinery in 6 geo- political zones. Think about repairing our refineries and stopping importation of fuels since we have these natural resources in our country. Then the poor masses may not feel the pains of fuel subsidy removal. The most of what Jonathan was promising to do with the extra oil revenue were already accommodated in the budget even without subsidy. The government should engage themselves in cutting down the salaries, allowances and other running expenses of the top government officials especially the lawmakers from the federal to the local government. Imagine a lawmaker going home with more than *N*255,000,000 and *N*224,000,000 yearly. Then you can calculate this for a tenure(4yrs) or two tenures(8yrs) and multiply it with their numbers(i.e. 109 senators& 306 house of representatives) and see our country’s trillions of naira in the cartel’s pockets while the poor masses continue to suffer. The government has no plan or future for the poor masses. Governor of Central Bank, Sanusi Lamido had last year said that lawmakers consume 25 percent of Nigeria overhead budget. According to Olusegun Mimiko, the Governor of Ondo State, Nigeria spends about *N*24.5 trillion yearly which is about $160 billions in importation of food. We have land resources, human resources but the government does not care to utilize these to help the poor masses. They only inflict pains on the masses by trying to remove fuel subsidy. The president should ask himself this question “what if there is no crude oil in Nigeria?” The biggest problem of our country is not subsidy but corruption. If the president can deal with this corruption especially among politicians, cartels, cabals and individuals, he will surely have a lot of fund to move this noble country to a greater height. There is insecurity in the country. Does this not occur to the president that it is effects of unemployment of these promising youths in the country? Blessed are those who know the cause of things because cause has effects. Instead of our lawmakers debating on the causes of the present situation in our country and see solution to it. They sat and discussed about the same-sex marriage (gay) issue which has nothing to do with African Culture. The lawmakers should have known that this cannot work in Nigeria because African moral values and culture has no place for it. It is a deadly virus from the Western World. My President and the lawmakers, please there are other issues to discuss that is brutally effecting the nation like insecurity, unemployment, corruption, electricity etc. Finally, there are many ways to better our economy and the lives of the people. The money to set-up infrastructures, companies, refineries etc must not come from the proceeds of fuel subsidy but can come through other means. Yes the removal of fuel subsidy has its positives effects but I think it is not yet time to remove it my president. Think about the fate of the poor people of Nigeria, think about us the unemployed youths. Where do we get the money to buy goods and services especially fuel if the subsidy is removed. Thanks *OKAFOR KENNETH* *Kenitho27@gmail.com* <Kenitho27@gmail.com> *08063457763* *20 ST MICHEAL STR. ABAGANA, P.O. BOX 243 ABAGANA, ANAMBRA STATE, NIGERIA* |
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