diadem10:

Created many chances? You mean by cutting back after being released on the counter by Pogba? Lol.

Dey there dey ask yeye question on why Lemar had less than stellar season for a depleted Monaco side. You go see the answer in your dream. I wan sleep.

diadem10:

Muller was quicker than now. He's lost that bit of acceleration, only a clueless person would say otherwise.
And nope, Rooney was never our best player in any of our title win. Nani, Cr7, Rvp were. Yeye.

Ibime:
In 2006, World record transfer was £50m for Zidane from 2001. No one will think to bid £40m then for Owen, but 18 year old Messi was receiving bid of €150m.

There is difference between exciting talent and phenomenom please.

Vanquay:

That Barca director is lieing out of his ass...nobody would bid 100m+ for Messi then
Infact I can't think of any big club that would be interested in him.

Vanquay:

That Barca director is lieing out of his ass...nobody would bid 100m+ for Messi then
Infact I can't think of any big club that would be interested in him.

A40:


You have gone from speed to acceleration, small time you go soon begin talk of velocity. Confused human being! Only a complete numpty would mention speed and Mueller in the same sentence cos Mueller has never been quick to the point where a drop in acceleration or speed would possibly hurt his game.

diadem10:

What's this one saying sef? When did Lemar ever become part of Deschamps' worldcup plan? Deschamps that set off with a front trio of Mbappe, Griez and Dembele, only to realise Griez looked shite in such setup. In fact, Dembele was the best player in that set-up but was quite wasteful infront of goal hence had to be dropped.

And I repeat, as long as Deschamp set up with Monaco's tactic, Mbappe and Lemar were competing for the same role.

Also, do I need to remind you Neymar had a long injury lay off? In fact, Neymar's form at the worldcup is an example of a player coming into his previous form after a dip unlike Mbappe who got found out for a possession team only to wake up for a counter attacking team that suits his average technique + pace merchant skill. Drop mic.

airmark:


Both of una fit unaself, but the highlighted is very wrong. Kanu for example, despite his style at his peak in arsenal, was swifter than the one that played for Portsmouth in 2011/2012. All footballers lose their quickness later, which affects their quality. Muller's is shocking considering his age, unless you just want to deliberately lie. Against madrid in the ucl, it was evident. At the world cup, it was confirmed he has lost it.

A40:
Lmaooo your example is a 36 year old Kanu (football age) experiencing football rigor mortis. Don't confuse the complete lack of ability to compete at elite league level to a loss of speed. Its like you telling me Berbatov or Mario Gomez has lost his quickness. Does that make any kind of sense?

Mueller's problem is not a lack of speed! What he has lost is his positioning and spatial awareness, his failure to improve his technique, poor outside shooting among some other flaws

airmark:


He is not as swift with the ball as the Muller of 4 years ago. It has nothing to do with positioning. I just used Kanu's example to tell you that a player not known for his speed could still get his quality degraded, when the swiftness in his game dwindles. Rooney didn't reach 36 before his game dropped and couldn't play his role on the field like before.

Does Muller live in a brothel or spend his life outside the pitch in a beer parlour?

A40:
Again Mueller's game has never been predicated on speed, speed of thought yes but not actual physical speed! Check his goals and I bet you less than 10% would require any form of speed

Quit using extreme old age examples to present an argument. Kanu's decline had nothing to do with speed! The muhfugga just got old! And that's why I countered with the Berbatov example

Do you know how long Rooney has been playing? You are waiting for a guy who has been playing professional football since age 16 to get to age 36 before showing signs of decline? Get real! Not everybody can be a machine like Ronaldo.

Few players drop more than 5 seasons of consistent excellence without a drop, Mueller has been balling since 2009-2010 it's not beans baba

airmark:


Nobody said Muller hasn't tried, the point is, he has declined in his swiftness on the ball, which you refused to accept.

Balling since 2009-2010 is impressive but that's not unheard of. Modric just won the best player award in Russia at 32. I know you know how long he has been doing his thing at the top. I am not taking anything away from Muller, i still believe he can still return to his peak. When you see a spade, call it its name.

