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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by oluwaleokey: 5:40pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
If ur fund size is small 1naira -5m and u have time ,determination,dexterity then fixed income investements is not your...u better run /invest a sme , this will help your grow your capital ,skill,and knowledge faster... the owner of L AND Z DAIRY started like play play ..now the even imported bulls for milking from holland ...and earn from the entire value chain....there fresh milk is on shelfs of shorprites while production is done over 1000km away ....if c way water can generate money selling bottle water...funds for investments come from enterprise,salary,saving etc not the other way round....

Oga boss... i dey find the lnz yoghurt... its really scarce this time...of course i know the pandemic is the culprit... its out of stock... do you know if they are still producing?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 5:41pm On May 16, 2020
olujaidi:


The folks who move to Canada aren't moving because of lack of money. Indeed, some of the people who move have well paid jobs. There's just a sense of despair that a lot of people have in the future of Nigeria. You can have money and die due to medical negligence and no one gets punished. I'm not saying it doesn't happen outside Nigeria but there's a fair chance of restitution. A lot of people say they do it for their kids. Quality healthcare, education, security etc.
The bolded is not correct.
Lack of money is in levels.
Someone might have a good paying job here but it still can't afford him what a person in that social strata should have.
Eg a homebase engineer here might feel tokunbo vehicles are too old for him to drive,wants a brand new.
Can hos salary afford him that?
So in his mind,the chest thing to do is migrate.
So you see,it all boils down to money.
All that quality of life talk is just an alibi they create to make people feel they aren't migrating for money issues whereas they are.
If that quality of life thing was true,that you can just wake up one morning and die because you are in Nigeria,then a lot of rich Nigerians would have been running their businesses from overseas.
After all they can afford the living expenses and the technology is there to mitigate the effect of their absence.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:42pm On May 16, 2020
olujaidi:


The folks who move to Canada aren't moving because of lack of money. Indeed, some of the people who move have well paid jobs. There's just a sense of despair that a lot of people have in the future of Nigeria. You can have money and die due to medical negligence and no one gets punished. I'm not saying it doesn't happen outside Nigeria but there's a fair chance of restitution. A lot of people say they do it for their kids. Quality healthcare, education, security etc.



Different strokes for different people. The fish farmer shared his opinion, which he is entitled to and might be different from the opinion of another person.

He is right in his opinion, the other person who does not share his opinion is equally right.

That is why we are all wonderfully and differently made

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 5:43pm On May 16, 2020
olujaidi:


The folks who move to Canada aren't moving because of lack of money. Indeed, some of the people who move have well paid jobs. There's just a sense of despair that a lot of people have in the future of Nigeria. You can have money and die due to medical negligence and no one gets punished. I'm not saying it doesn't happen outside Nigeria but there's a fair chance of restitution. A lot of people say they do it for their kids. Quality healthcare, education, security etc.
sorry it just part of the conversation for educated youths under 40....not necessarily canada it might be us or uk..or Australia...canada is just current most popular with youths ......i saw a documentary of an iraqi surgeon who run a big practice in iraq driving uber to survive in canada ....i rather be the cheif medical director of reggiton hospital Lagos than be a cab diver in canda for a month.....notting go do my children for Najia if money dey

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 5:46pm On May 16, 2020
oluwaleokey:


Oga boss... i dey find the lnz yoghurt... its really scarce this time...of course i know the pandemic is the culprit... its out of stock... do you know if they are still producing?
i dont know the farm is in north so the lock down might affect it .....na house wife grow like that....woman are great being

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 5:48pm On May 16, 2020
Theconglomerate:
The bolded is not correct.
Lack of money is in levels.
Someone might have a good paying job here but it still can't afford him what a person in that social strata should have.
Eg a homebase engineer here might feel tokunbo vehicles are too old for him to drive,wants a brand new.
Can hos salary afford him that?
So in his mind,the chest thing to do is migrate.
So you see,it all boils down to money.
All that quality of life talk is just an alibi they create to make people feel they aren't migrating for money issues whereas they are.
If that quality of life thing was true,that you can just wake up one morning and die because you are in Nigeria,then a lot of rich Nigerians would have been running their businesses from overseas.
After all they can afford the living expenses and the technology is there to mitigate the effect of their absence.

