United agree van Persie deal
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Aug/manchester-united-agree-deal-for-robin-van-persie.aspx

ogbeche77: United agree van Persie deal
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Aug/manchester-united-agree-deal-for-robin-van-persie.aspx

But in all honesty, do we really need this dude

we don't need him. it's an opportunistic acquisition. if casillas/buffon were to become available for £10m tonight,
i would expect man utd to make a bid not because we desperately need a goalie but because it's a discount bargain.
do you not go to the store and buy something off your shopping list because you saw it as a bargain? that's what van persie
has become - a christmas bonanza!

rooney, chicharito and berbatov all died on the titanic 100 yrs ago.
berbatov(golden boot winner of the penultimate season), rooney(2nd highest goal scorer of the league last season)!!
who is van persie?

1st?

Rooney plays #10 ostensibly, Berbatov is a ghost and Hernandez and Welbeck are pants. Unless Fergie is planning on switching to 4-2-3-1 with Kagawa behind Rooney.

he is the cheapest striker in the premier league @ £20m!

Rephrase: "we can't afford RvP's transfer fee/WAGES + the left-back and CM we so desperately crave"

ogbeche77: United agree van Persie deal
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Aug/manchester-united-agree-deal-for-robin-van-persie.aspx

shit jst gat real ....walai dis 1 no b play ooo

I really dont know what to say about this RvP issue.
It is a good addition as it will make us stronger but it's not really what we need at this time.
I'm happy with it but not overly excited...and the look on Arsenal's fans faces though - that would be priceless.

Oh well, we sold Silvestre to Arsenal without any argument.

As it is, HE'll make us stronger without a doubt but I still think the right type midfielder would be better for us.

Also, his age and injury record isnt great. So Im a little nervous about this transfer as I know we wont be signing anyone else so we've essentially put all our eggs in a RVP shaped basket.

It's a sad day to be a fan of United.
When we resort to buying injury-prone players who are nearly 30 years.
Fergie is slowly losing it.
On the other hand, I'm glad we're not paying anything around the £30 million that Wenger was holding out for

I am dissapointed in United for making this deal.

Van persie is a luxury signing it doesnt address your immediate needs. is Goal scoring Man Utds problem?

Where does that leave Rooney, kagawa, Welbeck, Chicharito and berbatov?

I other news E belike say bayern don sign Javi martinez ooo.

Na Dayokanu dey yarn

Javi Martinez was one player I thought would have made a difference in our middle.Rhe boy is an excellent midfielder and a future world star.
I woulda thought Fergie would court the boy like a ho in a red-light district.Apparently he feels the midfield as it is is ok.

StarBoard: Javi Martinez was one player I thought would have made a difference in our middle.Rhe boy is an excellent midfielder and a future world star.
I woulda thought Fergie would court the boy like a ho in a red-light district.Apparently he feels the midfield as it is is ok.

I agree 100%

StarBoard: It's a sad day to be a fan of United.
When we resort to buying injury-prone players who are nearly 30 years.
Fergie is slowly losing it.
On the other hand, I'm glad we're not paying anything around the £30 million that Wenger was holding out for

Consoling yourself eh? Wenger wasn't holding out for more than £25m, with any figure above £20m being a good deal for Arsenal.

I hope he brings his injury prone nature to the theatre of divers.

I am hoping we haven't paid more than 20m for a 29 y/o player in the last year of his contract. not to mention the accompanying big contract he will receive. on the whole I have mixed feelings. no doubt rvp adds a significant weapon to our squad. but this is clearly a luxury signing. and I can't help but feel the outlay we will put down for this signing will have consequences for other more pressing areas of need in the immediate future.

I really hope I am wrong, but we saw the same after we picked up Berba in 09. all of a sudden it was claims of no value until last summer.

Its now supposed to be £15m upfront with £7m addons for RVP.

^ if thats true, then its a good deal. so long as the 7m add-ons aren't guaranteed but dependent on appearances, team success e.t.c.

ritchboy:
Rooney plays #10 ostensibly, Berbatov is a ghost and Hernandez and Welbeck are pants. Unless Fergie is planning on switching to 4-2-3-1 with Kagawa behind Rooney.

rooney can play as a centre forward - he once scored 34 goals playing in that position with berbatov playing behind him in 09/10 season. he could also play just behind a centre forward and score plenty of goals like he did last season - so why do we need van persie?
the number of goals united scored last season should tell you we don't need van persie but then he's available - as a big club, i expect us to be acquiring quality players if they become available...

Rephrase: "we can't afford RvP's transfer fee/WAGES + the left-back and CM we so desperately crave"

can we afford him now? ritchboy - talk now or cat got your tongue?

at least in van persie is not a diver so with or without howard webb, united can put up a fight especially now that all eyes are on howard webb.

Well i'm not too optimistic about this tranfer. I feel we have more pressing issues at this point and buying a VanPersie is just way off. I seriously hope someone proves me wrong though.
PS: where does this leave Javier Hernandez? I assume he moves further down the pecking order.

darefestus: Well i'm not too optimistic about this tranfer. I feel we have more pressing issues at this point and buying a VanPersie is just way off. I seriously hope someone proves me wrong though.
PS: where does this leave Javier Hernandez? I assume he moves further down the pecking order.

