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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On May 22, 2018
Ibime:


Calm down. Tournament only last 5 matches or 7 at most, not 50 matches.

Those 10 minute aerial balls to Fellaini could be the difference between getting knocked out and advancing.

You have to have tournament mindset to know what coach is thinking.

It's the same reason Giroud and co go to every tournament not Lacazette, or the same reason Cameroon will call 42 year old Roger Milla from Reunion league just for that 10 mins when he will provide the difference.

Martinez no get time to carry Naingollan who can't be an impact substitute, and cannot start either.


I think Naingollan has the ability to start in the Dembele Naingolla KDB midfield, I dont know if there is another Belgian midfielderin better form than the 3
Also Fellaini has his use which can be the life saver in a knockout game. So adding Fellaini isn't as outrageous as some people are making it to be

I feel Naingollan and Fellaini should be joining the team and some of those other useless players loading the team from Chinese league, Chadli or some unnecesary defender
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 4:20pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Ask Chelsea fans if they will take KDB Salah or DDG and see how many of them will jump at the offer.
I am hoping Bayern buys a winger but never hoped its Hazard because we have one activity former currently like that called Ribery
amateur eyes will watch our games and say Ribery is trying but since 2015 na Hazard activity forming baba dey give us

Lmao grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 4:21pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


You are the most ignorant person on this forum only the madrid5 tool is trying t beat your record

My name is afrodoc, and i co-sign this statement.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:21pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:
Why is everyone making this about Naingollan vs Fellaini? Is Fellaini the only one in the team?

Belgium picked guys like Kabasele, Chadli(who barely played this season) Januzaj, Boyata, Hidden Hazard(no purpose atilogwu dancer), Witsel and Carasco(both play in China)

The Belgian coach is probably a dumb guy who has personal issues with Naingollan cos both Naingollan and Fellaini could have made the team without issues

The only one I don't understand there is Janusaj.

Belgium play with 3 CBs, and after Verma, Kompany, Verthongen and Aldeweireld, Kabasele and Boyata are the next best to complete 6 CBs. Although I would have taken only 5.

Carasca plays LWB for them. They have no other LWB except Lukakus brother. So Carrasco LWB, Muenier RWB. Carrasco will actually start.

In the 2 winger positions, they have Eden, Meertens as confirmed guys. Then you have to go to Thorgan and Chadli as no 3 and 4. Of all those, only Chadli is a confirmed goalscorer bar Meertens. After that, you are plumbing the depth of Mirallas and Janusaj. Which is why Chadli is a confirmed top 4 winger in Belgium.

The only odd man out is Naingollan who cannot play in a 2 man midfield cos of his loose touch and passing. The formation does not fit him, just like Chelsea's 3-4-3 formation did not fit Zouma even though I would take him over Luiz, Cahill and Azpi in a 2 man centre-back partnership.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:22pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


I think Naingollan has the ability to start in the Dembele Naingolla KDB midfield, I dont know if there is another Belgian midfielderin better form than the 3
Also Fellaini has his use which can be the life saver in a knockout game. So adding Fellaini isn't as outrageous as some people are making it to be

I feel Naingollan and Fellaini should be joining the team and some of those other useless players loading the team from Chinese league, Chadli or some unnecesary defender

There are only 2 midfielders in Belgium setup. Naingollan is not a good pivot midfielder. His touch and passing are too loose. He can't force Belgium to change formation that has been working for them. Who is he? Pele?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:25pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Overrated legends like Modric Busquets, Vidal, Matic, Yaya Toure Keane, Viera
No absolute reason abi?



Now the world now knows juan mata was a better midfielder than both schweinsterger and micheal ballack.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:25pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


You can nack your head for stone, nothing will make Hidden Hazard be a useful player, No wonder his team cannot make top 4, when they depend on that type of useless player
that is how you keep telling lies. I thought you told us today that it was Martinez that made him captain, when he has already been made vice captain by marc.

Go collect the armband from am nah.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:27pm On May 22, 2018
JUAN MATA is a better midfielder than both schweinsterger and micheal ballack cos those 2 were forming activities throughout their careers that prevented them from ever topping assist chart.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:31pm On May 22, 2018
Ibime:


The only one I don't understand there is Janusaj.

Belgium play with 3 CBs, and after Verma, Kompany, Verthongen and Aldeweireld, Kabasele and Boyata are the next best to complete 6 CBs. Although I would have taken only 5.

Carasca plays LWB for them. They have no other LWB except Lukakus brother. So Carrasco LWB, Muenier RWB. Carrasco will actually start.

In the 2 winger positions, they have Eden, Meertens as confirmed guys. Then you have to go to Thorgan and Chadli as no 3 and 4. Of all those, only Chadli is a confirmed goalscorer bar Meertens. After that, you are plumbing the depth of Mirallas and Janusaj. Which is why Chadli is a confirmed top 4 winger in Belgium.