Okay
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Burchester: 5:51pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
If ur fund size is small 1naira -5m and u have time ,determination,dexterity then fixed income investements is not your...u better run /invest a sme , this will help your grow your capital ,skill,and knowledge faster... the owner of L AND Z DAIRY started like play play ..now the even imported bulls for milking from holland ...and earn from the entire value chain....there fresh milk is on shelfs of shorprites while production is done over 1000km away ....if c way water can generate money selling bottle water...funds for investments come from enterprise,salary,saving etc not the other way round....
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 5:51pm On May 16, 2020
Theconglomerate:
The bolded is not correct.
Lack of money is in levels.
Someone might have a good paying job here but it still can't afford him what a person in that social strata should have.
Eg a homebase engineer here might feel tokunbo vehicles are too old for him to drive,wants a brand new.
Can hos salary afford him that?
So in his mind,the chest thing to do is migrate.
So you see,it all boils down to money.
All that quality of life talk is just an alibi they create to make people feel they aren't migrating for money issues whereas they are.
If that quality of life thing was true,that you can just wake up one morning and die because you are in Nigeria,then a lot of rich Nigerians would have been running their businesses from overseas.
After all they can afford the living expenses and the technology is there to mitigate the effect of their absence.
most Nigerian that migrated dont have better quality of life cos cant imagine moving from a deplux in wuse to a condo of 1000 dollars permonth as my life improving or moving from 34 degree to 0 degree or moving from a brand manager to an uber driver or security man or from eating natural organic Africa food to genetic foods or living according to my income to living on debt of 30 years....

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Topson88: 5:53pm On May 16, 2020
[quote author=emmanuelewumi post=89618121]



What is the size of your fund?

[/b]About x monthly for now which will likely increase to 2x overtime[b]

Why do you want to invest in Naira denominated investments?

[/b] Firstly, because i plan to return to Nigeria in my 60s and secondly ROI here is little besides i will have to pay about 50percent of any profit i make here as tax and NI unlike in Nigeria.[b]

Why the stock market?

[/b]A means of building a portfolio which pays me dividend when i retire [b]

Do you have any experience investing in the stock market?

[/b]Little experience gotten from reading through nsempa thread. [b]

If yes how long have you been investing in the stock market? [/b]Started buying last year august[[b]/quote]

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 5:53pm On May 16, 2020
olujaidi:


The folks who move to Canada aren't moving because of lack of money. Indeed, some of the people who move have well paid jobs. There's just a sense of despair that a lot of people have in the future of Nigeria. You can have money and die due to medical negligence and no one gets punished. I'm not saying it doesn't happen outside Nigeria but there's a fair chance of restitution. A lot of people say they do it for their kids. Quality healthcare, education, security etc.
very true
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 5:55pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
most Nigerian that migrated dont have better quality of life cos cant imagine moving from a deplux in wuse to a condo of 1000 dollars permonth as my life improving or moving from 34 degree to 0 degree or moving from a brand manager to an uber driver or security man or from eating natural organic Africa food to genetic foods or living according to my income to living on debt of 30 years....
Exactly.
Anytime I hear that "I am travelling to canada for quality of life" i just smh..
Nonsense concocted fallacy by people running out of options and money in Nigeria.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 5:57pm On May 16, 2020
GonFreecss1:



Thanks for this post. It was last year and last 2 years we had this argument with some people here. There were some “experts” with all sorts of theories here. Where are they now? 460 naira to a dollar later, they are nowhere to be found.

I kept saying insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
You really have sense. Same situation is playing all over again in their face but they keep asking funny questions. Tomorrow they start calculating the value their cash investment has lost.

People having "hope" in a country that the leaders driving the country has completely lost hope in. How does one explain why government would be declaring asset in USD and pounds? People like ganduje receiving bribe in USD? People like Atiku and other politicians sharing USD during campaign etc? These clearly shows these people don't believe so much in our Naira. They keep huge part of their funds in USD.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 6:00pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
sorry it just part of the conversation for educated youths under 40....not necessarily canada it might be us or uk..or Australia...canada is just current most popular with youths ......i saw a documentary of an iraqi surgeon who run a big practice in iraq driving uber to survive in canada ....i rather be the cheif medical director of reggiton hospital Lagos than be a cab diver in canda for a month.....notting go do my children for Najia if money dey
.