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chicharito needs to step up his game cos fergie will be less patient with him than he has bin wit welbeck.one reason is cos welbeck is a lil younger and 2nd reason is cos welbeck is united bred n english.hernandez is probably 4th choice striker now IMO

darefestus: Well i'm not too optimistic about this tranfer. I feel we have more pressing issues at this point and buying a VanPersie is just way off. I seriously hope someone proves me wrong though.
PS: where does this leave Javier Hernandez? I assume he moves further down the pecking order.

there are enough games to go round.....rooney is injury prone.
welbeck is also injury prone same as hernandez and van persie has glass legs.
let's just assume van persie has replaced michael owen. fergie is out for the treble/quadruple this term.

montelik: ^ if thats true, then its a good deal. so long as the 7m add-ons aren't guaranteed but dependent on appearances, team success e.t.c.

BBC reports 22.5m upfront and 1.5m in add ons if you win the EPL in the next four years.

Mr_TA: As it is, HE'll make us stronger without a doubt but I still think the right type midfielder would be better for us.

Also, his age and injury record isnt great. So Im a little nervous about this transfer as I know we wont be signing anyone else so we've essentially put all our eggs in a RVP shaped basket.

did you see tom cleverley raping the italian midfielders tonight? is there a limit to what tom cleverley can become if he remains fit?
he was supremely outstanding. he murdered de rossi throughout and the media is waxing lyrical about him as we speak.
we don't need a new central midfielder if cleverley can give us 34 league appearances this new season - trust me!

@coogar,
Don't you think Llorente would have been a better addition to the squad?
Bandy-legged,biscuit-boned limbs is almost a liability.
If you must replace Owen, must it be with a direct substitution in terms of worth?

coogar: can we afford him now? ritchboy - talk now or cat got your tongue?

Pay attention. . . "I" never said United can't afford him. I was saying United fans seem to think his arrival means they won't get a new LB + CM.

I'm curios though, how many years contract/how much basic salary? I'm hearing 4years @ 190k p/w!!!

Curious about Fergie's transfer dealings this summer aside from Kagawa.
Nick Powell was a third-tier striker whom he hopes to convert to a central midfielder.
Now van Persie when we already have a plethora of strikers who can be effective if given necessary midfield service.Assuming I go with the logic that we don't need anyone in our middle.
I woulda thought that with an impending punishment for Rio,injuries to Evans, Jones and Smalling, some kind of defensive cover would suffice.Oh I forgot, Mr reliable Carrick is there to fill in the gap till the wounded return.
I would thought the obvious weak link in defence (Patrice Evra at LB) would have been addressed and he (Evra) be made to face competition of any sort to put him out of his complacent state.
I woulda thought that the right back slot would also be addressed to given how error-prone and hot-headed Rafael is and Phil Jones isn't a natural there, even if he's not available for now.
For those of us who think the van Persie signing strengthens us, think again.We tossed out Owen and brought in RvP.Like-for-like if you ask me:Mercenary, injury-prone and over-rated at this stage of their careers.

@Starboad
Its obvious u havent heard the phrase 'no quality in the market'. I dont know wat to think of Fergie again, maybe he hates midfielders after the Hagreaves betrayal.

^^^
You could be right. . .but I'm also talking defenders here

Fergie has already said he wont be getting a DM, he said he'd never had one and not looking to get one.
No wonder . . .I've always felt if he really wanted one, he would have bought one.

I'm not talking about DM's here, chamo. A DM wouldnt fit into our system cuz our 2 midfielders shld be mobile and not just break play. I honestly think we need a Keano type player going into the new season but people like Coogar are always happy to remind us of Anderson, Fletcher and Clevs when even Fergie knows they wont last the season. As for defenders, we can cut Fergie some slack, Giggsy and Evans can act as cover for Evra.

I myself don't feel we need a straight defensive midfielder, but we could use another central midfielder. lets face it we are going into a 3 prong attack season (ucl,epl,cups), relying on the likes of Scholes and Giggs to make a serious contribution. a few years ago the excuse was hargo would recover, ando would turn world class and we had a good crop of prospects. since then hargo is gone, fletcher has developed his own health concerns, gibson didn't pan out, ravel morrison "skosko" proved too much for united, pogba did a number on us like he did le havre, ando is still an enigma. only positive has been the potential emergence of Cleverley. Kagawa is no more a central midfielder than Rooney.

We are taking a significant risk going into the season with our present midfield contigent, it can't be denied. if we don't have casualties we will be fine, but its a long hectic season with 2 players on the wrong side of 30 and others with questionmarks, there will be injuries. it will be up to the stronger facets to carry a weak central area.

darefestus: I'm not talking about DM's here, chamo. A DM wouldnt fit into our system cuz our 2 midfielders shld be mobile and not just break play. I honestly think we need a Keano type player going into the new season but people like Coogar are always happy to remind us of Anderson, Fletcher and Clevs when even Fergie knows they wont last the season. As for defenders, we can cut Fergie some slack, Giggsy and Evans can act as cover for Evra.

I'm more worried about our defence than attack.
We conceded far too many goals by our standards last season, mostly as a result of the gaping hole in our midfield.
The way teams were slicing our defence open was a disgrace especially at OT.

A lot of teams got at our defence really easy which cost us some games/points

@Chamo
It depends on which way you look at it. We cld have also scored shit load of goals, we were not really ruthless in some games. Nevertheless, The defence for me isnt really a concern (maybe LB, but that is about it). With the return of Vidic, we are sorted at the back me thinks.