popizaino:



It's obvious jorginho wasnt even among best 6 at Chelsea cus I will still put kante among those 5 you mentioned but someone people thinks jorginho is worthy enough for the Men's player of the year award for reason best known to them alone .

Last season Mount, Kante and Mendy were miles ahead of Jorgiboy without question and Azpi, Silva, Rudiger arguably so. Others would be ahead of him if not for injuries or changes of system.

Lampard first full season, every starting player was ahead of Jorginho except Kepa and Rudiger

Sarri season, again Hazard, Willian, Kante, Kovacic, Azpi were undoubtedly ahead and he was one of the worst players.

I don't mind celebrating any Chelsea player winning laurels but not one I consider detrimental to the future of my team

BlueAngel444:
like you consider it not emotional but logical to attack your own player who is being recognized international.

I wonder who likes people like you who are judgemental

What are you saying?

I made my opinion known about a player, whom i think does not deserve to be named UEFA best player ahead of his teammate, who supposedly deserved it more based on his individual performances & man of the match awards and you called that emotional?
What's the basis of your assertion?
Have you ever seen me tell anyone here that i do not like Jorginho?
When one make constructive criticism on a player, does that mean you hate the player?
Guy!

popizaino:



It's obvious jorginho wasnt even among best 6 at Chelsea cus I will still put kante among those 5 you mentioned but someone people thinks jorginho is worthy enough for the Men's player of the year award for reason best known to them alone .

That's true. Remove Werner for Kante.

Ibime:


Consistency in the league will prove whether protecting him by parking bus works consistently. Anyone can park bus to win a tournament with specific preparation and tactical instructions, but parking bus to win 30 out of 38 games is a different kettle of fish.

So far as I see, no Chelsea manager has had a different profile of DM to work with so of course they will do what they have to do with what's available.

Protecting a liability and benching him, which one is easier?

BikeMan:
Jorginho is a liability and he's only playing because Chelsea has not decided to invest in the midfield in the last couple of years. A system player is very dangerous, especially for a team like Chelsea that keeps changing managers.

3 managers in the last 4yrs yet Jorginho is still a regular starter. Find another thing talk abeg

Havertz10:
if I talk now, you will remind me that you have broad chest and if we meet in person you will beat me up

Ibime is sulking, I don't sulk, I readily accept L when wrong, i'm both bayesian and frequentist, my opinions are fluid, i'm open to new information, I like to learn and i'm shameless about it, me and ibime aren't alike abeg

Ibime's post gives the impression that he wanted the team to fail just so his "agenda" works. This was the same thing you did with Havertz sometime ago.

That is why I mentioned you. I never said both of you are alike in everything.

popizaino:



. It's 160, corrected.

Now answer this ....Was jorginho among the top 5 best players for us last season?

Before I answer you that, who gave Jorginho 6th in the class? We all know that the 1st you mentioned is him winning the POTY award. But the 6th, who awarded him 6th?

timbros:


Protecting a liability and benching him, which one is easier?

Chelsea does not have another specialist DM except him. Kante maybe but he is too useful in the CM.

popizaino:
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Who is Chelsea's last season highest goal scorer please?

Ibime:


Chelsea does not have another specialist DM except him. Kante maybe but he is too useful in the CM.

And you think if getting a proper DM will make Tuchel play his preferred tactics instead of "accommodating a liability", we wouldn't have signed a DM since?

We badly needed a focal point man, we wasted no time in landing Lukaku. Don't you think that if Jorginho was spoiling Tuchel's tactics, we wouldn't have made DM a top priority in the market?

timbros:


And you think if getting a proper DM will make Tuchel play his preferred tactics instead of "accommodating a liability", we wouldn't have signed a DM since?

We badly needed a focal point man, we wasted no time in landing Lukaku. Don't you think that if Jorginho was spoiling Tuchel's tactics, we wouldn't have made DM a top priority in the market?

Has Tuchel played this formation consistently before?

This formation was only for one reason - lack of a functional DM, so required another defender to cover the runs from midfield.

Tuchel could sneak through tournament football but we haven't forgotten how Aston Villa, West Brom, Leicester, West Ham and co were peppering us and dominating us too regularly for our liking.

First priority is striker, that's a £100m spend. We can manage the system for now to prioritise a striker signing.

I don't like this draw, that pot 2 na wa, well I hope we get psg, it will be interesting cause tuchel will be super motivated and that will boost our brand clout, if we beat them

Ibime:


Has Tuchel played this formation consistently before?