A40:
What does it matter if a non-dribbler like Mueller loses his swiftness on the ball? People are usually more scared of Mueller without the ball by default

I have highlighted the reasons for Mueller's struggles in my post and they have nothing to do with pace

For every Modric I could give you 10 midfielders two years older or younger that have faded to oblivion within similar timeframe. Besides its not like he didn't have seasons of struggle within similar timeframe

airmark:


You mentioned positioning as one of his issues. I don't want to go into details of how loss of swiftness can affect your off the ball movements/positioning. You can easily figure it out.

A40:
That is not related to speed my guy. You don't need any kind of elite speed or swiftness to possess elite positioning skills. Its why the best defenders are not necessarily the quickest, I can go on and on even into other sports

airmark:

See how Muller got himself into this scoring position and tell me he didn't need pace. He doesn't do this like before again.

airmark:


You must be joking. Because the camera with the control, most times focused mainly on the man with the ball on your tv screen, you wouldn't know the runs made by other attackers to get into scoring positions. It's obvious you never played football.

See how Muller got himself into this scoring position and tell me he didn't need pace. He doesn't do this like before again.

Continue arguing with diadem, outta here.

Ibime:


I've always thought Muller good pace especially for a CAM. . . at least according to what my eyes have always noticed.

I always doubt myself when I see our Nairaland Bayern boys claiming he has no pace or physicality. Since they watch him each week, I would be inclined to believe them and start to doubt my own eyes. My eye must be paining me.

A40:
Speed is relative. Would you play Mueller on your wings just on the back of that gif? Nobody describes Mueller as slow but if we could compile a list of top 20 quickest forwards would Mueller be there? Even in his adjudged prime

Ibime:


I've always thought Muller good pace especially for a CAM. . . at least according to what my eyes have always noticed.

I always doubt myself when I see our Nairaland Bayern boys claiming he has no pace or physicality. Since they watch him each week, I would be inclined to believe them and start to doubt my own eyes. My eye must be paining me.

Ibime:


Winger is not his primary position. Compared to other CAMS, he should be in the top 10% for pace.

Ibime:


Winger is not his primary position. Compared to other CAMS, he should be in the top 10% for pace.

Ibime:


Is the Intermilan owner lying as well?

https://forzaitalianfootball.com/2017/09/moratti-inter-sign-messi-unfair-barcelona/

raumdeuter:


Only a reetard will expect the same output from a winger as with a striker that Owen is

Maybe wikipedia didnt tell you that owen was a winger

airmark:


I thought he was added as a goal keeper.

Unlimited22:

Which back did they back Conte?
You'd better be praying Sarri isn't backed the way Conte was or you'll be calling for his head by November.

Ibime:


Messi was 19 when he did this. Them no born that youth corper Melvyn11 well to dey comment on things he never witnessed.

You can see Eidur Gudjohnsen holding his head in disbelief at the bottom of the screen.

A40:

MUGU-ruza so the back heel Mbappe used to serve Giroud a chance on a plate vs Belgium it was Pogba that released him on the counter abi? Oniranu

I will be waiting for you to come and explain why Rony Lopes and Keita Balde outperformed Lemar in that depleted Monaco team. Excuse merchant


You have gone from speed to acceleration, small time you go soon begin talk of velocity. Confused human being! Only a complete numpty would mention speed and Mueller in the same sentence cos Mueller has never been quick to the point where a drop in acceleration or speed would possibly hurt his game.

Who said Rooney was your best player in your league title win? I don't see how simple English keeps flying over your head! Can you disprove that Rooney delivered when asked to lead the line?

Vanquay:


That article makes no mention of an official bid. It's just a bunch of could have, would have, should have...If someone wants to break the Transfer record was it Inter Milan on an 18yr old...That man was referring to a younger Messi not the 18/19yr old tearing up La Liga...here's your guy talking. It's clear there was never a real official bid...once again the Barca director is lieing out of his ass like the typical barcabot.

"There was a time when we discussed his signing but he was brought up by Barcelona and it would have been very bad to sign him without involving them."