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Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jan 21, 2012
What we need is a foreign President and VP. All Senators and Reps must all be foreign too. Lastly we need foreign governors and deputy governors. And I am very very serious. That is the only way out!
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 6:46pm On Jan 21, 2012
Bullshit!! Am very suprised that everyone is agreeing to this stupid idea. This idea you all are agreeing to is just an indirect way of admiting that we black africans are inferior to the foreigners (whites), and we are not intelligent enough to solve our problems. I hope you guys wouldn't be upset when a whiteman says we blacks have lower IQ to solve problems. Why keep denying that black africans are inferior human species when our actions prove otherwise? Why can't we africans solve our problems and prove to foreigners that we are much as capable as they are since we deny we are not inferior? Disgusting!!!
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by UKBobo(m): 6:46pm On Jan 21, 2012
U r a joker, right? Guy we aint outsourcing phuck, so just hop-off this platform if u have nothing nice to say. We r yet to recover from this colonial "MOJO" called Nigeria, and u suggesting we go back to colonialism? I suggest u stop the brain-washing dude. Angry Angry


My friend, why are you angry. You are getting too excited! Please, look at this rationally and without emotion.  

I suggest that you out-source the basic elements of running the country. You can still have Nigerian politicians, governors - no-one will rule over you, but you just devolve the key elements of running the country to foreigners. I was in Lagos last year and I was told on more than one occasion by elders that things worked better with the British. It could be anyone, Chinese, Swedish, but a culture that gets things done and has a history of providing for it's people as opposed to providing killer roads, no light and robbers in and out of police uniform.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

Bullshit!! Am very suprised that everyone is agreeing to this silly idea. This idea you all are agreeing to is just an indirect way of admiting that we black africans are inferior to the foreigners (whites), and we are not intelligent enough to solve our problems. I hope you guys wouldn't be upset when a whiteman says we blacks have lower IQ to solve problems. Why keep denying that black africans are inferior human species when our actions prove otherwise? Why can't we africans solve our problems and prove to foreigners that we are much as capable as they are since we deny we are not inferior? Disgusting!!!

The poster said foreigners not whites. Lets clarify that. And yes, if we cant solve our problems ourselves, nothing wrong in seeking help. We have foreign coaches in football, why not for the police? Afterall, Obama's father is a Kenyan and he is president of the USA - a country where his father was a foreigner!
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by MAYOWAAK: 7:10pm On Jan 21, 2012
An old IGBO farmer wrote to his son in prison. This yr I want be able to plant potatoes cos I cant dig d field, I know if you were here you would help me. The son replied- Dad, don't even think of digging the field because that is where I buried d money I stole. The Nigerian police read the letter and the next day the whole field was dug by police looking for the money but found nothing. The son wrote back, "Now U can plant your potatoes Dad; Its the best I can do from here.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by tlops(m): 7:12pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

Bullshit!! Am very suprised that everyone is agreeing to this silly idea. This idea you all are agreeing to is just an indirect way of admiting that we black africans are inferior to the foreigners (whites), and we are not intelligent enough to solve our problems. I hope you guys wouldn't be upset when a whiteman says we blacks have lower IQ to solve problems. Why keep denying that black africans are inferior human species when our actions prove otherwise? Why can't we africans solve our problems and prove to foreigners that we are much as capable as they are since we deny we are not inferior? Disgusting!!!  
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I do not think anyone supports the idea per se. Come to think of it, what has the Nigeria gov't done right since we gained independent, tell me what was left by the british that we maintained till date. Something need to change in our governance and we are still  not there yet.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by KayDee4: 7:22pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

Bullshit!! Am very suprised that everyone is agreeing to this silly idea. This idea you all are agreeing to is just an indirect way of admiting that we black africans are inferior to the foreigners (whites), and we are not intelligent enough to solve our problems. I hope you guys wouldn't be upset when a whiteman says we blacks have lower IQ to solve problems. Why keep denying that black africans are inferior human species when our actions prove otherwise? Why can't we africans solve our problems and prove to foreigners that we are much as capable as they are since we deny we are not inferior? Disgusting!!!  


