coogar:


rooney was fit - he had a full preseason. RVP wasn't fit, he didn't even make the preseason. he had to be rushed back to fitness after a tiring world cup campaign for country.

coogar:



shouldn't he have more assists? cesc - the assist leader in the league plays from which position?

coogar:


RVP's standard is higher than rooney's. even my pet dog knows that. the day rooney wins a golden boot in this league, cameron would declare a month's holiday for everyone.

elampiro:

4 against QPR, he didnt score one for 90+ minutes.

At least, none above Rooney. It's still fair comparison of ratings.

You will have to back it with heat map or/and players position.

elampiro:

Did RVP have any injury in te world cup? NO.

Rooney rested two weeks before preseason. RVP rested two weeks before the charity shield weekend. so?

Is Cesc a United player? Is Cesc a striker? I am telling you Rooney's stat from striking position for Man United.

Good boot is nothing. What did golden boot do for RVP at Arsenal? What about Suarez?

If Rooney was played as a lone srriker as RVP has been used over the years, Rooney would have won golden boot every season since 2009/10.

coogar:


how many did rooney score against southampton? we have played against chelsea, liverpool, southampton, city & arsenal.....(top 5 last season + top 5 currently) and rooney has only 2 goals to show for it. RVP has double that amount.

you are not making sense.

coogar:


fatigue!
it's worse than injury. it's kept fellaini out of the team for 2-3 games now.



rooney did nothing in the summer. how many games did he play? the last group game was a formality sef. england was already out of the tourney. so why did he need any rest like RVP that played till the eve of the final?




cesc leads the assist stat playing beside matic. how come rooney isn't leading or close to the top playing beside carrick?



it's called an individual award - not a team award. suarez's golden boot got him the barca deal.



ronaldo won it playing from the wing. suarez won it without being a lone striker. since then(09/10), tevez, berbatov, etc have all won it without making excuses.

why is rooney such a poor footballer?

elampiro:

Everton finished 5th last season. Rooney did not play against Chelsea and Everton. RVP did. What a biased comparison. Even against Southampton, Rooney was not fit.

Coogar, go and sleep now because you are not talking.

elampiro:
Fellaini has fatigue + virus + rib injury. You are not current at all. You dey yan fallacy. Berbatov and Tevez were our top strikers with Rooney supporting them.

coogar:


rooney didn't play against everton - that's why i didn't include it. rooney fired blanks against city & southampton. RVP scored 2 goals against southampton.

coogar:


rooney couldn't have scored against chelsea - he has the poorest goal return against them. RVP always räpes chelsea. he's bagged a hatrick against em in the past at SB.

coogar:


you have been cut & diced.....
rooney's poor football skills were responsible for our slow start in the season. if he was any good, we shoulda gotten 6 points in the first 3 games.

coogar:


rooney's 12 seasons at old trafford - never led the assist chart, never topped the scorer's chart and he's played with the best of the best players in those seasons.

Odunharry:
JayKayMaybachz and igbsam check the link i posted above

dopeJemi:


I'd replace valencia with herrera

SailorXY:


this is the best formation we can put out for me. the very close calls are Jones/Smalling/Rojo, Valencia/Fellaini, Herrera/Mata & van Persie/Falcao...

but for me -
- - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - -

Rafael - Smalling - Jones - Shaw

- - - - - - - - - - Blind - - - - - - - - -

- - - - Valencia - - - - Herrera - - -

- - - - - - - - - di Maria - - - - - - -

- - - - Rooney - - - - - Falcao - - -

chrisley024:
Haha! I know u wont include Carrick

Well, problem with this formation is that the full backs are well exposed and besides, most players here are not yet fit or injured like Valencia and Di maria

Dadehmola:


•As regards the players you mentioned, we bought them based on the impressive forms they had at thier respective clubs. Falcao on the other hand, is a 29 year old who for one one reason or the other, hasn't really played football within the last 12 months, so I really don't see how his scenario correlates with the aforementioned players.

