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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:38am On Feb 13, 2016
airmark:


You will not accept those who know real madrid players to inform you what you dont know. That's how you were arguing blindly that benz was always removed cos of safe leads. Just continue watching and celebrating your rooney, you have no idea about madrid and its players at all. So unfortunate i spent a lot of time on your foolish posts.




I believe I watch and follow Madrid games more than you do. I have followed Madrid ardently since Ronaldo went there.

I should have listened to raumdeuter to ignore your jarakpanu analysis.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 9:44am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


Stop changing and dancing, stay on the line of argument. We are not discussing the value of the players, but their stats so far this season. Suarez could be more valuable but at the moment he is trailing the other guys in stats.

When Berbertov won the golden boot, he wasn't the most valuable striker in Europe, not even in the EPL. Fernado Tores was far more valuable striker. But Berbertov was a better scorer than Tores that season.

As of today, Benzema is a better scorer than Suarez. It might change tomorrow. Please enlighten yourself.

Elampiro - i am struggling to grasp the emboldened.

Kindly help a brother out.. embarassed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:45am On Feb 13, 2016
lekkie073:

Player A: 6 goals in a match and 4 goals in 7 subsequent matches
Player B: one goal each in 8 consecutive matches...

Who is better

My guy, for your infor, Benzema goals are well spread.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:46am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:


Elampiro - i am struggling to grasp the emboldened.

Kindly help a brother out.. embarassed

I don't understand you. What exactly is your question?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 9:54am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


I don't understand you. What exactly is your question?

I want you to elucidate more on the emboldened part...

In the aforementioned season, who was the best CF in the league (in your opinion)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 10:09am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


Berbatov is renowned for scoring against weak teams and weak footballing countres

Airmark, it seems Dayo isn't the only one whose past comments clearly contradict his present assertions...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 10:12am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:



Golden boot is nothing. A Man United sole striker should win golden boot. Towards the end f that season, United forward were over generous to help him win he golden boot by choosing to pass to Berba instead of them scoring. Yet Berba was wasteful and allowed Tevez to overtake him. If not for the empathy of FA to award extra goal to him, he wouldn't even win.

He is a failure and he talks like one.

Who is Berbatov?

Okay...

cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:12am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:


I want you to elucidate more on the emboldened part...

In the aforementioned season, who was the best CF in the league (in your opinion)


It was in 2010/11

At the beginning, Tores was rated and valued higher than Bervatov. But as the season went on, Bervatov became the better goalscorer. At the end, Bervatov beat Suarez in goals stats.

But it didnt stop the world from valuing Tores more than Bervatov. Tores was still worth more in the market. So also we have it now, Suarez is still valued more even though Benzema has better goals return per matches and minutes played. That's as at today.

If both guys keep scoring at their current rates, Benzema will win the golden boot. That is if......

But Suarez will still be more valued.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:15am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:


I actually blame coogar for this kinda nonsense...

His uncanny ability to pull up stats unnecessarily, na im make Elampiro sef dey talk Nonsense nowadays. He wasn't like this before.

As for Dayo, his previous posts seem to have a way of haunting him in his arguments lately grin cheesy

Sometimes i wonder where they put their brains. Dost of wolfsburg last season scored 16 goals in 13 matches compared to lewandowski 17 goals in 25 matches. To elampiro and raumdeuter Dost was the best striker in burnthisleaguedown last season. Yeye people with no football brain.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:15am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:


Okay...

cheesy grin

Now you get the point. Bervatov was the better scorer than Tores, but Tores had more value.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:17am On Feb 13, 2016
airmark:


Sometimes i wonder where they put their brains. Dost of wolfsburg last season scored 16 goals in 13 matches compared to lewandowski 17 goals in 25 matches. To elampiro and raumdeuter Dost was the best striker in burnthisleaguedown last season. Yeye people with no football brain.

Keep exposing your ignorance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:19am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:


Airmark, it seems Dayo isn't the only one whose past comments clearly contradict his present assertions...

He is dayo's accomplice. I have seen it in him , thats why they r good friends now. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:28am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


Keep exposing your ignorance.

