nitrogen:


Nawa o, someone cannot make comments about Bruno on this thread without getting lashed. The assessment was right, and I also talked about other players.

Your Assessment is right, ain't surprised he called you an Hater though. Ole was once anointed on this Board, we see how it's ending now.

Bruno barely stays in the centre to receive pass from McFred or any other combo. He's either clogging the Left wing or right wing.

I checked the Imaged shared by Illimitable, Bruno is missing in it..... e get why.

elampiro:


1/1000

Of course, giving Debuts to Morata, Nacho, Sarabia, Fabinho, Diego Llorente, Loftus-Cheek, Solanke, cannot count.

Balotelli(19), Mikel Obi(19), Varane(18), Zouma(19), etc didn’t thrive under Jose, they wilted.

Some of you just talk rubbish offered to you by SkySports pundits without doing your own research.

CapitalCee:


You forgot to mention that Man city were champions league semi finalists, while united crash out at the group stage

Rooney was finished at that time, Aguero was the best striker in the league.

Lol. Rashford just broke out from the feeders team, with no season worth of football yet, Sterling was already involved in a tense title race 2 seasons before and was a £50m marquee signing.

Silva was a world class Midfielder and a regular starting XI in La roja, whime Mata was a bench warmer, they were never in the same level.

Lol Schnerderlein that flopped at even everton that Tom davies was benching him, you are comparing with Fernandinho? One of the best DM EPL has seen.
Scheistwiger was finished.
Only DDG was ok

CL is a knockout competition where anything can happen

Lyon 2 seasons ago finished Midtable in France yet made the CL semi.

Rashford was already a breakout star just like Sterling. If Rashford was put on the market he would command similar amount to Sterling. Martial even did despite coming from France without the English player tax

Fernandinho was improved under Pep, only that Mourinho failed to do the same to Schneiderlin

Yaya was as finished as Schweinsteiger. Post City, Yaya landed in Olympiakos where he was sacked in less than a season

Mata was same level with Silva until he ran into Jose Mourinho. We can compare their epl stats

raumdeuter:


CL is a knockout competition where anything can happen

Lyon 2 seasons ago finished Midtable in France yet made the CL semi.

Rashford was already a breakout star just like Sterling. If Rashford was put on the market he would command similar amount to Sterling. Martial even did despite coming from France without the English player tax

Fernandinho was improved under Pep, only that Mourinho failed to do the same to Schneiderlin

Yaya was as finished as Schweinsteiger. Post City, Yaya landed in Olympiakos where he was sacked in less than a season

Mata was same level with Silva until he ran into Jose Mourinho. We can compare their epl stats

Fernandinho was improved under Pep? The same Fernandinho that was already a household name in Brazil, played every game in 2014 World Cup including the 7-1 decimation by Germany needed Pep to improve.

Meanwhile, the world class Schneiderlin that Mourinho couldn’t develop wasn’t even considered good enough to play a minute throughout Euro 2016(before Mourinho arrived at United).

Revisionism is a cancer on this forum.

melodyogonna:
I no understand why we have to be starting Ronaldo every match sha, he is 36, can't he be rested, I mean, he should be rested most of the time.

He's 36 or because no be your fav.

Illimitable:


Fernandinho was improved under Pep? The same Fernandinho that was already a household name in Brazil, played every game in 2014 World Cup including the 7-1 decimation by Germany needed Pep to improve.

Meanwhile, the world class Schneiderlin that Mourinho couldn’t develop wasn’t even considered good enough to play a minute throughout Euro 2016(before Mourinho arrived at United).

Revisionism is a cancer on this forum.

Dante and David Luiz were also part of the 7-1 team demolition plus Fred plus Bernard plus Hulk plus Luis Gustavo how many of these are top class? Being part of that 7-1 should even be a negative

Schneiderlin was a big money signing that was coveted by top epl clubs

Shaw was a big money signing for a left back

Herrera left Man utd to PSG

That was a solid team at par with City which Mourinho failed to improve unlike Pep

You see Sterling scoring 20 goals the same Sterling that people used to laugh at pre Pep. Even till date many people can't believe Pep made Sterling look like a semi productive player

raumdeuter:


Dante and David Luiz were also part of the 7-1 team demolition plus Fred plus Bernard plus Hulk plus Luis Gustavo how many of these are top class?