•The club decided to get falcao- a 28year old foward who's long term fitness was always gonna be in doubt, on a loan deal so as to give him a chance to prove his fitness and form before splashing out mega bucks on him (an intelligent thing to do, obviously). If for whatever reasons, he fails to do so at the end of the spell, why them should the club tie him down with a hefty contract at a high transfer fee?

• As you would have noticed, I asked if he should still be signed for 43m at the end of the season even if he fails to improve on his form,fitness and injury concerns - a testament to the fact that summer is the appropriate time to pass the final verdict. Dunno what you mean by "quick judgement", unless you feel that a season is too short for a such a player to prove his worth, considering why we even had him on loan in the 1st place.

• As for the age falsification issue, both of us don't really have the facts on board but it's definitely a factor that has to be keyed into consideration - the fact that his official age is 29, makes it worse.



The more reason why you shouldn't see it as a witch-hunt or whatever...

We are talking about spending big money on an ageing Mercedes S600 (2010-2012 model) that gave that us the performance of a 1987 Subaru during the test drive we were even fortunate to have in the 1st place. ( I really hope it doesn't turn out this way).



That's why we have scouts. God forbid, if falcao continues this way till the end of the season, which other big club you think say go ready pay 43m for his services? It wouldn't just make any sense.

SailorXY:


this is the best formation we can put out for me. the very close calls are Jones/Smalling/Rojo, Valencia/Fellaini, Herrera/Mata & van Persie/Falcao...

but for me -
- - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - -

Rafael - Smalling - Jones - Shaw

- - - - - - - - - - Blind - - - - - - - - -

- - - - Valencia - - - - Herrera - - -

- - - - - - - - - di Maria - - - - - - -

- - - - Rooney - - - - - Falcao - - -

SailorXY:

what goal/assist range are you looking @ by the end of the season before you deem his spell successful?

elampiro:


Merry Christmas.

I thought we missed Valencia in the second half. His substitution unbalanced our play, coupled with fatigue.

igbsam:


Seen, I just don't know what to say to that guy. He is suffering from a rare disease we will have to research on. Has mourinho achieve half of what SAF achieved ? Only a deluded person will come out and spew such nonsense. Anyway, Chelsea people are known to create fictional records.

mcfarlin:
Sailorxy,odunharry,coogar,elampiro,dopejemi...

What are your opinions on the nominees for uniteds player of the month award..

Rooney,ashley young,carrick

I choose young he's been a revelation in his new position.

elampiro:

And you saw him against Chelsea? The one RVP scored, you added, the one he didnt score you deleted. Ukwu!

Southampton is a middle team table, they finished 8th last season. Even at that Rooney was not match fit.

As a lone striker abi?

RVP came and worsened the situation, abi. If It were RVP who started the season, we would have 0 point in 3 games.

RVP will dream to be what Rooney is in football. RVP may retire without a UCL. He has never been listed among FIFA pro XI. He has never top assist in UCL.

mcfarlin:
Sailorxy,odunharry,coogar,elampiro,dopejemi...
What are your opinions on the nominees for uniteds player of the month award..
Rooney,ashley young,carrick
I choose young he's been a revelation in his new position.

mcfarlin:
Sailorxy,odunharry,coogar,elampiro,dopejemi...

What are your opinions on the nominees for uniteds player of the month award..

Rooney,ashley young,carrick

I choose young he's been a revelation in his new position.

SIRcumalot:

Young has been great but we won't be playing this Wing back position for long,
Shaw and Rafeal don come back.

mcfarlin:


1.Exactly that's why he's going to win it

2.I agree but the award is based on the present!

coogar:



de gea would win it.
he was the only player that made team of the season(so far) on skysports last night. neville even named him as the player of the season(so far) before carragher named aguero.

de gea has been nothing short of world class.

SIRcumalot:

Totally forgot De gea,no way Young is winning and it won't be close at all.

mcfarlin:


Ironically de gea didn't make the list

Its young,carrick,rooney.