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Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by pendo89(f): 6:09am On Feb 01, 2012 |
That's my question because am African. We know everything happening in the US and Canada,Europe,Asia subcontinent,,Australasia,Pagopago ,including the Space I strongly believe some people here are FBI agents cz of the amount of info they carry concerning western politics! its amazing. But mention any event in Africa,South ,East,Central and we go ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I believe Africa is becoming better by the day, its no wonder theres's a scramble for it. Many Africans can find good jobs in some other African countries but prejudice is killing us.We'd rather suffer in the west and cry foul later. The only Africa we know is the CNN one .Just like the west yet it is our motherland!! Why for instance do we care to know more about US opportunities than say Togo?? ![]() Some comments people make about other african nations are erroneous cz we don't know their colour or language. The West/Asia is running to Africa for investment opportunities, but instead of us seizing the moment we are busy queing for escape from motherland visas. Before you stone me, I understand the importance of knowing what is taking place elsewhere but not at the expense of our dear continent. I wish there were other African nationalities here to update us on positive developments in their countries instead of us posting negative stories when they break. Love Africa.We are no longer the dark continent. Even places that never had electricity now use solar! we can see! Signed, ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by Acidosis(m): 6:25am On Feb 01, 2012 |
Take for instance a lot of Africans dont know that the 4th most expensive city to live-in in the world is Libreville. Libreville is in Gabon. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by pendo89(f): 6:39am On Feb 01, 2012 |
Not only that,we are only interested in events happening in already developed nations when we should be focusing on emerging markets esp in Africa. Africa is treasure land but we always wait to be 'discovered'. by the yeah who else but the chinese. And trust me they are occupying Africa like no mans' biz. I always laugh when I see less qualified foreigners occupying big seats in some companies as skilled locals apply for visas day in and out, We believe in prospering abroad and never Africa. With all the gold mines,oil,minerals,gas, etc etc ,why should we go play cab driver with our Masters? The west want pieces of Africa and are making a mad rush to tap our resources from North to South ,East and West. But Africans believe they cannot breakthrough.We lost hope. We are a people without Identity. Shame. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by Arosa(m): 4:21pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
If we start traveling there now, the locals would say Nigerians are taking our everything away. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by kodewrita(m): 4:32pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
Likelihood of flight ticket purchase to Lisbon, Portugal= 23% Likelihood of flight ticket purchase to Zambia/Uganda/Mali = 1.4% |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by pendo89(f): 4:41pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
Are we therefore our own enemies of progress?? Making it difficult for other Africans to prosper or are we just losers not fighters? Why cant Africans think and develop themselves? Is it possible to do without western influence at all?? I have both Yes and No answers. Why are we not taking advantage of Trade blocs? Cz we don't even know they exist ! |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by morpheus24: 6:01pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
pendo89: There is a huge deficit in continental awarness that stems from a lack of incorporating continental subject matters into educational curriculums to develop knowledge of Africans in general which would strengthen ties amongst the populous. Emphasis continues to be put on our differences rather than what we have in common. This fact, coupled with an ongoing country by country struggle of national identity hinders regional and continental integration. This is where I believe the problem lies. A solution would be to revamp the current educational curriculums to incorporate subject matters that deal with general continental and regional issues from the primary up to tertiary levels of education and fostering exchange programs that move students through different countries and learning experiences. This is in line with how globally connected the world and indeed Africa is moving towards. pendo89: It is difficult to start from a fresh template of political or economic thought processes when most of your systems and structures have been borrowed or indoctrinated into 1st and 2nd world global systems that have not really taken into account the dynamism of African socio-political issues. We can develop ourselves and indeed we are striving to do so. What we struggle with is the methodology to adopt that will indeed fit in with our social values , structures and complexities. Many continue to advocate a complete diassociation from western institutions, western values and western economic models. If we are to follow this path then what alternate models do we build our economic systems on and how do we attempt to integrate these new found models into global structures as it is near impossible to exist without some sort of cooperation with the rest of the planet. We cannot be isolationist in the long term as this will undoubtedlly prove unsustainable. There are several regional trade blocs that are currently fine tuning custom unions and tarrif free movements of goods and services which are mainly eas Africa's