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Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Nobody: 5:38am On Feb 13, 2012 |
In the past fifty years Africa, just like other parts of the world has experienced many social and political upheavals of earth-shaking magnitude. Of all the wars that have happened within this period both in Africa and elsewhere none has had so much devastating and of a far-reaching effect in terms of human death tolls and collateral property damage like the Biafra War. Yet in spite of this fact it is about the least remembered and talked of wars of recent history. Why? |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Nobody: 5:50am On Feb 13, 2012 |
chukwuawka: |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Nobody: 5:55am On Feb 13, 2012 |
THERE is a "Kingdom of Biafra" on some old maps which were made by early white explorers of the west coast of Africa. Nobody is now sure what that kingdom was, what its laws and arts and tools were like. No tales survive of the kings and queens. As for the "Republic of Biafra" we know a great deal. It was a nation with more citizens than Ireland and Norway combined. It proclaimed itself an independent republic on May 30, 1967. On January 17 of 1970, it surrendered unconditionally to Nigeria, the nation from which it had tried to secede. It had few friends in this world, and among its active enemies were Russia and Great Britain. Its enemies were pleased to call it a "tribe." |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Nobody: 5:58am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Biafra: A People Betrayed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Kurt Vonnegut From "Wampeters, Foma and Granfalloons", 1979 The Biafrans were mainly Christians and they spoke English melodiously, and their economy was this one: small-town free enterprise. The worthless Biafran currency was gravely honored to the end. The tune of Biafra's national anthem was Finlandia, by Jan Sibelius. The equatorial Biafrans admired the arctic Finns because the Finns won and kept their freedom in spite of ghastly odds. Biafra lost its freedom, of course, and I was in the middle of it as all its fronts were collapsing. I flew in from Gabon on the night of January 3, with bags of corn, beans, and powdered milk, aboard a blacked out DC6 chartered by Caritas, the Roman Catholic relief organization. I flew out six nights later on an empty DC4 chartered by the French Red Cross. It was the last plane to leave Biafra that was not fired upon. While in Biafra, I saw a play which expressed the spiritual condition of the Biafrans at the end. It was set in ancient times, in the home of a medicine man. The moon had not been seen for many months, and the crops had failed. There was nothing to eat anymore. A sacrifice was made to a goddess of fertility, and the sacrifice was refused. The goddess gave the reason: The people were not sufficiently unselfish and brave. Before the drama began, the national anthem was played on an ancient marimba. It seems likely that similar marimbas were heard in the court of the Kingdom of Biafra. The black man who played the marimba was naked to the waist. He squatted on the stage. He was a composer. He also held a doctor's degree from the London School of Economics. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Nobody: 6:01am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Word according to a white man who witness it all, |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by GAR3TH(m): 6:03am On Feb 13, 2012 |
obuekwe: Because. . . . 1 - Its wasn't the most nor was it near as devastating and far-reaching effect in terms of human death tolls and collateral property damage as other wars in the last 50 years. There were more important and meaningful wars that were fought in the same time period. 2 - After 40 years people have moved on, unfortunately there are still a few chess beaters out there. 3 - The war was basically a joke, Both side were at fault and in the end you got a pointless war. Biafra could had easily got a UN sponsored referendum back in 1967, they could have got a UN sponsored referendum through out those 40 years and they could get a UN sponsored referendum today. So why didn't they? Mid west region got a referendum as did many other countries/places, so why not biafra? why war? 4 - Biafra was an Igbo movement and not an eastern region nor a southern movement, this is why you ONLY see some igbos screaming biafra and NOT Ijaws, ibibo, Efik or edos. The igbo movement that was biafra started claiming other people's land who didn't even want to be part of biafra, Hence why the war started. Like point number 3, if biafra was serious, they should have got a referendum first, like many other places in that time period got., instead of starting a war and claiming land. In summary, it was a pointless war hence why no one talks about it. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by BlackPikiN(m): 6:21am On Feb 13, 2012 |
