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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:25am On Jan 12, 2021

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:07am On Jan 12, 2021
donjazet:


I'm just seeing this, my man.
It's the correct thing to do. Seeing the US Capitol building being desecrated like that was gut wrenching. There should be consequences for that.
This should have been done much earlier. Trump has done nothing but use Twitter to terrible effects.
I wholeheartedly support Jack Dorsey's action.
Isn't this criminalization of free speech and tech giants being partisan in this regard because for years now some leaders have been making statements dangerous for peace but they didn't take decisive actions against them? The action taken by the tech giants are Orwellian in nature, it has set a dangerous precedent in the sense that countries with capacity but reluctant to build their platforms will now go ahead to build one and force citizens to sign up. Also, allowing tech giants to unilaterally decide what's right and what's wrong is dangerous for civil conversation because once they don't agree with you even if what you're saying is the truth they will remove your content and suspend your account.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:26am On Jan 12, 2021
NextD18:

Yea, I remember. The match that had Harvertz score a hatrick.

It's nice fixtures for Chelsea. I pray Pukki don't turn to Ronaldo should incase we meet Norwich.

Already looking beyond the Luton game...

Take am easy. Let's do this one game at a time.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:31am On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

Isn't this criminalization of free speech and tech giants being partisan in this regard because for years now some leaders have been making statements dangerous for peace but they didn't take decisive actions against them? The action taken by the tech giants are Orwellian in nature, it has set a dangerous precedent in the sense that countries with capacity but reluctant to build their platforms will now go ahead to build one and force citizens to sign up. Also, allowing tech giants to unilaterally decide what's right and what's wrong is dangerous for civil conversation because once they don't agree with you even if what you're saying is the truth they will remove your content and suspend your account.

The way Tech companies are rushing to de-platform and erase Trump from history is very dangerous.
The one that busted my head is Spotify - How did they ban that nigga from Spotify kwa? You mean all his playlists are gone? grin

This is a huge message to all the other world leaders, right now the public support these decisions because it's Trump, but it could very easily be Boris, or Macron or Merkel in future.

IF this is not a coordinated efforts by the real powers-that-be behind the throne aka 'the Reptilians', and instead is just a gangup by the tech bros of Silicon Valley, then you can expect incoming regulations in the social media space as world leaders realise that wings need to be clipped..fast.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:40am On Jan 12, 2021
grin

Reptilians.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:53am On Jan 12, 2021
afrodoc2:
grin

Reptilians.
Egbon you like quarrel pas fight
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:56am On Jan 12, 2021
afrodoc2:
grin

Reptilians.

Ah abi you never hear that rumour ni? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:59am On Jan 12, 2021
nihilistjnr:


The way Tech companies are rushing to de-platform and erase Trump from history is very dangerous.
The one that busted my head is Spotify - How did they ban that nigga from Spotify kwa? You mean all his playlists are gone? grin

This is a huge message to all the other world leaders, right now the public support these decisions because it's Trump, but it could very easily be Boris, or Macron or Merkel in future.

IF this is not a coordinated efforts by the real powers-that-be behind the throne aka 'the Reptilians', and instead is just a gangup by the tech bros of Silicon Valley, then you can expect incoming regulations in the social media space as world leaders realise that wings need to be clipped..fast.
China is laughing at Western countries and their allies like this and others are seeing the danger first-hand. Turkey is about switching to its own platform, India is warming up and the domino effect has set in already as the share price of Twitter has dropped since the last episode.

We shouldn't be selective in our pursuant of Justice in as much as I am against free speech granting tech companies right of arbitration is dangerous because they have biases and holding them accountable will be difficult as they can wriggle themselves out of any legal implication by lobbying and prolonging litigation
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:10am On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

China is laughing at Western countries and their allies like this and others are seeing the danger first-hand. Turkey is about switching to its own platform, India is warming up and the domino effect has set in already as the share price of Twitter has dropped since the last episode.

