I don't know why all these guys are getting worked up about Pogba.

He is not a top class midfielder when you talk about the basics of midfield play.

Dribbling, yes he's great. Shooting, yes, he's great. The bread and butter aspects of midfield needs work - tracking, possession, knowing when to release the ball etc. I'll be damned if pay over £30m for someone like Pogba.

Ibime:
I don't know why all these guys are getting worked up about Pogba.

He is not a top class midfielder when you talk about the basics of midfield play.

Dribbling, yes he's great. Shooting, yes, he's great. The bread and butter aspects of midfield needs work - tracking, possession, knowing when to release the ball etc. I'll be damned if pay over £30m for someone like Pogba.

you got that wrong imo and remember he is what 22? Besides, Matic can do the tracking. hehe.

However I do agree with the 30 mil. Just about right.

lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Desperate fans

bigkesh:
One down,Two to go...... Up next- Varane,griezman

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U guys are desperate ooooo,hahahahaha That's not even Pogba.... Roftl.... E maa binu ooo Just playing

bigkesh:
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Desperate fans

Kesh, just take a look, as far back as 2012, when Men adored and respected Eden Hazard, I keep asking myself, where has the love gone to, when did he hatred start??
Shouldn't they love him more since he's getting better and more dangerous at only 24??


Only change is constAnt for real....People change...

A40:
Moses,Marin,Mata,Oscar,Hazard,Sturridge in the space of two summers! Chelsea aint bullshitting tho! You guys might actually become fun to watch

A40:
Let's ride the Hazard bandwagon till the wheels fall off

Eden Hazard's Premier League games: 90 passes of 101 (89%), 41/47 attacking third passes, 3 asssists, 7 chances created, 2 penalties won

dayokanu:


Surely Hazard has repaid in 2 games what Torres is struggling with in 2 seasons

A40:
E be like say him just dey wind us for Charity shield abi na Community shield! Dude was om some Lebron ish! Full beast mode

FBS:
good work from FT but nna mehn, hazard na him biko. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

dayokanu:
Hazard 5 assists in 2 games

A40:
Hazard!!!!! How unselfish can u get! Buy of the season already! What a match

raumdeuter:


We should forget goals and dwell on meaningless dribbles and ball juggling?

There is a reason Ronaldo and Messi are highly rated and the best dribbler or ball juggler just entertains the crowd at half time

If you want to say fck goals then you need another sport not football, As at today oo, football winners are decided by the teams who score more goals not who dribbles

Show us a season Robinho scored 39 goals in Europe and helped his team win a treble. Robinho would be more like Hazarrd, senseless dribble, legover no end result

lmao.....aren't you the same Dayokanu here, or are we talking about a different Hazard now....U are confused....lol

A40:
Moses,Marin,Mata,Oscar,Hazard,Sturridge in the space of two summers! Chelsea aint bullshitting tho! You guys might actually become fun to watch

A40:
Let's ride the Hazard bandwagon till the wheels fall off

Eden Hazard's Premier League games: 90 passes of 101 (89%), 41/47 attacking third passes, 3 asssists, 7 chances created, 2 penalties won

dayokanu:


Surely Hazard has repaid in 2 games what Torres is struggling with in 2 seasons

A40:
E be like say him just dey wind us for Charity shield abi na Community shield! Dude was om some Lebron ish! Full beast mode

FBS:
good work from FT but nna mehn, hazard na him biko. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

dayokanu:
Hazard 5 assists in 2 games

A40:
Hazard!!!!! How unselfish can u get! Buy of the season already! What a match

Hehehehe @ jimmy that na qxn for the gods

I sincerely wont touch pogba for more than 35mil when Alex Song is going for far less. Though ,one may want to put pogbas age into consideration however , I am of the opinion we get Alex who can still give us few more years of good football in the hope that one of cfc younger players will be able to step up.

jimmy4x:

I took the greatest offence when you chose to refer to us as 'dudes' rather than mention our monikers, it just didn't make u sound friendly, at that point, to me, u posited yourself as an ITK. By typing 'dudes', really, who exactly were you trying to correct? was it me, Debroslink, Hensben, or d previous posters, u shoulda been specific.

Secondly, Nairaland isn't an exam hall where I have to watch the way I write nd act like I'm preparing for an Exam, i think it shouldn't be a big deal if I or anyone here chose to be flexible with the way we write, so far, we make our points understood by readers, a good number of posters here chip in Yoruba nd Pidgin once in a while nd no one has ever made a complaint.