Nothing wrong with that. All I'm trying to say is that while money is important, it isn't always the sole motivation for migration.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pluto09(m): 6:00pm On May 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




Some speculators have not been able to break even from the losses they suffered about 2 years ago


Speculators who do follow, follow will always get burnt.
The best time to buy is before official devaluation. Anyone who is buying dollars now at N450 is taking uncalculated risk.

With about 15% in devaluation at the official rate, the chance of further adjustment is remote.
What will likely play out is a wide fluctuation in spread between the official and the parallel market rate until CBN is able to accumulate more dollars to meet our fx needs.

There are reports that fpi who want to repatriate the proceeds of their investment are trapped with CBN telling them to wait. That is not good enough for the country.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:02pm On May 16, 2020
Theconglomerate:
Exactly.
Anytime I hear that "I am travelling to canada for quality of life" i just smh..
Nonsense concocted fallacy by people running out of options and money in Nigeria.
cos i don't understand how a bank manger on 1m will resign and move to become a gaurd ...this madness i rather die in Lagos traffic...a cheif medical director a surgeoan that conduct over 1000 surgery now uber driver in canada for 5 years waiting for endless licence....with money u can affrord Harvard even from Nigeria ....mc olumo kids are graduating in America university.....is suppose to be for jobless and poorly paid under 40 Nigerians then migration is good ...

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kintus(m): 6:03pm On May 16, 2020
[quote author=ahiboilandgas post=89616582]u frist assignment is to read the tonnes of massages here and digist it ....this can fetch u a nairaland MBA[/quolte]

OKAY SIR.

I have been a silent follower and faithful disciple of this forum (lets say, 10months).

Even though I have read a lot, I still think it's not enough.

I'll keep reading as advised. Thank you Sir.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 6:08pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
most Nigerian that migrated dont have better quality of life cos cant imagine moving from a deplux in wuse to a condo of 1000 dollars permonth as my life improving or moving from 34 degree to 0 degree or moving from a brand manager to an uber driver or security man or from eating natural organic Africa food to genetic foods or living according to my income to living on debt of 30 years....

It's not always the case. Even if it were, the immigrant would have to work his/her way up. Its usually that way with first generation immigrants. They usually have to start afresh. It's the same story with the Asians

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:10pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
cos i don't understand how a bank manger on 1m will resign and move to become a gaurd ...this madness i rather die in Lagos traffic...a cheif medical director a surgeoan that conduct over 1000 surgery now uber driver in canada for 5 years waiting for endless licence....with money u can affrord Harvard even from Nigeria ....mc olumo kids are graduating in America university.....is suppose to be for jobless and poorly paid under 40 Nigerians then migration is good ...
You know when they lay them off at work with nowhere to go to for another employment and no business skills,they start coming up with all sorts of excuses on how Nigeria is meant to kill them.
Like say no be here them born them grin
Na maiguard be the quality of life they keep talking about I suppose grin
The highest you can ever be for there na nurse,that is if you travel at old age.So tell me,is that worth leaving a successful career for?
Mercy Johnson have like 6 kids all born in the US,why didn't she relocate there na,since she too want to give her kids quality of life.
All those things are poverty talking through frustrated people,no offense.
If tomato selling stops giving me food today,I will also come up with my own story too na so that they won't see me as failure.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 6:15pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
cos i don't understand how a bank manger on 1m will resign and move to become a gaurd ...this madness i rather die in Lagos traffic...a cheif medical director a surgeoan that conduct over 1000 surgery now uber driver in canada for 5 years waiting for endless licence....with money u can affrord Harvard even from Nigeria ....mc olumo kids are graduating in America university.....is suppose to be for jobless and poorly paid under 40 Nigerians then migration is good ...

