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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:26am On Nov 05, 2018
lekkie073:
the world class that I saw in juventus but u couldn't see in your calabash.

So u see, sometimes ur views are not the truth.
A player can be good and does badly while a player can as well be bad but have occasional good games. So sometimes you only choose to pick on the good games of players you like while always pick on the bad side of players you hate.

Yes or true?

Did I or did I not say he had potentials? My major problem was the price at the time when I thought we could have gotten players who could immediately impact on our midfield as Carrick was going.

Let’s understand the reason for argument.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:28am On Nov 05, 2018
And we also have to pray that he continues the form because he has only been world class in the past four or five matches.

He didn't start the season well, don't forget. But again I can forgive because he came from a world cup final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:37am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:


Did I or did I not say he had potentials? My major problem was the price at the time when I thought we could have gotten players who could immediately impact on our midfield as Carrick was going.

Let’s understand the reason for argument.
my friend, stop twisting. U were all out against pogba... price tag, poor form, waste of money etc.

Ur useless brain even made u type that he is not as good as Sunday oliseh. The Internet never forgets...


Now rate the same pogba now based on
Price tag
Form
Wasted money

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:39am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:
And we also have to pray that he continues the form because he has only been world class in the past four or five matches.

He didn't start the season well, don't forget. But again I can forgive because he came from a world cup final.
form and class are different. U can't be world class if u r not world class.... No matter your form!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:43am On Nov 05, 2018
lekkie073:
my friend, stop twisting. U were all out against pogba... price tag, poor form, waste of money etc.

Ur useless brain even made u type that he is not as good as Sunday oliseh. The Internet never forgets...


Now rate the same pogba now based on
Price tag
Form
Wasted money

I always knew your head is big for nothing.

Pogba is world class in 3 matches from Juventus match in UCL to yesterday doesnt make him world class.

He has to be world class for two seasons to be world class. You maggot infested brain. You know nothing.

Sanchez is more world class than Pogba, so we should wait for 3 years before a world class should hit the ground running? Are you well at all? Did Mbappe, Neymar wait for 3 years to start showing signs of world class.


YOU NO KNOW BALL.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:45am On Nov 05, 2018
lekkie073:
form and class are different. U can't be world class if u r not world class.... No matter your form!

Yes we cannot object Sanchez too because he is world class. We must wait for 3 years for his form to match his world class status.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:52am On Nov 05, 2018
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:58am On Nov 05, 2018
LMAO grin grin grin.

I'm tired of you guys...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Unlimited22: 10:00am On Nov 05, 2018
elrony:
LMAO grin grin grin.

I'm tired of you guys...
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 10:02am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:


I always knew your head is big for nothing.

Pogba is world class in 3 matches from Juventus match in UCL to yesterday doesnt make him world class.

He has to be world class for two seasons to be world class. You maggot infested brain. You know nothing.

Sanchez is more world class than Pogba, so we should wait for 3 years before a world class should hit the ground running? Are you well at all? Did Mbappe, Neymar wait for 3 years to start showing signs of world class.


YOU NO KNOW BALL.
there you go again with stupid nuances.
Class is class
World CLASS! not world FORM!
If you are in primary 4, but u r not performing as expected, a brilliant primary 3 child may be more appreciated than you.
But at the end of it all, You are in primary 4(class) but not performing(poor form) while the other child is in primary 3(class) but performing (form)
Pogba is world class
Sanches is world class
These guys have showed themselves not in a single team but in more than two teams.
Pogba... From potentials in manutd to juventus to France..
Sanches.... From potentials in udinese to Barcelona, to arsenal to Chile.

It they are on poor form, does that mea they were never as good as people portrayed them or what?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:49am On Nov 05, 2018
Watching in 3D sipping on my hen dawg. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:52am On Nov 05, 2018
Talsima:
Lekkie073

What do you have to say about this high fee for Pogba, assuming everything we are reading is true?

This was what I asked you about Pogba. I am trying to find out where I wrote him off.

At somewhere else I also asked you his performance in Serie A based on the fact that I don't follow that league. You said it was a good buy, then I told you that I will follow your stance.