The only odd man out is Naingollan who cannot play in a 2 man midfield cos of his loose touch and passing. The formation does not fit him, just like Chelsea's 3-4-3 formation did not fit Zouma even though I would take him over Luiz, Cahill and Azpi in a 2 man centre-back partnership.



With 3 central, do they play 3-4-3 or 3-5-2
Carasco is not defensive enough to play as a LWB.

Playing with 2 midfield will burn them unless they plan to dominate possesion heavily for KDB to control the play. In a 2 man midifield where KDB is one of those might end up overworking the other midfielder

Attack is simply Merter to the right Lukaku middle and Hazard

Defenders: Toby Alderweireld, Dedryck Boyata, Leander Dendoncker, Laurent Ciman, Christian Kabasele, Vincent Kompany, Jordan Lukaku, Thomas Meunier, Thomas Vermaelen, Jan Vertonghen

Midfielders: Yannick Carrasco, Kevin De Bruyne, Nacer Chadli, Mousa Dembele, Marouane Fellaini, Eden Hazard, Thorgan Hazard, Adnan Januzaj, Dries Mertens, Youri Tielemans, Axel Witsel

Forwards: Michy Batshuayi, Christian Benteke, Romelu Lukaku

Look at that midfield, I think its light on markers and has too many guys who offer the same ninny dribbling and stupid ball skills. If Dembele misses a game ot get injured they are exposed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:32pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Why cant Hazard shut us up in Chelsea for the past 6 seasons. why wait until he can benefit from the work of others. Very useless and unproductive player

6yrs in Chelsea never topped goals nor assists for the club or in the league
can you put your money on your last paragraph?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:32pm On May 22, 2018
Ibime:


There are only 2 midfielders in Belgium setup. Naingollan is not a good pivot midfielder. His touch and passing are too loose. He can't force Belgium to change formation that has been working for them. Who is he? Pele?

How has this formation been working for them? Most countries and teams now play a variation of 4-3-3 playing 2 midfielders is just going to get run over when your attackers arent guys who defend like that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:33pm On May 22, 2018
popizaino:
JUAN MATA is a better midfielder than both schweinsterger and micheal ballack cos those 2 were forming activities throughout their careers that prevented them from ever topping assist chart.

Schweinsteiger was a CL and world cup winner and an important part of the team what of Mata? Mata ko Mary ni
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:34pm On May 22, 2018
Greatihex:
that is how you keep telling lies. I thought you told us today that it was Martinez that made him captain, when he has already been made vice captain by marc.

Go collect the armband from am nah.

And is Marc not useless just like Martinez who continued. Thats why Chelsea managers will rather give Azpi the band than Hidden
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:35pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Schweinsteiger CL winner, WOrld cup winner. Tell us about Hidden Hazard
I carefully avoided trying to compare a winger to a midfielder so do the same for yourself.


Agreed by me that eden hazard is an activity former as a winger cos he couldn't top assist can you pls accept that both ballack and schweinsterger are both activities former too for the same reason?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:37pm On May 22, 2018
popizaino:
I carefully avoided trying to compare a winger to a midfielder so do the same for yourself.


Agreed by me that eden hazard is an activity former as a winger cos he couldn't top assist can you pls accept that both ballack and schweinsterger are both activities former too for the same reason?

Yet who was the person that mentioned Juan Mata below in comparison with Schweini and Ballack

popizaino:
JUAN MATA is a better midfielder than both schweinsterger and micheal ballack cos those 2 were forming activities throughout their careers that prevented them from ever topping assist chart.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:37pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


With 3 central, do they play 3-4-3 or 3-5-2
Carasco is not defensive enough to play as a LWB.

Playing with 2 midfield will burn them unless they plan to dominate possesion heavily for KDB to control the play. In a 2 man midifield where KDB is one of those might end up overworking the other midfielder

Attack is simply Merter to the right Lukaku middle and Hazard

Defenders: Toby Alderweireld, Dedryck Boyata, Leander Dendoncker, Laurent Ciman, Christian Kabasele, Vincent Kompany, Jordan Lukaku, Thomas Meunier, Thomas Vermaelen, Jan Vertonghen

Midfielders: Yannick Carrasco, Kevin De Bruyne, Nacer Chadli, Mousa Dembele, Marouane Fellaini, Eden Hazard, Thorgan Hazard, Adnan Januzaj, Dries Mertens, Youri Tielemans, Axel Witsel

Forwards: Michy Batshuayi, Christian Benteke, Romelu Lukaku

Look at that midfield, I think its light on markers and has too many guys who offer the same ninny dribbling and stupid ball skills. If Dembele misses a game ot get injured they are exposed

They play 3-4-2-1. Na wetin I dey tell una since. Naingollan has no place there. Dembele is not even a starting player for them.


