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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 3:00pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola:Nice try but the Mirror is saying £210k and the SUN £220k so i really doubt their correctness. The Mirror isn't a reliable source either. The SUN, mirror, Daily Star, Metro etc are all sh1tty sources in the same league. SKY and MEN used to be good unlike now they just report any rumor; i think the Telegraph is still decent and i rate the BBC as the best. By reputable source, you should know what i mean bro. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 3:13pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Vanquay16:I won't say anything further. If we were to place a bet on him succeeding as a top striker for us, what do you think are the odds for and against? I'll know where to put my money. I'm being realistic here, he's more likely to fail than succeed here. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrDojo(m): 3:15pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:15pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
funlord: 1. If I'm the only one with that opinion, then good for me. 2. How is it a poor speculation when Spurs lost their ground as soon as Dembele and Alli were out? Or when City became buoyed with the availability of Debruyne and Agureo? That's to tell you what the loss of 1-2 quality players can do to a team yet Van gaal's team without having quality players as good as those aforementioned players went on to compete toe to toe with City for the top 4 and did a lot better than Chelsea. 3. How did that statement implied that Bayern were playing boring matches? The only thing that could be got from that statement was that the players turned against him after a poor season when the defence was leaking goals and he did nothing about it culminating into their loss of the title. The matches in the link showed that Bayern were quite good going forward and the team scored plenty. 4. Do I even have to list it? Our late top 4 run had us plying some good game plus the game that emerged Rashford. The games I could remember were Westham fA cup, Arsenal, Leicester, Midgetlland, our 1-0 win over ManCity, Everton fa cup, Bournemouth etc . |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:23pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1:Nawa o! Why such a wish for the young boy? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:31pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: A lie? This is coach that brought it in the likes of Blackett, James reece, Mcnair, Lingard etc from the beginning and was looking to blood them in until they showed they weren't good enough. And the main reason he decided to bring in kids like TFM and Poole from the outside. Also, no one says Linagrd should be a starter but he's a good squad player better than the likes of Mata and others. I would even say he's our own version of Pedro because of his heart in big games such as the City and the FA cup final. He also had a good performance against Barca in the pre-season. And another correction, Lingard didn't get his chance because he was out injured. Simple as Abc. I've addressed other point of yours and no matter what you says, no one can deny that Van gaal brought us Martial, Rashford and TFm to some extent. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 3:36pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1:if rashford performance shows he us more likely to fail than succeed, then even Martial too is more likely to fail than succeed because to me the differences between their games is very negligible |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 3:36pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Diademk07: So why else would bayerns players, the board and their fans turn against such a superb coach? Since they were attacking with full force all around europe and scoring 8,9, 10 goals per match? By the way did most of our old ex players, fans and the board not eventually turn aginst him too? And also at barca? Arsenal that gave us 3-0? And I hope you know our return win was extremely lucky because they even out possessed us, and had more goal scoring opportunities AT OUR HOME? Everton granted but see the kind matches wey you dey give me! Leicester wey woze us? Midgeltland? Haba kagwawa wetin be this na? Not even against superior rivals or teams? Bros, your man van gaal only brought turgid, mind numbing, depressingly sad and boring sterile possession based football to united, confused the hell out of the players, bought and sold wrongly in the transfer market, alienated himself from the press with his confused rants and strange stats and discovered a few good youngsters. That is his legacy! I had hope in him but eventually lost it! Believe what you will about gaal, but whenever you get sacked don't tell people that you were sacked for being too good at your job! No dey try yarn me say _shit na chocolate syrup abeg! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:40pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Diademk07:LvG brought in all these young players cos of injuries to the senior players. Blackett, James reece, Mcnair were cos of injuries to our back, Martial cos Rooney was missing chances, etc |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:51pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
