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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:51pm On Mar 19, 2021
Leyqute:


This means United have had 5 managers in the last 9 years (Nwoyes, LvG, Giggs, Mou, Ole) - an average of a maneja each season and a half. Approx. or 1 maneja in 2 sissins

By your logic, United actually have been hiring and firing.

Wonder where Ed kept the league trophy he’s won by doing so.

Imlimitable hope say your eye no skip this post?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:51pm On Mar 19, 2021
handelex:
Because he gives shit passes, lacks proper ball control and loses the ball in dangerous places angry
Because of 2 or 3 bad passes? Which almost the whole team does more than him sef?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 9:52pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


Stop with the epistle.

Did management change hands or not? Why and how they changed hands are irrelevant. The most important issue is they were changed and new ones were hired.

Mourinho/Hiddink names appearing more than once are irrelevant. The fact of the matter is there was a change and a previous manager got sacked.

Oga if a manager is sacked and none is employed immediately the assistant takes over till maybe ending of the season

How is that employing and sacking manager to fit you talk

Oga drop this one e no rythme abeg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:52pm On Mar 19, 2021
patrickmuf:
Handelex understands what I'm on about...

Okay chief
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:52pm On Mar 19, 2021
patrickmuf:
Most times your criticism of Ole is after games when your emotion is prolly running high but when the dust settles, you're back to defending him...

It's only Afrodoc2 that has managed to balance his argument here irrespective of our performances...

Ok bro.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:52pm On Mar 19, 2021
KingAlabi:


Oga if a manager is sacked and none is employed immediately the assistant takes over till maybe ending of the season

How is that employing and sacking manager to fit you talk

Oga drop this one e no rythme abeg

grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:53pm On Mar 19, 2021
Leyqute:


LooL. Eddie Newton was ‘in charge’ for 2 days pere- 18 to 20 Dec 2015. Another one was in charge only for like 10 days in February.

Illimi says we must accept those ones as manejas too. cheesy
E be things.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 9:53pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


So you are suggesting United didn’t pay Giggs any salary while he was interim or there was no contract drawn & signed to give him the job?

There’s no difference between caretakers and real managers. It’s the same job - a contract is drawn out and salary is paid.

Gawd!!!!!!!!!!! grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 9:55pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


Ole & Giggs were also once caretaker managers.

Ole got the job, Giggs didn’t. If you are good at your job, you would retain it.

Gbam

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:56pm On Mar 19, 2021
Leyqute:


This means United have had 5 managers in the last 9 years (Nwoyes, LvG, Giggs, Mou, Ole) - an average of a maneja each season and a half. Approx. or 1 maneja in 2 sissins

By your logic, United actually have been hiring and firing.

Wonder where Ed kept the league trophy he’s won by doing so.

It’s not enough.

5 managers in 9 is not the same as 16 managers in 15 years.

Wenger left 5 years after SAF retired and they have hired 3 managers since then. How’s 5 managers in 9 years hiring and firing when no league title has been won in the same period?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:59pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


It’s not enough.

5 managers in 9 is not the same as 16 managers in 15 years.

Wenger left 5 years after SAF retired and they have hired 3 managers since then. How’s 5 managers in 9 years hiring and firing when no league title has been won in the same period?

Oh. Sorry. League title must be involved. I didn’t see that coming.

So, if a maneja is hired, wins the league title and is then subsequently fired, that is hiring and firing ?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:00pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


So you are suggesting United didn’t pay Giggs any salary while he was interim or there was no contract drawn & signed to give him the job?

There’s no difference between caretakers and real managers. It’s the same job - a contract is drawn out and salary is paid.
Lol Giggs was still a player then and United never renegotiated any salary with him. He was being paid his normal salary as a player.

If you say there's no difference between caretakers and main managers, then all these conversations about Ole won't be happening. Die this matter.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:01pm On Mar 19, 2021
KingAlabi:

Oga if a manager is sacked and none is employed immediately the assistant takes over till maybe ending of the season

How is that employing and sacking manager to fit you talk

Oga drop this one e no rythme abeg

You are talking rubbish(as usual).

Was there a change in management or not? If there’s a change in management, why was it changed? Can you be sacked if you are meeting your goals?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:03pm On Mar 19, 2021
Leyqute:


Oh. Sorry. League title must be involved. I didn’t see that coming.

So, if a maneja is hired, wins the league title and is then subsequently fired, that is hiring and firing ?

It’s hiring & firing if he did not complete the contract he was given when he was given the job.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:03pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


It’s not enough.

5 managers in 9 is not the same as 16 managers in 15 years.

Wenger left 5 years after SAF retired and they have hired 3 managers since then. How’s 5 managers in 9 years hiring and firing when no league title has been won in the same period?