There should be no shame in that. Its like a doing a science research based on models. If you have the same or a similar problem which someone else has had in the past and solved, then you try to solve your own problem in the same way the other person did.

In this case, most other countries have a functional police force and we dont, so why cant we ask them to show us the way it is done. We clearly cannot find a solution to our security problems or @ least produce a decent police force. So what do we do ? Swallow our pride and ask people who have it working for them to come teach us.

It might not necessarily entail making a foreigner the IG but we're in dire need of foreign help, in the form of training or anything.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by beespak7(m): 7:26pm On Jan 21, 2012
I support the idea it might bring some sanity to our police force . But the problem is that the junior police officers like the AIGS will gang up to beef, mob, and fustrate the good work of the foreign IG. NO BE NAIJA WE DEY?
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 7:32pm On Jan 21, 2012
@Nashville. What exactly do you mean by saying "the poster said foreigners and not whites"? Are we going to seek the help of the arabs or the latinos? Who do you think we would likely consult for help if we needed it urgently? Don't tell me it wouldn't be whites please.
Secondly, it would be better to dispatch some Nigerians to the foreigners overseas for adequate training than for us to appoint a foreigner on our soil to do the job we Nigerians should do. Thats a shame. This is not an option.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Ngwakwe: 7:33pm On Jan 21, 2012
David Cameron the British PM employed the services an Ex American Service man who specialises in tackling Gang Crimes during the latest mayhem that rattled most cities in England. If Britain can do it why not Nigeria
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 7:37pm On Jan 21, 2012
@kay-dee. The poster should have mentioned TRAINING rather than appointing a foreigner.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by safarigirl(f): 7:40pm On Jan 21, 2012
Doesn't matter ωħ☺ we put, FG will always corrupt even the most honest ☺₣ men
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

@Nashville. What exactly do you mean by saying "the poster said foreigners and not whites"? Are we going to seek the help of the arabs or the latinos? Who do you think we would likely consult for help if we needed it urgently? Don't tell me it wouldn't be whites please.
Secondly, it would be better to dispatch some Nigerians to the foreigners overseas for adequate training than for us to appoint a foreigner on our soil to do the job we Nigerians should do. Thats a shame. This is not an option.

Yes I meant foreigners because you were talking about black people being inferior to whites. That is not the case, we as Nigerians have failed in managing corruption, it does not mean every black nation has failed so it is not about race. A black man is the president of America where black population is only 12%, it does not mean white people are inferior. My point is that Nigeria has failed to tackle corruption so we need help. No need to play the race card. Foreigners explore our Oil (no shame in that abi), lots of our major construction are done by foreigners (no shame in that abi).
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 7:48pm On Jan 21, 2012
@Ngwakwe. Its better we appoint a Ghanaian expert than an American expert. Appointing a non black will only serve to add substance to the racial theory held by whites
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 7:55pm On Jan 21, 2012
@Nashville. Foreigners exploring our oil and handling our construction projects is also shamefull bro.
Like I said earlier, its better we get the training from them and do it properly than for them to handle any jobs in Nigeria.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Ngwakwe: 7:57pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

@Ngwakwe. Its better we appoint a Ghanaian expert than an American expert. Appointing a non black will only serve to add substance to the racial theory held by whites

If colour of the skin is the problem, there are thousands of faithful African American/European Service men out there who are ready just to make a name and not even for the money.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

@Nashville. Foreigners exploring our oil and handling our construction projects is also shamefull bro.
Like I said earlier, its better we get the training from them and do it properly than for them to handle any jobs in Nigeria.

