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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 11:03am On Dec 23, 2016 |
agrovick: Dayo na Obj son.....him dey well skilled and trained to find a way out of tight angles. Na tortoise,catfish and cat mixed into one naim uncle D be.... 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:22am On Dec 23, 2016 |
A40: You are making noise about Ballack dragging Ramelow past USA and South Korea then claiming he was bullied by Lampard cos he had inferior teammates. Oya list that Bayern and Chelsea team that faced each other, lets see whether Bayern don't end up with half of the combined 11. I want to know whether Gallas is better than Lucio, whether Glen Johnson is better than Sagnol, whether Wayne Bridge is better than Lizarazu, whether Duff is better than Ze Roberto, whether Tiago is better than Schweisteiger or whether Gudjohnsen is better than Ballack. God forbid you tell us John Terry is better than any of the Bayern defenders ![]() ![]() List em modaphucka! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:34am On Dec 23, 2016 |
Why is Mourinho obsessed with Us.? Conte has never mentioned Mourinho or United in his presser before. What is Mou's problem? I don't wanna disrespect the greatest manager in our history. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 11:43am On Dec 23, 2016 |
A40:Your post is so full of dung, first paragraph you talk of Ballack dragging club and country to the Finals like he was the only one doing the job yes he might have been the best player of the team(arguably) but stop making it look like those others were complete shit. For Germany he had Kahn, klose to support him for leverkusen those two men you mentioned up there were the core of the defence that helped leverkusen to the final infact but for injury nowotny and ramelow would have also been the core of the defence for Germany in that WC Liverpool and Manchester United, not to mention the likes neuville, schneider, Basturk(part of the Turkey team that placed third at the Wc) all this guys impress for the team they were just unlucky to meet a better team same for both German and leverkusen team and in my digging i discovered that it was thanks to Ballack own goal that made them lose the league title they could have won to Bayern. So bro Ballack didn’t do anything out of the ordinary but i agree he was the best performer for both club and country. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:47am On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode: Ballack was a great player but he musta been cursed from his village. So you mean he is the reason Leverkusens name was changed to Neverkusen? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:56am On Dec 23, 2016 |
agrovick:No player can have a 100% big tournament record. Buffon, Ramos, Pirlo all went to tournaments and didn't pass group stage. Even Lampard himself. And it is even more understandable when the only other player that is world class in your squad is the GOALKEEPER. Still on still that did not stop Ballack from a World Cup and Euro Final while Lampard as usual with a star studded squad could not smell semi final. He along with England even failed to qualify for the Euros at a point. Abeg Lampard na one of the few English products I respect. Pass Gerrard and maybe even Scholes. That one no mean say una go come use that one dey disrespect a senior man like Ballack 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 11:59am On Dec 23, 2016 |
A40:For the first paragraph I agree Iniesta is a better player that lampard overall If it is about performance, titles, awards, technique,Iniesta is lampard Master and Saviour. But for the Second part bro I solemnly disagree lampard was Ballack master. Agreed in terms of skills, technique they are quite close but then the only time they faced each other lampard came out on Top when they were in the same team Lampard was in the front of him in the pecking order in terms of performance lampard outlived and outperformed him. I read your post up there saying it was thanks to Ballack that lamps made a UCL final, I laugh in ljesha dialect because your post lacks merit in the fact that lamps bossed that final and even made another UCL final and won without Ballack. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:08pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode: How is iniesta lampards master in terms of performance? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 12:10pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Ibime:I dey tell you na him Raumdeuter suppose give the title walking badluck. He was the one that made leverkusen lose the league title they could have won, in UCL and WC he met his masters that sent denied him of his glory. In Chelsea the season Manchester United defeated us in russia all the Finals(euro 2008,Ucl 2008, League Cup 2008) he played with us and Germany and in that year we(and he) lost, the only one he didn't play i.e fa cup final( in which lamps provided the assist to the goal that Drogba scored) we won that. I dey suspect say na him koba Terry sef cos till today i still don't understand the way Terry slipped on the floor it wasnt ordinary my brother. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:13pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode: ![]() ![]() ![]() I would not it put it past Ballacks dibia to tie Terrys destiny that day. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 12:19pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
