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Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by tchaik(m): 1:00pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
speedyboi:Do we christians even bother to read our own history? Was there anything like 'catholic church" during inquisition period? When did 'catholic' form? Mtchewwwwwww!!!!!!!!!! NB: will not comment to any ill-informed posts again! |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 1:01pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
tchaik:Hey...if you don't know anything just shut up.....if you just hear people talking about king David and you now form your own story to make Christianity look violent, you have failed! There is no time when God told anybody to steal in his name ..... Or kill....... The only thing God can do his to fight for his people when an enemy wants to attack in form of war 1 Like |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Tropilo(m): 1:02pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
@Javalove: You are obviously a Yoruba moslem. Enlightened! |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 1:05pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
dhabrio: @ noblezone: make ur findings very well before U̶̲̥̅̊ jump into conclusion. Islam is not a violent religion. It a religion U̶̲̥̅̊ need to understand before you practice it, that's why He said "know M̶̲̥̅ε̲̣̣̣̥ before U̶̲̥̅̊ worship M̶̲̥̅ε̲̣̣̣̥, cos if U̶̲̥̅̊ don't know M̶̲̥̅ε̲̣̣̣̥, how wld U̶̲̥̅̊ worship me". The so called boko may have a fainted knowledge of Islam but they have ₪☺ atom of understanding. Knowledge without understanding is a waste. Pls oo, Islam is the best and peaceful religion I've ever known. I never practice it bcs my parents do, I do bcs I found it to be true religion. Boko are not of us!!!! the true face of is wickedness, murder, terror and evil. ask ur fore fathers how they got converted. it was with a dagger on their throat. 2 Likes |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 1:11pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
tchaik:See someone telling me about history..........you that you don't know that the inquision Period was in the 15th to 17th century...( you said 13th and 14th) .......mtcheew 1 Like |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by sakinmuwagun: 1:17pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
This boko haram guys are only covering up under religion. Islam is peaceful.there are muslims in the south, are they not peaceful? Some 'untouchable political elements' are behind BH. They are errand boys to some frustrated and selfish politicians who choose to kill fellow citizens. Remember the like of Buhari, Atiku, Shekarau etc neither come to the open neither in secret to condemn the activities of BH.May God heal our land and cleanse it of evil. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by bakila: 1:18pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
nex: It takes a lot of branwashing to get to where this group today. I don't agree that they would have been able to achieve so much without Atiku, and his foreign counterparts. He mistakenly blurted out his plan for violent change before the elections, but that had actually been his "Plan A".You guys will say Atiku, tomorrow Buhari and next Babangida. But the name that consistently come up is of those in this Govt. Bands like Boko Haram have existed in various guise and faith from Muslim to Christians to agnostics all in a bit to undermine Govt and overawe the people. Please focus your search on the inept structure on ground and the failure of that man that people call various names. Let them bring evidence against Atiku and convict him or you sir should shut it shhssh. Apologist of the failure of this Goverment to fulfill it duty to secure here people keep droping names. Was it Atiku that lined up some people in Ebony and killed |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by bakila: 1:31pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
sakinmuwagun: This boko haram guys are only covering up under religion. Islam is peaceful.there are muslims in the south, are they not peaceful? Some 'untouchable political elements' are behind BH. They are errand boys to some frustrated and selfish politicians who choose to kill fellow citizens. Remember the like of Buhari, Atiku, Shekarau etc neither come to the open neither in secret to condemn the activities of BH.May God heal our land and cleanse it of evil.Another foolish name caller. If you acknowledge Islam is peaceful you would acknowledge BH actions are un islamic. To politicise the activities of Boko Haram with Atiku, Buhari, Shakarau rakes of unnecessry provincial hatred. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by JW214: 1:36pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
larssonsamson: SUGAR MUMMIES ASSOCIATION IN NIGERIA,AND Agent Samson, I think this ur advert is in a wrong thread. I advise U remove it before d NL BH blow you and ur clients off. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by bakila: 1:41pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
It is heartwarming to hear that BH did not threaten to kill His Excellency Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Tropilo(m): 1:42pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
@Peterkbaba: I like the way you market your party (ACN). Well garnished with your "spices" (lies, half truthes, propaganda, conspiracy theories etc). Its unlike the people trying to sell Buhari who start and stop with insulting people who have contrary views. When Buhari finally loses (as usual) they resort to violence not knowing they did not market or package him well. You are in order bro, though its a digress from topic! |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by bodejohn(m): 1:51pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