But when Pogba was performing poorly on his arrival, I called you that you should come explain. You replied with insults and even removed your head from the initial recommendation.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:55am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:
The Reasoning Behind United's World Record Move for Pogba

by Miguel Delaney at Wednesday, Jul 27 2016

After the latest talks with Manchester United about Paul Pogba, Juventus were still completely unmoving on their asking price of €120m - with all representative fees to be thrown on top of that too - and it’s a figure that’s still a little hard to get your head around.

It’s all the more difficult to comprehend if you solely consider the player’s performances at Euro 2016. With Pogba taking centre stage of a tournament his own country were hosting, expectation had almost built to the point that he was expected to emulate Zinedine Zidane and deliver the trophy with definitive individual displays, just as the midfield maestro managed in 1998.

That didn’t happen. In fact, Pogba didn’t make much happen at all. He obviously wasn’t the complete flop that some seem to be arguing, but he was just quiet, only ever showing the odd flash of that obvious talent. Pogba often seemed constrained by his position, in fact, but that might be the key to comprehending why it is not quite so utterly ludicrous to paying so much for what is mostly potential.

As gradually became clearer throughout Euro 2016 and was made painfully apparent in the final, Didier Deschamps never figured out how to properly use the 23-year-old’s abilities, and ended up just awkwardly fitting him into very fixed roles rather than looking to integrate the player into a fluid midfield that released him. The defeat to Portugal was the nadir, as it was like Pogba had been ordered not to leave the centre circle. This just wasn’t the best use of his quality.

It was, however, very like some of Steven Gerrard’s most frustrating displays for Liverpool and England; when he was being shoe-horned into a position that didn’t fully suit his excellence. It was one of the most persistent issues with Gerrard’s otherwise brilliant career, and could yet be a defining one for Pogba’s nascent career.

Because of the way the long-legged French star combines exhilarating physical power with supreme technical ability, but so often seems shackled and subdued by roles that require more tactical discipline, the comparisons with the Liverpool legend come easy. Finding exactly the right position to fully maximise his quality isn’t so easy, as Deschamps found, but Mourinho may well have a solution.

He certainly had a clear role in mind for Gerrard at Chelsea in 2005, explaining why he was so keen to sign the English midfielder that summer, and it’s equally difficult not to think he has the same thing in mind for Pogba. There was an instructive press conference with Mourinho at Chelsea last season, even if he was talking about playmakers, as so many traits seemed applicable to the French international.

“I like a number 10 to score goals. I like a number 10 to get in the box. I like a number 10 to score Oscar goal against Maccabi. A number 10 for me is an eight-and-a-half when the team loses the ball, and the number 10 is a nine-and-a-half when the team has the ball.”

The point here isn’t that Pogba would necessarily play number-10, although that can’t be ruled out. The point is Mourinho’s emphasis on movement, on power. They are characteristics United’s mostly turgid midfield need above anything, and they are what Pogba provides in abundance.

At Juve last season, he dribbled 2.9 times per game - the third most in Serie A - and that was more than anyone at Mourinho’s 2014/15 Chelsea title-winning team, bar Eden Hazard at 4.9. He also offered more interceptions than anyone in that midfield, with 1.3 per game, except Nemanja Matic on two. Pogba will also regularly try his luck from distance, with 3.5 shots per match.

Even though Mourinho does have alternative options, it’s still likely he has very specific position in mind for Pogba’s very specific abilities. He really could be key in that sense. United just have to unlock negotiations - or go all in.

The money could be truly preposterous, but the reality is it already always some way ludicrous. When you have as many commercial deals as United do, does £20m really make that much of a difference, given it’s a player so desired? Failure to get him could make a real difference to their approach and that is something else United have to get their heads around.

https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/xny8asd4v0seujn3vfervq/Show/The-Reasoning-Behind-Uniteds-World-Record-Move-for-Pogba

Meanwhile look at the statistics I brought out about Pogba trying to say we should go for him.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:00am On Nov 05, 2018
Talsima:

#BREAKING Paul Pogba has just landed in Los Angeles and will have his Manchester United medical.