Schneiderlin was a big money signing that was coveted by top epl clubs

Shaw was a big money signing for a left back

Herrera left Man utd to PSG

That was a solid team at par with City which Mourinho failed to improve unlike Pep

You see Sterling scoring 20 goals the same Sterling that people used to laugh at pre Pep. Even till date many people can't believe Pep made Sterling look like a semi productive player

Schneiderlin was no big money signing. His transfer was £25m in 2015.

Rio was £30m in 2002. Rooney was £30m in 2004. How the fück is £22m a big money signing in 2015?

Let’s even admit for a second that Mourinho ruined Schneiderlin, how come no top 6 club picked him up after he left United at only 27 years of age?

Why is he now playing for Nice? Even before Jose’s arrival, Deschamps didn’t consider him elite enough to give him a minute of football throughout Euro 2016 tournament.

That’s your big money signing coveted by most EPL clubs. You can only convince yourself that United and City were at par as at the summer of 2016.

They were at par but United never finished once above them in the 3 year period between Fergie’s retirement and Mourinho’s arrival.

Similar strength my ašs!

raumdeuter:

Shaw was a big money signing for a left back

Shaw was 18, got injured under LVG. It took him almost 3 seasons to recover from his injuries and he’s only had a decent season since.

raumdeuter:

Herrera left Man utd to PSG

Mourinho’s most trusted soldier at United.

raumdeuter:

That was a solid team at par with City which Mourinho failed to improve unlike Pep

If they were at par with City, how come United never finished above them between 2013 and 2016?

raumdeuter:

You see Sterling scoring 20 goals the same Sterling that people used to laugh at pre Pep. Even till date many people can't believe Pep made Sterling look like a semi productive player

Sterling’s improvement is the natural progression of a young player to a mature player. Are we talking about the record breaking Raheem that City paid £50m for in 2015?

Soon enough, you would say it was Pep that spiritually improved Danny Ings that used to be a low scoring player to a highly productive player. Pep can solve every problem in the world except winning CL trophy without Messi.

patrickmuf:
Ghostominay...Una sabi give people name for here...Na so I shout Ghostominay on Saturday come dey laugh alone...

Eph12, you won't come and defend McTom?

lol I think the last thing I said to you yesterday, which you didn't read as usual, is that they're supposed to play a certain way but actually play another way, which is stupid. If this is defending to you, no vex.

Illimitable:


Schneiderlin was no big money signing. His transfer was £25m in 2015.

Rio was £30m in 2002. Rooney was £30m in 2004. How the fück is £22m a big money signing in 2015?

Let’s even admit for a second that Mourinho ruined Schneiderlin, how come no top 6 club picked him up after he left United at only 27 years of age?

Why is he now playing for Nice? Even before Jose’s arrival, Deschamps didn’t consider him elite enough to give him a minute of football throughout Euro 2016 tournament.

That’s your big money signing coveted by most EPL clubs. You can only convince yourself that United and City were at par as at the summer of 2016.

They were at par but United never finished once above them in the 3 year period between Fergie’s retirement and Mourinho’s arrival.

Similar strength my ašs!

Schneiderlin was damaged by Mourinho like he did for Mata. Like he almost did for KdB and Salah who had to step down to tier 2 clubs to rebuild their careers

Illimitable:
Shaw was 18, got injured under LVG. It took him almost 3 seasons to recover from his injuries and he’s only had a decent season since.
Mourinho’s most trusted soldier at United.
If they were at par with City, how come United never finished above them between 2013 and 2016?
Sterling’s improvement is the natural progression of a young player to a mature player. Are we talking about the record breaking Raheem that City paid £50m for in 2015?
Soon enough, you would say it was Pep that spiritually improved Danny Ings that used to be a low scoring player to a highly productive player. Pep can solve every problem in the world except winning CL trophy without Messi.