I have always said this, in matters of religion and violence, religion is like water, it takes the shape of whoever carries it. We have seen people of diverse religion melting out cruelty to their fellow human beings. There is presently a man who calls himself a pastor who is threatening to deal with me after accepting that he encroached on my parcel of land because I have not made my perimeter fence to protect his own property. There is a story of a fulani man who cut off a man's hand in Oyo state because the poor farmer refused to drop his yams for the fulani's cattle to graze on. I think the BH members first had inborn tendencies to be violent before hiding under religion to unduly justify their dastardly acts. My firm belief is that if we are to win the war against these terrorists, true adherents of Islam should first publicly disown them and which the government can then face them squarely with the confidence that they are not dealing with a religious set but a terrorist organisation. 2 Likes |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by wakky4me(m): 2:05pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
noblezone: Koran has sympathy for those who kill for the blood thirsty Allah. If Ʊ don't have something reasonable †̥σ say Ʊ better shot Ūя̲̅ dirty mouth here....I really dislike whosoever d̶̲̥̅̊ąτ̲̅ doesn't have respect Ƒσя other religions...if Ʊ don't have knowledge its advisable †̥σ seek Ƒσя more knowledge †̥σ know what islam entails. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by nolly042(m): 2:09pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
javalove: I am a Muslim and I can tell you that these Boko guys are confused. . .deluded and know nothing about islam. . . |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by wakky4me(m): 2:10pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
bodejohn: I have always said this, in matters of religion and violence, religion is like water, it takes the shape of whoever carries it. We have seen people of diverse religion melting out cruelty to their fellow human beings. There is presently a man who calls himself a pastor who is threatening to deal with me after accepting that he encroached on my parcel of land because I have not made my perimeter fence to protect his own property. There is a story of a fulani man who cut off a man's hand in Oyo state because the poor farmer refused to drop his yams for the fulani's cattle to graze on. @bodejohn Ʊ are making sense here! 1 Like |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 2:37pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
dont turn here to the face of junks |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by czay(m): 2:39pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
After reading a lot of condemnations about islam,(a religion of peace) on this forum I laughed.well talk is cheap. Allah in his will show mankind the true path for anyone who choose to know. I'll die as a muslim..insha allah. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by hamsky: 2:49pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
I don't understand why people with very little understand of a religion or any other subject blab whatever they think is right without being sure. Allah only means GOD in arabic so if you say that Allah is blood thirsty then its like saying Chineke (God in Igbo) is blood thirsty. I don't care what you guys think but there is no were in the Qur'an that commands the killing of christians or innocent people. If you can find it anywhere in the Qur'an let me know and I will convert to your religion. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by ovo4u(m): 3:00pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
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Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Beync(f): 3:18pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
If Quran is an instrument for terror and confusion why not destroy it? Boko haram quotes quran supporting their killing of non islam u guys are still telling us islam is peace. ur god father satan punish u islamic jihads for killing innocent people. Holy reward my foot. 1 Like |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 3:25pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
hamsky: I don't understand why people with very little understand of a religion or any other subject blab whatever they think is right without being sure. Allah only means GOD in arabic so if you say that Allah is blood thirsty then its like saying Chineke (God in Igbo) is blood thirsty. I don't care what you guys think but there is no were in the Qur'an that commands the killing of christians or innocent people. If you can find it anywhere in the Qur'an let me know and I will convert to your religion. Please enlighten about the verses below. Source: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." (The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief). Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." (Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot). Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." ("People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths). Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." 1 Like |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by nex(m): 3:30pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
The main reason why the team at http://www.verdantchronicles.com took out time to get various translators to analyze and translate this Boko Haram video was to ensure that the true information was properly handed to Nigerians. Definitely, Boko Haram is evil, and nothing good can come out of them, but in that video, they never threatened to kill Goodluck Jonathan, nor did they even create a scheduled time for it. So the question is, who else is gaining from the current spate of terrorism in Nigeria? Who contorted the message from that video and told Nigerians that the Boko Haram group had threatened Goodluck Jonathan's life? Is the media itself blowing things out of proportions, and exploiting fear to sell AD spaces? Why has the SSS not issued a clear statement on this video. The state of Nigeria's security apparatus is really becoming very alarming! |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by skyflash(m): 3:33pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