This is a forum, an interactive one at that, a Nigerian website whose highest number of visitors nd members are home-based, this platform is not some sort of a formal gathering, I think everyone commenting here, irrespective of your location, upbringing and what have you, should be ready to tolerate and accept the fact that everyone won't match your desired standards, you gotta adapt and play along.

Lastly, as stated earlier, your corrections were taken into consideration, i now try to introduce paragraphs into my posts.

No offence taken really, have a great day.

It feels good to have you here.

I see you're into some archival digging already, unearthing posts from the past. Way to catch up with history

AirborneLacer:


It feels good to have you here.

I see you're into some archival digging already, unearthing posts from the past. Way to catch up with history

I'm delighted to be welcomed, I've been in bed all day, no work, skul has closed, I just felt like seeing pple's views and reactions about Hazard's signing back then, I wasn't a visitor of this thread then...I was quite flabbergasted at some of the posts nd d contrasting views by same persons then and now.
I now enjoy engaging Mr. Raumdeuter in talks, very funny man.

diggz:
Hehehehe @ jimmy that na qxn for the gods

I sincerely wont touch pogba for more than 35mil when Alex Song is going for far less. Though ,one may want to put pogbas age into consideration however , I am of the opinion we get Alex who can still give us few more years of good football in the hope that one of cfc younger players will be able to step up.

Good reasoning, Pogba is just too cost for 70m, kilode.
He can only be slightly better than the Alex Song I watched play good footie at Westham last season.

Could there be an ulterior motive behind Atletico Madrid's acquisition of Vietto and Jackson Martinez?

Manduzkic is gone, and I take it that Martinez being a central forward is the direct replacement for the Croat.

What about Vietto? He's a young good striker who has tasted Spanish football with Villareal, and the only player in A'madrid it seems like he'd be replacing is Antione Griezmann.

I can't help but think we're negotiating a deal with ATM for the Frenchman.

These may look like mere conjecture but then here are the words of Spanish Football expert Graham Hunter that gives a lot of credence to my inference:

“Antoine Griezmann is exceptional and would set the Premier League alight. This is a really talented, quick and robust young footballer. The price will have to be extraordinary because neither Simeone or Atletico want to let him go.”

“Chelsea have the economic power to buy him though. If they go all-in they have the power to take him from a club which is more than €500m in debt and trying to pay for a new stadium.''

jimmy4x:





Kesh, just take a look, as far back as 2012, when Men adored and respected Eden Hazard, I keep asking myself, where has the love gone to, when did he hatred start??
Shouldn't they love him more since he's getting better and more dangerous at only 24??


Only change is constAnt for real....People change...

brother I won't be surprised if A40 and DAYO actually support CFC behind Nairaland.....

look at their comments, all through the comments they didn't point out that hazard haven't scored a goal, they even counted penalties created as assist, he dribbled ooo but they didn't mention.......Present it now, they will tell u about goals and all sorts
No matter who u are,u can't SINCERELY deny Hazard is world class

Mourinho 2015- Maybe because of what we eat and ageing, we tend to forget a lot of things including who we are
Mourinho 2015-Envy is the greatest tribute that shadows does to Man

bigkesh:


brother I won't be surprised if A40 and DAYO actually support CFC behind Nairaland.....

look at their comments, all through the comments they didn't point out that hazard haven't scored a goal, they even counted penalties created as assist, he dribbled ooo but they didn't mention.......Present it now, they will tell u about goals and all sorts
No matter who u are,u can't SINCERELY deny Hazard is world class

Mourinho 2015- Maybe because of what we eat and ageing, we tend to forget a lot of things including who we are
Mourinho 2015-Envy is the greatest tribute that shadows does to Man

Azzzin, I tire .....see as dem list chances created, PKs scored, assists, dribbles nd d rest then, I say my eyes no gree biliv wen I dey read dere comments, I'm just waiting for dem to come nd defend themselves, maybe dem go say, dem be dey very young den, say dem never sabi how to analyse football....lol
One of my other observation bout Raumdeuter's staunch support for Hazard then was because he hated Torres for not scoring, now tables don turn, na dt Hazard be hin enemy now.
Talk from now till tomorrow, na only goals, outta all d oda stats, dem go lay emphasis on