diggz:Ha Bros i no fit lie bro Iniesta is Lamps master o. UCL Finals against Man utd it was him and Xavi that did the midfield magic, Euro 2008,2012 it was Iniesta and Xavi, WC final in south Africa it was him and Xavi. Bro the control he and Xavi had over the world for both country and club cannot be over rated or over-emphasied and not even lamps could match it. Let us give honour to whom honour is due i remembered at that time if you wanted to troll Messi suporters in arguments you would say without Iniesta and Xavi Messi is nothing. I say again Iniesta is lampard lord and personal Saviour as far football is concerned. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:28pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode:Bros you just dey yarn opaks. Which one player can drag a team to anything? Cool down Captain Obvious. The Klose you are talking about vanished after the first round. Germany didn't get to the Final because of Klose so kill that noise will ya? Ramelow also played at the World Cup so stop correcting megedefegede. I have been following the German national team over 2 decades no be today. Nobody said Ballack did it all by himself so I don't know why simple English is making you nauseous. What I said is Ballack did it with a lot less resources. For club and country 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 12:31pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
A40:The bolded above sums up everything about the comparing Ballack to his Master lampard- shyte. Right from the horses mouth. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:38pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode: Oga be not be deceived pls.....Performance is not a one time thing and is usually sampled over a particular period of time. Unless dayo who started the useless performing in big stages comesback here to take back his words, we will have to right off players like messi, giggs ,scholes,vidic ,ballack, nedved,etc . I refuse to except dayos bossing/beasting of finals as a yardstick to judge players. I will never except a situation whereby I am told, I could pass 500level only, fail from 100 to 400 level and still graduate with a first class from uni. Bruv, you want to compare lampards vs iniesta performance, yeah? Do it holistically...... Thank you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 12:41pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Arguments everywhere ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:42pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 12:48pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
A40:I respect your experience bro but i found fault in your post that was why I quote you because by using the word dragged you are implying that other team mates were just passengers doing nothing or next to nothing in those tournament i proved that wasn't so. Team efforts win trophies bro in the group stages Klose was the stand out, in the knockout Ballack was the stand out, throughout the tournament Kahn was superb. That team on it own were decent enough to win IMO they were just unlucky to meet the superior. In 2006 world cup that germany lost at semis weren't there talent in that team? Or was it another bunch of useless players. For leverkusen the team was decent enough to win just unlucky to meet a superior - madrid. The only players in this world that can claim that without them their team wouldn't have reached the level of success it achieve would be Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and even that can still be argued. Being the best performer in the team doesn't equal to 'dragging' a team to success, get that fact right bro. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 12:51pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
diggz:I agree with you but if you look at Iniesta case you would see that 'one time thing' cannot be used in regards to Iniesta at all. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 12:54pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Where's dayo o make hin come gimme my Xmas present ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:55pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Very useless argument, "drag", "beast" wtf is that in football that comprises of 11 players. Sentiments and hatred brought about all this irrelevant "yarns" in football matters. 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:57pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode: You cannot wait till every 2years or 4years to beast a final after failing to do same consistently over a season or more leading to the competition. Or we all should place goatze ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:14pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Na drag be the new one now? E come be like say na tug of war them dey argue about, not football 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:22pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode:We can also say the likes of Koke, Gabi are also better than Lampard since they beat him and outperformed him not once but twice. Drogba was also ahead of Shevchenko in the pecking order. Shebi Drogba was better than Shevchenko You think it is mere coincidence that Lampard had his career highs in goals and assists when guys like Ballack arrived. The intelligence and tactical discipline of Ballack was what made this happen. Midfield dominance goes beyond goals and assists and that is one of the reasons why Lampard could not cross CL semis even with his goals. Braah if you like laugh in Jukun. The fact is Ballack had gotten to a CL Final while Lampard was struggling with Viking from Norway. Thank God for Roman Abrahamovich wey come sponsor una else Lampard woulda been a rich man's Gareth Barry What of for England? Why did Lampard fail to get to even the semis of any major tournament while Ballack made the Euro and WC Final. Come and explain why Lampard was such an International flop? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:25pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