Mourinho had Shaw, Had Herrera yet did not finish close to Pep any season. They were not finishing above because of the quality of coaching at Man Utd, You were using Moyes LvG, Mourinho and Ole. That is the problem not the quality of players

Pep is in the CL, Mourinho couldnt even get a CL level club to play in, How many CL seasons has Mourinho played in the last 5? Mourino will soon join Ole and Pirlo as coaches who couldnt win the CL with Ronaldo Mr Champions League worse still Mourinho got peak Ronaldo

raumdeuter:


Schneiderlin was damaged by Mourinho like he did for Mata. Like he almost did for KdB and Salah who had to step down to tier 2 clubs to rebuild their careers

He was damaged by Mourinho

Yet during Euro 2016(few months before Jose started his career at United), Morgan wasn’t picked to kick the ball throughout an entire tournament.

Mourinho damaged him before managing him?

And after he left Mourinho at a peak age of 27, no other big club wanted him this amazing world class player yet Aguero was wanted by Barca at 34, Zlatan still has a career at Milan at 40, Ronaldo still coveted at 36.

Yet, a young Schneiderlin of 27 can’t find a decent club.

Even a dog cannot be convinced of your argument.

odizeey:

He's 36 or because no be your fav.

Illimitable:


He was damaged by Mourinho

Yet during Euro 2016(few months before Jose started his career at United), Morgan wasn’t picked to kick the ball throughout an entire tournament.

Mourinho damaged him before managing him?

And after he left Mourinho at a peak age of 27, no other big club wanted him this amazing world class player yet Aguero was wanted by Barca at 34, Zlatan still has a career at Milan at 40, Ronaldo still coveted at 36.

Yet, a young Schneiderlin of 27 can’t find a decent club.

Even a dog cannot be convinced of your argument.

Aguero was only able to join a decrepit Barcelona whose best layer is Memphis Depay. Current Barcelona is like Everton. Schneiderlin had to battle Pogba and Kante for the French team that was loaded in midfield

raumdeuter:

Mourinho had Shaw, Had Herrera yet did not finish close to Pep any season. They were not finishing above because of the quality of coaching at Man Utd, You were using Moyes LvG, Mourinho and Ole. That is the problem not the quality of players.

So it’s got nothing to do with Pep spending £300m on his defence? Pep binned Zabaleta, Hart, Sagna, Clichy, Kolarov, Mangala and Demichelis and got £50m defenders. He even managed to sign Claudio Bravo and binned him instantly after his debut season failed.

Meanwhile, Jose was forced to play ex-wingers like Young and Valencia as full backs till he left United. The only defensive signings he got were rookies(Bailly, Dalot and Lindelof) while Pep was signing top class defenders.

How you can even say in public that a manager that has spent close to a £1 billion in 5 years is using elite coaching to improve his players should have you embarrassed. If Pep’s elite coaching is the key, why didn’t he improve Sagna, Kolarov, Zabaleta, etc

raumdeuter:

Pep is in the CL, Mourinho couldnt even get a CL level club to play in, How many CL seasons has Mourinho played in the last 5? Mourino will soon join Ole and Pirlo as coaches who couldnt win the CL with Ronaldo Mr Champions League worse still Mourinho got peak Ronaldo

That would be the same Jose Mourinho that Madrid(the most successful football club in the world) begged 3 times in a week to take the role of their manager? Do you people even pay attention to the world around you?

raumdeuter:


Aguero was only able to join a decrepit Barcelona whose best layer is Memphis Depay. Current Barcelona is like Everton. Schneiderlin had to battle Pogba and Kante for the French team that was loaded in midfield

If he was world class and coveted by most PL clubs, how come he couldn’t battle Pogba, Kante, Matuidi, etc for a place?

Illimitable:


So it’s got nothing to do with Pep spending £300m on his defence? Pep binned Zabaleta, Hart, Sagna, Clichy, Kolarov, Mangala and Demichelis and got £50m defenders. He even managed to sign Claudio Bravo and binned him instantly after his debut season failed.

Meanwhile, Jose was forced to play ex-wingers like Young and Valencia as full backs till he left United. The only defensive signings he got were rookies(Bailly, Dalot and Lindelof) while Pep was signing top class defenders.