GAR3TH: I hate reading this! In only one sentence, You are a damned liar! 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by GAR3TH(m): 6:27am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Like I said if biafra was serious they would have called for a referendum like many other places did and have done over the past 42 years. Did Ijaws, Ibibos, Efik, edo etc say they wanted to be in biafra? Today Do you see those groups asking for biafra, holding meetings and protest in the name of biafra, are those groups even part of MASSOB, Like I said and as everyone knows Biafra is an Igbo thing, You cant really deny that. None of those group said they wanted to be in biafra but yet Biafra claimed those land. Like the White kids in my global history class back in High School said, why wasn't there a referendum held if biafra was serious. To see what groups wanted to leave nigeria or be part of biafra, Instead biafra just did what the british did and claimed land with out the people's consent. The war was basically a big joke, If there was a UN sponsored referendum, Biafra might even be here today. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Valon4ego(m): 6:40am On Feb 13, 2012 |
GAR3TH:rubish talk! Wonder where you derive your theory from |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by GAR3TH(m): 6:44am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Valon4ego: What theory, You can look up any NON-BIAS History book @thread, I'm not going to reply following this post because I know I'm going to get swarmed by the pro briafra community just like the other threads. They are entitled to their views and opinions and they are free to reply, but I'm not going to tolerate any sort of negative responses. I wont respond if I see anything negativity. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 7:19am On Feb 13, 2012 |
THERE is a "Kingdom of Biafra" on some old maps which were made by early white explorers of the west coast of Africa. Nobody is now sure what that kingdom was, what its laws and arts and tools were like. No tales survive of the kings and queens. . . . .Kingdom of Biafra ![]() ![]() |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 7:38am On Feb 13, 2012 |
. . .wooo, hold on, who is the fabricator that has been dreaming up a new glorious past and composing lies to contradict and dribble away from the sordid performance and politics of Biafra? what the heck!! Really, Africa cannot survive without Biafra. . . you are the savior of the continent? How about save yourself from boko haram first before saving Africa! Take that technology to the dude in Imo ihenoffe or whats his name and tell him to start manufacture ogbunike instead of assemblying buses. You dont need bus, you need ogbunnike to counter terrorize boko. What da ![]() |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by zumbigbo(m): 10:59am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Welsh mercenary Williams found his Biafran troops to be completely different from those who he commanded in Katanga. "I've seen a lot of Africans at war" he was quoted as saying. "But there's nobody to touch these people. Give me 10,000 Biafrans for six months, and we'll build an army that would be invincible on this continent. I've seen men die in this war who would have won the Victoria Cross in another context".[2] Williams was assigned one hundred Biafran commandos in early 1968, and managed to keep two battalions of black mercenaries from Chad serving with the Federal Army at bay for twelve weeks using only the crudest of weapons. Chad = Boko Haram outpost No.1 |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 11:22am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Williams found his Biafran troops to be completely different from those who he commanded in Katanga. Katanga, where is that and which war? ![]() |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by houvest: 11:33am On Feb 13, 2012 |
chukwuawka: I know that At the World Igbo Congress(WIC) of 2009 or 2008, such an economic plan was mapped out for the SE states. I do noy know how far they went to pursue its implementation. But it is the Biafra of the mind that Ikemba was talking about. If we cannot use the Biafra of the mind to develop the SE to an enviable level how can we demonstrate a future Biafra of territory? Thanks for your ideas. Please keep more coming. Different creative and constructive ideas are welcome for the survival and greatness of our people. We would analyse and synthesize all these and choose what is best for us. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by 9jaIhail(m): 11:39am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Onlytruth: Eze only truth your point is noted but i am impressed with the way our beloved brother chukwuawka is analyzing history and advices.Eze onlytruth may you live long |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by 9jaIhail(m): 11:42am On Feb 13, 2012 |
houvest: Thank God that you also find this analyzes sensible and a creative ideas that we can borrow from.bro keep the good job going. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by chukwuawka(m): 1:06pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Land of the rising sun, we love and cherish, Beloved homeland of our brave heroes; We must defend our lives or we shall perish, We shall protect our hearts from all our foes; But if the price is death for all we hold dear, Then let us die without a shred of fear. Hail to Biafra, consecrated nation, Oh fatherland, this be our solemn pledge: Defending thee shall be a dedication, Spilling our blood we’ll count a privilege; The waving standard which emboldens the free Shall always be our flag of liberty. We shall emerge triumphant from this ordeal, And through the crucible unscathed we’ll pass; When we are poised the wounds of battle to heal, We shall remember those who died in mass; Then shall our trumpets peal the glorious song Of victory we scored o’er might and wrong. Oh God, protect us from the hidden pitfall, Guide all our movements lest we go astray; Give us the strength to heed the humanist call: ‘To give and not to count the cost" each day; Bless those who rule to serve with resoluteness, To make this clime a land of righteousness |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by chukwuawka(m): 1:08pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