Actually it’s 5 manejas in 7 years. 1 maneja pa sissin approx

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:04pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


It’s hiring & firing if he did not complete the contract he was given when he was given the job.

So how many United manejas have run down their contract since Fergie left?

The way wey you Dey run this argument, e don Dey choke you
grin cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:05pm On Mar 19, 2021
eph12:

Because of 2 or 3 bad passes? Which almost the whole team does more than him sef?
We can go on and on and on, Fred will still be an activity forming midfielder with average at best quality on the ball angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 10:07pm On Mar 19, 2021
KingAlabi:


Make him use im previous records enter top 4 na cheesy

Abi e no fit find am again? grin

Very soon we go look am as normal as ancelotti cheesy

Put a respect on ancelotti's name. Ole won't last an hour coaching everton.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:08pm On Mar 19, 2021
grin grin grin grin

Vayolence in the camp of the enemy.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:09pm On Mar 19, 2021
Leyqute:


Actually it’s 5 manejas in 7 years. 1 maneja pa sissin approx

It’s 5 managers in 8 years.

Fergie left in May 2013, we are already in March 2021.

2 months away from 8 years is 8 years.

It’s still not enough for a giant club fighting to claw back their glory.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:13pm On Mar 19, 2021
Leyqute:

So how many United manejas have run down their contract since Fergie left?

The way wey you Dey run this argument, e don Dey choke you
grin cheesy grin

You are missing the point.

It’s not so much about if they run down their contract but how soon the hammer slams on their head.

Solskjaer would clock 3 years in December in what has been a disastrous managerial role.

In those 2 years, no trophy has been won. He’s not achieved any of what his last 2 predecessors did. He has 2 chances left in Europa & FA cup.

If he fails to win those, then he would have achieved nothing by the time he completes his first 3 years cos you cannot win any trophy between the end of this season and December.

So why is he still at the job?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:24pm On Mar 19, 2021
https://twitter.com/officialsujal10/status/1372812033368891392?s=21

Ibrahimovic reiterating what I said some weeks back - the current team is better than Mourinho’s team but they are performing worse.

KingAlabi said it’s a contradiction to say this team is better than Mou’s team but performing worse than Mou’s team.

KingAlabi, this is your one & only opportunity to tender a public apology to me.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:49pm On Mar 19, 2021
I don’t know why these guys don’t wanna agree that we have the squad, maybe we need to add a couple of players which is a normal stuff (annually, clubs buy players), but then, this squad will do wonders with proper management.

OGS has bought 7 players already (Telles, Bruno, Magwaya, AWB, VDB, James, Amad) and he got Cavani and Ighalo on loan. That’s 9 players without a trophy.

Ridiculous! Be like say all of us dey ment for here sha? If na another manager, una for don crucify am o, this shyte is unfair!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:50pm On Mar 19, 2021
handelex:
We can go on and on and on, Fred will still be an activity forming midfielder with average at best quality on the ball angry
You no know ball finally
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:04pm On Mar 19, 2021
nitrogen:
I don’t know why these guys don’t wanna agree that we have the squad, maybe we need to add a couple of players which is a normal stuff (annually, clubs buy players), but then, this squad will do wonders with proper management.

OGS has bought 7 players already (Telles, Bruno, Magwaya, AWB, VDB, James, Amad) and he got Cavani and Ighalo on loan. That’s 9 players without a trophy.

Ridiculous! Be like say all of us dey ment for here sha? If na another manager, una for don crucify am o, this shyte is unfair!

I will continue to reiterate that the Glazers aren’t interested in winning the PL.

It’s not like they don’t know what quality of players to buy to achieve the PL title but the amount of money it would cost them isn’t worth the prize money.

The Glazers didn’t hesitate to sign Tom Brady to their NFL club. Tom Brady is like the Ronaldo/Messi of NFL in the US & guess what? Tampa Bay Buccaneers instantly won the Super Bowl after Brady was signed.

It’s the equivalent of signing Messi or Ronaldo in 2016 circa. Signing AWB, James, Amad, Maguire is a smoke screen to make them appear that they care - but they don’t.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:35pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


I will continue to reiterate that the Glazers aren’t interested in winning the PL.

It’s not like they don’t know what quality of players to buy to achieve the PL title but the amount of money it would cost them isn’t worth the prize money.

The Glazers didn’t hesitate to sign Tom Brady to their NFL club. Tom Brady is like the Ronaldo/Messi of NFL in the US & guess what? Tampa Bay Buccaneers instantly won the Super Bowl after Brady was signed.

It’s the equivalent of signing Messi or Ronaldo in 2016 circa. Signing AWB, James, Amad, Maguire is a smoke screen to make them appear that they care - but they don’t.

They have bought mercenaries in the past, so, don’t tell me they don’t care. It’s not their fault that we buy players at crazy prices. Also, the managers were fine with the acquisitions, post approvals, Woodie and co went to the market to buy players at any cost.