How you can even say in public that a manager that has spent close to a £1 billion in 5 years is using elite coaching to improve his players should have you embarrassed. If Pep’s elite coaching is the key, why didn’t he improve Sagna, Kolarov, Zabaleta, etc

Mourinho broke the EPL record for a midfielder, broke the EPL record for a striker, yet was always double digits from Pep every season. In Addition to Mikitaryan Baily Lindelof Dalot and others. First season he even finished 6th, before he was sacked, he was 6th.

That would be the same Jose Mourinho that Madrid(the most successful football club in the world) begged 3 times in a week to take the role of their manager? Do you people even pay attention to the world around you?

Madrid begged Mourinho but he preferred to join Skysport studio with Gary Neville and co? You really believe that

raumdeuter:


Aguero was only able to join a decrepit Barcelona whose best layer is Memphis Depay. Current Barcelona is like Everton. Schneiderlin had to battle Pogba and Kante for the French team that was loaded in midfield

The question begs how this decrepit Barcelona didn’t throw a punt at Schneiderlin.

Morgan now plays for Nice. It seems like he’s found his level.

raumdeuter:

Mourinho broke the EPL record for a midfielder, broke the EPL record for a striker, yet was always double digits from Pep every season. In Addition to Mikitaryan Baily Lindelof Dalot and others. First season he even finished 6th, before he was sacked, he was 6th.

Yep, if you bought a £400 pair of shoes, you have spent more money than your friend that bought 100 shoes at £120 each.

After all, £400 is bigger than £120.

Weird logic!

raumdeuter:

Madrid begged Mourinho but he preferred to join Skysport studio with Gary Neville and co? You really believe that

They begged him not to take the Spurs job and wait till Zidane completes his contract. They offered him £12m for that but Mourinho wanted the job ASAP.

After Zidane left and Mourinho had already signed for Roma, they went back to beg him again for the job before considering Ancelotti.

Ancelotti finished 10th in the PL last season, way below Spurs. So if it’s about performance or whatever you are trying to say, the job should have gone to Ole or Lampard.

If you really think elite managers like Jose or Ancelotti would run out of big jobs after their respective illustrious careers, then you don’t understand football dynamics. Their legacy is set forever and the uselessness of the board they worked under cannot tarnish what they have built.

Mourinho is bigger than football. He’s the special one!

Illimitable:
My God, Xavi is the god of midfielders.

Of all players some research groups have filmed in the past 20+ years, Xavi Hernández is the one with the highest average scanning frequency in a full game (measured last 10 seconds before receiving the ball):

For those who don’t know, a scan was operationally defined as a player’s active head movement where the face (and hence, the eyes) is temporarily directed away from the ball, with the assumed intention of gathering information about teammates and/or opponents, to prepare for subsequently engaging with the ball.

Xavi’s head is always moving to check his environment before receiving the ball. No wonder United players were chasing shadows in 2009 CL final. We couldn’t get close to him. Fergie said it’s like he had eyes behind his head. If you think you have closed Xavi down, he just turns to the other direction he had scanned before receiving the ball and eludes his marker.

McFred in a million years can’t attain this level of awareness.

When i said it here that Xavi made Barcelona and Spain play effective tikitaka, one moniker here dey argue say na Iniesta. Some people just argue blindly for the sake of argument, Xavi was undoubtedly the senior man of midfield during his time....

DeadPresidents:


I'd be mad if I was him too.

You have a guy that cost a fraction of what the great French hope cost and delivers regularly without us running around Carrington looking for unlocking software.

Just need a manager that can properly define a system for us. United would be a fecking threat with a proper manager.

The great french hope

DeadPresidents:


I'd be mad if I was him too.

You have a guy that cost a fraction of what the great French hope cost and delivers regularly without us running around Carrington looking for unlocking software.

Just need a manager that can properly define a system for us. United would be a fecking threat with a proper manager.

The bolded is why nitrogen no wan forgive Bruno, the great french hope ....

raumdeuter:


CL is a knockout competition where anything can happen

Lyon 2 seasons ago finished Midtable in France yet made the CL semi.