COMESA and southern Afirca's SADC, little can be said about ECOWAS for now. These economic integration policies are sure to boost regional trade and inter Africa trade as well. The stumbling block lies with governments strugglling with natinoal interets over a cohesive regional strucutre that is advantageious to all within that bloc. Its happending but its not happening fast enough. The other school of thought hopes to build on already existing systems borrowed from western societies in terms of laissze affair private owned Capitalist models that feel that government is incapabel of driving efficiency in business and the emrging state capitalit model dominant in the Eastern part of the world that is hybrid of socialist and communist ideologies fused with capital controlled by the state. the idea is to modify these philosophies to fit African contexts. The new information and semantic age we are evolving into requires new thought processes against the old rhetoric of seperate and equalize. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by pendo89(f): 7:27pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
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Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:12pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
I know about world politics but I specialize in Africa especially Nigeria. I know about African history, politics, and economics. I am Nigerian and I talk to Ethiopians about Ethiopian history and they are surprised. I am quite the opposite. I want to live in an African country and do business with other African countries. We also buy and spend in foreign countries instead of our own. We have an inferiority complex and it is hurting our economy. Thisi s why i created a site that every Nigerian can do even in the Diaspora to spur economic development in Africa. www.nigerianedp.com "To control a people, you must first control what they think about themselves and how they regard their history and culture. And when your conqueror makes you ashamed of your culture and your history, he needs no prison walls and no chains to hold you." Dr. John Henrik Clarke The media and Eurocenrtric history makes you hate Africa and makes Africans hate being African. So we speak European langaugaes and wear European clothes. But I learned my true history and our great history and I learned that we did great things This empowered me to be the man I am now. I am trying to learn KiSwahili and Yoruba. I want to learn more African languages. 1 Like |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:15pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
pendo89:When banks don't give loans to you because all of the money is in foreign banks due to our government then those business people in Europe and America use the looted money to investi n Africa and they get returns back. It is a damn shame ![]() Arosa:I agree, we love Europeans more than our selves. We need to unite as one and do business with each other. It is a shame how Africans don't learn from our histopry. Divide and conquer will destroy us again if we don't unite. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:21pm On Feb 01, 2012 |
morpheus24:Very true we need our own homegrown system like Jacob Zuma said. THis system will be by Africans for our culture. I think a mix of capitalism with state influence to boosting production will help. This system can make sure that we don't import everything and start supporting our own companies. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by isalegan2: 12:54am On Feb 02, 2012 |
igbo2011: Igbo2011, You're certainly an admirable person. What do you think of the overwhelming propaganda targeting the break-up of our country? It seems the USA and Western countries are very committed to that now. I even heard Pat Buchanan on the current affairs show McLaughlin Group make the imminent breakup of Nigeria his prediction, on this weekend's episode. I think we're screwed. You know our so-called leaders won't know when the rug is being pulled from under them. And you have many of the disaffected unpatriotic fools, even on this very site, jubilating over the prospect of the USA dropping drones on their countrymen. I mean, it is really shocking to me. Of course these will be the same people who will be crying up and down when their cousins and uncles have been Abu Ghraib'ed. We hope it doesn't get that bad. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 1:13am On Feb 02, 2012 |
@isala_gan2 Nigeria is set to be a top 10 country by 2040. There was a study by citybank and they said nigeria will be number 6 by 2040. The west doesn't want a black nation as top 10 they want white supremacy. So they will do what they can to disunite nigeria. They want what happened in sudan to happened to nigeria. They want the chinese out. But chinas influence is growing if you look at what they just built for the AU but the thing is that china shouldn't be trusted as well. They have funded rebel groups and bad dictators before but they are better than the west. They haven't overthrown or killed any african leaders. China doesn't mind bringing africa up along with standrd of living but the west wants to keep africa down because if raw material extraction becomes too expensive then they are out of luck. But the thing is the america and britain teamed up with france to keep africa down. I am afraid that china and the west MAY team up and that could lead to a genocide of africans. China has done bad things to tibet and the british did a ge nocide by dehumanizing the native americans. They are already dehumanizing us saying we have no history and are savages. They only portry us badly sso when they do thei evils then it will be justified. We need to rust each other africans need to invest in africa we should do busuness with each other. Help each other get up. If all of africa u ited like gaddaffi wanted we would be a top 10 economy. But a nigerian break up would be bad then it is easier to control. America is abou to attac0k iran. They can do the same to nigeria. As soon as goodluvk does his own thinng then we can be attacked in the name of humanitarian intervention. Remember the west has no permamnent friends but permanent interests. They will turn on you very fast. South america is united. We need to unoite under kiswahili so we can face oiur common enemy. South america used to be like africa but they have no more puppets. Chavez morales and correa said no to imperialism. The only anti imperiaist we have is mugabe. We also have. A abd military we cannot defend ourselves but south america can |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by pendo89(f): 7:03am On Feb 02, 2012 |