A40:
Let's ride the Hazard bandwagon till the wheels fall off

Eden Hazard's Premier League games: 90 passes of 101 (89%), 41/47 attacking third passes, 3 asssists, 7 chances created, 2 penalties won

na ds one even shock me pass, just imagine the excitement wey Oga display for here, , na d same Hazard wey win EPL best player 2 seasons after ds comment come become useless to dem.
People sha....

jimmy4x:

Azzzin, I tire .....see as dem list chances created, PKs scored, assists, dribbles nd d rest then, I say my eyes no gree biliv wen I dey read dere comments, I'm just waiting for dem to come nd defend themselves, maybe dem go say, dem be dey very young den, say dem never sabi how to analyse football....lol
One of my other observation bout Raumdeuter's staunch support for Hazard then was because he hated Torres for not scoring, now tables don turn, na dt Hazard be hin enemy now.
Talk from now till tomorrow, na only goals, outta all d oda stats, dem go lay emphasis on

ignore them...
pouring water in basket is a more productive act than trying to let them drop their hatred

jimmy4x:

Azzzin, I tire .....see as dem list chances created, PKs scored, assists, dribbles nd d rest then, I say my eyes no gree biliv wen I dey read dere comments, I'm just waiting for dem to come nd defend themselves, maybe dem go say, dem be dey very young den, say dem never sabi how to analyse football....lol
One of my other observation bout Raumdeuter's staunch support for Hazard then was because he hated Torres for not scoring, now tables don turn, na dt Hazard be hin enemy now.
Talk from now till tomorrow, na only goals, outta all d oda stats, dem go lay emphasis on

ANyone even a blind man would see that anyone is better than Torres, And I specifically stated Hazard 5 assists as a reason he is better than

The major things in football are goals and assists. If as an attacking player you cant deliver goals or assists then you are useless.

As you noted, the reason I praised Hazard then was because some other Chelsea fans here were saying Torres is good despite not scoring or assisting because he makes runs, he dribbles, he takes on players etc which is what Hazard defence forces are also saying now. Hazard doesnt score like elites, doesnt assist like elites but they want us to believe he is elite because he does what Torres was doing in 2011-2012

I have always been consistent, If you dont score or assist as an attacking player, you are useless.

Uselessness get level Hazard would still be better than Torres which isnt saying much

raumdeuter:


ANyone even a blind man would see that anyone is better than Torres, And I specifically stated Hazard 5 assists as a reason he is better than

The major things in football are goals and assists. If as an attacking player you cant deliver goals or assists then you are useless.

As you noted, the reason I praised Hazard then was because some other Chelsea fans here were saying Torres is good despite not scoring or assisting because he makes runs, he dribbles, he takes on players etc which is what Hazard defence forces are also saying now. Hazard doesnt score like elites, doesnt assist like elites but they want us to believe he is elite because he does what Torres was doing in 2011-2012

I have always been consistent, If you dont score or assist as an attacking player, you are useless.

Uselessness get level Hazard would still be better than Torres which isnt saying much

Dk u no just fit call names sha....? Using some chelsea fans makes it sound n look like more dan 2 cfc fans on dis thread supported fernandud. Except if u are adding coogar to the list to mk d supporters more sha!

raumdeuter:


ANyone even a blind man would see that anyone is better than Torres, And I specifically stated Hazard 5 assists as a reason he is better than

The major things in football are goals and assists. If as an attacking player you cant deliver goals or assists then you are useless.

As you noted, the reason I praised Hazard then was because some other Chelsea fans here were saying Torres is good despite not scoring or assisting because he makes runs, he dribbles, he takes on players etc which is what Hazard defence forces are also saying now. Hazard doesnt score like elites, doesnt assist like elites but they want us to believe he is elite because he does what Torres was doing in 2011-2012

I have always been consistent, If you dont score or assist as an attacking player, you are useless.

Uselessness get level Hazard would still be better than Torres which isnt saying much

I can only Smh for u sir, nobody fit catch u for one corner
so, d assists u liked him nd praised him for back then, he no longer creates those assists again neither does he score goals....hin just dey dribble alone since 2012 nd he won EPL player of d year nd young player for 2 consecutive seasons.
When u were praising him den sef, I doubt he had even scored a single goal sef, na now wey e don develop, hes now useless to u .
u r d boss, u try wella.


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dayokanu:


Surely Hazard has repaid in 2 games what Torres is struggling with in 2 seasons

care to buttress ur point here sir, cos I can't help buh wonder how Hazard, who u claim to av been useless for 3 good seasons now was able to repay, in just 2 games what Torres couldn't do in 2 good seasons....wat did hazard do then abeg??