Bro, the issue is not training or intellect. The issue is trust and committment. How many Nigerians will have the opportunity to steal and not steal? I am being honest here. We need people who are trustworthy, who are not fully integrated into our corrupt system and mentality to drive change within our institutions. As I said, Nigerians are highly intelligent people, I have lived in both the US and Uk and I can tell you we stand out in intellect. The issue is willingness in channeling the intellect into results. That is where we have failed.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 8:03pm On Jan 21, 2012
We would be respected by foreigners ONLY when we learn to tackle our issues ourselves.
On the other hand, we may choose to remain the inferior beings by sitting back and calling outsiders for help always. Therefore telling the whole world that tackling corruption and providing good governance is beyond the capacity of a blackman.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by ShangoThor(m): 8:10pm On Jan 21, 2012
Beaf, you have actually hit the nail on the head with this one.

What people do not realize is that in general amongst the Citizenry, there is a general loss of confidence in the Services of the NPF.

I'm not too sure if you're are aware of this, but a few years back in Jamaica, they had the same issue and their solution was to hire an ex-British Police top dog in that post in order to instill some confidence back into the service.

At the time the Jamaican Police Force was bereft with corruption, extra-judicial killings and employing non scientific methods for Crime Detection and investigation. I watched a documentary where ordinary Jamaican citizens were commenting after a year into his appointment and they said they felt he was more impartial and objective and was proving to be effective at curbing the excesses of the corrupt Police. Hence on a personal note, I think this is a fantastic idea.

Furthermore, just imagine if this was extended to airports, all those Officials asking for bribes (for doing the jobs that they were appointed for in the fist place), or requests for gratuity payments would cease.

It's about time we start to insist on changing things around in this country for our generation.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Blackteeth(m): 8:13pm On Jan 21, 2012
Nashville, do you think tackling corruption is all about utilizing only the incorruptible people to do the job? That would NEVER work. Its only when we re-invent the system in such a way that a corrupt person has no free pass to steal that we see good results.
The system is the problem, not the people cos people will always be corrupt if given that opportunity that exists in Nigeria.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jan 21, 2012
Blackteeth:

Nashville, do you think tackling corruption is all about utilizing only the incorruptible people to do the job? That would NEVER work. Its only when we re-invent the system in such a way that a corrupt person has no free pass to steal that we see good results.
The system is the problem, not the people cos people will always be corrupt if given that opportunity that exists in Nigeria.

Agreed, so how do you fix the system? I don't think it should be with the same people that are part of the system. May be we should try someone new - (did I just say Fresh Air?)
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Ivynwa(f): 8:22pm On Jan 21, 2012
There is absolutely nothing a foreign IG can do to solve the problem we have, it's like recruiting a foreigner to fight Gangsterism when it is the persons in the country that knows who the real gangstas are---so tell me what can a foreigner do? Ask you to point out the Boko boyz for him? Mtcheeeew undecided undecided

Absolute waste of money, foreigners can be consulted on the mode of fighting down the menace but not decorating them with the high office of an IG and wasting resources to make them happy while we all can hardly benefit a dime from the resources that we have. They can bring in some crime detectives into the country to assist, I think that we need the advanced technology used in gathering info over crime at this point but make a foreigner an IG----nah, nah,nah!
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Odunnu: 8:39pm On Jan 21, 2012
ujchief:

The entire police force needs re-orientation, i wonder if that will solve the problem as our police has coruption imbedded in their DNA. A uk police boss will stil be in his abuja ofice while his nigerian comisioners release terosist and the mopol guys collect their roger.
I'll sugest a calabar man, just that we'll loose track of our police asaltian dogs :d:d
Bad mouth
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Ngwakwe: 8:58pm On Jan 21, 2012
@Beaf
Most people that have commented here may not be a fan of foreigners taking over our constitutional duties/jobs but at least they know how to reward hardworking and punish mediocrity thereby sanitizing the whole system within the shortest possible time. They also know when to hire or fire without ulterior motives
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by KnowAll(m): 8:58pm On Jan 21, 2012
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[size=18pt]What should be done is advertise for the post of the chief security officer of the nation with a $dollar salary just as we have both Nigerians and foreigners vie to be Nigerian football Coach so we SHOULD have Nigerians and foreigners vie for the post of IGP.[/size]
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by gaddafe(m): 9:22pm On Jan 21, 2012
Ivynwa:

There is absolutely nothing a foreign IG can do to solve the problem we have, it's like recruiting a foreigner to fight Gangsterism when it is the persons in the country that knows who the real gangstas are---so tell me what can a foreigner do? Ask you to point out the Boko boyz for him? Mtcheeeew undecided undecided

Absolute waste of money, foreigners can be consulted on the mode of fighting down the menace but not decorating them with the high office of an IG and wasting resources to make them happy while we all can hardly benefit a dime from the resources that we have. They can bring in some crime detectives into the country to assist, I think that we need the advanced technology used in gathering info over crime at this point but make a foreigner an IG----nah, nah,nah!
Gbam!!
Come to think of it, foreigners are even also corrupt. In some cases even more than Nigerians. I will give an example here. There was a time a foreigner was made to head the accounting dept in bursary section UNIBEN. It was later found that she was deducting a specific amount of money from the salaries of workers illegally. This later led to her sack.

My point is this: we have good foreigners and bad foreigners. We have good Nigerians and bad Nigerians. Unfortunatelty the bad Nigerians are selected in high ranks in the police force.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Bright2(m): 9:44pm On Jan 21, 2012
The problem here is that 90% of our gadgets are analog while the white uses digital so in this case they will still lack behind,just try visit an upgraded police station & what i mean!
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Adrian008(f): 9:54pm On Jan 21, 2012
We should revert to TRUE FEDERALISM. You know, the type practiced by the inventors of the concept, The Americans. We, in this country, are so used to indegenizing copy copy. If we should copy, lets copy all, or don't copy at all. In the States, EVERY State and county has its own police force with its own Chief of Police. That's a better idea. If Lagos has its own "IG" who was not subservient to anyone outside, tell me he won't be compelled to be more accountable.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by mpmp: 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2012
I hereby recommend George W. Bush, past president of the United States of America as the Inspector General of Police, international appointee for the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

This is because we have some weapons of mass destruction in the Northern part of Nigeria, which need to be found ASAP.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by studyineu: 10:02pm On Jan 21, 2012
Make foreigners the IG, Cps DIGs and see if de will last for 1 week and they will be corrupted. When they will be offered 100 million naira for an illegal deal I will see how they will reject it cause since their lifetime they have never made such money, the english de will speak once offered de money will be, Mehn dis is de time to make it bg here in naigaria.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by blackchief(m): 11:01pm On Jan 21, 2012
Poster, My brother or sister you spoke my mind. While i would like to add that all commissioner and DPO should also be made foreigner too and be allow to remain for five years to weed out and reform the police.
Re: Our Next Ig Should Be A Foreigner by Nobody: 12:05am On Jan 22, 2012
Whoever supports the idea of having a foreigner as IG should be shot to death, instantly without any recourse for explanation. This is the most absurd thing I have heard as a Nigerian. Same people that are fueling these bombings in Nigeria are the ones you are inviting? What is wrong with some of us? How many times will I have to explain this on here, don't take me for my words, GO AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH: The Americans, Brits, Israelis and many other western countries are behind these spate of bombings in Nigeria. THESE PEOPLE WANT NIGERIA DIVIDED AND THE REPUBLIC OF NIGER DELTA CREATED.  That's all they are after. And I am afraid to say, it will happen soon.

Ask yourself this: If these people really care about Nigeria as they claim to, why haven't they bothered to help us since 1960? This is a logical question.
I believe all these ado about corruption will be eliminated if we had a no-nonsense , honest  president.

I still believe they are some Nigerians who are very abled to rid this nation of corruption. Ribadu and El Rufai are no saints, but the zeal at which they carried out their functions, is what I also look for. Assuming we had someone of their type not as IG but as a president (not answerable to anyone) but at the helm of power to issue orders, kai, many Nigerians will go into exile. They are no saints because for the most part, they acted on the script of Obasanjo. That's why I am saying, get an honest person into a position that he/she isn't going to be answerable to anyone and this thing of corruption will be over. What is the position: President!

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