igbo2011: |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 7:14am On Feb 02, 2012 |
Tribes tribes are progress killer no. one. We want our our tribe to rule,to prosper to own wealth.Its got nothing to do with personal developments but tribal advancements.The day wel start thinking beyond tribes is the day we can confidently talk about a united Africa. KiSwahili needs to just be spoken all over Africa. As long as it is an African language I don't care. We need to have it as our first language then we can speak our tribal language then English and others. The language will help us communicate with each other and we have more things in common. The African Union needs to unite as one to one country then we need to redo the entire map of Africa into tribal lands where everyone will agree. We can no longer fight over resources because at the end of the day we don't benefit from them. The country will have no trade tarriffs so we can do more intraafrican trade. I also think religion is holding us back. I made a thread about that: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-856194.0.html Do you think that Muslim nigerians see white people differently than Christian Nigerians? The white image of Jesus almost makes Christians worship. Whites to some sort. Instead of solving our problems we pray. How long have we been praying for? If you are goingg to pray fine but also do actions. The occupy Nigeria movement was a great start. We need to finish up. 1 Like |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by justwise(m): 8:15am On Feb 02, 2012 |
isale_gan2: Do you know why many people are not remotely interested in African history? Because people like you are all out for peddle baseless and unfounded conspiracy theories just to satisfy your deluded mind. The real African history will remain hidden and untold as long as individuals like you keep spreading rumours and blaming everybody else apart ourselves for our problems in Africa. People are sick and tired of reading and listening from bunch of hypocrites pretending to know African history but actually all they do is expose their limited knowledge of everything Africa apart from lies and conspiracy theories. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by paniki(m): 8:22am On Feb 02, 2012 |
igbo2011 is the paranoid version of cap28 |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by justwise(m): 8:33am On Feb 02, 2012 |
paniki: Which is a big shame really. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by pendo89(f): 8:49am On Feb 02, 2012 |
Justwise if you come across anything paranoid just counter it and educate us. All I know about Nigeria is based on what I read here because it comes from the source. We can't build on anything paranoid. I know Africans love putting blame on the west. But if the so called west exploit us its cz we allowed them to. Our governing systems are weak so why blame the west when we are the architects of our disaster. ![]() |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by justwise(m): 9:11am On Feb 02, 2012 |
pendo89: You know what? You just made my years not days by those two lines, you earned my respect. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by isalegan2: 4:39pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
justwise: Am I supposed to give a shiit what a lowlife scumbag arse-hole like your ignorant self thinks of me. I never even noticed you on this site before. I guess you think you know me. Sorry, dude. I'm not remotely interested in you or your ramblings. BTW, you're now a celebrity, since I just quoted you. lol. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by justwise(m): 4:50pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
isale_gan2: That bolded section actually got me depressed now. How can a muppet like you be taken seriously, having an argument with complete fool like you can only be a waste of time. Taking a dog for a walk is will be more rewarding experience. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 7:00pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
@justwide and @paniki Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtZcjt28Oxg This shows how the west controlled much of south America before but now they are not colonizedd and they control theirselves. They have great leaders who stood up. All we have is Mugabe. Go to his site: http://johnpilger.com/ Listen to people like Naomi Klein or Keith Harmon Snow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg6kPY7QC3M These are some of my sources. CNN, Al Jazeera, BBC, Fox News are all biased. Watch Russia Today for better news. Listen for the truth. I don't blame the west for everything, we need to revolt against neocolonialism. That is what Mugabe is trying to do but he got sanctioned. But the minute that Nigeria goes against the west America will attack in the name of humanitarian crisis. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 7:05pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