[via @francefootball @Europe1 @lequipe21]

I was the one giving update about the coming of Pogba.

I am yet to see where I said bad things about his coming.

Lekkie073, I don't understand where you are coming from.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02am On Nov 05, 2018
It looks like I even strongly recommend Pogba more than this Lekkie073 who is now doing ITK grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:14am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:
It looks like I even strongly recommend Pogba more than this Lekkie073 who is now doing ITK grin
need I remind you of this

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:16am On Nov 05, 2018
Did u really believe in him?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:25am On Nov 05, 2018
lekkie073:
need I remind you of this

Yes, that was what I saw him doing in the Champions League. That post was July 1st 2016.

After looking at his stats, I was more favourable towards him and even backed your stance.

But let me also show you something. Wait
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:29am On Nov 05, 2018
You see people were asking questions because they were not convinced. Not many watch Italian league.

But ask yourself, since 2016, how has Pogba performed compared to the players the guy here listed?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:29am On Nov 05, 2018
You are nothing but a pathological liar

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:32am On Nov 05, 2018
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:41am On Nov 05, 2018
lekkie073:
You are nothing but a pathological liar

I am not Chrisley024. Those are Chrisley024 posts.

Your last screenshot confirmed that I agreed to support you on Pogba.

You see? grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:43am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:
You see people were asking questions because they were not convinced. Not many watch Italian league.

But ask yourself, since 2016, how has Pogba performed compared to the players the guy here listed?
has veratti scored the number of goals pogba scored?

And u should ask yourself, is sanchez the same one that played in barca and arsenal?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:43am On Nov 05, 2018
The guy think say I am also Chrisley024.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:45am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:


I am not Chrisley024. Those are Chrisley024 posts.

Your last screenshot confirmed that I agreed to support you on Pogba.

You see? grin grin grin
so how come u said u supported pogba better than me.

You that was already comparing pogba with ur village brother oliseh even before pogba kicked a single ball for united when he was bought?

The Internet doesn't forget bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:46am On Nov 05, 2018
lekkie073:
has veratti scored the number of goals pogba scored?

And u should ask yourself, is sanchez the same one that played in barca and arsenal?

Has he lived up to Kroos and Kante in the last two years? Did you not see Kante and Kroos in your comment of 2016?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:48am On Nov 05, 2018
Ajigbijigbijigbi

HAVE A NICE DAY

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:51am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:


Has he lived up to Kroos and Kante in the last two years? Did you not see Kante and Kroos in your comment of 2016?
did Kroos win the last World Cup? Or Kroos scored more league goals than pogba?
Has Kante scored more?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:53am On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:
Ajigbijigbijigbi

HAVE A NICE DAY

that was a sarcastic comment to a brainless shekpe supporter.

U r always trying hard to make sense. Most times u don't...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 12:00pm On Nov 05, 2018
elampiro:
It looks like I even strongly recommend Pogba more than this Lekkie073 who is now doing ITK grin
anytime u discus pogba here, remember I recommended him when your calabash was still telling you that oliseh is better than pogba...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by HanksAnuku: 1:41pm On Nov 05, 2018
Mikel better than Pogba?

Sunday Oliseh better than Pogba?

So Scummies can still tell the truth? Alhamdulillah!

Meanwhile since we're compiling a list of Naija cms better than Pogba...how about Etebo and Ndidi?

Even Razor Ramon Azeez

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:02pm On Nov 05, 2018
If Oliseh were from South America or Europe, he would have been rated far higher because he was a great DM on the field of play picking long range passes deep in his half, breaking down attacks easily and fast in movement. Instrumental in winning Afcon in his first attempt for Eagles. Won the Olympics for a small football country like Nigeria. Won the league in Netherlands and Germany.

Abeg shift with your argument. You did not recommend Pogba more than I. My concerns about him were spot on because players of his signing fees at the time hit the ground running.
......

My own now. I don dey see how we go take get result in Turin.

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