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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:16am On Oct 27, 2018
Wow great observation. Thought before I was the only one that noticed this great change in football.
raumdeuter:



I know this post was from last year when you responded to my post on City against Man Utd but I you brought it up recently and think it reinforces some believes I have held recently

I think in the last 15yrs football changed. Football is faster more technical the big giant players have been sacrificed for smaller, shorter, very mobile lighter players. Nowadays players cover 13-15km easily in a game, I bet in the 80s hardly will players cover 9km. Now it favours guys that can run fast and run longer. So bigger guys will suffer

Also it eliminated specialists for generalists. Think of it, when did the requirement for a goalkeeper start including playing with his feet. Older keepers are just evaluated based on the saves they can make and reflexes now their ball playing skills is almost as important as shot stopping

Now Central defenders. Gone were the days when the job of a defender is to stop attack and boot the ball away, Now every defender has to be able to play from the back even if their defensive abilities suffer. Also rules of the games have changed, the tackles you shake hands over in the 80s will land you in jail now, Center backs were allowed to be slow and mean. Now they have to be as fast as everyone. Tactics changed too. Now its more dependent on space than before, thats why almost every top team will play a high line and have a 40yards free space between last defender and keeper. So pace is key.

For a DM before it was ability to tackle, now its your ability to cover space and pass(Busquets). The AM of old were hardly required to do any defensive work, they were the king just pass the ball to them and they will create chances with their brilliance and elegance, Nowadays they are expected to run and press. Wingers are not only expected to cross they are expected to be a major source of goals. The olden days winger got dropped to full backs(Jesus Navas, Young, Valencia)

Now to attack, This is where the 9 suffered because they couldn't cope with the pace, they got eliminated almost completely and the Support striker who had more ball holding skills, who can drop deep were made to bulk up and play as lone strikers, Most strikers for top clubs at the beginning of their careers were support strikers. Morata Lewandoski, Benzema Suarez, Aguero, Henry, RvP. Its not uncommon to evaluate strikers on how much they can hold up play, pass, play with their back to goal instead of the old fashioned fox in the box who just stick it in the net

Tactics also changed. 4-4-2 which was the preferred tactics then favored target men. Now a 442 will most certainly lose to a 443, 5231 or 451 because the 2 men in front wont even get the ball since the midfield will be outnumbered

Also football went more scientific not just based on natural abilities, modern techniques were introduced into training, diets and match analysis where every coach is using technology to gain some advantage. Before its common to see footballers drink and smoke. Mario Basler was a chain smoker, Old highlights of matches I have seen some players smoke on the sidelines. Nowadays you cannot, you are placed on a strict diet and training regimen.

Football changed and the target men were the major casualty
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:19am On Oct 27, 2018
hensben:
Wow great observation. Thought before I was the only one that noticed this great change in football.
Wait, wait, you agree with raumdeuter on something?
My eyes have seen my ears.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:14am On Oct 27, 2018
chelseabmw:


I’m here sire
u re too incognito as a masterchief of this thread..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:25am On Oct 27, 2018
airmark:

Same can't be said about Neymar, who was even considering quitting football after the debacle of a world cup he had.

We have many Zunigas waiting for him in epl.


Ibime:

I'm in kangaroo court for making lions flee/ and setting tigers free/
I'm a Zoo nigga. . .so niggas trying me/. . .will get their back broken. . . from a flying knee!/
That's Neymar puns/ from birth to puberty. . . I raised ma guns/
In other words. . . I been shooting AR-15s. . . since they were AR-1's!!!/

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 7:25am On Oct 27, 2018
See bars na
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:22am On Oct 27, 2018
Elnino4ladies:
See bars na

OG on the prowl.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 8:46am On Oct 27, 2018
grin grin

50cent bought 200 front row seat to ja rules concert to make it look empty

Bully on another level...lmao

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:51am On Oct 27, 2018
Emaprince:
grin grin

50cent bought 200 front row seat to ja rules concert to make it look empty

Bully on another level...lmao
common jarule,

Nigga been trying harder to come back to hip hop, pobly hip hop has walked past him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:51am On Oct 27, 2018
Unlimited22:

Wait, wait, you agree with raumdeuter on something?
My eyes have seen my ears.
the truth is ruamdeuter knows football. Forget

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 9:53am On Oct 27, 2018
See lyrics grin cheesy grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:10am On Oct 27, 2018
lordfalcao:
the truth is ruamdeuter knows football. Forget

Your mentor knows football, before nko? As if you get balls to attack someone who claimed Morata was excelling, while missing empty nets up and down?

raumdeuter:


Morata That you lampooned is playing in the same setup with hazard and Morata is doing well in it

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 10:28am On Oct 27, 2018
airmark:



Sorry , I never called Sallah a weakling before Liverpool signed him. In fact, i watched Sallah tormenting Marcelo all night in Roma's colours and was wowed. He was not doing senseless steps over. Wasn't surprised Klopp went for him and he took it from there. Same can't be said about Neymar, who was even considering quitting football after the debacle of a world cup he had.

We have many Zunigas waiting for him in epl.

I don't even need to talk about that sluggish busquets who has been exposed after Xavi left Barca and the Spanish national team.

Lmao.. So Salah wasn't a weakling at Roma because he tormented Marcelo.

How about Neymar that tormented Carvajal, Juanfran, Spain, Bayern and PSG's defence and so on? Is that who you still refer to as a weakling?


And you're yet to answer my question. Was Salah better than Neymar before Liverpool signed him?

Concerning Busquests, He is still top notch only that the team now has some lapses which is affecting him one way or the other
If you watched the match against Inter Milan on Wednesday and you still think he's a weakling then your case don enter spiritual level.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 10:32am On Oct 27, 2018
hensben:
How can someone that will not like to play under a defensive coach better than Hazard. Can you even hear yourself.