BIAFRAN NATIONAL ANTHEM, Land of the rising sun, we love and cherish, Beloved homeland of our brave heroes; We must defend our lives or we shall perish, We shall protect our hearts from all our foes; But if the price is death for all we hold dear, Then let us die without a shred of fear. Hail to Biafra, consecrated nation, Oh fatherland, this be our solemn pledge: Defending thee shall be a dedication, Spilling our blood we’ll count a privilege; The waving standard which emboldens the free Shall always be our flag of liberty. We shall emerge triumphant from this ordeal, And through the crucible unscathed we’ll pass; When we are poised the wounds of battle to heal, We shall remember those who died in mass; Then shall our trumpets peal the glorious song Of victory we scored o’er might and wrong. Oh God, protect us from the hidden pitfall, Guide all our movements lest we go astray; Give us the strength to heed the humanist call: ‘To give and not to count the cost" each day; Bless those who rule to serve with resoluteness, To make this clime a land of righteousness |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by chukwuawka(m): 1:18pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Ndigbo, apart from their demographic weight are exceptionally resourceful as evidenced by their outstanding achievements in various fields of human endeavour both at home and abroad. Now is the time to put these impressive attributes to work and make the desired political impact at the national level, where team work is crucial for our collective success. Hence Ohanaeze Ndigbo, is putting great emphasis on uniting our people and guiding them towards a common political and economic agenda. The attainment of South-East presidency demands all hands on deck as it will not be handed over to Ndigbo on a platter of gold |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by chukwuawka(m): 1:18pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
The increasing display of unity by South East Governors and other well-meaning Igbo sons and daughters in pursuit of a common political and economic agenda is a welcome step in this direction. The virtually unanimous Igbo support for President Jonathan at the elections of last April is an instructive evidence that our people are coming seriously together and can use their collective demographic weight to influence national affairs significantly. This is a healthy departure from the hitherto individualistic, rapacious and opportunistic approach prevalent amongst those struggling for political office in total disregard for collective legitimate Igbo interest at the national level. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by PROUDIGBO(m): 3:33pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
houvest: ^^^The economic intergration and centralized management of the South East economy is what i strongly believe in and i mentioned something similar when responding on a thread last year about a project going on in Imo State: I feel that until we find some way to coordinate our individual private efforts at developing the south east, the numerous projects scattered all over the place would not make much of an impact. As a people, we need to see the bigger picture of pooling our resources together for the good of Ndigbo as a whole, and not just be concerned with sighting every and any project in our 'backyard' just to say that my village has this and that. Areas with comparative advantage with regards to different types of projects should be explored and the projects sited there as far as the place in question is in the south east. I hope we can soon move to the point of actually doing something, instead of talking about solutions all the time. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by houvest: 11:29pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
PROUD-IGBO: Thanks. Well people must continue talking untill thec ideas are actualised. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Onlytruth(m): 11:42pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
9ja_I_hail: My brother, we all want what is best for Igboland. We have all been talking here, and we should continue talking, BUT that is all we've been doing in all the forums online. We can still talk, but let us talk things that would lead to results on the ground, not just reharshing things we already know about ourselves. What about things we don't know about ourselves that may undermine all these dreams? My main concern at this stage is that we should ask ourselves some honest questions; example, why are UNARMED MASSOB members being gunned down in Igboland without any consequences? Our people and politicians are going about their business as if our sons are not being killed unlawfully in our own land. This may seem little but if you think more carefully, you will see that it indicates something very debilitating and dangerous for Ndigbo. It indicates that we may have lost the courage that is necessary to fight for our survival as a people. So, my concern is that our people today are markedly different from our people described by Williams below: zumbigbo: The Biafrans that Williams describe is the only type that can get us what we want, whether inside Nigeria or in a Biafran nation. Maybe these types still exist, but the MASSOB type is damaging their psyche by allowing themselves to be killed carelessly in Igboland. So, all the talks are good, but I stand with this my brother here: PROUD-IGBO: Here I stand! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Onlytruth(m): 11:48pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Ojukwu's burial is around the corner, and MASSOB is gearing up to give him his final honor and respect. I won't be suprised if Nigerian security operatives choose this time again to shoot a few more MASSOB members, and our leaders will keep quiet again as usual. I wonder whether our leaders understand the psychological impacts of these MASSOB member killings in Igboland on our youths. Soon our youths will start to think like cowards. I will say it again, if MASSOB cannot protect its members and keep the Nigerian security at bay, it should disband immediately and allow another group take over the agitation for Biafra. Everybody should warn his ward to stay away from MASSOB until they fix this nonsense of allowing their members to be killed without repercusions. Nnunu isi akagh aka adighi aga ogu otukpokpo - a bird with a weak skull must never engage the woodpecker in a fight. ![]() MASSOB should shape up or ship out! hoha. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 3:32am On Feb 14, 2012 |
Welsh mercenary Here is info on Taffy Williams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taffy_Williams. You are quoting a man who lost two wars back to back. . . Katanga and Biafra. It does not matter how many men you provide Taffy, this was a looser! His job is to earn money, not to die for you, even though your own men are dying around him. Your Biafran men are more credible and trustworthy than this Williams you quoted. He was part of Apartheid South Africa, why didn't he build an invincible army in South Africa? Read his profile and notice the lie about standing upright in a open jeep and driven round under the barrage of firepower from Federal Troops to prove his body's immunity to bullets. Why is wikipage devoted to telling the story and bravery of a mercenary but silent on Biafran bravery? Where is the story of your brave men riding around in open jeep and brushing off bullets? |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Onlytruth(m): 3:46am On Feb 14, 2012 |
Dudu_Negro: Mr man which of the statements about Biafran bravery are you disputing? Are you disputing that mere 100 Biafran commandos were able to stand their grounds against two batallions of "gwodo gwodo" (Chadian) Nigerians? This is another quote saying exactly the same thing: [b]At this point he had 1000 soldiers under his command which [size=14pt]threw themselves head first [/size]against two Federal Battalions which had crossed the Imo River Bridge with Soviet advisers. For three days their light machine guns and repeater rifles did not stop. [/b]When Williams returned to Aba for additional ammunition to continue the fight, he was told that there was simply none to be had. That was the mettle of the Biafrans, who were only slowed down by poor supply of weapons. I am very proud of my fathers. ![]() ![]() I'm only worrying about Igbo youths of today. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 5:16am On Feb 14, 2012 |
So you admit then that this looser that was paid to command Biafran army was less skilled in warfare than the people he led to their death while he himself escaped with his life? If he was that immuned to bullets why did he run when he was cornered? |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Onlytruth(m): 5:25am On Feb 14, 2012 |
Dudu_Negro: The man was a MECENARY. He was paid to fight. The war was not his, so why MUST he die when the war was already lost? You are mixing issues again trying to obsfucate the main point which is that Biafrans were very brave in the war. The man's bravery was never under discourse here, but I would guess that a man who LED mere 100 men against two batallions must be a very brave man. ![]() Your attempts to destroy his "legacy" is invidious. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 6:29am On Feb 14, 2012 |
what legacy is that, loosing two wars back to back? or fleeing from Katanga to Biafra and then fleeing Biafra back to South Africa? Loosers and AWOLs are not qualified to tell us about bravery, their words land narrative of war lack credibility. |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by Onlytruth(m): 6:55am On Feb 14, 2012 |
Dudu_Negro: So, you honestly expect a mecenary to win YOUR war for you? lol Keep hoping! The man's point is well taken. Everything else is irrelevant. ![]() |
Re: Biafra And Scientific Development by DuduNegro: 7:14am On Feb 14, 2012 |
So, you honestly expect a mecenary to win YOUR war for you? lol . . . A man of integrity does not earn a living by becoming soldier of fortune. If his spirit is driven purely for the profits and spoils of war, then his accounts of that war is equally driven by ambitions for earning an illicit living. In absence of supporting corroborations submitted by men of integrity, all his narratives must be thoroughly audited and taken through a process of credibility test. Williams's account of the Katanga and Biafran fronts, despite its endearing sentiment, lack credibility. 1 Like |
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