We shouldn't be selective in our pursuant of Justice in as much as I am against free speech granting tech companies right of arbitration is dangerous because they have biases and holding them accountable will be difficult as they can wriggle themselves out of any legal implication by lobbying and prolonging litigation

That's why I'm not 100% convinced that it's big tech ganging up on Trump. A former US president is still an incredibly powerful person who still has access to the corridors of power. You don't make the kind of moves Twitter and co are making unless you recieve re-assurance that Trumps access to Washington is permanently revoked at every level.

It's not just Big Tech. It's Banks, it's e-Commerce. It's Spotify and Pornhub ffs. Even Bill Belichik announced recently that he's not taking the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump(Biden will probably give him it anyway) but this looks way too coordinated.

The Reptilians are making an example of Trump.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:17am On Jan 12, 2021
nihilistjnr:


That's why I'm not 100% convinced that it's big tech ganging up on Trump. A former US president is still an incredibly powerful person who still has access to the corridors of power. You don't make the kind of moves Twitter and co are making unless you recieve re-assurance that Trumps access to Washington is permanently revoked at every level.

It's not just Big Tech. It's Banks, it's e-Commerce. It's Spotify and Pornhub ffs. Even Bill Belichik announced recently that he's not taking the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump(Biden will probably give him it anyway) but this looks way too coordinated.

The Reptilians are making an example of Trump.
It is a coordinated assault most likely because of Trump's battle against the political establishments of Republican and Democrats parties and his American first policy which hurts big businesses with productions plants outside the shores of America.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:18am On Jan 12, 2021
Caveat: I'm just thinking about events and analysing them as I deem fit I may be wrong
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 11:21am On Jan 12, 2021
Am happy I was not the only one deeply troubled by the coordinated big tech shutdown of trump and parler,alot of people are happy because they hate trump,but this world is conciously walking towards a cooperate oligarchy,10 CEO's can pretty much decide what should dicussed in 90% of the internet used by billions of people,that is a dictatorship,the difference between America and China/ Russia is that censorship is done by 10 men rather than Putin/xi,which is pretty much the same thing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 11:22am On Jan 12, 2021
nihilistjnr:


Ah abi you never hear that rumour ni? grin


Lol you know say me dey always keep updated na.

E pass rumor o. Na theory.
Conspiracy theory. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 11:25am On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

Egbon you like quarrel pas fight

Haba. Why you come misconstrue my intentions like this?

Nihilistjnr just reminded me of that Reptilian theory. The theory funny die.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:26am On Jan 12, 2021
afrodoc2:


Haba. Why you come misconstrue my intentions like this?

Nihilistjnr just reminded me of that Reptilian theory. The theory funny die.
Shifo, sorry for misconstruing you
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:30am On Jan 12, 2021
madrid5:
Am happy I was not the only one deeply troubled by the coordinated big tech shutdown of trump and parler,alot of people are happy because they hate trump,but this world is conciously walking towards a cooperate oligarchy,10 CEO's can pretty much decide what should dicussed in 90% of the internet used by billions of people,that is a dictatorship,the difference between America and China/ Russia is that censorship is done by 10 men rather than Putin/xi,which is pretty much the same thing
When the political establishment of the left were hounding Trump for electoral fraud and twisting his statements for political gains with half-truths and blatant lies the tech giants who were mostly left leaning see no harm in that but when Trump does the same thing or less he's flagged for it and eventually removed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 11:43am On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

When the political establishment of the left were hounding Trump for electoral fraud and twisting his statements for political gains with half-truths and blatant lies the tech giants who were mostly left leaning see no harm in that but when Trump does the same thing or less he's flagged for it and eventually removed
trump and his supporters are idiots,but I don't support left-wing coperate tyranny
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 11:53am On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

When the political establishment of the left were hounding Trump for electoral fraud and twisting his statements for political gains with half-truths and blatant lies the tech giants who were mostly left leaning see no harm in that but when Trump does the same thing or less he's flagged for it and eventually removed

What the left did in the post-election period is not the same thing as what Trump did, and I don’t think it is comparable.