Ba Dost scored 16 goals in 1528 minutes and lewandowski 17 in 2480 minutes. You better let dayo know Dost was better than his overhyped lewa in goals. If one striker is better than the other in goal scoring, your guess is as good as mine. Dost should be collecting lewas salary according to your logic. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:28am On Feb 13, 2016

What gave birth to this argument was that airmark asked why whoscored put Ibrahimovic and Bale over Suarez. I showed that those guys had better attacking stats. Goals, Assists, chances created, dribbling. Bale had an outstanding record in not being dispossessed and avoiding in successful touches.

I wondered if they wanted someone with less attacking stats to be chosen ahead of others with better attacking ability.

Ibrahimovic is having his best league goals return ever. He was not this good in scoring league goals when he felt created in Ballon D'or.

So why should the whoscored rating be faulted? The rating is right, but if we say ratings are just a guide and we need to use our descretion, that's another matter entiring. But in stats, those two shit on Suarez at the moment.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:31am On Feb 13, 2016
airmark:


He is dayo's accomplice. I have seen it in him , thats why they r good friends now. grin

Dadehmola didn't understand what I meant by the Tores and Bervatov comparison. So he got it wrong and you are following him blindly.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36am On Feb 13, 2016
airmark:


Ba Dost scored 16 goals in 1528 minutes and lewandowski 17 in 2480 minutes. You better let dayo know Dost was better than his overhyped lewa in goals. If one striker is better than the other in goal scoring, your guess is as good as mine. Dost should be collecting lewas salary according to your logic. grin

According to my logic, Dost was the better finisher but Lewandowski was still more valued. Dost would have to do it again and again for his value to go up.

Even if Harry Kane had scored 35 league goals last season, he wouldn't be as valued as Aguero. It would have only meant he was the better scorer last season.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 10:46am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


It was in 2010/11

At the beginning, Tores was rated and valued higher than Bervatov. But as the season went on, Bervatov became the better goalscorer. At the end, Bervatov beat Suarez in goals stats.


Elampiro, you once had this argument with Coogar and you rubbished Berbatov badly that day...


Berbatov scored 8 of his 20 league goals in 2 matches at Oldtrafford (5 against a hopeless Blackburn team & 3 against Wigan).

Afrodoc even calculated the whopping number of
Mins Berba spent on the pitch that season without scoring.

You said it yourself that Berbatov had a habit of scoring against weaker teams ( I had to dig out that post ) cheesy

Now you con dey change mouth..

If not for the E-Tsunami wey happen that time, I woulda dug up more posts of yours where you crucified Berbatov

elampiro:

But it didnt stop the world from valuing Tores more than Bervatov. Tores was still worth more in the market. So also we have it now, Suarez is still valued more even though Benzema has better goals return per matches and minutes played. That's as at today.


If both guys keep scoring at their current rates, Benzema will win the golden boot. That is if......

But Suarez will still be more valued.

Since stats are facts (according to you), forget Value and hit the nail on the head - who is the better CF as we speak?

Abi why this particular question dey hard you (and Dayo)?

elampiro:

Now you get the point. Bervatov was the better scorer than Tores, but Tores had more value.

You mean Berbatov the failure was better than Torres? shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:24am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:



Elampiro, you once had this argument with Coogar and you rubbished Berbatov badly that day...


Berbatov scored 8 of his 20 league goals in 2 matches at Oldtrafford (5 against a hopeless Blackburn team & 3 against Wigan).

Afrodoc even calculated the whopping number of
Mins Berba spent on the pitch that season without scoring.

You said it yourself that Berbatov had a habit of scoring against weaker teams ( I had to dig out that post ) cheesy

Now you con dey change mouth..

If not for the E-Tsunami wey happen that time, I woulda dug up more posts of yours where you crucified Berbatov



Since stats are facts (according to you), forget Value and hit the nail on the head - who is the better CF as we speak?

Abi why this particular question dey hard you (and Dayo)?



You mean Berbatov the failure was better than Torres? shocked shocked

Bervatov was the better scorer.

Bervatov 20 goals
Kurt 13
Maxi 10
Tores 9

Tores was useless in front of goal that season. He even scored four of his goals in two matches.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:31am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


Bervatov was the better scorer.

Bervatov 20 goals
Kurt 13
Maxi 10
Tores 9

Tores was useless in front of goal that season. He even scored four of his goals in two matches.

elampiro:

Now you get the point. Bervatov was the better scorer than Tores, but Tores had more value.

Continue..

cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:34am On Feb 13, 2016
Elampiro, Benzema & Suarez - who is the better CF as we speak??