Cech to arsenal done.

diggz:


Dk u no just fit call names sha....? Using some chelsea fans makes it sound n look like more dan 2 cfc fans on dis thread supported fernandud. Except if u are adding coogar to the list to mk d supporters more sha!

You sef dey there na when I carry Torres matter for head when some Chelsea fans begin dey tell me to consider intangibles he brings to the table.

Football is a game of numbers not fashion parade or modelling where judgment is subjective. No one needs any window dressing to know why Messi and Ronaldo are tops. When we don start to consider other things besides goals and assists for an attacking player then we know say Ojoro wan enter be that.

I knew nattevs was one of those who started, later some Chelsea fans started joining mouth saying NO striker can work at Chelsea because of the system, No be him COsta score about 20 despite injuries and first season syndrome?

Any hope on falcao?
De useless striker who didn't score a single goal in copa america

I'd like to thank Roman Abramovich, because without him Chelsea Football Club will not be where it is now. - Petr Cech

chimerase2:
Any hope on falcao?
De useless striker who didn't score a single goal in copa america

WHat of his take on, dribbles, fouls won and other things Hazard supporters count for him

If that uselessness would see him sweeping home every award there's to be won in England whilst winning Chelsea laurels, then I pray Hazard remains useless.

Mgbeke analysis

jimmy4x:

I can only Smh for u sir, nobody fit catch u for one corner
so, d assists u liked him nd praised him for back then, he no longer creates those assists again neither does he score goals....hin just dey dribble alone since 2012 nd he won EPL player of d year nd young player for 2 consecutive seasons.
When u were praising him den sef, I doubt he had even scored a single goal sef, na now wey e don develop, hes now useless to u .
u r d boss, u try wella.

I praised him for 5 assists in 2 games now he had 13 assists in 52 games all season. You sef do the math and tell us if na the same thing.

The more senseless dribbles without assist he does, the more useless he becomes.

WInning award in England? LOL vs Harry Kane and Coutinho? WHy dem no see him name for EUropean awards? Or Balon D or abi na angels dem dey nominate for there. Stuff of Local champions. WHere was he in Europe? COuldnt make it past second round PSG

Shebi na person win best player for Ukrainian league he sef suppose dey shout say he be player

Cech made it clear in his statement that before Abrahmovic Chelsea was shit.

raumdeuter:


I praised him for 5 assists in 2 games now he had 13 assists in 52 games all season. You sef do the math and tell us if na the same thing.

The more senseless dribbles without assist he does, the more useless he becomes.

WInning award in England? LOL vs Harry Kane and Coutinho? WHy dem no see him name for EUropean awards? Or Balon D or abi na angels dem dey nominate for there. Stuff of Local champions. WHere was he in Europe? COuldnt make it past second round PSG

Shebi na person win best player for Ukrainian league he sef suppose dey shout say he be player

Tell me, which league Aguero, Di Maria, Rooney, Silva, Yaya toure, Ozil, Sanchez dey....why be say na Hazard win d award among them?

jimmy4x:

Surely Hazard has repaid in 2 games what Torres is struggling with in 2 seasons
care to buttress ur point here sir, cos I can't help buh wonder how Hazard, who u claim to av been useless for 3 good seasons now was able to repay, in just 2 games what Torres couldn't do in 2 good seasons....wat did hazard do then abeg??

You sef compare Hazard to Torres, Torres is the worst ever. If you have 100 Naira(Hazard) you are better than someone with 10 Naira(Torres) but cant compare yourself to someone with 500 Naira(Neymar) or those with 1million (Messi)

jimmy4x:

Tell me, which league Aguero, Di Maria, Rooney, Silva, Yaya toure, Ozil, Sanchez dey....why be say na Hazard win d award among them?

Most (Aguero, Yaya, Ozil, Silva) battled injuries this season and werent in contention most of it. the only players who Hazard really contended with were Harry Kane(a rookie) and Cutinho(a mediocre player)

raumdeuter:


Most (Aguero, Yaya, Ozil, Silva) battled injuries this season and werent in contention most of it. the only players who Hazard really contended with were Harry Kane(a rookie) and Cutinho(a mediocre player)

Even Di Maria and Sanchez too?

raumdeuter:


WHat of his take on, dribbles, fouls won and other things Hazard supporters count for him

just keep quiet if u dnt hv any meaniful thing to say