Trump essentially instigated a populist coup. He invited his followers to the capital with the objective of subverting the democratic process and halting the handover of government extrajudicially.

He had also previously set the tone for the whole situation by being divisive and using social media as a propaganda tool to spread hate and misinformation.

What he did has more similarity to what the Nazis did in the period before Kristallnacht. There is a difference between merely having different political views or holding a different political position AND actively encouraging a mob to interfere with a democratic handover of power.

Now whether Twitter and Facebook should have such censorial power is a different debate. But let’s not minimise Trump’s actions by comparing it to anything the left or indeed the right did after the elections.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 11:55am On Jan 12, 2021
madrid5:
Am happy I was not the only one deeply troubled by the coordinated big tech shutdown of trump and parler,alot of people are happy because they hate trump,but this world is conciously walking towards a cooperate oligarchy,10 CEO's can pretty much decide what should dicussed in 90% of the internet used by billions of people,that is a dictatorship,the difference between America and China/ Russia is that censorship is done by 10 men rather than Putin/xi,which is pretty much the same thing
you opened an account and you kept posting lies on that platform that are against the company rules

Did you agree to the terms and services? If yes then you can get banned and removed, if you go against the rules

People forget that twitter is a company that has rules and operate with order, it's not an unrestricted public forum, if you want free speech, get a maga phone grin , you can't inconvenience people with your stupidity in the name of free speech

Big tech dey fear you? Open your eyes they own the world today, they decide what sectors get what investment and research

The entire world is controlled by a few people, politicians are puppets that are used and replaced as they please, by few people, I'm talking about venture capitals and hedge funds, the power those guys hold, do you know who forced apple to clam down on poor labour practices? Norway, and it's because they own a significant potion of apple shares that is real power not a temporary president that becomes insignificant after 8 years


Some people are so powerful, they can build and buy propaganda, some pay both conservative groups and liberal groups


Guy stop dreaming, wealth had given a certain class of people unimaginable power, laws are passed for the rich not the poor, cause the rich pay politicians via lobbyist to push that agenda

Make money and escape the simulation

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 11:59am On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

When the political establishment of the left were hounding Trump for electoral fraud and twisting his statements for political gains with half-truths and blatant lies the tech giants who were mostly left leaning see no harm in that but when Trump does the same thing or less he's flagged for it and eventually removed
they attacked the capital of the united states angry

Na ment? Wetin dey do una, we are talking about white privilege, everybody knows that he deserves what he is getting instead of una to focus on why police suddenly became lenient and talk about reforms, you are fighting because a fool was blocked from causing more chaos

Na ment? Dem swear for black man, wetin na

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:04pm On Jan 12, 2021
afrodoc2:


What the left did in the post-election period is not the same thing as what Trump did, and I don’t think it is comparable.

Trump essentially instigated a populist coup. He invited his followers to the capital with the objective of subverting the democratic process and halting the handover of government extrajudicially.

He had also previously set the tone for the whole situation by being divisive and using social media as a propaganda tool to spread hate and misinformation.

What he did has more similarity to what the Nazis did in the period before Kristallnacht. There is a difference between merely having different political views or holding a different political position AND actively encouraging a mob to interfere with a democratic handover of power.

Now whether Twitter and Facebook should have such censorial power is a different debate. But let’s not minimise Trump’s actions by comparing it to anything the left or indeed the right did after the elections.
if facebook can ban white supremacists groups, why should banning trump be an issue, the only people making noise about this are people that don't understand the damage a fool with an audience can cause

So many people have been banned for things far less than trump, especially now that he is leaving office, he will promote extreme things on that platform, there are millions of small startups in america, trump should pick one social media company and congregate his band of idiots there biko, don't ruin twitter for sensible people cause you want a baboon to create more commotion, say na free speech, is twitter owned by America or the world, is twitter in american constitution?