Failure to answer this simple question would show that you shouldn't be taken seriously .

Ps - I don't need any explanation and please pay attention to the emboldened

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:37am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:
Elampiro, Benzema & Suarez - who is the better CF as we speak??

Failure to answer this simple question would show that you shouldn't be taken seriously .

Ps - I don't need any explanation and please pay attention to the emboldened

Benzema is the better goalscorer at the moment. Both in league and Europe.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:40am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


Benzema is the better goalscorer at the moment. Both in league and Europe.

Dadehmola:
Elampiro, Benzema & Suarez - who is the better CF as we speak??

Your last chance..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:43am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:




Continue..

cheesy grin

Since you have been writing big grammar, you have lost the ability to comperhend simple English. Keep up your devotion studying dictionary.

I have already told you that a player cannot gain value one season, neither can they lose value in one season. Even if Arguero doesnt score this season, he wont lose his value. Same way Benzema can't be valued more than Suarez even if he scores far higher than him.

So Tores being useless in front of goal in one season didn't drop his value. He ended in being a 50 million striker.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:44am On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:




Your last chance..


You are now talking like those jarakpanus. I am disappointed you cannot get my stance since Sunday.

You might as well be posting repeated images and charts now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:49am On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


I have already told you that a player cannot gain value one season, neither can they lose value in one season. Even if Arguero doesnt score this season, he wont lose his value.

I no go even dey waste time dey argue with you again - n.a. to dey highlight the foolishness in your posts sure pass

grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:27pm On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


According to my logic, Dost was the better finisher but Lewandowski was still more valued. Dost would have to do it again and again for his value to go up.

Even if Harry Kane had scored 35 league goals last season, he wouldn't be as valued as Aguero. It would have only meant he was the better scorer last season.

If you forgot what you said earlier see below. U butressed the point that suarez did not deserve the best 11 since he has inferior goals per minute to ibrahimovic and benzema. If suarez does nt deserve it , lewandowski too did nt deserve bundesliga best 11 according to your logic. You outrightly wrote off suarez why would you not do same for lewa, since dost had better goals per minute in 2014/2015 german season ? You need to be consistent if you want people to respect your opinions. Its not a finisher /value issue. Our argument has been well defined since. Who deserves best 11 slot by whoscored?

elampiro:


I will respond to you properly later. I must tell you first that Suarez doesn't deserve to be there. I will tell you why when I get home.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:36pm On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:


Benzema is the better goalscorer at the moment. Both in league and Europe.

This is dayo raumdeuter (man utd version) cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 12:49pm On Feb 13, 2016

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:54pm On Feb 13, 2016
airmark:


If you forgot what you said earlier see below. U butressed the point that suarez did not deserve the best 11 since he has inferior goals per minute to ibrahimovic and benzema. If suarez does nt deserve it , lewandowski too did nt deserve bundesliga best 11 according to your logic. You outrightly wrote off suarez why would you not do same for lewa, since dost had better goals per minute in 2014/2015 german season ? You need to be consistent if you want people to respect your opinions. Its not a finisher /value issue. Our argument has been well defined since. Who deserves best 11 slot by whoscored?

I don't get you.

Suarez didn't deserve to be there not only on goals per minutes, but with many other attacking stats. I listed them, and Suarez was the least among the three. So be comprehensive in your analysis.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:00pm On Feb 13, 2016
Dadehmola:


I no go even dey waste time dey argue with you again - n.a. to dey highlight the foolishness in your posts sure pass

grin grin


You know you I have superior argument 1mX.

Tell me why Vardy is not worth as Costa? One has done it over and over again. One is only doing it now. One season wont make Vardy to be more valuable than Costa.

You no even know ball.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:03pm On Feb 13, 2016
chrisley024:

Hope our defence will pocket Defoe today? Sunderland sit deep and defend in numbers. Very organized defence marshalled by Oshea. Defoe stays high and runs into spaces.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 1:27pm On Feb 13, 2016
elampiro:

I don't get you.

Suarez didn't deserve to be there not only on goals per minutes, but with many other attacking stats. I listed them, and Suarez was the least among the three. So be comprehensive in your analysis.

Just as bas dost has better stats than lewandowski in 2014/2015 per minute . according to you dost>>>>lewandowski. Thats great. cheesy

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