Rashford was already a breakout star just like Sterling. If Rashford was put on the market he would command similar amount to Sterling. Martial even did despite coming from France without the English player tax

Fernandinho was improved under Pep, only that Mourinho failed to do the same to Schneiderlin

Yaya was as finished as Schweinsteiger. Post City, Yaya landed in Olympiakos where he was sacked in less than a season

Mata was same level with Silva until he ran into Jose Mourinho. We can compare their epl stats

Fernandinho has been class before pep, he was already 32 before pep arrived, so what did pep improve ?

raumdeuter:


Dante and David Luiz were also part of the 7-1 team demolition plus Fred plus Bernard plus Hulk plus Luis Gustavo how many of these are top class? Being part of that 7-1 should even be a negative

Schneiderlin was a big money signing that was coveted by top epl clubs

Shaw was a big money signing for a left back

Herrera left Man utd to PSG

That was a solid team at par with City which Mourinho failed to improve unlike Pep

You see Sterling scoring 20 goals the same Sterling that people used to laugh at pre Pep. Even till date many people can't believe Pep made Sterling look like a semi productive player

And yes mourinho failed to improve his team as pep did to mancity

Sterling that was an headless chicken under pellegrini, iheanacho even outscored sterling at pelegrini last season

Illimitable:


The question begs how this decrepit Barcelona didn’t throw a punt at Schneiderlin.

Morgan now plays for Nice. It seems like he’s found his level.

Barcelona that was shopping for free players, No wonder they hijacked Memphis, Aguero and Eric Garcia, Eric that was like 6th CB for City is currently a starter at Barcelona. Braithwaite and LuukDejong are Barcelonas attackers competing with Aguero

raumdeuter:


Barcelona that was shopping for free players, No wonder they hijacked Memphis, Aguero and Eric Garcia, Eric that was like 6th CB for City is currently a starter at Barcelona. Braithwaite and LuukDejong are Barcelonas attackers competing with Aguero

So why didn’t they sign Morgan Schneiderlin?

Illimitable:


Yep, if you bought a £400 pair of shoes, you have spent more money than your friend that bought 100 shoes at £120 each.

After all, £400 is bigger than £120.

Weird logic!

Man City spent big, Man Utd spent big. City won big Man utd failed

They begged him not to take the Spurs job and wait till Zidane completes his contract. They offered him £12m for that but Mourinho wanted the job ASAP.

After Zidane left and Mourinho had already signed for Roma, they went back to beg him again for the job before considering Ancelotti.

Ancelotti finished 10th in the PL last season, way below Spurs. So if it’s about performance or whatever you are trying to say, the job should have gone to Ole or Lampard.

If you really think elite managers like Jose or Ancelotti would run out of big jobs after their respective illustrious careers, then you don’t understand football dynamics. Their legacy is set forever and the uselessness of the board they worked under cannot tarnish what they have built.

Mourinho is bigger than football. He’s the special one!

Mourinho that was bantering with failed coaches like Gary Neville and Thierry Henry in Skystudios before Spurs was the one Madrid begged?

Illimitable:


So why didn’t they sign Morgan Schneiderlin?

Was he available for free?

andrewbaba44:


Fernandinho has been class before pep, he was already 32 before pep arrived, so what did pep improve ?

Fernandinho was improved under Pep, He was just a regular CM before Pep made him a specialist DM. Same way he converted Silva from wings to a CM

raumdeuter:


Fernandinho was improved under Pep, He was just a regular CM before Pep made him a specialist DM. Same way he converted Silva from wings to a CM

I am a pep fan here for your info

Fernandinho has been a top class player since his late shaktar days ,he was 32 when pep arrived ,so what exactly did pep improve ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGB4cWfoQAY

andrewbaba44:


I am a pep fan here for your info

Fernandinho has been a top class player since his late shaktar days ,he was 32 when pep arrived ,so what exactly did pep improve ?

Fernandinho was improved by Pep from a Cm to one of the best DMs in the league

Shebi Fred too was a class player at Shaktar why has he not been improved