speedyboi: see...I concur.....Islam ia a violent religion. Everybody should go and read about the history of Islam, even muhammed himself was a terrorist killing people unjustly so that they can be on his side. That is why any country in which Islam is the religion of about 50% of the population, they never have peace.....consider other Islamic nations like Arab, Iraq etc.....it has been the same old story of violence and terrorism. I know some people will want to blast me right now, but that's the truth. Infact there are places in the quran that preaches violence directly or indirectly, I was told all this by a former Muslim who is converted. I did my own research and I found out it is true...they are too blind to see, can somebody tell me whot jihad is all about. |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Beync(f): 4:00pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
Someone said alah is the same as almighty God,its not true pls. The true God does not approve of physical war today. He said vengeance is for him even if anyone persecutes u. while allah say kills non believer and those who persecute u. While God said our fight is not of physical but against wicked spirit in the high place high places. If they said allah is God almighty they would believe in Jesus who is son of God but they believe mohamed son of allah. Where is the correlation? There is not link between light and darkness abeg. 1 Like |
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Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by teskyg: 5:05pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
Islam is a confuse religion.They don't even understand their Koran.So many interpretations.These guys have continue to attacked christians in churches and people said it is political.We are convinced that they have the support of Northerners and the moslems based on the utterances from many of them including El-Rufai and sanusi Lamido.1 am still surprise dat the likes of Datti Ahmed has not spoken against their evil deed but jumped at the opportunity to go between the Government and Boko haram.A leader or a father should be bold enough to look into the face of their children and tell dem this is wrong.I am even more surprise that some people are asking for dialogue or Armesty for Boko Haram. 1 Like |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by suraaj(m): 5:48pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
I dont really blame those idiot dat insult my religion (ISLAM)cos are all christian the same?If your answer is No. please dont generalise that all muslims are bad.Boko haram sect are just .01% |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 5:50pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
sakinmuwagun: This boko haram guys are only covering up under religion. Islam is peaceful.there are muslims in the south, are they not peaceful? Some 'untouchable political elements' are behind BH. They are errand boys to some frustrated and selfish politicians who choose to kill fellow citizens. Remember the like of Buhari, Atiku, Shekarau etc neither come to the open neither in secret to condemn the activities of BH.May God heal our land and cleanse it of evil.See....don't deceive yourself....Islam is violent! The yoruba Muslims are not violent simply because they also consider the believe of the culture which frowns against violence......yorubas are meek and peaceful. so even if the religion tell them to be violent, the peaceful yoruba blood still flows in them and draws them away from violence. In hausas case, the hausa tribe in itself is a violent tribe and so is Islam and its teachings.....so when a violent hausa man believes in the violent Islam, it causes catastrophe! Another attention is; you said it is a political fight but all those that you claim are supporting them are all Muslims(Al qaeda, atiku, etc....) why didn't you say one of their sponsors is Obj, Fashola, etc...... The fact is , those supporting them have the same religious beliefs that preaches violence.... For godsake they are not the only one that have issues with GEJ or has another political agenda, but they prefer to react their opposition in a violent way.......please don't let is deceive ourselves....that religion has a problem from the very start! That's why any country dominated by Muslims never experience peace... |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by Nobody: 5:59pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
suraaj: I dont really blame those idiot dat insult my religion (ISLAM)cos are all christian the same?If your answer is No. please dont generalise that all muslims are bad.Boko haram sect are just .01%See, majority carries the vote! We've seen what Islam dominated countries are going through- Arab, Iraq, Sudan etc....and now Nigeria. Tell me, have you seen any Christian dominated nation(Philippines etc) having terrorism problems? Just mention one and I will shut my mouth! |
Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by hamsky: 6:04pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
TroGunn: The verses you're referring to are very well showcased in the Qur'anic context though if misunderstood could be very misleading which is the main reason we have Boko haram claiming to fight for the sake of Allah with islamic verses of this sort. You can go through the image that comes with this post to see a very concise explanation of some the verses you've quoted above. I don't have enough time to explain all of them but I guess this is more than enough, that's why I said what I said earlier.
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Re: We Didn't Threaten To Kill Jonathan - Boko Haram (transcript Of Youtube Video) by hamsky: 6:16pm On Apr 15, 2012 |
Beync: Someone said alah is the same as almighty God,its not true pls. The true God does not approve of physical war today. He said vengeance is for him even if anyone persecutes u. while allah say kills non believer and those who persecute u. While God said our fight is not of physical but against wicked spirit in the high place high places. If they said allah is God almighty they would believe in Jesus who is son of God but they believe mohamed son of allah. Where is the correlation? There is not link between light and darkness abeg. Hope this answers your question after all Google wasn't designed by the Muslims
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