pendo89:They are the ones who input dicatators like Mubuto, Comapre, or Outtara and back them up with weapons and troops. Look at what happened to Ivory Coast. Unless all Africans around Africa do this and do an African spring then it will keep on happening. I also think religion and our inferiority complex is playing a role in our demise of Africa. We buy everything foreign and don't produice anything. We rather buy gucci or dolce and gabana instead of wearingAfrican clothes. We go outside of Africa for tourism instead of going within Africa. Religion makes us wait for sky daddy to save us instead of saving ourselves. This is why I made the site: www.nigerianedp.com This will help the country if people follow the directions. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by justwise(m): 7:16pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
igbo2011: Russia Today is your source of unbiased news? igbo2011 do yourself a favour and see your doctor, its important you do that. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 7:18pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
justwise:What is your source? |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by morpheus24: 7:46pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
igbo2011:Igbo2011. most of us are aware of the west's self interests regarding Africa. This is undeniable. However, in my humble opinion, the revolution you advocate in Africa will not come about as a result of agitating passions and prejudices nor will solutions come from driving western powers out of Africa. I am still wondering how that is going to be achieved? Can you enlighten me? Africa's transformation will be born out of structural changes that will subject the western powers to their own self created, self promoting economic devices. When has a revolution ever eliminated the existence of "elite" masters vs "impoverished' citizenry. All it does is shake up a few feathers, a little redistribution of wealth or power is compromised by those who possess it, only for new systems to be devised on how to take this back under the same noses of the revolutionaries. Its an inefficient process that sustains itself only in the short term as things gradually return to status quo. let me be clear in saying that I understand the role of revolutions in antagonizing corrupt authority, however I find it over simplistic and down right archaic in truly transforming the lives of Africans due to is manipulative tendencies and propaganda driven rhetoric. You can create lasting change by beating your "opponent" at his own game. This requires great patience, great intellect and a burgeoning dissemination of relevant and transformative information sharing process. China is a great example of this fact. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by Nobody: 11:13pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
Because we are too lazy ro pick up a damn book and we hate one another. Finito |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:32pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
@morpheus24 With leaders who serve the people will come opportunities for people to do great things. If all theAfrican corrupt leaders put their looted money into African banks then this can lead to economic growth because busnesses can grow due to loans. Here are the things that we need: 1. Power: With power we will be able to start to manufacture products and make our own products instead of importing everything, 2. Roads: with a good road network then trasnporting things will be better. Also with all these death trap roads, morel ives will be saved. 3. Hospitals: Our hospitals aren't the best. Once we have great hospitals this can be a great industry. many nigerians go abroad for treatment when we should be treated in Nigeria 4. Schools: Our schools must teach everyon their true GREAt history and how much we did for this world. We must teach religion and ethnic tolerance and teach the kids how much bad things the Europeans have done and how we shouldn't trust foreignors. We should trust ourselvse more. Tis inferiority complex is hurting Nigeria's economy. if nobody will by Nigerian goods then Nigerians won't open up Nigerian businesses. All this importing is very bad, we should make our own things. 5. Military: We need a great military that puts a lot of money into making great weapons and planes to defend ourselves or Africa in general. Those are in no order but with all of that Nigeria will be a haven. Too many foreign investors are coming to Africa for business, Africans need to invest in each other and buy each other's products. We need to go to tourism within Africa!! 1 Like |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:35pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
The Chinese baned religion this is why 90% of Chinese are athiets. If more nigerians were like this then this may help us. but the thing with that is that Chinese don;t value human life anymore. They rather get money then help a fellow human they have bad human rights. look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFjdMKJVkzQ&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dchinese%2Bbaby%2Bgirl%26oq%3D%26aq%3D%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3D%26gs_upl%3D |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by Nobody: 11:37pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
igbo2011: Sounds like utopia. As idealist as it may sound, the biggest problem we have in Africa is a complete lack of selflessness. |
Re: Why are Africans ignorant abt Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:40pm On Feb 02, 2012 |
naijababe:Very true, we have become to Europeanized. We need to start to care about each other once again. Also trust each other and portray each other greatly in the media. This is what nollywood is diong and this is great. |
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