Is twitter, human right?


If you don't like their way, delete your account biko


People joined twitter cause they trust the platform to protect them from such people, small porn on front page and una dey call mod, what happened to the posters right?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:10pm On Jan 12, 2021
Greatihex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAG5ZUJ4eI

Wow. What a masterclass.
if mourinho played against mourinho

You go watch the game?

Make una continue to dey promote mumu football

It can disappear one day if people lose interest and hacks like mourinho can cause that kind of thing

Attacking football is the game, anything else should be banned in my opinion

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 12:13pm On Jan 12, 2021
iamJ:
they attacked the capital of the united states angry

Na ment? Wetin dey do una, we are talking about white privilege, everybody knows that he deserves what he is getting instead of una to focus on why police suddenly became lenient and talk about reforms, you are fighting because of fool was blocked from causing more chaos

Na ment? Dem swear for black man, wetin na
We shouldn't befool ourselves and neglect the fact that despite the white privilege thing the black community is dysfunctional and hyperaggressive coupled with the widespread of guns, meaning that a police officer feels unsafe when he encounters a black person. Trump is not the issue he's the symptom of a disease plaguing USA and those chastising are no different than him only difference is that he choose to be uncultured in approach.
My argument is centered around the double standard of tech giants and their rights of arbitration
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:17pm On Jan 12, 2021
iamJ:
you opened an account and you kept posting lies on that platform that are against the company rules

Did you agree to the terms and services? If yes then you can get banned and removed, if you go against the rules

People forget that twitter is a company that has rules and operate with order, it's not an unrestricted public forum, if you want free speech, get a maga phone grin , you can't inconvenience people with your stupidity in the name of free speech

Big tech dey fear you? Open your eyes they own the world today, they decide what sectors get what investment and research

The entire world is controlled by a few people, politicians are puppets that are used and replaced as they please, by few people, I'm talking about venture capitals and hedge funds, the power those guys hold, do you know who forced apple to clam down on poor labour practices? Norway, and it's because they own a significant potion of apple shares that is real power not a temporary president that becomes insignificant after 8 years


Some people are so powerful, they can build and buy propaganda, some pay both conservative groups and liberal groups


Guy stop dreaming, wealth had given a certain class of people unimaginable power, laws are passed for the rich not the poor, cause the rich pay politicians via lobbyist to push that agenda

Make money and escape the simulation
dude please stop typing all this long comments for me abeg,the main the gist is the fact that 10 CEO's can not and should not control 90 % of online discussion,I don't give a Bleep if it's your company,am not that concern about the banning of trump,it's the coordinated Group Intimacy of alternate twitter (parler) that scares me,these tech giant should be broken down.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:20pm On Jan 12, 2021
iamJ:
if facebook can ban white supremacists groups, why should banning trump be an issue, the only people making noise about this are people that don't understand the damage a fool with an audience can cause

So many people have been banned for things far less than trump, especially now that he is leaving office, he will promote extreme things on that platform, there are millions of small startups in america, trump should pick one social media company and congregate his band of idiots there biko, don't ruin twitter for sensible people cause you want a baboon to create more commotion, say na free speech, is twitter owned by America or the world, is twitter in american constitution?

Is twitter, human right?


If you don't like their way, delete your account biko


People joined twitter cause they trust the platform to protect them from such people, small porn on front page and una dey call mod, what happened to the posters right?
you want companies to be more powerful than governments?
What about the coordinated shutdown of parler,if you don't like twitter leave,except amazon,Google,and co decided to kick out twitter alternative

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:31pm On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

We shouldn't befool ourselves and neglect the fact that despite the white privilege thing the black community is dysfunctional and hyperaggressive coupled with the widespread of guns, meaning that a police officer feels unsafe when he encounters a black person. Trump is not the issue he's the symptom of a disease plaguing USA and those chastising are no different than him only difference is that he choose to be uncultured in approach.
My argument is centered around the double standard of tech giants and their rights of arbitration
it's the same thing with Americans and arabs, back and forth, you destroy their village looking for one person, one of their sons grow up straps a bomb and attacks americans, it will never end, you destroy another village and it's another son

Black aggressive culture causes police to be very cautious around them but how many times has a police officer been shot by a black man, let's be honest here, have you considered that?