-----------Aldeweireld-----Kompany-----Verthongen

Muenier-----------Witsel---------De-Bruyne-----------Carrasco

----------Meertens---------------------------Hazard

------------------------------Lukaku


It's actually the best formation for them cos they have 3 good CBs but no good fullbacks. Carrasco has been doing alright at LWB cos he's physical and Verthongen is covering him. Don't be surprised to see Fellaini step in for Witsel though.

Martinez wanted to move De-Bruyne and Hazard far from each other cos they were crowding each other out in the upper 3rd of the pitch. That's when Martinez got the idea to move KDB to DM to control the lower half of the pitch and leave Hazard to it in the upper half. That's where Pep copied the idea of moving KDB to CM from.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:41pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


And is Marc not useless just like Martinez who continued. Thats why Chelsea managers will rather give Azpi the band than Hidden
is that the same reason why real madrid managers will rather have marcelo has their captain than ronaldo too? grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:43pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Yet who was the person that mentioned Juan Mata below in comparison with Schweini and Ballack

Yes I did that cos they are all midfielders and the the face saving ones you did in comparison of a winger with a midfielder?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:44pm On May 22, 2018
popizaino:
is that the same reason why real madrid managers will rather have marcelo has their captain than ronaldo too? grin grin

Marcelo got to Madrid when Ronaldo was still in man utd thus he has seniority. Every one knows this except you

Tell us how and why Azpilicueta is preferred to hidden hazard if not for hazard uselessness

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:45pm On May 22, 2018
popizaino:
Yes I did that cos they are all midfielders and the the face saving ones you did in comparison of a winger with a midfielder?

Mata is a winger, Schweinsteiger Ballack are not. They are defensive midfielders
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:47pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


And is Marc not useless just like Martinez who continued. Thats why Chelsea managers will rather give Azpi the band than Hidden
who is portugal captain?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:49pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Mata is a winger, Schweinsteiger Ballack are not. They are defensive midfielders
yes mata is a winger just to save face.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:50pm On May 22, 2018
popizaino:
yes mata is a winger just to save face.
There is a reason people watch games and not just go to websites.

Anyone that has been watching Mata will tell you he is playing on the right wing

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:52pm On May 22, 2018
Greatihex:
who is portugal captain?

Your Google spoil? Abi which kain foolish question is this. Who doesn't know it's Ronaldo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:56pm On May 22, 2018
Ibime:


They play 3-4-2-1. Na wetin I dey tell una since. Naingollan has no place there. Dembele is not even a starting player for them.


-----------Aldeweireld-----Kompany-----Verthongen

Muenier-----------Witsel---------De-Bruyne-----------Carrasco

----------Meertens---------------------------Hazard

------------------------------Lukaku


It's actually the best formation for them cos they have 3 good CBs but no good fullbacks. Carrasco has been doing alright at LWB cos he's physical and Verthongen is covering him. Don't be surprised to see Fellaini step in for Witsel though.

Martinez wanted to move De-Bruyne and Hazard far from each other cos they were crowding each other out in the upper 3rd of the pitch. That's when Martinez got the idea to move KDB to DM to control the lower half of the pitch and leave Hazard to it in the upper half. That's where Pep copied the idea of moving KDB to CM from.
Chair, I dobale for you. You dey see well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:00pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


Your Google spoil? Abi which kain foolish question is this. Who doesn't know it's Ronaldo
who is madrid captain?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 5:05pm On May 22, 2018
Unlimited22:

Chair, I dobale for you. You dey see well.

And raumdeuter told us some fatty elements has covered pa Ibimz eyes. angry

Skimpledawg please 2 Pete edochie for Raumdeuter angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:05pm On May 22, 2018
Greatihex:
who is madrid captain?

Ramos
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 5:05pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:
tongue

Ramos

cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 5:05pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:


See this fooll. WHen I call you a fool this is the evidence here

Prove that Liverpool is greater than Bayern and stake money on it or remain the mumu you are. Its one thing to be ignorant like hensben to now add the foolishness of airmark to it makes it outstanding
I thought I was the only one that noticed those two grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:06pm On May 22, 2018
elrony:


cheesy cheesy cheesy

Abeg do you understand his questions or the motives for it cos its sounding silly to me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:11pm On May 22, 2018
raumdeuter:

There is a reason people watch games and not just go to websites.

Anyone that has been watching Mata will tell you he is playing on the right wing

what happen to you also telling us how c.ronaldo and messi usually plays forward while hazard plays mostly as a winger and act as our play maker atimes.

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