elampiro:


3-5-2 (3-4-1-2)is rubbish.The formation that was going to work well was 4-3-1-2

Di Maria and Herrera in the sides of the diamond midfield. Mata or Rooney in the hole. RVP with Falcao/Rooney in attack. The only problem was Blind in the DM. We played attractive football with this formation. The problem is Gaal not sticking to a working formation. He only needed a strong body to replace Blind in the DM position.

Khaytunechi:
J.Mourinho on Parker's comment on Rooney: "No
reaction. I am not paid to comment on the comments of people who are paid to comment."

Diademk07:


Cut it out already, Young was our creative player in the pre-season. When Rooney was supposed to be the SS in the pre-season, he was acting as the forward while putting the bulk on Welbeck; but with another true forward player in Rvp in front of the sluggish Rooney in the league, everything went into chaos.

You know what? The thing with Rooney is he's a forward but an average one pretending to be no 10/SS. Forget all his stupid pass to the wing as a SS. He knows as a forward, he's no elite and that why he loves disguising as a 10/SS behind another forward to divert any attention from himself, only to burst through and surprise the opposition to score goals.

The only time he looked good as an no 9 was when he was making long ball to Valencia on the wing while running forward to get the subsequent crosses from Valencia.
And that's why he was never and will never be the main man in any of our title win.

As for the 442 tactic, we were up against poor teams in most of the matches. Also, Madrid 1st half team wasn't a strong one.

You are very confused. Welbeck, Chicharito led the line against MK Dons with Kagawa playing behind them. What happened?


In our league matches against Burnley and Sunderland, Welbeck came on for RVP in both matches. How come nothing changed.

In terms of Rooney leading the line in 2009/2010, he was a co striker with Bervatov. We lost the league to a number of factors. Injury to Rooney in Munich which he never really recovered from till end of the season. The whole team was badly hit with injury too. SAF having to rest players against Chelsea in a crucial match and Drogba scored from a clear offside which decided the season.

Rooney is primariry number 10. That is where he has played most in his career and scored most of his goals like 2011/2012 when he played behind Chicharito and Welbeck. But he is not a number 10 like you want him to be. If he gains form this season, you will understand his kind of ten and how a number 10 can score plenty goals.

That Madrid match, there first half was there strongest line up based on fitness. Ronaldo only played the last 16 minutes and was giving the ball away.

Diademk07:


Lol at replacing Blind with a strong DM when he was the one that made us tick with his passing as soon as he was brought into the team.

Diademk07:



He wasn't nimble enough, agile nor defensive aware to be as good as Carrick in the role but his passing and vision were good in that role and was the major reason we looked good going forward, not because of any 442 tactics coupled with the fact that most of the teams we faced were thrash. Teams like QPR and a Westham team with lot of shite players in it.

Diademk07:


You still haven't told us the chances Rooney created in pre-season?

Diademk07:
Herrera winning the ball? he should have said fouling the opposition.

Spy360:

United have spent over £156millions on transfer already this season.

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elampiro:




You are very confused. Welbeck, Chicharito led the line against MK Dons with Kagawa playing behind them. What happened?


In our league matches against Burnley and Sunderland, Welbeck came on for RVP in both matches. How come nothing changed.

In terms of Rooney leading the line in 2009/2010, he was a co striker with Bervatov. We lost the league to a number of factors. Injury to Rooney in Munich which he never really recovered from till end of the season. The whole team was badly hit with injury too. SAF having to rest players against Chelsea in a crucial match and Drogba scored from a clear offside which decided the season.

Rooney is primariry number 10. That is where he has played most in his career and scored most of his goals like 2011/2012 when he played behind Chicharito and Welbeck. But he is not a number 10 like you want him to be. If he gains form this season, you will understand his kind of ten and how a number 10 can score plenty goals.

That Madrid match, there first half was there strongest line up based on fitness. Ronaldo only played the last 16 minutes and was giving the ball away.

Spy360:

United vs Grasshoppers would be EPIC

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Diademk07:
Lol at Mourinho picking Mata because he drift inside. Mikhi isn't capable of doing same, right?

Almost all his speeches are getting boring already.

Diademk07:


Look at our midfield and defence against Mkdons before mentioning the likes of Chicharito, Kagawa played Mkdons.

We had Micheal Keane (our worst player in the pre-season), Reece, half fit Evans, Vermijil in defence, a midfield combo of unfit Ando and Kagawa. Our wings had one Janko and Powell on it while Welbeck and Chicharito led the line. For crying out loud, they are not magicians.

