diggz:


I guess everyone chooses to see whatever they want to see in that statement.

FBS is simply trying to say he will pick 11 players who will give everything for the team like willian ahead of 11 flashy players(I am deliberately not using hazard as an example here) who are not ready to do the dirty work when needed.

diggz:


I guess everyone chooses to see whatever they want to see in that statement.

FBS is simply trying to say he will pick 11 players who will give everything for the team like willian ahead of 11 flashy players(I am deliberately not using hazard as an example here) who are not ready to do the dirty work when needed.

diggz:



No problem with that chief. The scoreline is still 3 - 1 in favour of cfc.

diggz:



Nope....and I will not pick hazard ahead of Willian either. They are both very useful to the team but in different ways.

Skimpledawg:
I would go with FBS here..


11 Willians over 11 hazards anytime any day.

Segadem:
Willian and Hazard were the case subject and he said he will choose 11 Willian over hazard

diggz:


I guess everyone chooses to see whatever they want to see in that statement.

FBS is simply trying to say he will pick 11 players who will give everything for the team like willian ahead of 11 flashy players(I am deliberately not using hazard as an example here) who are not ready to do the dirty work when needed.

Lana1:
Ko si problem. We go equalize soon enough. Una go soon come buy Smalling and Ashley Young

Nihilist:


For what it's worth, I also believe a team of Willians beats a team of Hazards, purely because Willian is more of a generalist player, while Hazard is a specialist

diggz:


I guess everyone chooses to see whatever they want to see in that statement.

FBS is simply trying to say he will pick 11 players who will give everything for the team like willian ahead of 11 flashy players(I am deliberately not using hazard as an example here) who are not ready to do the dirty work when needed.

airmark:


Who will be your starting front three in the image below?

Goodnuel:
They did horribly... The worst transfer window ever, to me.

SailorXY:
The easiest thing to do is putting your money where your mouth is.
You name a sum & will pay me if Man Utd wins the league, I'll pay you if Chelshit win it.

If neither wins it we will send the combined sum to Charity.

nateevs:



Firstly, there is no need to eject the specificity of the debate. It is a straight Hazard/Willian one.

On the topic, bearing in mind the qualities of just those two players, what is wrong with the statement is that it is made on the assumption that that a team of Hazard cannot/will not defend. And that's not true.

Secondly, I always lean on the side of technical flexibility. A team of Hazards can be taught how to defend tactically because they have a high technical ceiling. And then there's no use over flogging the potency of their attack. Whereas a team of Willians will keep running around looking like they are doing a lot, when in actual fact there are average defenders and very poor attackers. Unfortunately they cannot be taught how to attack. Their technical ability is limited.


So No; It's not what I want to see. It's debate of technical ability and flexibility.

Xlpacks:
$100. Chelsea Wins.. Are u Game?

nateevs:



Firstly, there is no need to eject the specificity of the debate. It is a straight Hazard/Willian one.

On the topic, bearing in mind the qualities of just those two players, what is wrong with the statement is that it is made on the assumption that that a team of Hazard cannot/will not defend. And that's not true.

Secondly, I always lean on the side of technical flexibility. A team of Hazards can be taught how to defend tactically because they have a high technical ceiling. And then there's no use over flogging the potency of their attack. Whereas a team of Willians will keep running around looking like they are doing a lot, when in actual fact there are average defenders and very poor attackers. Unfortunately they cannot be taught how to attack. Their technical ability is limited.


So No; It's not what I want to see. It's a debate of technical ability and flexibility.

diggz:


Airmark pls we need your help here

timbros:


How did you arrive at the bolded conclusions?

Anyway that apart. The comparison FBS made, I believe, is what both players can offer right now NOT what they can be taught to do.

And I'm with him on this. 11 Willians right now will win 11 Hazards.

nateevs:



Firstly, there is no need to eject the specificity of the debate. It is a straight Hazard/Willian one.

On the topic, bearing in mind the qualities of just those two players, what is wrong with the statement is that it is made on the assumption that that a team of Hazard cannot/will not defend. And that's not true.

Secondly, I always lean on the side of technical flexibility. A team of Hazards can be taught how to defend tactically because they have a high technical ceiling. And then there's no use over flogging the potency of their attack. Whereas a team of Willians will keep running around looking like they are doing a lot, when in actual fact there are average defenders and very poor attackers. Unfortunately they cannot be taught how to attack. Their technical ability is limited.


So No; It's not what I want to see. It's a debate of technical ability and flexibility.

Xlpacks:
Yes.. I'm ready to stake

diggz:


SailorXY Ur man says he can do 100bucks.... kindly revert if you are ok with it. We can choose airmark,f funlord or Nihilist to keep your bets.

raumdeuter:


chelseafan1

Segadem:
willing Willian willing to �run

diggz:


SailorXY Ur man says he can do 100bucks.... kindly revert if you are ok with it. We can choose airmark,f funlord or Nihilist to keep your bets.

diggz:

1. Bearing in mind the qualities of just those two players, it is not a wrong assumption that a team of Hazard cannot/will not defend. It is simply a fact. They are mentally not wired to labour for 90mins or do the dirty job for 90mins even though you want us to believe they can be taught.

2. When mou was busy forcing players like hazard to do more defensively we were here reading epistles on how he was being shackled with defensive duties. epistles on how he should be freed to create more,score more blah blah blah blah.......bros I really cannot see how a team of hazard even when taught to defend will do better than that of willian.

3. We can argue higher ceiling and what not....but I have seen great teams filled with special talents who couldn't compete or do anything against a team of runners or workaholics like Willian.

4. Take a look at klops liverpool vs arsenal as at last week for example....where is the hazard type of player in that team? All I saw was 11 willing runners....willing to run for 90mins,fight for each ball,win tackles etc...

5. Now.....i am not trying to downplay the effect hazard brings to the team however we shouldn't forget that, we only had willing runners against spurs not too long ago and we came out victorious.

Funlordjnr:



Ah! Sailorxy don't let me down.....lets take their Russian roubles no matter how little it may seem since swansea arsenal Juve and everton refused to! I am even adding N1k extra for sailor!

jaysmallz:

airmark:
If chelsea after knocking out a brilliant barca team and went ahead to destroy bayern in their stadium, sending their fans into serious mourning, 11 willians can do that to 11 hazards.

But we all know the difference between apple and mango.