Let's go back to the root of the issue self, whites used blacks as slaves for decades to build america and refused to recognize them as equals, till date things like statutory minimums and police precautions has continued the tradition of suppressing blacks

Ordinary Jaywalking and you will be told that bail is $5k

You can't afford bail, you end up in prison or you take a plea deal after weeks, you have lost your job and ur life is ruined, all because you are a black man and police officers are very paranoid, why wouldn't that black man engage in crime? What about his son's? They will join drug gangs instead of school

Let's be honest, the system is broken and white privilege is a thing and people use it alot

If a white man and a black man both give conflicting testimonies which will the jury believe? You have to be a celebrity as a black man to escape the oppression


If the number of officers killed by blacks were high, I would understand but it's officers that are instead killing blacks cause they are paranoid, you can't fix that issue by dismissing it as a black thing bro

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:36pm On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

My argument is centered around the double standard of tech giants and their rights of arbitration
I think they have been soft in my opinion

Stupid propaganda should be stopped

News outlets, do research before giving you the news cause they know you trust them to say the truth

Social media creates an echo chamber, you can watch fox news and be following certain individual in time you will believe radical ideas


Social media companies should exercise the right to block and break down such formations, it's no longer funny, we can use the internet to make the world a better place, spreading lies and fake news isn't helping it's just creating divisions and if twitter doesn't act this divisions will become a movement and things like that capitol attack will be an often occurance

Police can only police if we all agree to behave ourselves.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:39pm On Jan 12, 2021
madrid5:
you want companies to be more powerful than governments?
What about the coordinated shutdown of parler,if you don't like twitter leave,except amazon,Google,and co decided to kick out twitter alternative
they are already more powerful than the government cheesy

See this guy, who sponsors propaganda against politicians?

Super pacs and the rest are funded by who?

Which companies use lobbyist the most?

High cost of drugs isn't going down

Look who is spending money on congress to keep that argument off the table


Wake up bro

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 12:40pm On Jan 12, 2021
iamJ:
I think they have been soft in my opinion

Stupid propaganda should be stopped

News outlets, do research before giving you the news cause they know you trust them to say the truth

Social media creates an echo chamber, you can watch fox news and be following certain individual in time you will believe redical ideas


Social media company should exercise the right to block and break down such formations, it's no longer funny, we can use the internet to make the world a better place, spreading lies and fake news isn't helping it's just creating divisions and if twitter doesn't act this divisions will become a movement and things like that capitol attack will be an often occurance

Police can only police if we all agree to behave ourselves.
Allowing social media platforms to decide what's true from what's false has ramifications there should be an independent authority overseeing such. Here is a suggestion:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54901083
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:52pm On Jan 12, 2021
Amoto94:

Allowing social media platforms to decide what's true from what's false has ramifications there should be an independent authority overseeing such. Here is a suggestion:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54901083
read that last year, rules like that will kick out people like trump and his gang

Twitter has been very lenient, do you listen to joe rogan's podcast? He had jack dorsey on one time and jack explained that those far right guys violate basic rules, he even tries to be as lenient as possible with them but they create new ways to break the rules further

U are staying in a private estate with security and all and you see some huligans, wouldn't you call security to remove them? Why should social media be different?


If you want freedom, load up tails on flash drive and dive into the dark web, nobody cares if you think that the queen is a lizard there

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:55pm On Jan 12, 2021
Even nigeria, every single problem you are facing, there is a rich man benefiting from it and he will sponsor politicians to maintain status quo

Make una wake up

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 1:25pm On Jan 12, 2021
Tomori to Leeds...rumours surfacing now

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