Both environments have their pros and cons. There is struggle everywhere in the world. Having money in any environment makes life much more enjoyable

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:16pm On May 16, 2020
olujaidi:


It's not always the case. Even if it were, the immigrant would have to work his/her way up. Its usually that way with first generation immigrants. They usually have to start afresh. It's the same story with the Asians and Indians
but u are already up as a bank manager in zenith na to aspire to become executive director or m.d like them emefele....instead of moving down the ladder again start for oyinbo ladder as security man ....my biggest worry about Nigeria is the hopelessness ...millions of young graduates dont have jobs ,or any oppurntiies, then the education system is dead ( public schools ) then poor health care..life is tooo uncertain..graduates been paid 12k in primary school...i dont encourage this group to stay

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:20pm On May 16, 2020
olujaidi:


Both environments have their pros and cons. There is struggle everywhere in the world. Having money in any environment makes life much more enjoyable
if u got stable electricity,good healthcare system, relative security and low unemployement index (living wage ) Nigeria will be ok i think

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 6:23pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
if u got stable electricity,good healthcare system, relative security and low unemployement index (living wage ) Nigeria will be ok i think

Agreed.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:27pm On May 16, 2020
Example for 10 years i was using a particular first bank branch and a lady was incharge of transfers ....very dedicated but always looks sad ...we use to tip her but she look sad always....i went to the bank recently she was not on seat but a new staff what happen first bank refused to convert her to permant staff and have been on same pay for 8 years ....this type of situation then i will advice to migrate to start as a nursing assitant then work your way up

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pluto09(m): 6:28pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
if u got stable electricity,good healthcare system, relative security and low unemployement index (living wage ) Nigeria will be ok i think


For me the biggest problem is the level of insecurity.
My encounter with victims of kidnappers and armed robbers in recent times have changed my perception about Nigeria.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:35pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
Example for 10 years i was using a particular first bank branch and a lady was incharge of transfers ....very dedicated but always looks sad ...we use to tip her but she look sad always....i went to the bank recently she was not on seat but a new staff what happen first bank refused to convert her to permant staff and have been on same pay for 8 years ....this type of situation then i will advice to migrate to start as a nursing assitant then work your way up

If she is not a full staff after 8 years in first bank then it's 100% her fault and not of the bank.

The FBN conversion process from contract to core staff is one of the easiest in the industry.

There's a yearly conversion exam that she has to write and pass. The bank has also given them the grace of writing three times. If she writes the first time and fails, writes the second and third time and still failed, then she only has herself to blame.

Many others are writing and passing the same exam.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kintus(m): 6:36pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
why?when we carry kano for 855,000 naira for 45000 litre....300 k where is the profit are u joking or what ....trucks or j5 bus


I saw this and was meaning to ask for more details.

He has some explanations to do.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 6:40pm On May 16, 2020
kintus:



I saw this and was meaning to ask for more details.

He has some explanations to do.
grin grin grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:52pm On May 16, 2020
Can we go back to Investment opportunities in Nigeria.

Different strokes for different folks

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:59pm On May 16, 2020
[quote author=Topson88 post=89619198][/quote]


Not a bad idea, slow and steady wins the race.

Little drops of water make the big ocean. The journey of a thousand miles starts with a step.


You are already on the right track.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by chigo4u: 7:05pm On May 16, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
what is the use of dollars if not to defend the naira ,and provide reasonable fair exchange rate ...are we taking the reserve to haven..have u been to the dangote refinery? Is not the fertilizer section is complete and has employed 2000 people my relative got a nice position and has resumed on a 6m naira annually salary....we now produce 100 percent our fertilizer needs and indorama even exported excess last year...once we cut out all the major consumer of our dollars ....petrol ,cement ,fertilizer,flour,sugar, medical tourism, school fees ....it only equipment that will be imported why woudnt the naira stabilze
It’s ridiculous to say the use of dollar is to defend The Naira. I mean you are justifying wasting over $30b to defend The Naira since 2017? Lol.
Also what is the date of the take of Dangote refinery, I personally believe Dangote refinery will not solve Nigeria FX problems, I want to be proved wrong but I also do not see the refinery beginning operations anytime soon.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 7:16pm On May 16, 2020
chigo4u:

It’s ridiculous to say the use of dollar is to defend The Naira. I mean you are justifying wasting over $30b to defend The Naira since 2017? Lol.
Also what is the date of the take of Dangote refinery, I personally believe Dangote refinery will not solve Nigeria FX problems, I want to be proved wrong but I also do not see the refinery beginning operations anytime soon.
what isbthe use of dollars reserve?drive to the refinery in lekki is there
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 7:17pm On May 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




Some speculators have not been able to break even from the losses they suffered about 2 years ago

Are they trying to catch a falling knife as we normally say in stock investments when somebody is trying to average down on a falling stock.

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