Greizman under a defensive minded coach ended third in WPOTY ranking after Ronaldo and Messi.

Hazard has no excuse. He has played under Benitez, Mourinho and Conte yet still has bad number of goals.

He's not all that.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 10:34am On Oct 27, 2018
Airmark and lordfalcao sha. From Belotti v Lacazette to Van Dijk v Rudiger. Is there anything you guys even agree on? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:48am On Oct 27, 2018
lordfalcao:
the truth is ruamdeuter knows football. Forget
That's not the point. The point is that hensben and raumdeuter are best of enemies.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:34am On Oct 27, 2018
TLona1:


Lmao.. So Salah wasn't a weakling at Roma because he tormented Marcelo.

How about Neymar that tormented Carvajal, Juanfran, Spain, Bayern and PSG's defence and so on? Is that who you still refer to as a weakling?


And you're yet to answer my question. Was Salah better than Neymar before Liverpool signed him?

Concerning Busquests, He is still top notch only that the team now has some lapses which is affecting him one way or the other
If you watched the match against Inter Milan on Wednesday and you still think he's a weakling then your case don enter spiritual level.

Salah was Roma's best player before joining Liverpool, it's not about tormenting Marcelo alone as you trickishly wanted to twist my view. He wasn't a weakling diving up and down to gain advantage on the pitch.

If you think I just started calling busquets a weakling, not meant for epl, you must be a newbie on Barcelona thread.

Neymar will rather prefer to stay in Spain, France or wherever the likes of Morata will prefer to play than face the rigours of epl weekly. He is smart.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:37am On Oct 27, 2018
pkasso:
Airmark and lordfalcao sha. From Belotti v Lacazette to Van Dijk v Rudiger. Is there anything you guys even agree on? grin

We both agree that Morata is excelling right now.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:29pm On Oct 27, 2018
timbros:


Don't worry when season end we go know who the cane go fit...

But wait o, this hurricane in the last 3 pages na because of you? Who you offend?

No idea about the hurricane man
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:32pm On Oct 27, 2018
raumdeuter:


I think modern athletes work harder and are more scrutinized that their predecessors. At a small age, you are expected to be a top level athelete, wake up early, follow a strict exercise, training and diet regimen. Never misyarn, never nack the wrong hoe. Must be perfect from age 19 and given millions and you cannot even use cocaine not even some pain killers else youll fail drug test.

Diggz with the change he get, you know how many girls he don give belle for Abraka cheesy Imagine say na him dem give 10k Pounds a week, Naija population for don double

Its tough but they get paid very well for it.

Those things George Best tried with women those days, If it was now, he will be in jail, See the one Ronaldo is facing currently

Those days some footballers were barely fit to run, they were easily gassed. If you watch some of the ball played in the 80s and 90s its like at snail speed right now, I still remember those days when Maradona Valderama etc will be rolling belle and nyansh for field after dem don smoke igbo finish
if you see some teams counter like City or MSN you will think its an Olympic 100m dash

I saw one Ronaldo documentary and his training was insane, There was one they did the will take a corner kick and immediately turn off the light. Ronaldo in the darkness will still try to nod the ball into the net

Baba weyrey....fvck you very much and no thanks!

I see the place wey you dash me 40s or close to late 30s for age wey I never be or reach.......now n.a. abraka girls I give belle?

Dayo talk true....are you onuku?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:39pm On Oct 27, 2018
He is not all that just cos of not scoring loads of goals huh.
TLona1:


Greizman under a defensive minded coach ended third in WPOTY ranking after Ronaldo and Messi.

Hazard has no excuse. He has played under Benitez, Mourinho and Conte yet still has bad number of goals.

He's not all that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:42pm On Oct 27, 2018
I only have issue with him cos he likes to berate Hazard all the time. He is too sentimental, that’s my issue with him.
Unlimited22:

That's not the point. The point is that hensben and raumdeuter are best of enemies.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:42pm On Oct 27, 2018
airmark:


Your mentor knows football, before nko? As if you get balls to attack someone who claimed Morata was excelling, while missing empty nets up and down?



when it comes to making constructive football analysis. You can't clean ruamdeuter feet

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:43pm On Oct 27, 2018
pkasso:
Airmark and lordfalcao sha. From Belotti v Lacazette to Van Dijk v Rudiger. Is there anything you guys even agree on? grin
we both agreed rudiger served him an L

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 2:58pm On Oct 27, 2018
What a boring Saturday.
Make I manage Liverpool match jare.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:09pm On Oct 27, 2018
Nihilistjnr, your boy don do am again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:12pm On Oct 27, 2018
Lol. Who just saw Roberto Pereyra's goal now?
I swear you can't score my class team that kind of goal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:22pm On Oct 27, 2018
What a goal by Deulofeu.
Huddersfield Town are being blown away...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EarthXmetahuman: 3:54pm On Oct 27, 2018
the type of bus cadiff is packing again liverpool is out of this world grin

mourinho will be proud.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:58pm On Oct 27, 2018
EarthXmetahuman:
the type of bus cadiff is packing again liverpool is out of this world grin

mourinho will be proud.
14% possession.
Waawu.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:06pm On Oct 27, 2018
Emaprince:
grin grin

50cent bought 200 front row seat to ja rules concert to make it look empty

Bully on another level...lmao

Lol...

For real?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:07pm On Oct 27, 2018
diggz:


No idea about the hurricane man

Just be careful online o
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:08pm On Oct 27, 2018
Glenn Murray just scored his 100th goal for Brighton.

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