funlord: Leicestrr didn't wooze us or anything. We were the better team and should have had a penalty. It had to take Morgan blocking everything out especially after Drinkewyter got sent off and their goal came through a set-piece. Apart from their Ariel threat, we outplayed them. Arsenal didn't gift us any win. The likes of Rashford, Carrick who was playing as our Beckenbauer in defence were fantastic in that game. That said, Bayern board did turn against him because they were expecting a title which Van gaal failed. But the truth of the matter is Van gaal brought Bayern into limelight once again after a long barren period. Prior to Van gaal, Bayern no longer had that reagrd in Europe. He was the one that brought in Robben, Ribery, turned Schwein's game into a midfield master, brought forth Mueller, Alaba, Kroos etc into the team and made them a power house once again. I think Van gaal talent is more suitable to a small club that gives enough patience because at the time Bayern had no big expectation after a long failure, Van gaal was able to do well without the pressure not until Bayern started becoming the powerhouse they were once again. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 4:02pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Diademk07:Stop telling lies. LVG had no plans to play these youths until injuries forced his hand and he had no choice. At the beginning of the season when most of our players were fit, LVG didn't give chances to those players. In fact LVG almost broke a 78 year old record of having a youth player in every match day squad but it was injuries that saved us. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3230686/Manchester-United-s-big-money-transfer-policy-spell-end-astonishing-78-year-record-3-750-consecutive-games-youth-team-graduate-squad.html LVG is a lunatic, stupid and arrogant man who enjoys spinning the truth and telling lies and you're just like him. No wonder you support him. Also, no one says Linagrd should be a starter but he's a good squad player better than the likes of Mata and others. I would even say he's our own version of Pedro because of his heart in big games such as the City and the FA cup final. He also had a good performance against Barca in the pre-season. And another correction, Lingard didn't get his chance because he was out injured. Simple as Abc.Our version of Pedro? What madness is this again? You think Lingard is even remotely as good as Pedro or is a version of him? Pedro was a deserving starter in a world cup winning team(Spain) and was a starter in Barcelona's deadly attack of 2011 that was the Champions league? Can Lingard even make the bench of any of those teams that Pedro featured in? And you're comparing him with fecking Lingard that can't even start for United and couldn't even make this current sh1tty England's squad? Are you mad or something? If we wanna aim higher and have a good squad that can compete with the likes of Madrid or Bayern, then Lingard might not even good enough to be a squad player. It's the truth. Martial isn't from our youth academy; we signed him for a teenage record fee so don't even mention him. Rashford and TFM have achieved nothing yet and the jury is still out on them. They might turn out successful players good enough for United or they might not. The latter is most likely and it would only highlight LVG failure. When would you stop telling lies BTW? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 4:03pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
chrisley024: I need to remind you that Reece and Blacckett were starter until they looked out of their depth. Martial was already playing alongside Rooney before Rooney got injured. It was only Rashford that was brought forth when Rooney got injured and I tell without Van gaal trust in youth, that would have never happened! Look at Mourinho who had to loan Adebayor at Madrid when he was short of strikers! How about his Chelsea stint when all his experienced players were underperforming yet he failed to promote any youth player. Hiddink had Traore and Chalobah in his team as soon as he became Coach. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 4:12pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: I am not here to debate the reputation of newspapers as regards rumours, hombrè....
Two additional excerpts suggesting that Pogba would be the highest paid player at the club.. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 4:12pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: You're the one telling lies here not me! Players like Blackett, Reece and Lingard were in our squad right from the start and were given chances aprt from Lingard who was out injured. That already destroy your point. Also, put Lingard alongside worldclass players and he will look as good as Pedro. As a matter of fact, Lingard did a lot better last season than Pedro who looked like a kid without the likes of Messi and Iniesta cuddling him. Yes, Martial wasn't from our academy but he was a teenager with little experience yet Van gaal procured him and had plenty of trust in him. Mourinho would hardly do that! That shows the difference between them. The reality is Van gaal did a lot better with a poor squad like ours than what Mourinho managed with his Chelsea squad which was far better. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 4:17pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
lekkie073:I talked about odds as facts. Current performances don't guarantee anything; you should understand this by now. Rashford's development may not go the way you expect and it's very possible the current version of him doesn't improve much further in things like hold up play, ball control etc. It's all speculative. To put things into perspective; People expect Rashford to lead the line in about 2 years time but that isn't even realistic. They don't know this. People thought a 20 year old Martial was good enough to be CF but soon they realized their folly and said he is too young but these same people expect that a 20 year old Rashford(in 2 years time) to be good enough. Is Rashford more talented than Martial currently or do you think he would be as good as him in 2 years? Is Rashford a better player than Martial already? Do you think Martial would be good enough as a CF for United in 2 years time either as a 22 year old? Answer these questions first so i'll see if you're reasoning with emotions or not. I don't understand why most people find it so difficult to be realistic |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 4:23pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: At no time did Martial consistently played as a striker in a top flight league. He doesn't hve that instinct. Rashford is as good as Owen when he emerged as a striker. Both has similarities which is their instinct, pace and composure. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 4:32pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola:I'm not disputing Pogba could be the highest paid player at the club. It's quite possible when his basic salary is coupled with his image rights. It's the wages of £400k gross or £220k net i was disputing in the first place and you haven't given any reason to end my disbelieve. I still maintain that £220k is more likely to be gross than net. £400 per week is a lot of money and i really doubt he's getting that. English media don't have a clue; it's the same way they usually convert € to £ directly when reporting transfer fees and it's another confusion here for gross and net. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:39pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Men you guys have energy and time sha! Some of these convoluted arguments have no resolution, so why persist? By the time you and another poster have 4,5 posts on a matter and neither of you budges wetin remain to debate? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 4:39pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1:I disagree.. nobody said martial is never a striker. his best lies in playing as a LWF. rashford and martial as I believe have very thin difference when it comes to potentials. watch the small time rashford moves from either wings and u will see that martial is not outrightly better than him |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 4:42pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
lekkie073:Answer those questions properly first. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:44pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Aaasssssshhhh!!! It's quite a while I've been to this thread! I thought I would read a good news on Pogba but I'm too lazy to read all the jamborees here joor!!! Let me keep off till the debate ends! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:54pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Martial's best position is on the wing - LWF precisely! Rashford played well also as LWF, especially in their last Match at the Euro 2016. Striking-wise, I will pick Rashford over Martial any day anytime! Rashford has the tendency of becoming a world Class Striker than Martial! He has shown the glimpses toward the end of last season. Martial is definitely going to be a Hit - but he should concentrate his development on the Wing (LWF)! That are my inputs to the on-going debate! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Fussbot: 4:56pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
I've been meaning to ask... Abeg watin do coogar? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 4:58pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Fussbot:It's a long story bro but some guys like Afrodoc2 can you give you a good recap. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AikayDaWrapper(m): 5:04pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola:Dude all these people are just copying and pasting each other. It's still these same papers that are saying we signed Schweinsteiger for 14 million when Bayern have already confirmed that it was 6.5 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 5:05pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1:Martial will never play as CF in manutd with rashford in the team. His game doesn't portray a striker. he wasn't a striker in Monaco, he is not played as a CF for france and his limited cameos as a CF for united did not yield positives... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:11pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: LOL so na me be amebo abi? Fussbot: E chop girl clean mouth, the girl no complain. Na him e come chop the girl money clean mouth on top, the girl lahun! Both Nairaland Police and Metropolitan Police for London dey involved, the last we heard was Coog promising to return like Arnold Shwarzenegger or Abija wara bi ekun. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 5:16pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
lekkie073:This is your opinion. I remembered when Martial first arrived, he was played as CF and was very impressive; have you forgotten? Go figure out. We had to play him as a winger because LVG wanted to shoehorn Rooney and Depay stank up the whole place, and it was then we realized how he good he was at the wings. In reality, we were finding it difficult to create chances and Martial didn't see much of the ball in the CF position so it was a good decision to start playing him on the wings where he saw more of the ball and his dribbling cause a lot of problems for the opposition. He didn't stop playing as CF because he was terrible there(he was arguably as good there) but it was because we needed him more on the wings. I remember everything very clearly so this you saying that his cameos as a CF didn't yield positives is revisionism and i'm not surprised you had to resort to that. It's so easy to tell the truth when you do away with emotions. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 5:27pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1:in which games did he okay as CF and scored? let me know sir? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 5:31pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: Nope! He played on the left in his first game vs Liverpool and was very impressive. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 5:36pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
lekkie073:From my head easily, he played as CF against Southhampton scoring 2 goals in the league. Diademk07:Martial didn't start that Liverpool game and he when he was substituted in Young was playing as winger so i doubt he was told to play on the left. He only started the move that lead to his goal from the left and it's silly to say he was played on the left due to that. If you think he was played on the left vs Liverpool and had a good game, then why didn't LVG play him on the left again vs Southhampton which was the next match? He was played as a CF vs Southhampton and he scored 2 goals there again so it's more likely LVG placed him as a CF vs Liverpool. Telling the truth isn't really your forte. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 5:42pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
GBR1: Dadehmola: That was my very 1st post on the issue & I have backed it up with excerpts from 4 different newspapers - the cluelessness of the English media is a debate for another day & you are free to criticize whichever newspaper you deem fit. The bottom line is that Pogba (from all indications), could be our highest paid player & since you have agreed, there's no point going back & forth on this issue. |
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