We had nobody to create on the wing nor in the middle while our defence was also rubbish yet I recall Kagawa being our best player with his often forced playmaking through the middle until he got injured and everything fell apart as soon as he left..

As for Rooney, his best form was when he was leading the line to play long ball to Valencia while running forward to nod in the subsequent ball before he got injured. Fergie was constantly alternating between 442 or 433/451 setup and he predominantly used the latter setup in the CL and in big games. Rooney hardly created enough chances for Berbatov who was quite sluggish though.

elampiro:


He is a liability in the primary function of a DM. He cant shield the defense. He is even limited in his passing. His right foot is non existence, so he is forced to pass mostly to his left, which is why he over laboured Di Maria and got him tired in matches.

elampiro:


Worst teams than West Ham had to take points from us when we changed formation, and we were less attactive. Carrick for Blind, problem would have been solved, or buy a good DM in January.

elampiro:


When did you ask this question and do you expect me to have every detail in my head?

See this Assist from Rooney for Mata's goal against Roma. Remember, Rooney scored the other two goals in our 3-2 win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlF2-rEVIWQ

I remember I also told you his beautiful back hill pass towards the opening goal vs Madrid. I think it was beautiful exchange of pass between him and Fletcher then to Young for the goal.

elampiro:


See your shameful excuse for Welbeck, Chicharito and Kagawa against unknown MK Dons. A team not up to Okomu Oil.

Rooney's best scoring form came in two seasons. 2009/2010 when we played predominantly 4-4-2 and he paired with Bervatov. But we played a different formation in the UCL, mostly 4-3-3. Then his second scoring form was in 2011/2012 when we played 4-2-3-1 mostly with Rooney in the number 10 position. The number of matches we played 4-5-1 should not be up to five, and this was when we used Giggs, Park, Scholes, Carrick to control the midfield.

Diademk07:



Limited passes you say? You know why many people constantly overlooked Blind defensive errors to praise him in his first few matches for us? His visionary passes! His passes was quite good and you call it limited?




Why don't you check the Westham team that played us in the previous game? While I don't think Noble or Nolan are great players, they are respectable midfielders in the league and both were missing in the previous game. There was even Kouyate, the brute who was missing in the previous game as well.




You know I stated that it was only the Roma game he looked good but apart from this, which other games he created chances in the game. I'll make it easy by not asking about him assisting a goal but creating a good chance for his fellow forward, even if the chances were missed.

And stop mentioning any backheel here, that was no chance but him linking up play.

Diademk07:


Which excuse? You mean playing with about 7 shite players consisting of inexperienced shite kids in the team is an excuse? That's a real fact on the table.

More so, Kagawa already left the pitch before Alli started dominating us and he was our best player despite playing in a 2-man midfield before he got injured. It was after he left, Mkdons started scoring their goals.

Whatever you say, the fact is Rooney hardly scores nor create chance while pretending to be a no 10. All he does is to play long ball to Valencia while ghosting in to score from the subsequent cross. He's basically a fraud! Better still, a forward but an average one.

afrodoc2:

Can any babe save us from Elampiro-Diademk arguments the way that babe helped us get ride of Elampiro-Coogar arguments?

elampiro:


1. Blind is limited in passing compared to Carrick who uses both legs. This is why it is hard for Blind to switch the direction of play.

2. Excuse, Excuse, Excuse.

3. You didn't even know Rooney had an Assist against Roma. I provided it, now you ask for more. How do I remember the chances he created in pre-season games.

I remember I told you he was involved in our first goal against Madrid. Jones the centre back in there man defence passed to Valencia, Valencia to Fletcher who find Rooney who ran into attacking space. Rooney back hill intelligently to Fletcher.... It was a tikitaka move.

Rooney also scored in the final. He was voted best player of the tournament.

I don't get you.

elampiro:


Fake excuse. Find another. In the past we played weaker eleven against teams in Carling cup and FA cup and we were never disgraced. Even Moyes played Academy players and still won.

Secondly, Rooney score more from number than number 9. That is his stats. Even when he played behind RVP and Falcao he appeared going to outscore both of them combined until Gaal changed the formation.

bigkesh:

At least he won't let Jones take corner kicks

SailorXY:
it was around this period I started doubting LvG's sanity.

afrodoc2:


I gave up completely on LVG when i saw Young playing CF and Martial on the wing..........too smart for his own good with his useless philosophy.

afrodoc2:

I gave up completely on LVG when i saw Young playing CF and Martial on the wing..........too smart for his own good with his useless philosophy.

SailorXY:
it was around this period I started doubting LvG's sanity.