I would agree with you if you say that the recruiting system needs to change, maybe they need to define a system of play, buy players that fit the system, and then hire managers that can marry both (players and the system) to achieve success.

The Glazers have spent a lot since Fergie resigned, and they will continue to spend. Only City has spent more than us, and the difference is not significant. But Chelsea, Liverpool have enjoyed more successes (bar City).

Now, to the matter on ground, if we don’t find a way to get OGS to win trophies now, and we don’t sack him by end of the season, the guy may not win anything for United until 2023/2024 after he would have spent over 800m. Unfortunately, we would have lost relevance by then. We need to continue to sack and hire for trophies, Chelsea, Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern are examples of club that keep churning our results with the ‘hire and fire’ model.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:45pm On Mar 19, 2021
nitrogen:


They have bought mercenaries in the past, so, don’t tell me they don’t care. It’s not their fault that we buy players at crazy prices. Also, the managers were fine with the acquisitions, post approvals, Woodie and co went to the market to buy players at any cost.

I would agree with you if you say that the recruiting system needs to change, maybe they need to define a system of play, buy players that fit the system, and then hire managers that can marry both (players and the system) to achieve success.

The Glazers have spent a lot since Fergie resigned, and they will continue to spend. Only City has spent more than us, and the difference is not significant. But Chelsea, Liverpool have enjoyed more successes (bar City).

Now, to the matter on ground, if we don’t find a way to get OGS to win trophies now, and we don’t sack him by end of the season, the guy may not win anything for United until 2023/2024 after he would have spent over 800m. Unfortunately, we would have lost relevance by then. We need to continue to sack and hire for trophies, Chelsea, Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern are examples of club that keep churning our results with the ‘hire and fire’ model.

They bought Tom Brady at Tampa Bay Buccaneers & won the Super Bowl instantly.

The equivalent of that is buying Ronaldo about 5 years ago to win the Champions League.

Anything short of that is not a comparable example. There’s a difference in buying a mercenary and buying the mercenary.

Buying the best player in the game is different from buying a bunch of mercenaries who aren’t in the top 5 players in Europe at any time in the last 20 years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:51pm On Mar 19, 2021
Illimitable:


They bought Tom Brady at Tampa Bay Buccaneers & won the Super Bowl instantly.

The equivalent of that is buying Ronaldo about 5 years ago to win the Champions League.

Anything short of that is not a comparable example. There’s a difference in buying a mercenary and buying the mercenary.

Buying the best player in the game is different from buying a bunch of mercenaries who aren’t in the top 5 players in Europe at any time in the last 20 years.

Okay, you want a top 5 player at Utd. Question is, Do City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. have top 5 players?

Meanwhile, tell me your top 5 players in Europe, and tell me how just one of them can help us win the EPL and UCL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:09am On Mar 20, 2021
nitrogen:


Okay, you want a top 5 player at Utd. Question is, Do City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. have top 5 players?

Meanwhile, tell me your top 5 players in Europe, and tell me how just one of them can help us win the EPL and UCL.

There you go again comparing Man Utd - arguably the richest club in Europe to upstarts.

Man Utd are arguably the richest club in Europe but the have the 10th best team in Europe - can you at make any sense out of that?

The way Bayern crush Bundesliga(expected to win the league title every year) is the way Man Utd should be crushing the Premier League. It was like that until the Glazers arrived.

Fergie being an elite manager covered their ass for 8 years but as soon as he was gone, the magic and the hunger to win the biggest prizes left with him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:30am On Mar 20, 2021
Joezinho:


Put a respect on ancelotti's name. Ole won't last an hour coaching everton.
Chia
Anything to bring oles name into the mix

Very soon mou will manage the likes of Villarreal and Aston villa grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:33am On Mar 20, 2021
Illimitable:


You are talking rubbish(as usual).

Was there a change in management or not? If there’s a change in management, why was it changed? Can you be sacked if you are meeting your goals?

Oga an assistant coach turns over from the coach till season end, he is not given any goals to meet because he will be replaced 95% of the time.

Take dortmund for example that has contracted Marcos rose already but the assistant coach is the one managing for the time being
So according to your okoto yarns, you will say terzic was hired and sacked ?

Nothing person no go see Sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:35am On Mar 20, 2021
Illimitable:
https://twitter.com/officialsujal10/status/1372812033368891392?s=21

Ibrahimovic reiterating what I said some weeks back - the current team is better than Mourinho’s team but they are performing worse.

KingAlabi said it’s a contradiction to say this team is better than Mou’s team but performing worse than Mou’s team.

KingAlabi, this is your one & only opportunity to tender a public apology to me.

So I should believe Ibrahimovic but not believe evra or Ferdinand grin grin
Which Kain wahala be this grin grin

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