This formation was only for one reason - lack of a functional DM, so required another defender to cover the runs from midfield.

Tuchel could sneak through tournament football but we haven't forgotten how Aston Villa, West Brom, Leicester, West Ham and co were peppering us and dominating us too regularly for our liking.

First priority is striker, that's a £100m spend. We can manage the system for now to prioritise a striker signing.

You of all people should tone down this tournament/league narrative.

We were all here when you were so sure that 343 never win UCL before. But what happened?

Kounde and Saul deals are almost done. If DM is what will make Tuchel play his preferred formation/tactics and bin the liability, we would have been on the verge of signing a DM now, not Kounde and Saul.

Havertz10:
I don't like this draw, that pot 2 na wa, well I hope we get psg, it will be interesting cause tuchel will be super motivated and that will boost our brand clout, if we beat them

I hope we get dortmund or barka. I want weak defences that we will destroy not any team that would be fighting us to top the group.

I will allow the legend Pat nevin speak for himself

WhoDeyHause:

I hope we get dortmund or barka. I want weak defences that we will destroy not any team that would be fighting us to top the group.

I prefer to hope for the worst and find positives there, if we get any other team no problem but I wouldn't be mad if we got psg

Third kit.

Yay or Nay?

BlueAngel444:
You know, you all be saying this and that about €90m, but I'm gonna make them an offer they cannot refuse.





Kounde to Chelsea €50m (the same amount United's deal for Varane, 8m more than Upamecano release clause, but with far cheaper salary of €4m per year)

Leverkusen wanted £100m for Havertz, Chelsea paid £68m + add ons.

Leicester wanted £80m for Chilwell, Chelsea paid £50m.

Inter wanted £110m for Lukaku, Chelsea paid £97.5m.

Sevilla wanted £68m for Kounde, Chelsea agreed a fee of £42m??

Marina Granovskaia is a top negotiator.

timbros:
Third kit.

Yay or Nay?

definitely Yay 10/10

BikeMan:
Jorginho is a liability and he's only playing because Chelsea has not decided to invest in the midfield in the last couple of years. A system player is very dangerous, especially for a team like Chelsea that keeps changing managers.

lol we don too hear this system player mantra.

But three coaches has made him priority in DM in the last three years

Havertz10:
I don't like this draw, that pot 2 na wa, well I hope we get psg, it will be interesting cause tuchel will be super motivated and that will boost our brand clout, if we beat them

What are you actually wishing for?

Without PSG, our morale is high and deem a good brand as reigning champion.

Our cocunut contains water.

Zouma off to west ham and we aren't even trying to negotiate anything with them for that Basmati guy.

Ibime:


Kovacic is not a DM and neither really is Kante who is too important in CM

the club can easily look for a DM. To replace jorginho yet they are going for cm

Exonerate1:
Zouma off to west ham and we aren't even trying to negotiate anything with them for that Basmati guy.

Next summer we'll have more leverage. Even if we don't sign him, there's always Aurelien Tchouameni. And if Saul performs in that position, we keep him permanently. Not to forget we already have Ethan and Billy....

BikeMan:
Jorginho is a liability and he's only playing because Chelsea has not decided to invest in the midfield in the last couple of years. A system player is very dangerous, especially for a team like Chelsea that keeps changing managers.

well Tuchel is buying Saul so let's see if Saul benches Jorginho meanwhile italy and Chelsea play different systems

I don't care as long as we win

Exonerate1:
Zouma off to west ham and we aren't even trying to negotiate anything with them for that Basmati guy.

in terms of defense and among clubs that have signed CB so far, I believe West ham hit the jack pot, Zouma for £25m

amodu:


What are you actually wishing for?

Without PSG, our morale is high and deem a good brand as reigning champion.

Our cocunut contains water.

our coconut contains water

This post was definitely liked by ibime

timbros:


Before I answer you that, who gave Jorginho 6th in the class? We all know that the 1st you mentioned is him winning the POTY award. But the 6th, who awarded him 6th?

Name your top 5 players at Chelsea based on last season

Exonerate1:
Zouma off to west ham and we aren't even trying to negotiate anything with them for that Basmati guy.

west ham would play in euro next season

Dortmund chiefs refused to negiotate with Marina, lol na fear cause am. The woman has brought low some expensive fees, even agreeing a reduced salary and agent fee with Riaola. If the negiotation started who knows, Haaland would have joined for £130m or less

lordfalcao:
the club can easily look for a DM. To replace jorginho yet they are going for cm

That means they have accepted protecting him all season without the flexibility to go on the front foot consistently