PietroRico: ![]() Beasting to bossing to dragging next we go hear digging and killing etc.... ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:34pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
pamcode:After Euro 2000. German International football went to shyte and a complete overhaul was necessary. Bayern after 2001's CL win also faded to black. It was an ageing squad and was also in a flux for years. Ballack was so good he was still able to squeeze a WC semi and World and Euro Finals out of the National team as the key man. He did it with Leverkusen at club level while Lampard was battling with Viking from Norway. Lampard woulda remained a nobody but for Roman's financial steroids that built a team that could challenge at home abroad Tell us why Master Lampard is a relative non-entity in International footie. This is why I love International football so much. Russian sugar daddies cannot buy a country and assemble players to bail out Lampard 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:10pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Ibime: See this Buzu. You don't even know the history of the club you support. Chelsea faced Liverpool the following season Where was your Lampard when Wesley Sneijder was defeacating on his cranium home and away in the CL. Ibime go kill us with lie for this forum oh. Ogini na fio? Lampard scored just 1 goal from the penalty spot. And guess who won the penalty? Playing as a midfield base and fulcrum that allowed Lampard to get to his first CL Final and reach highs in goals and assists is your definition of fetching water. I am not suprised at your Liliputian understanding of the game. Rakitic, Modric, Marchisio are all water carriers. Going by your definition. Only mugu Chelsea fans would label Ballack a failure considering his arrival coincided with a time your biggest title rival was arguably the best team in Europe reaching b2b CL Finals to boot. See this itiboribo. A 20y.o Schweinsteiger na him you dey take demonize Ballack? Se ori e pe sha? Kahn, Lizarazu at 36 years of age. Jesuu! The South Korea you are busy deriding without brake, jam or sense beat 4 European teams and knocked out 3 at that tournament (Poland, Portugal, Italy, Spain) so keep chatting megedefegede And while you are at it come and explain why Lampard could not lead England to even the semis of any major tournament 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:33pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Bimffo:disrespect how? ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 4:30pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Bimffo:The thing vex me sef?? How can he call us hyperdefensive?? Despite all the 'defensiveness' we have been through together ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:31pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
diggz: Lampard pre-ROman career because Roman bought worldclass players in Every position Almost all eleven position at Chelsea (minus Terry) was filled with top 3-5 players in their position so why wont Lampard shine. Compare that to what Ballack did at Leverkusen When you are playing with Cech top 5 Keeper in the world, Carvalho top 5 CB in the world, Cashley top 5 LB in the world, Makelele top 2 DM in the world, Drogba top 5 striker in the world, Essien top 5 CM in the world When Lampard had players in the level that Ballack played with in Leverkusen he was brutally molested by an Israeli club |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:38pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Ibime: Drogba and Deco were in lower leagues Lampard was in Chelsea a big club in England and was a useless player no better than Jody Morris When Ballack was dragging Leverkusen to the CL final Lampard was getting bleeped by an Israeli club Lampard was suddenly surrounded by top players and Roman money before he could do anything Lampard without Roman millions couldnt get England to a semi, Ballack got to a world cup final, world cup semi, Euro final all without money or gazillion award winning players around him |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:40pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
Ibime: Shebi Ballack team made the Euro, Lampard couldnt epp England to even qualify for the Euro 2008 at his peak Ballack made a Euro final Lampard shishi he no see not even semi Ballack made a world cup final Lampard shishi nothing gum am even semi he no see Lowest of Ballack he didnt qualify in a Euro group, Lowest of Lampard, he didnt even make the Euro Show us anything Lampard has done in football outside Roman billions. whether na National team or Pre Roman chelsea 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:42pm On Dec 23, 2016 |
agrovick: Shebi Ballacks lowest was that he couldnt take Germany out of a Euro group? Lampard couldnt even take England to the Euro So tell me how can we start discussing someone that failed in UNILAG when you cant even pass JAMB |
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